Not sure why your other posts are now deleted and this one has been reposted.

Yes, can confirm, they’re gone. As for why, your guess is about as good as mine, but I’d put my money on someone ratting me out to the mods for whatever reason. Or maybe I triggered some automatic alert, you know your crush isn’t exactly respected in this and a few other communities, and posts mentioning the full company name and their product tend to get flagged and nuked. The last post, and actually my first, was saved in drafts, and I reposted it just to keep the conversation going. We’ll see how long it lasts LOL.

Can you show me the bankruptcy announcement as I am struggling to find it, and their Level 4 funding 'Generating Revenue' was done in 2023.

Lemme see… Their website is defaced and throws a 404 when you try to browse it, their product's no longer around, and their customers have moved on to alternative solutions. There’s also no public information about the company itself or about any assets being acquired by anyone. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots, mate, do you? OK, technically “bankrupting” an LLC, they were never incorporated, in the U.S. is a stretch, so I’ll take back that "bankrupting" and say “shutting the company down” or “going out of business” instead. But really, what difference does it make? Back to the “generating revenue” remark, it’s actually pretty funny. You can generate all the revenue you want, what matters is whether you turn a profit or not, because cash is king, especially if you aren’t riding a VC pony. Anyway, I’ve changed the wording. We square?

Have you used Verge? Your claim that it is junk is interesting. Storagereview did a 2024 review and they rated it above Proxmox for an enterprise hypervisor.

We run a DevOps task force whose routine job is to periodically evaluate platforms like Proxmox, Morpheus Data, or whatever HPE calls it now, OLVM, actually oVirt with a fancy Oracle logo, OpenShift, Harvester HCI, Rancher, XCP-NG, and so on. The sole purpose of this exercise is to see whether it makes sense for our Enterprise customers to at least start considering a move. Your lovely pals are part of that flock, so yes, I’m very well aware of their “technology.” Can I say I’m using it? Probably not. But I’m very familiar with it, and with quite a few others. I definitely have my own view on who’s actually the real deal, but within the context of this thread I’ll keep that to myself, so you can’t say I’ve got skin in the game, OK? As for StorageReview… I’ve known Brian for years. We’ve met many times at various IT events and shared a fair amount of drinks, so I won’t be commenting on the nature of his business.

My own personal experience with our enterprise deployments and homelabbing, its a really good bit of kit and it outperforms VMware on the same hardware.

Enterprise virtualization isn’t a pissing contest. It’s not about how many IOPS you can squeeze out of the same hardware or how many turtles you can fit on a rock. It’s about stability and support in the short run, and about technology and financial viability in the long run, because that’s what determines whether you can be confident you won’t have to jump your vendor's ship in the middle of the night. Technically speaking, Debian with KVM, which is exactly what sits under the hood of your praised virtualization stack, paired with a repainted Cockpit for the user experience, will outperform VMware on any recent hardware, no doubt. That still doesn’t mean everyone should convert tomorrow.

In terms of Scale Computing, the only reason we went with Verge is because it didn't require a significant capital expense on new hardware.

Scale Computing went belly up not because the technology was bad, but because they couldn’t build solid financials behind what they were developing tech-wise. Now everyone who moved from VMware to Scale is facing a massive PITA, because they’re forced into a second major migration within a 1–1.5 year window, and trust me, that’s no fun at all! There’s an old saying that nobody ever got fired for buying IBM, and there’s a solid amount of wisdom in that. If you’re an SMB with plenty of spare time and deep hands-on knowledge, you have a lot of flexibility in the choices you make. But if you’re truly an Enterprise shop, as you claim, with 26 locations worldwide, serious uptime requirements, and so on, you’d better be very careful about who you get into bed with. With VMware effectively pulling the plug on SMB-focused users, the space has quickly been flooded with a myriad of “me too, please!” vendors that have no real technological substance or a credible long-term outlook. Sure, it’s entertaining to watch, but mixing Enterprise workloads with living dangerously? That’s beyond my understanding. Still, I’m glad it works for you, for now.

2 years of use and progressive development.

Yottabyte had a solid 15 years, and they still went tits up.

I spoke to 3 customers before we purchased,

I hope these weren’t fabricated references former Yotta customers or partners posing as customers.

one of which is an MSP.

Well, here we go! They resell Verge and benefit financially from it, so what did you expect them to say?

We needed an enterprise level HV and Proxmox isn’t it

Proxmox has solid L1 U.S. support through alliance partners. I’m not optimistic about StoneFly and Croit their approach seems purely commercial but ICE and HiVelocity are particularly strong.

https://www.proxmox.com/en/partners/find-partner/all/filter/regions-filter/north-america/usa

and Scale I already answered why above.

Agreed on Scale!

From my perspective they are not a dying entity.

I didn’t claim they are failing at least not at this stage. My concern is their business model. It depends on a substantial loan that requires immediate repayment, creating significant financial risk. The company is not a cash-flow machine, not a small self-sustaining business, and not venture-backed. Balancing debt service with ongoing growth is extremely challenging which makes the model inherently flaky.

We ran VMWare for more than 15 years. Frankly, if The pricing hadn’t gone nuclear, we would probably still be there.

We’re mostly still there. VMware played the numbers well, and for 70 to maybe 80% of our customers paying more is still cheaper than migrating. We’re enterprise heavy, so SMB is a very different story altogether.