Do you think in time after Trump's executive order reclassification of weed to schedule 3 drug the FMCSA will allow drivers to be able to smoke off the clock

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KingHauler@reddit

Alcohol is legal. Its not legal to drink and drive is it?

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That's a nonsense argument. To be honest with you, i'm as far on the no-optimism bus as everyone else, but your employer can't prohibit you from drinking on your off time. They CAN, however, prohibit weed, which is what a lot of people want to be over with.

I want them to pick a side, either ban drivers from using alcohol, weed, and cigarettes or reclasify weed to fit in with alcohol and cigarettes.

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KingHauler@reddit

Ah I see what you mean. Yeah that's a good point, however there's no good test (currently) to prove you where smoking off the clock, besides circumstantial stuff.

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BigDaddyKing47@reddit

Yes there is, its called a mouth swab, the DOT gave it the OK in 2023. It can detect recent use between 8-12 hours of last use, but they still use piss tests.

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BigDaddyKing47@reddit

Yes there is, its called a mouth swap, that was approved by the DOT in 2023, but they still use piss tests.

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DannosaurousRex1993@reddit

God i wish dude, i dont think theyll ever let us, i understand not using it WHILE driving but damn i wish i could just smoke some on my off days like alcohol users can.

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BigDaddyKing47@reddit

Alcohol users, crack heads, PCP, meth, mushrooms, acid, DMT, Cocaine. God forbid someone take a bong hit & get tested 3 weeks later.

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limbophase@reddit

It’s infuriating

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BigDaddyKing47@reddit

Hopefully, but for now I just eat shrooms, drop acid & smoke DMT (can make it in the crock pot) & slam Vodka.

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Realistic-Dust-8795@reddit

So I can drive to the liquor store and buy alcohol after my shift and get completely wasted and go to work the next day but I can’t go to the weed store smoke a joint and feel completely fine the next day? MAKES NO SENSE

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Large-Average9768@reddit

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Uncle_Joey1999@reddit

What about if I have a non cdl DOT card

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geneticdeadender@reddit

It is possible but probably not right away.

Schedule III means it is a legit medicine and if a doctor approves a driver to use it then there is a case to go before a court with.

A lot of drivers have tested positive and lost their CDLs. I wonder if recertification will be easier now.

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Accomplished-Cat-632@reddit

Weed has been legal in Canada for a while now. Driving under the influence,Weed ,booze ,prescription drugs are a big NO CDL or not.

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mickle_billowo@reddit

It's not a question of driving under the influence of anything or not, it's a matter of " Will smoking a joint on a Saturday night and getting random-piss-tested two Fridays from now ruin my life and career?" The don't give a single fuck whether you're stoned or not — if you have any on your system (which can last for months), it's over for you lmfao

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Accomplished-Cat-632@reddit

The company policy and insurance don’t care if weed is legal , They say NO And drug testing will definitely continue. Unfortunately you can do cocaine on Friday and piss clean on Monday. Weed no pass.

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The_Twon7@reddit

DOT drug testing only is for Schedule I & II. To continue testing after reclassification, they would have to "carve out" an explicit rule for the very narrow and specific continuation to test for the Sch. III MJ.

(From Google AI?

The Problem: Current DOT authority is tied to HHS Mandatory Guidelines, which only authorize testing for Schedule I and II substances. Moving marijuana to Schedule III could technically strip the DOT of its legal authority to test for it.

The Solution: Industry groups, including the American Trucking Associations (ATA) and the National Drug & Alcohol Screening Association (NDASA), are pushing for a "safety carve-out" to explicitly preserve the DOT's testing authority regardless of the drug's schedule.

I would hope they don't "carve out" anything and read the writing on the wall. Do I think they can contain themselves? No

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D-Sleezy@reddit

Hey everyone. Listen to this guy. He Actually knows what he's talking about, even with AI.

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EdderMoney@reddit

If they do, it would have to be medical marijuana. And it would be prohibited to report to duty while under the influence. Similarly to opioid pain medications.

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No_Taste_622@reddit

Not until there is a test or way to tell if your under the influence at the time of a traffic stop or accident

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limbophase@reddit

Even then why would they do that when urine tests are fully legal and “reliable” and already working in their system? The dot is scared of doing anything with marijuana and avoiding it until the very last second that they can get away with it

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ate2for@reddit

That’s been around a while now

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Wicell@reddit

It has not. There is still not enough research of Marijuana/ THC to come up with technological devices to show whether the THC in your system is residual or currently causing impairment. Until there is, even if DOT can't or doesn't test for THC, companies most likely will.

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ate2for@reddit

There most certainly is, I believe it was made a couple years ago. If I get a chance to look into it I will

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CentralFeeder@reddit

The DOT will never allow a CDL holder in a safety sensitive function to ingest THC legally. We can wish, pray, hope and dream all we want. No way they ever let it happen.

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limbophase@reddit

The sad truth. It would have to be forced upon them with years and years of convincing and manipulating for them to change it

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themanwholikesHP@reddit

People really don’t see optimism with this. I personally think it’s going to pave the way. If marijuana is rescheduled to Schedule III, it would no longer be treated as a drug with “no accepted medical use,” which is the main reason the DOT currently bans it outright. Schedule III status puts it in the same category as other prescription medications that truck drivers are already allowed to use with medical approval, as long as they aren’t impaired while driving. That alone weakens the legal foundation for a blanket prohibition. While it wouldn’t instantly make marijuana legal for truck drivers, it would create strong pressure for the DOT and FMCSA to update their rule likely moving toward a model similar to other medications, where use is regulated, prescribed, and evaluated based on impairment rather than simple presence in a drug test.

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limbophase@reddit

I don’t think the pressure would be strong enough for them to change the laws. They’re already so lazy and stubborn as it is, one of the most unfair systems that the working class has to deal with is the dot. They don’t care for even changing piss tests when it got passed for saliva testing back in 2023, they’re dragging their toes on everything related to marijuana prolonging it as long as possible. Their goal is to not be liable for anything, doesn’t matter if it makes drivers’ lives better or more fair.

It would take an act of God and votes in congress before weed ever becomes allowed and I don’t see that happening in the next 3-5 years at all unfortunately

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xccoach4ever@reddit

No. The employer can still bar you from it even if it is federally legal.

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kevtino@reddit

If it's a prescribed medication, that may fall under deiscrimination

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potatocross@reddit

No

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TacticalSystem@reddit

No

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Special_Health5934@reddit

No

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-Mikey2Toes@reddit

No

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PennyFromMyAnus@reddit

No

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No_Salad1394@reddit

No

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MADLUX2015@reddit

No

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Wicell@reddit

No

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Alkanfel@reddit

No

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liswat@reddit

No

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jonnynoine@reddit

No

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MADLUX2015@reddit

No

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KingHauler@reddit

Alcohol is legal. Its not legal to drink and drive is it?

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Flashy_Review_6516@reddit

You can drink a few beers off the clock at night and then be perfectly sober blowing a 0.00 on the breathalyzer the next morning. I don’t think anyone is asking to be able to smoke and drive a truck at the same time. Just to be able to smoke when they aren’t working and not get punished for it.

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