It’s not normal for a passenger jet but it’s not dangerous. Purely cosmetic. It makes the humans feel happy about things. You should see the inside of cargo planes. Boxes don’t care.
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You OWN an A330?!! Holy crap you’re rich. (Because you wrote “my A330”) 🤣
I fucking hate how passengers say “my plane” or “my flight.” You bought a ticket, you didn’t buy the plane or even charter it so it’s not yours.
A330 pilot here. No concern. It’s just the wall panel popped out of place. Basically It’s not the brick exterior of the house, it’s the drywall inside…. Tell an FA. Can be popped back into place if it bugs you
I’ve gotta ask, why oh why would you ask Reddit when there are FA’s on the plane who ALSO don’t want to suddenly exit the aircraft at FL300 and are very qualified to know if it’s a safety issue?
Because the Flight Attendant will say "Don't worry about it, it's normal" and you will spend the entire flight wondering if they were just lying to you to keep you calm.
The FA is also on the plane. Presumably they also don’t want to quickly exit the aircraft mid flight. Thinking an FA would knowingly lie to you about a safety risk is insane.
The FA is also trained to smile during an emergency to keep the passengers calm.
I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, but this is what is going through some passenger's heads.
If it’s just like drywall, grab your carry-on bucket and trowel set, mix up some 90 minute mud, slap some joint tape over that gap and get to it! Maybe give it a knockdown texture if you forgot your sand paper…
Join us in the next of the series where we barter with passengers for the next flight of the same plane we just landed off of. We need to get the same seats and we need to paint. We'll show you the best way to bring paint with you, and the best methods for applying it at 30,000 feet.
I did dry wall when I was fresh out of high school for a couple of years. Dry wall isn't just a job, it become your life, because the dry wall dust gets everywhere. In your hair, your clothes. your car, then you track it into your house when you get home...
Man, totally off subject but, I lived in south Georgia for a bit and was renting an apartment. One night after work, I got home and took off my boots. I'm sitting there eating some dinner while watching something on tv and noticed something on my wall. It was that thin wood paneling and as I focused, I realized it was one of those big ass American roaches, or "Palmetto bug" if you live in the south. So I bleed up my boot and chuckled it at the wall, totally missed the bug, and put a hole in the wall. Welllll, apparently there was a huuuugggeee family of those behind that thin ass paneling because they started to our out... I have never moved to fast in my life and at this time, I was currently enlisted in the Marine Corps... Fun times.
I was renting, so the owner had to put me up in a hotel until they were done with extermination and repairs of the outside wall. I eventually got my deposit back and moved into the barracks. It was definitely an experience.
As in only start nothing else? Batteries -> APU Master SW -> Wait a few seconds -> APU Start -> When APU available -> APU Bleed -> Ignition on - > Eng1&2 -> Wait until stable -> Eng3&4 -> Wait until available -> APU Bleed off, master switch off, ignition off if it's not raining or below 0 Celsius. You might also consider putting the adirs to nav. Have a safe flight.
>popped back into place
I'll remember that when I'm spending hours trying to get this thing back into place at 3AM with cleaners trying to knock me over with their backpack vacuums.
Well, I'm not an aircraft mechanic but I'm pretty familiar with a lot of the tools they use.
I'd guess that unlike the Doors of Durin, the hidden entrance to the mines of Moria built into the cliffs of Silvertine, bordered on each side by two ancient holly trees, symbolising the border of the Elven realm of Eregion and inlaid with ithildin which could only be seen under starlight or moonlight, and would magically open when someome uttered the dwarven word for friend, these panels are made of plastic and have little plastic latches that allow them to pop in and out of place in any lighting conditions.
You’re in a pressurized metal tube flying hundreds of miles an hour, tens of thousands of feet above the ground, and you can drink booze and watch Netflix. Define normal?
Fyi for future reference, when anyone onboard says it’s fine it’s usually because they know it’s already written up. They’re not trying to make anyone feel dumb or just ignore the problem (usually…), it’s just that writing up an already reported defect doesn’t help advance the process any faster.
We have interior guys who are supposed to take care of that stuff regularly. It's just that these interiors are garbage half the time.
I hate zodiac with a passion.
I watched a kid on a plane kick and push one of these panels in, the lady in front sounded like she was going to have a heart attack and the poor FA's spent like 10 minutes calming her down and letting her know its just a plastic panel, its fine. Mom and son got escorted off the plane and held at the gate when we landed though.
Because it looks like shit...... Might be fine for a LCC or some 3rd world airline, but not from our national carrier. Aesthetic only, yes, but unless it just popped out I'd expect better, especially given the price they charge.
You're delayed 4+ hours and in a hub... why they didn't call maintenence and spend the extra 10 minutes to pop that back in place and sign off is beyond me.
I saw this as someone who used fo work under the AC umbrella. Embarrassing all around (and on a trans Atlantic flight, to boot).
Normal? No. Cause for concern? None. I don’t personally work on these airbus planes but I work on the Boeing stuff a lot. It’s just a plastic vanity panel covering some insulation that was likely stacked up improperly.
I think the only instance of this that I know of is Aloha Airlines 243, I think one of the people boarding that flight saw a crack starting to form as they were boarding the plane.
I remember that as well. She also changed seats which she attributes to saving her life. That was an amazing story that could have had a way worse outcome. Unfortunately a stewardess was lost in the event. I couldn't imagine that type of fear.
Subsubheadline: Passenger in question to be featured on episode of Air Disasters, played by an actor who is fatter and has a significantly worse hairline than said passenger and will leave viewers with the impression that passenger in question looks like that.
This like a sagging headliner, or a torn leather seat in a car, it has absolutely no part on the integrity of the structure, in fact planes leave the factory without it in some models and a specialist company installs the interior per customer choice
That's definitely not normal. And it does have to be addressed.
But it's not a safety concern by any means. It's a wall panel that came loose.
Just know that there is insulation back there. So don't stick your hands in there, and don't hold anything that you think might fall in there if you drop it.
Those little nubs sticking out around the door frame where you enter the plane are the only structural thing that passengers have easy access to. Part of my job is to inspect them for debris or damage before closing the door. You'd be surprised how often people bump into the door not realising that damaging the door of the aircraft they are about to fly on is a very bad idea. Luckily most of the doors are designed not to be flush when closed if there is damage so it's obvious if something was missed. My least favourite is when the rubber seal gets damaged, it gets missed and they push back only to return when the pressure test fails.
Think of the actual plane like a skeleton, with external panels welded/riveted/glued (historically, though this is changing with composites) to it on the outside to create the pressurized shell and in case of the wings/control surfaces provide a surface area for lift/control.
Internal panels are for insulation, and appearance/creature comforts. None of these panels are load bearing, or even necessary for the operation of an aircraft. In fact, their added weight is likely detrimental to performance, which is why on many military aircraft, you won’t find such niceties. Like someone else said - it’s just dry wall.
No need to stress, at all.
I had a passenger tell me they felt air rushing in when this happened on a much smaller airplane. That is not possible in a pressurized aircraft. They were being dramatic.
1st world problems! LOL! You should have seen the planes I was flying with when I was working in Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. It was like a stagecoach after my 11 hour layover. Fucking vampires!
Its not normal per se, but also not a worry. That wall is not structural, its just a covering to make the passanger space pretty and hide all the workings of the aircraft. Those panels just clip into place, that one has just come adrift of its clips. Worth mentioning to an FA, but not worth getting worried about.
Not normal and should have been addressed.
It's not structural, but it does affect the integrity of the compartment lining per 14CFR25.853 in order to carry passengers (if a US carrier or a US flight).
But I also don't know the carrier's specific MEL so it may have a valid deferral against it.
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If you’re interested in this kind of thing and a peek into the maintenance aircraft like this, [@airplanefactswithmax](https://www.instagram.com/airplanefactswithmax?=) is a terrific follow.
What you're seeing here is an interior trim panel. The windows stick inwards from the skin of the aircraft and the trim panels either rest against them or click under a lip or something to become attached. There's a significant space between the trim panels and the skin which is usually filled with insulation and services (wiring, air ducts etc)
Totally normal.
Next scene...Toilet flush in economy diverts critical bleed air from cabin and they make a emergency decent to FL 100 in 2 minutes flat.
Seeing this come up on just suggested stuff for me, I was like "wow this guy owns a a330 thats crazy, but I guess it was cheap cause of that loose panel or something"
It may be flight worthy, but so is painting your fleet baby poo color.
If no one is on top of fit and finish 8 would have great concern about the mechanics.
Think of the actual plane like a skeleton, with external panels welded/riveted/glued (historically, though this is changing with composites) to it on the outside to create the pressurized shell and in case of the wings/control surfaces provide a surface area for lift/control.
Internal panels are for insulation, and appearance/creature comforts. None of these panels are load bearing, or even necessary for the operation of an aircraft. In fact, their added weight is likely detrimental to performance, which is why on many military aircraft, you won’t find such niceties. They’ll give you NC earmuffs instead. Like someone else said - it’s just dry wall.
No need to stress, at all.
Wonder if that is the beginning of the situation that happened to this Boeing 767 last month when a laptop slid down into the hold area below?..
https://youtu.be/dZ34cJkk-_k
This is ai right? Why is the insulation behind the window? Why is there a tray table in the armrest? Why does the seat back monitor have upholstery on it?
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