Nothing to see here. Just Iceland clocking temperatures **10°C ABOVE SUMMER AVERAGES** in the middle of the night, in the dead of winter.
Totally normal. Absolutely fine. Everyone go back to sleep.
Past couple of years I’ve had the feeling, “This is the year it’s going to get real.” Looks like I was only about a year early because 2025 did not disappoint. Record rainfall here in spring, driest August on record (both by a pretty good margin), and now 4-5 days straight of broken high temperature records in late December. It’s also dry as a bone here. I can’t shake the feeling 2026 is going to be a doozy…
2027 has been my bet for big calamities and irreversible tipping points rearing their head. So 26 as a wind up fits a dumb narrative im building in my head to cope, I should write a book. Merry Christmas friends.
Enjoy the last dying gasps of the golden age of human gasps while you can because when Gaea makes her margin calls it won’t matter how prepared you are.
I guess my answer depends on how much I am or am not a determinism absolutist.
But then on second examination I suppose my answer is this: fiddling with that distinction in the face of what’s happening to the biosphere is like dropping out of the bomb bay of the Enola Gay riding Fat Boy with your rear gunner and arguing halfway down about who has to ride bitch.
It’s fucking irrelevant who cares at all we’re doomed.
It’s never totally irrelevant. We may all die in this thing, or a few of us may survive, but what’s right is right regardless, and wrong is wrong. If you are correct, we all might just as well kill ourselves right now, yet here we are, typing out responses…
No that’s absurdio ad reductem, even if I’m making sure to have an exit bag ready to go in case the brownshirts go all the way and I get genocided.
There’s a middle ground between a warm bag of nitrogen before bed tonight, a shower at the new wing of alligator Alcatraz 3 years from now or dying of famine or plague or civil unrest in 30 as 4 billion people flee towards water like a glacier of roaches.
That middle ground requires a calculated and fearless tactical fight for the best possible outcomes for myself and the people I can still help shield from suffering. They’re the juice that’s worth the squeeze, even if we are as a species (and I’m fairly convinced we ARE) a 9/11 jumper trading options on our way to kissing the WTC concourse at 190 MPH.
I’d kill 50 men to give my kids an extra good Day.
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Ya’ll are forgetting the big calamities started years ago… forest fires since 2020 and massive floods in Europe and southern Brazil in 2024 were environmental catastrophes directly caused by climate change.
There is a predicted el Nino on the way which if it is back to back strong ones, we could get scorched at +1.7C for the first time ever… Its hard to go look at what that means for us
If it’s this bad at 1.5C, I cannot imagine 3C. Summer 2024 was unforgettable to me because my kid was born in June, but that was also in the backdrop of literally the hottest, shittiest summer I’ve ever lived through. I would be taking this little newborn child out for walks in the dead of night b/c that was the only time it was somewhat tolerable to be outside (80-85 degrees at night in a mountainous part of Maryland).
Let’s just use this moment to go ahead and remind ourselves that 1.5°C *is longggg behind us* if Iceland is seeing +10°C during the winter **over their summer temperatures**.
This is more like “full AMOC breakdown by 2030, all climate sensitivity hugely underestimated” territory.
It’s sort of the moment when all of us migrate from r/collapse over to http://www.naturebatslast.com
Nah, I'm sure combination locks on food and explosive collars will rngratiate them to their security (those are actual suggestions from billionaire peppers)
I've been predicting 2025 as the year it kicks off for a few years now, and honestly... Yeah.
It's not got to world ending levels but this year was the starting year, not a warning year. It gets worse from here.
Yeah, I am struck by the *consistency* of anomalies this year. Weather has always been unpredictable in this part of the Midwestern US, but to be able to point to so many odd conditions in such a short period of time is…scary.
I've had 2027 marked for quite some time for when shit really starts to get crazy. This coming year will keep tracking as bad (ooo yearly predictions thread coming soon), but I am still sticking with 2027 as when true madness begins.
Even Svalbard (northern peice of Norway not connected to mainland Norway ) currently is only around -11c or 12f today and it sits at 80degrees north or about 2000km (1250 miles) up north from Iceland
I remember when I visited Longyearbyen in 2022 May the snow melted in a week on the mountains and all of my tour guides were screaming CLIMATE CHANGE CLIMATE CHANGE, I packed so many warm clothes, because I was like it's up on the north, I'm sure it will be cold as fuck, but the weather was super mild like 10-12 Celsius.
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I think there was some snowfall for like half a day in the southern parts of Estonia at the beginning of December, but definitely not in Tallinn and the surrounding areas. It melted the same day though. It’s just been rain since then.
I just checked the climate data of my hometown. And it's grim. They've got consistently collected meteorological data for every single day since 1870. It's crazy to look at. The average yearly temperature has gone up from around 8.5C in the 70s to 11.5C in the 2020s.
The amount of days with a temperature above 25C has gone up from 60 in the 70s to 100+ in the 2020s. There were 100-120 "frost days" a year in the 70s and 80s where the lowest recorded temperature that day would never go above 0C, and 20-30 "ice days" where the highest recorded temperature would never go above 0C. There's 2 or 3 "ice days" in the 2020s, and around "60-70 frost days. The amount of "summer days" where the temperature didn't go below 25C however increased from around 40-50 in the 70s, 50-60 in the 80s to 90-100 in the 2020s and late 2010s.
I remember specific days in winter as a child where we had crazy amounts of snow falling. Those crazy days were breakout years where we had 1-4 days of 50+ cm of snow falling in a day. There have been none since I was a child save for a single day in like 2019 where the entire city's infrastructure collapsed cause we had a single day of crazy snowfall and had gotten rid of 90% of the snowplowing equipment and workforce the city had cause we hadn't needed it in so long.
As a child I remember years where my mother just plopped me on a sled and pulled me to kindergarden/school cause it was easier than having a small child work or having to carry it. When I was in school all the walkways in winter were just trampled snow. That completely disappeared when in the mid/late 2000s.
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It rained in mountain ski towns in Colorado today. Denver saw a high of 72°. New record high for Christmas Day. This is September or October weather. And Colorado currently has the worst snowpack on record for this date. We’re at about 54% of where it should be. We’re so screwed.
Came to this thread wondering if anyone is talking about Colorado. I truly do not remember ever being able to ride my bike in a t-shirt on Christmas... this is wild
Yeah, total ecological collapse and 95%+ extant species extinction.
What we’ve done to the climate is the geological time equivalent of a massive meteor strike, but instead of precipitating an ice age it could result in a Venusian hothouse.
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
In Imperial Valley, CA? More winter vegetables, but me-thinks the largest source of veggies for U.S. market is from CA Central Valley and Salinas Valley. Plus imports from Mexico.
I'm in the UK and yesterday was GLORIOUS SUNSHINE all day. I was eating Xmas dinner and having to squint to be able to see people because it was so bright.
I could have hung some clothes outside to dry.
We live just in the foothills and ran into a neighbor a few days ago who has lived here over 50yrs. He is terrified of a potential fire right now. We hiked the last two days and it is just so dusty and dry out there.
I’m in the high desert of New Mexico, 15 years ago we’d have had 3-4 snow falls by now, instead we’ve had no rain/snow at all and it was 73° yesterday.
I'm near a CO ski town ... woke up to 52 degrees this morning and a high of 62. Normally we'd have 1-2 *feet* of snow with the next couple weeks dipping into hard sub zero temps. Doubtful that's happening
Seems most predictions have badly busted because they were based not on actual science. They don't take the entire picture into account. Sorry to break this to you but we're cooked well within yours and my lifespan.
Trust me, I already think we're cooked. Unfortunately, I'm convinced it'll be the bombs flying that ends us.
If I'm wrong, however, I agree it'll be climate change or economic collapse that does for us.
Northern hemisphere as whole is already at about 1.95 and last 4 years has been going up 0.2 per year
Might even hit 3 in the north by the end of the decade
I’m currently planning on bailing out of Oklahoma for Minnesota. Not that it’s a climate-change-immune utopia, but they’ve got water security and milder summers. Biggest hazards I’ve identified so far are wildfire smoke and extreme cold, and the occasional hailstorm, tornado, and heat wave. Slightly concerned about energy security, but I’d like to think there’s at least enough rooftop solar potential to stay alive.
The threat of wildfires has been wearing on me pretty hard over the last few years here in Colorado. There's nowhere truly safe - we all just have to pick our poison. Good luck. I lived in Minnesota quite a few years back. There's a lot of good people there.
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So, per your statement. All of us individuals have absolutely no responsibility at all because some evil overlords make us consume en masse?
No man.
There is no gun to our head. We willingly fall for it with our eyes wide open.
Being an autonomous human being comes with responsibility.
There is literally a gun to our heads. Idk where you live but usually when you protest too loudly against the status quo you get imprisoned in this world. Personal responsibility and
Wow you buy second hand! You must be a moral saint then. You probably also grow your own crops and vegetables, never travel during your vacation and live off of pure solar energy, eh?
Are we going to have anomalies in the North Atlantic current, causing desalination and eventual 3 supercells over Europe, Russia and North America leading us into the next ice age??
Time to make drastic changes starting with a voluntary climate goal for 2050 that a bunch of nations without a plan can sign on camera while making handshake photos.
Politicians are humans. Humans are trivially corruptible.
The existence of billionaires (or currency-dependent equivalent) is a fatal error state for any societal structure.
I know right. Regular consumers. They need to realise that it's their individual responsibility to make their lives a little more sober in order to slow down climate change. If you want some advice on how YOU can do more to fight climate change, ask our AI chatbot running on one of the 420 new AI datacenters near you ®.
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Merry Christmas!
Dang, why isn't everybody else just as smart as you are Uktabi? I love your sarcastic, condescending, value-less remark. Typed generously for everyone to receive your wisdom despite this being your designated doomscrolling time.
You are collapse. These collapses happen because of braindead, conscience-less NPCs like the man looking at you in the mirror everyday.
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Yeah but there is a guy on facebook posting charts of random looking lines of apparently ice cap temperatures in Greenland going back 800k years (with no source cited) and rises and falls in CO2 (which can be measured via icecore trapped air) and declaring its proof that CO2 is not a climate driver… This is a more recent disinformation strategy from the homicidal fossil fuels industry - ok maybe the climate is changing noticeably….. but CO2 is not the problem so we can keep burning our cheap toxic fuels by the gigatons. What is it going to take for all these oil jockeys to get sued out of existence or just shut down…
Just keep buying stuff you don't really need and traveling as much as you like and also be sure to keep buying inefficient vehicles and eating meat as often as you want because nothing we do matters only rich people and governments and businesses can do anything so just go back to sleep.
Not sure if the South works the same as the north, but here in central canada, we’ve had some cool summers over the past few years from the opposite side of the hemisphere being overheated, and pushing the polar air up, over, and down onto us. Not snow cold, but very comfortable, while the rest of the hemisphere was suffering heat waves.
Yup. I’m in Hobart, can confirm. Snow on the mountain and up around the Great Lakes. It’s warmer today, and our seasonal changes tend to kick off later than the rest of the country, but it’s still a bit ridiculous. I have the heater cranking and a wooly jumper on.
Meanwhile we’ve had multiple hailstorms recently, and yet I don’t think we had a single decent frost all winter. It’s all a mess.
I would say that we exchanged seasons but here in BE (Europe) it's freezing minus 4 degrees or something which is a normal temperature I guess.
It's getting pretty weird.
any Indian's becoming aware that nearly 50% of their population won't have useable water in the next 4-5 years will probably be trying to flee their country asap. "By 2030, India faces a severe water crisis where demand is projected to double available supply,
Not only was today one of the coldest Boxing Days in my lifetime (I’m 60) it has been proceeded by 3 weeks of the hottest consecutive days I’ve also experienced in my lifetime. Like WTF is this craziness
Can you tell me why it's a bad thing? Is it more to do with agriculture ? By yeah this is the coldest Christmas I've ever had in Melbourne as far as I remember .
As far as I know, if it was just Australia being pretty unseasonable it would be fine cause that just happens, but apparently basically everywhere is experiencing extremely different weather than should be expected, which is why this is really fucked. That, and also lots of cold weather can fuck with animals like snakes and mosquitoes, or plants that seed during colder weather. Unfortunately despite being rural I'm not really invested in farming too much.
Denver Colorado had its warmest December on record. It was 71F yesterday. It's only snowed once since last Winter. I haven't seen a winter like the ones from my childhood in over 5 years now.
In the PDX area, we haven't seen snow at all. Unseasonably warm temperatures for the first half of the month and a *fuckton* of rain, but not a whisper of winter.
In Vancouver, BC… our local ski hills had no snow until this week. Super unusual as there’s usually a base layer on the mountains as of November to early December.
I just wondered if the recent spike in temperature on top of the world’s biggest volcanic hotspot had anything to do with geo-thermal activity. I think it’s a legit question to ask. I know the climate crisis as a whole is not because of volcanoes lol
Click on the 6 day tab. [https://en.vedur.is/weather/observations/areas/easterncoastal/#group=16&station=4380](https://en.vedur.is/weather/observations/areas/easterncoastal/#group=16&station=4380)
The link you posted literally says 22 degrees on the 4th.
But tbh it looks more like a broken sensor type of situation? The bar graph is smooth except for that one huge spike. Idk.
>But tbh it looks more like a broken sensor type of situation?
Yes, that 22° is incorrect for Reykjavík.
But this 19.8° happened in the Eastfjords, about as far away from Reykjavík as you can get within Iceland.
Icelander here - can confirm, here’s a news article from the Icelandic state media (in Icelandic): https://www.ruv.is/frettir/innlent/2025-12-25-desemberhitamet-fell-i-198-stiga-hita-a-seydisfirdi-462311
The link you posted is for Reykjavík, which is at the opposite end of the country from where this was recorded.
Jesus christ, is everyone here just taking this at face value? Without an ounce of research? This stuff happens semi-relatively in Iceland, it's called Föhn Wind, when the wind drops downslope of a mountain range or something. Tt can cause temperatures to fluctuate up to like 15 degrees centigrade in a few hours; and combine that with Iceland being an island so it's much more easily affected by these swings. "Record brutalized", bro it beat out the previous record by like 0.1 degrees. Yeah our planet's in horrendous shape, but the "most extreme event ever seen in world climatic history" is an absolutely ridiculous and stupendously oblivous claim
66 in alabama. Record was 2021, which i think is record for a lot of the us, given the weather patters of that year, but yeah... It got cold for like a week. Its been pretty mild so far.
Cringe tweet. How does the "most extreme climate event in history" only tie the december record lol. There have been many extreme events in recent years that have been massive outliers in the data set... this is not one of them.
Keep in mind the record or near record temperatures in iceland this week were orographically forced meaning the perfect wind direction over the mountains leads to enhanced heating.
I live in northern MN, just a few miles from the Canadian border. While I of course have concerns when we have the bigger changes, like snowless December 2 years ago. Or intense thunderstorms with insane amounts of rain. My bigger concern is the major shift to what used to be normal for our winters, and how few people are concerned about it.
I'm 50, and growing up in the 80s and 90s, I always spent my Thanksgiving holiday weekend (late November) on the ice with my dad. He was a trapper and I went with to help. Our winter lasted from November-April and it was reliable, every year you knew you'd have lake ice by Thanksgiving. We've lost November from winter, and are losing December, too. The past 10 years, we see as much rain as we do snow. We often don't have enough ice by Christmas to be on the lake for snowmobiling. Even in the heart of winter (Dec-Feb) we rarely dip to -30, never mind the -40 that was normal several days a year just 10 years ago. Those cold spells kept out various invasive species, like non-native ticks, ash borers etc. Now we're losing our cold and they are moving in. The entire landscape of the wilderness/forest we live in has changed just my adult lifetime. Tree species are changing, animals are moving in (and some are moving out due to the changes).
And everyone is like, "The climate changes, that's what it does." They have on concept of how bad it is that it's observable in not just a human lifetime, but a fraction of one.
It’s been freakishly warm in the US. I notice the extreme heat of the sun through the windows while driving. Like how super strong the sun was last summer. But hey, what’s the worst that can happen?
Yeah, I've always lived here (Vermont) and I'm kind of over this winter already. We've gotten snow in dribs & drabs, and bonechilling temps. Idk if the middling snowfall is still more of the drought hanging on. No middle to rain in the summer, barely enough to amount to much snow in winter... I'm still conserving water like it's July.
My state in Australia gave it a good crack.
Western australia, clocked the entire top 10 postions for hottest places in the world over xmas eve and xmas.
The entire top 10.
Nothing to see here.
i'm literally there, we had summer temps last night andddd on FB we have tons of idiots thinking this is normal and coming up with all kinds of excuses-
At a local weather station I found a reading of 20.4°C. Absolutely crazy for the end of September near the Arctic circle ! That's warmer than temperatures some icelandic summers
Ahh, I envy the mountains folk! As i have an increasingly hard time with temps 25°C and over...consequently, I told my Mum that I was born in the wrong hemisphere when I was 7yo. Although that appears to be less applicable these days 😬
I don't travel much anymore, but told my kid her whole life that when she turned 13, I'd take her anywhere in the world she wanted to go, because I want her to know that there are other things out there besides Athens, Georgia, and to be able to remember that, one time, she saw some of them.
So tomorrow, we are getting on a plane and going to Tromso, Norway, because "the Arctic Circle" was her pick. Do you perhaps live there? It doesn't sound all that Arcticky, if so.
life is about letting go? Seems like a weird semplification.
I mean yes we won't "save the planet" at this point... Not against *everything* (climate, pollutants, overshoot, sixth mass extinction). Also because we won't change our collective human behaviour one bit without the context changing dramatically, of course.
The planet is fucked and we are too... but we are alive right now. Maybe there isn't much to do to secure a long term future but there is quite a bit to do generally speaking. We have an understanding of the situation, but the reason why there are "understandings" (thoughts) is to inform our actions, not to sit on them and cry.
And what kind of actions matter when there is no long term future? Those that honor our truth... The same actions that matter when there is a long term future, after all.
It was 77 here in Northeast Georgia. Everyone felt weird all day, kind of like going around with our shoulders slightly hunched under the weight of the air.
I just checked since the question is a great one.
From a super quick personal search three different online newspapers reported the same temperature, although they say it in less sensational ways, without the comparison with summer and reporting that the year-on-year change is only 0.1 degrees
looking it up Iceland summer temperatures, it all pretty much checks out. All the sources seem to say true things (or at least, a shared reality with similar starting raw data) but making it look very different to the reader
I told my students this fall when we were getting good cold snaps and decent snows last year for the first time in awhile, on top of a record wet/cool spring and summer that refilled a ton of our lakes. Other shoe has to drop. I’ve seen way more dry years in Kansas than moderate years, and we won’t get away clean with a good year.
I put it bluntly, “I actually used to be able to ice skate and build snow forts on frozen ponds in the winter time in the 90s.” I don’t know if I would ever trust the ice in central Kansas to hold a person’s weight ever again.
Not necessarily wanting to call bullshit, but the layout and the weather warnings in that screenshot don’t match the live site?
https://en.vedur.is/weather/observations/areas/
https://preview.redd.it/57oe2bb5bi9g1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0955d485aa4b07133287814a5f746e5fa03b4c0a
Still high….but why is the difference so large?
These fucking idiots maga smooth brains her in North Idaho are acting pretty weird being without snow this late into winter. It's ruining our economy, and they can't admit that it's the definition of climate change we've been warning them about for 3 decades.
I'm reading this as I wake up in central France with 2°C outside. It's been 10 minutes now and I'm still wondering if this is some kind of joke.
*In the middle of the night??*
It's 16c maximum here in Australia. It's normally a lot hotter, like 26-34c. I'm in a full track suit, dressing and scarf with beanie. Not a good sign either.
I’ve been saying this has been the warmest winter I’ve experienced in eastern nc and I’ve got old people who don’t watch any news or keep up politics saying “it’s been warm on Xmas before” yeah I wonder what they’re gonna say when we all run out of water 😛
So its a warm winter night... may be sort of a relief fir some... especially if there are no bugs...
It can be a challenge to enjoy nighttime because the dark makes us sleepy I think
It seems like here in great lakes winter is more normal this year, except not as much snow as past decades
Christmas is ironically tornado season recently down here in Alabama. We hit 74°F. Monday night the low is 24°F. I saw ants coming out to get the last bits of food, I can imagine it has to be a shock bouncing back and forth between warm and cold.
Eh, we had the SAME length of Warmth that Denver is having here in Southern New England for about 11 days in Mid-December 2015…12-25-15 here was 77 degrees, had a Christmas barbecue outdoors in June attire…our planets’ climate is undergoing change, but remember that weather is just an exchange of atmospheric energy from one place to another on the globe, in the attempt for the planet to achieve an equilibrium in distribution…problems gonna be when more and more places get heat domes that do not move for 4 months!….
And our mountains are absolutely devoid of snow. Lots of pissed off tourist skiers right now who paid thousands months in advance to have a “ski-in, ski-out” place for Christmas…and there’s not an inch of powder on the ground.
We have received well over a foot of rain in December in some areas of Montana, it’s so crazy it’s hard to explain how unusual this is in my life here.
For the first time in my lifetime we had the windows open for Christmas and ended up making pulled pork and barbacoa on the grill. We ended up having over 700 confirmed lightning strikes from a thunderstorm this evening which has never happened on Christmas.
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