Do we know when the GPU / RAM / SSD apocalypse will let up?
Posted by pentaria55@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 282 comments
Hi,
I'm building my first PC right now and I managed to order the parts I need before most of this happened (thank god) but with everything going on right now I'm wondering how long I'll need to wait if I want to upgrade or attempt another build. I have no doubt prices will stabilize and rebound at some point but what are our best estimates on when? Do we have any opinions on this from experts or journals? Thanks.
As a side note, I am also in the market for a new phone in the coming year(s) and it would be helpful to know if the shortage affects all of computing or just consumer PCs.
MusicalOreo@reddit
Nobody knows, and yes it will affect all devices although likely to a lesser degree given the comparatively small amount of RAM on your phone
PermitCivil@reddit
catlookinginside.png
"small amount of ram"
>looks inside
>12gb
pentaria55@reddit (OP)
That helps, thanks...!
theorist9@reddit
Some assume this is completely unknowable, and are giving you disimissive and snarky responses as a result.
That's unfortunate*, since there exist good professional assessments of the situation by supply chain analysts who specialize in this area. Here's a summary of those assessments that indicates where the consensus is:
When Will RAM Prices Drop? What the Analysts Are Actually Saying
*Unfortunate but not surprising. It's often those who understand the least about a topic who give the most confident and condescending replies—it's precisely because of their ignorance that they're so certain they're right, not having enough understanding to realize when they're wrong.
I have litttle tolerance for those who respond to sincere question like yours in that manner, hence my diatribe ;).
CanisMajoris85@reddit
Don’t expect anytime in the next year. Could be 2027.
Relevant-Drawing585@reddit
whenever the AI bubble pops. you'll know when it happens, because you'll likely be laid off and not have money to buy it anyway.
4openingExtrnalLinks@reddit
There is no ai bubble. With how useful it is and how it's rapidly becoming better on a weekly basis. It will only continue to be adopted by the entire world. The people who assume that it's a bubble, haven't fully utilized the power of AI yet.
ceverson70@reddit
That’s what happened with the.com bubble you realize that right?
4openingExtrnalLinks@reddit
Whatchu mean
ceverson70@reddit
So in the late 90s the internet, well really the world wide web(they are different in this context), became useful. Google was born. People could do crazy things, it was untapped in many people’s minds. Money kept getting thrown at it, just like ai. However from 2000-2002 it crashed, because not all of it was as useful as it could have been, there were too many like minded products. Too much capital spent. It’s what is happening with ai right now There are ways to avoid a crash for sure, and as it’s not expected until 2030 there could even be changes in 2028/2029 to prevent it. However, the way it’s going right now is exactly like the .com bubble There have been other bubbles too, however the digital world, with digital assets is only 30-40 years old
4openingExtrnalLinks@reddit
Oh damn. I didn't know about the .com bubble crash. So I guess it's gonna be the same with AI but ultimately, it's going to be widely adopted just like the .com.
West-Response-6690@reddit
Yeah. It usually takes a year or two.
DarthFaderZ@reddit
About the time the 6000 cards will drop and restart the cycle
Chamallow81@reddit
6090 will start at 2999 this time, 6070 at 999.
_Vo1_@reddit
I’ll just go cloud such prices, fuck it. When the bubble bursts all these rams and gpus will just go cloud gaming too lmao
dsinsti@reddit
Don't fall for this trap. This is getting another mortgage for your life.
_Vo1_@reddit
No it isnt. I pay for mortgage much more than 100eur/year. Also I pay for electricity on my 10900/3080ti probaly more than 100/year considering amount of time I play.
heillon@reddit
It's a classic case of dealer saying "first dose is free"
_Vo1_@reddit
dude, you need to pay for 5070 Ti 800 euro, thats 8 years of cloud. In 8 years this card becomes barely enough for Factorio 2.
Just a 5070 ti card alone would drain from wallet about 100 euro per year for 6 h/day 365 days with 50%‑load on a 5070 Ti. Add there CPU and other components and it would be around 160 EUR/year with the most efficient and least bottlenecking CPU.
While Chromecast 4K draws around 5W, so for 6h/day which would result in around 4 euro per year + 100 EUR/year of boosteroid.
Based on these calculations, the "dose" is getting PC (800 EUR upfront payment for GPU only vs 50 EUR upfront payment for chromecast and 160/year payment for electricity vs 5/year for electricity)
heillon@reddit
Yet in cloud you don't own anything, things can get removed, censored, enshitified and after enough people are locked in the cloud they can hike prices. You have no control over it
_Vo1_@reddit
I have absolutely no problems with that. When they raise prices they still gonna be cheaper than owning pc, because prices are rising for components too.
DarthFaderZ@reddit
Biggest issue with cloud shit is latency. We are a long way from seamless
_Vo1_@reddit
Not for the games I play. It is rarely shooters, though even in shooters it was okayish (tried destiny about 5 years ago over GFN, was absolutely doable in raid in endgame). Of course its not for competitive gameplay, but singleplayer shit is absolutely fine on it.
syrslyttv@reddit
Even for single player, you have to be OK with a smaller resolution and lots of hiccups, even on a good nearby connection. The amount of bandwidth required to get 1080px60fps is already too high for a lot of ISPs in a lot of areas. Granted, that's changing over time, and fiber internet is becoming more common.
_Vo1_@reddit
Bandwidth isnt that high, latency is critcal. 4k60fps you need around 50mbps. I am on fiber already.
dsinsti@reddit
Yeah...just to keep adding reasons you don't get so much porn and pirated stuff with the cloud
seallv@reddit
Dont help enemies of society - rich and powerful people - take control over your life. They want you to not own anything, so everything is theirs and you rent everything from them. Buy your own stuff, then nobody can tell you how to do your buisseness and cant change your lifes expenses with one move of a finger.
ArmadilloFit652@reddit
8gb 6070
seallv@reddit
"8gb 6070" lol @ArmadilloFit652
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
Sounds about right...a 4 month window to buy your shit after the first supply shortage and a bubble is formed from use of it.
TotallyNotABob@reddit
Everything since 2020 made me realize I lucked out.
Built my first gaming PC in over a decade in May of 2020 with a 1060 donated from a friend.
Upped it to a 5700xt in July right before GPU prices went insane.
While at work, essential healthcare worker on site, had that 5700xt mine and made back what I paid for it.
In January of 25 upgraded the GPU and CPU. Went from red to blue and green (4070, I7-12700k and a new mobo) only spent $600 for the upgrade.
In May of 25 changed from 32 gigs to 64 gigs DDR5
I should buy some scratchers, you never know.
jonravwn9633@reddit
Heh, i built my Fx8350 in 2014. Bu then, with the GPU crisis, in 2021, I built a 11,600k intel system with an 8gb 1070ti from a friends bitcoint operation he had dismantled after a year or so. I paid 240 CAD for the card in total. All in all i blew about 1200 CAD on the build. I cheaped 9ut on a asrock B560 mobo, that only had Pcie 4 and ddr4, because ddr5 was quite a lot...and here we are again....
So recently with the "RamPocalypse" I decided to grab an Rx 9060 XT 16gb on a boxing day sale for 539.99 plus taxes. And snatched up 16gb ddr4 3200 corsair vengeance for 132.99+tax. All this to upgrade my 2021 build. But i dont wanna get stuck with a 1070ti forever...
My plan is to retire my 15 year old dell studio laptop i use as a media machine for tv and music downstairs and toss the 1070ti in my fx8350 build. Couldnt even sell it for 100 bucks in 2021 after my new build... so said well, i will just keep it. Still works well.
RuneKnytling@reddit
You may luck out for buying things before the price shot up, but I got a 3070 for free because the guy who gave it to me thought it was “broken.” Turns out it would artifact if you don’t give it enough voltage, and if you don’t install the correct drive.
And… I bought 128gb CL32 RAMs back in August. Upping it from my 4x16gb sticks I got for like $50 & $60 respectively.
So far, I haven’t really won the big prizes with the scratch-offs, but I’ve been getting a few $20 here and there which is still a loss for me
stwanchl@reddit
do u plan to sell the ram
RuneKnytling@reddit
I don't know. Is anyone wanting to buy it?
ButterFlyPaperCut@reddit
2026: Ramageddon
seallv@reddit
same as covid, started in autumn into winter and then next year it takes its strenght. Actually id say its 2025 Ramageddon/Ramapocalypse.
Trevelayan@reddit
Just in time for China to invade Taiwan and fuck the market permanently
DependentAd4695@reddit
Huhh, calm down, if China does that, I'll simply take over Taiwan's role, which is the only reason it hasn't been left for grabs.
Br11ga@reddit
Wtf I'm fked 😭
MadCybertist@reddit
It’ll 100% be 2027 at best. These things always take about 1.5-2 years on the low end. Sucks. I was going to build a new home lab this Black Friday but decided to say screw it and hold out.
Shadowraiden@reddit
possible even longer with how impactful these 2 deals are.
could potentially even impact consoles and make them delayed by years. rumours sony may push back ps6 to 2030 because of this and they are actually one of the most secure in stock of ram chips they have stockpiled.
Kostaja@reddit
I doubt Sony or other device manufactures stockpile much of the actual chips or any other parts for that matter. However big players most likely have multi year agreements in place for guaranteed capacity from suppliers with a fixed price (or some other contractual price protection). At least for the devices currently in production.
Of course there are other external factors such as tariffs rising costs, so it may make sense to postpone the next gen consoles.
Shadowraiden@reddit
after recent years of shutdowns and various external factors they do actually stockpile.
they wont be stockpiling the chips but the actual already designed aspects so they then arent in a situation of well needing to make the product but dont have 1 specific component.
after covid Sony has been stockpiling massively so their tv's and other productions dont drop at all as they took huge hits due to delays during it.
dsinsti@reddit
Nah, if margins are too high competition will arise
Few_Magician989@reddit
It will but the thing is the semiconductor industry is difficult. It is billions in investment and even more billions to build the fab factory. Repurposing an existing factory is billions too plus lost profit. This ram nonsense will take at least two years if not more to be over with
FullOfMircoplastics@reddit
me early this year....
oh god.
Destructo-Bear@reddit
I'm so lucky I decided to build a machine last July. I was going to wait to upgrade my 8700k/5700xt build for another year, but I saw a good deal on a microcenter bundle and I jumped on it, thinking I would just gather the other parts over time. A week later, I got an msrp 5070 gpu and a $30 case on another sale from Microcenter. The whole 9700x/5070 build was only $1244 in july and the same build would be $1450 now.
PrimeIntellect@reddit
Just buy a prebuilt like yesterday before the prices catch up
ExtremistsAreStupid@reddit
I bought a deep-discount 4090 RTX prebuilt with 64GB RAM. I've always built my own computers in the past but the price was so good I bit the bullet. So glad I did. The 14900KS chip did require messing with BIOS to get stable but after that it's been smooth sailing and the thing is an absolute beast for all the purposes I've needed it for (games and running local AI stacks).
Br11ga@reddit
Hiw much was it
ExtremistsAreStupid@reddit
$3,600.
https://imgur.com/a/F0k1q6z
This is the rig
The premade got bad reviews but it is primarily because of instability from the 14900KS chipset and (I assume) most people not understanding how to stabilize it. Intel did a hack job and their recommended settings suck. I couldn't be happier with my rig though, personally, but I am not a typical user.
Sciencebitchs@reddit
3.50
tofu_b3a5t@reddit
Micron is shutting down Crucial, so it might be longer than that.
Due_Outside_1459@reddit
Just in time for AM6 to come out requiring DDR6. Expect $300 kits of 32GB DDR6 then....
CanisMajoris85@reddit
Ha ya that’s not gonna be fun I guess when they need to make ddr6 and there’s still perhaps a shortage. Hopefully intel goes to ddr6 first, AMD may not be until 2028-2030 (probably later).
Due-Ambassador-6492@reddit
can go anywhere more than 2030 i guess
dsinsti@reddit
Nah, if prices are high the whole market will tank. People will just end up keeping their actual rigs longer., and demand will drop and the market as a whole will shrink. steam machines are spot on to fill this demand i.e. competition will arise
DogadonsLavapool@reddit
Wouldnt be surprised if they keep this shit up and sell Stadia 2.0 and kill consoles and pcs
dsinsti@reddit
I mean smart suitsmen running for their short lived perks abusing their oligopolistic position that will end up harming the market or even destroying it. They don't give a shit for long term because they just want their perks and everytime this happens the whole industry suffers, remember with JIT and Superlopez with GM and Volkswagen. We never learn. Consumers should just avoid buying for a couple of years and fuck up their companies stocks values.
dsinsti@reddit
Time for another rpi cheap system
pentaria55@reddit (OP)
That's my thinking too and I think I can go a year without buying any more hardware. Still kinda fucking sucks
ximian1228@reddit
It will be when the elites say so. Anyone with a brain knows AI is just advanced software, secondly, this artificial run on RAM is just artificial. Speculate all we want, it will be over when the elites make their mark. Whatever that is only they and the people in their stupid inner circles know. Maybe it's all a part of the REAL RESET, coming in the next decade plus. Or their silly little Blue Beam Alien invasion everyone seems to be falling for.
Dutch1inAZ@reddit
Yes, it will affect phone makers as well: higher prices and potentially lower ram specs for base models.
Lagoon_M8@reddit
This is to get more money. Don't buy so it will end quicker.
MrGunny94@reddit
I just refunded my 5080 and went for a 5090 just in case I’ll need that extra VRAM since I play at 4K and 5k2k
Jetski125@reddit
Never thought I would regret not spending that extra $1000 or so, but one month later and I doubt I ever see a 5090 in stock at $2000. I hope you are loving it!
MrGunny94@reddit
Absolutely just brute forcing these damm unoptimized games lol….
Competitive_Owl_2096@reddit
When the AI bubble pops
TheMastaBlaster@reddit
If it pops you won't be buying gaming supplies itll be a full blown shanty town.
Wizard-of-pause@reddit
This. The only remedy is if USA invades Venezuela. Just to be clear - I don't support it, but gov clearly stated that they want to steal their oil.
AbsolutelyStateless@reddit
Nice prediction.
Sixguns1977@reddit
Why?
Mediocre-Ant-7178@reddit
The entire global economy is tied into the worth of a few AI companies
Savings_Mango_5863@reddit
So? A handful of tech lords go bankrupt. They aren't manufacturing or producing an actual good. Nobody will care when their AI projects die.
Sixguns1977@reddit
Well be far better off when the bubble pops. We don't need their garbage jacking up the process for everything. Can't crash soon enough.
TheMastaBlaster@reddit
You think the rich are the ones that suffer in a recession?
2008 will seem like a golden age compared to an AI collapse at thus time. 26% of the global RAM market exited the consumer market yesterday to meet demand, the garbage is here until a sun flare wipes it out.
Sixguns1977@reddit
Where did I say that?
AI companies can't die off fast enough. We'll be fine without them.
jdcope@reddit
The problem is they are the only thing holding up the US economy right now. If they fail, the economy fails and we are all screwed.
jlt6666@reddit
It will tank the markets for sure but I think you might be a bit alarmist about the scale of it.
jolliskus@reddit
Don't mistake the economy with the stock market.
Sixguns1977@reddit
The US economy is far more than the companies pushing AI(fuck nvidia especially). The sooner it goes bust the better and we can stop having this trash forced on us.
beemertech510@reddit
95% of US GDP growth was Ai this year.
Sixguns1977@reddit
Growth? OK, but what about total? And i honestly don't even care, the sooner it goes bust, the better for all of us.
MDCCCLV@reddit
Datacenters running ai can be converted to lots of other data center purposes, nvidia cards are flexible and multi-use.
zad112@reddit
Most other things though don’t need 10k gpu’s running 1 thing. There will still be way to much
beemertech510@reddit
Then we can play fallout 4 IRL
Mfvd@reddit
Heres the thing, will the price come back down even if it pops? I feel like gpu price never came back down since covid
Competitive_Owl_2096@reddit
It was very much msrp for a good while for the past year, until ramagenden
SUPAYO@reddit
Yh considering that MSRP is already a rip off.
LamentableFool@reddit
Well yeah because MSRP crept up to match scalper prices.
jdcope@reddit
When it pops, the economy will be fucked, and nobody but the super wealthy will have the money to buy PC parts anyway.
Savings_Mango_5863@reddit
I don't see how the economy will be screwed. AI isn't doing anything other than gobbling up investor dollars and building up data centers. If they GI bankrupt and shutdown, life goes on. Its not like having manufacturers go down or energy producers. Its buildings of computers using up tons if energy. The economy will prob get better if that bubble pops.
West-Lab-7728@reddit
They will never go bankrupt and shutdown. AI usage is, at this point, interlocked with parts of the computer science, medical, IT, finance, and analyst fields. It’s more than the average chatbot, AI is very heavily integrated with these fields in growth and assessments.
Savings_Mango_5863@reddit
I don't doubt that. Obviously enterprise will be their biggest customer. But as energy prices rise, and they are placed on the average tax payer, public sentiment will become emboldened. Politicians will campaign on removing subsidies, etc. And the real world use would have to be incredible to overcome this. And right now the AI can't even take fastfood orders so I"m not convinced it will be as inevitable as people think it will be.
jdcope@reddit
Believe what you want, but I’m not the only one saying this. Q2 GDP growth was 3.8%. Without AI data center investment, our GDP growth would have only been 0.1%. That’s not great.
Savings_Mango_5863@reddit
Its not about what people say. It us actually more likely that data center rapid uncontrolled growth CAUSES economic failure by RAISING energy prices for normal people. High energy prices historically causes recession and depression.
Its also not like these data centers are creating tons of human jobs for everyday people. They really appear to benefit the few who own/manage them.
Savings_Mango_5863@reddit
It has. People keep saying this. But its not true. GPU market is prob tge best since the 1080 days. Intel has capable GPUs for $200! Rx 9060 16 gb is a good card for $350. The rtx 5070 is $499 which is the same as the 2070 super and the 3070. The 3070 couldn't even be found at msrp for $499 either let's be honest. The Rx 9070 xt is a powerful card for $599. These are absolutely not bad options to choose from in a price range of $200-600.
What has not come back down is ridiculous 5090 cards selling for $3000 and 80 series cards trying to normalize $1000+, so basically Nvidia cards that outclass the performance offered by AMD.
jlt6666@reddit
Yeah. That's because there was a massive chip shortage due to servers ramping way up during Covid to handle all those zoom calls and WFH/school FH computers that got snatched up. Then the auto industry had to catch up. Not to mention supply chain issues that still had to get cleared up. By the time that had maybe started to die down chatGPT showed up at the end of 2022 and we've been in an AI mania ever since.
So in short, we've yet to come out of super high demand for computer chips. Once the AI build out dries up we might see a retreat but chip makers may hold out trying to maintain margins.
ParamedicWookie@reddit
The other obvious answer it simply that the yearly chip demand has exceeded our production capacity and this is the reality we live in until other foundries come online
jlt6666@reddit
Well yeah. I was just explaining how and why the demand spiked so hard and remained so high.
TallowWallow@reddit
Yes. If AI loses interest, we will have massive overstock.
Resident-Artist6183@reddit
Even if the bubble pops, it would take some air to things to go back to normal. That’s just how things work. When house prices go up, they suddenly go down when market crashes with the same with other other stuff to.
BigBadWolf7423@reddit
AI is not a bubble and is never gonna pop.
That's like saying "wait for the internet bubble to pop" in the 90's.
Lost-Pudding1986@reddit
It ain't popping
seraphinth@reddit
I really wish it ain't, because at least micron would be making new ram chip fabs to fulfill demand knowing ai will be a long term profit point... But because it's a bubble because of the way everyone is treating it they're not making more capacity, thus we're stuck with the capacity we have today all for ai
pentaria55@reddit (OP)
Yeah that's basically the same question so when is that
Competitive_Owl_2096@reddit
Ask nvidia and OpenAI
GipsyRonin@reddit
Bubble needs to bust, really they are building data centers right now so when those are fully online…initial demand will drop. In the meantime just brace yourself for some very hard times in tech. I honestly give it 2-3 years to MAYBE stabilize but in no world will they lower prices.
hrad95@reddit
I was planning on building my own NAS. Would it be better to get a pre-built one instead? I'm desperate for storage space. Plan is to use it for everything: work, photos, movies, phone backup, etc. I noticed NVMEs are about 3-4x the price I paid for the exact same ones I used on my gaming PC built during COVID.
89thAvenger@reddit
GTA VI: finally a worthy opponent.
Whole_Ad_4989@reddit
They don't want you to have a personal computer or personal freedom they want control, censorship and conformity their trying ro take your stuff away from you they want you to rely on AI cloud computing so they fucking can own you and your soul.
The government and mega corps are in on it. So they will try to hoard all the RAM as long as they can.
Realistic-Radish-589@reddit
The current stuff won't go down till the next generation comes out. Buy now or be even more sad later. Or wait to buy current Gen when next generation drops.
Neon-At-Work@reddit
Yep. I know when. I have insider information like 1/2 of the other smart people here. Send me 1 bitcoin and I will tell you the answer.
RadiantVeiler@reddit
It just started and u asking when its done lmfao . Get a console for now.
Crisnenu@reddit
Short answer: No. Long answer: No, we don't know, no one knows
signgain82@reddit
My guess is never
Beneficial_Aide3854@reddit
So you could sell it for more. Cool.
signgain82@reddit
What are you implying? I bought the laptop and use it personally lol. I haven't sold shit online in years
pentaria55@reddit (OP)
It's so over 😔🥀
idekl@reddit
There isn't a GPU apocalypse though? They're all MSRP right now.
Caspid@reddit
Which is still a lot higher than it should be and shows how corporations have brainwashed consumers. No one should be celebrating things being sold at MSRP.
ChadHUD@reddit
Not over. Cheap consumer PCs are over. We have had expensive PCs before. We'll be ok.
Its going to get popular for people to buy slightly older server parts and build. In the 90s I had a dual CPU server board and ECC ram. On the upside we aren't going to need to go to dual socket boards. Plenty of single CPU server boards, and a lot of the consumer boards we buy today fully support ecc ram.
It will get more expensive. it won't go away.
Loose-Internal-1956@reddit
Agree. PCs will be more and more an enthusiast level hobby going forward. I use enthusiast in the sense that PC Part Picker and system integrators call $4-5K PCs “enthusiast” level.
It’ll be like being an audiophile vs. a Spotify subscriber today.
Enthusiasts will have hardware in their home. Everyone else will play via cloud connection, on remote hardware.
ChadHUD@reddit
Yes I have known for some years. When people shot down google chromeos, and gamers would laugh at game streaming.
With every change you can see the companies trying to make things happen just a little too early.
Sometimes you can't fight the future. Eventually someone has the iphone moment where everything comes together in one product that goes viral. Not sure this time is it going to be Googles Android+chromos smash up? Will it be a big name launching a new cloud gaming proudct? Lots of unknowns right now but it seems pretty clear that is the overall industry play.
I just hope whatever the server/cloud/ai industry is asking for after DDR5. Is produced in away were there are at least cast off parts that can be sold for consumer use at a not super insane price.
jolard@reddit
Possibly not for a while.
AI is going to destroy capitalism, which is ironic since the clear winners of the current capitalist system are the ones pushing for AI. But the reality is capitalism CANNOT survive in a world where a massive percentage of people have no-one willing to pay them for their labor. Even those whose labor is still valuable will have their labor massively devalued.
So unless we change our economic system, the clear outcome will be almost all wealth concentrated in the hands of a very small number of people, and the rest scrambling and fighting over the scraps.
There are lots of changes that could be made, but I think the only fair one will be nationalizing all industries (i.e. socialism) so that the benefit of AI is shared among all citizens. Other solutions might be possible.
But what this means is that we are at the very beginning of a massive disruption event, probably more disruptive than the industrial revolution. No one knows what the world economy will look like in 10 years, and probably not even in 5.
Enzhymez@reddit
Bro asked ChatGPT for communism 😭😭😭
jolard@reddit
No chatgpt here mate. But feel free to use chatgpt in your critique of my position because I am pretty sure that would be the only way you could participate with any value.
Enzhymez@reddit
No critique here but I figure specific intricacies of economy and political theory aren’t going to be of much use when it comes to figuring out whether the RAM supply is gonna solve itself anytime soon
jolard@reddit
It is directly related. Chips are used for AI, and the chip costs are in a big part driven by the demand from AI companies. That is not slowing down any time soon, and the final impact of that change is unknown at this point because the current economic system will collapse.
So when people are asking when chip prices are going to come down, the reality is not any time soon, and no one knows mid to long term.
FirstFastestFurthest@reddit
It's entirely possible it never will. Everyone saying in a couple of years is assuming this is a bubble that bursts. While I agree that's more likely than not, there's very much the possibility it isn't, and prices never go back down.
prank_mark@reddit
When the AI bubble pops prices will start coming down. But there's no telling how long after that it will take for them to return to "normal"
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
COVID bubble popped in one day
Was looking at a 3060 ti for 599 and then the next bought one for 299...it actually had a 699 price tag on the thing lol
12FriedBanana@reddit
I imagine how that would go
"A 3060ti for 599? I mean... Maybe... "
Next day
"Okay let's see... HOW MUCH? 299 GREEN ONES? buy buy buy buy buy buy buy"
_Flight_of_icarus_@reddit
Good score!
That was a damn good card from that gen - maybe the last truly good to great Nvidia card with a sub-$400 MSRP - even if that MSRP was mostly a fantasy, lol.
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
Fuck dude..I was sitting in a 1660s for so long at 1440p..it was almost double the performance...holding out on these bubbles pays off...I was lucky enough to hear myself up(unknowingly) for this one...didn't figure my ram would be the one to appreciate value though lol...
I may even take a break from gaming if my rig goes for 4k or higher and just sell the thing and then return once the bubble pops for cheap. Been binging a bit too much anyway
_Flight_of_icarus_@reddit
That 1660s - that and the Ti were the last great budget models from Nvidia too, lol.
I still think they're worth using in super budget builds today for esports/older games - for the 2-figure prices they command now, you certainly can't complain.
Loose-Internal-1956@reddit
Or if it’s a bubble. Chat bots feel like a bubble, but the tons of ways AI is used in business doesn’t seem as bubblicious to me.
prank_mark@reddit
Businesses aren't really using AI that much, and if they're using it, it really isn't that productive. The only real uses so far are quick information searches, summarizing documents, and transcribing and summarizing meetings. And you still need to hope it doesn't hallucinate. Agentic AI is promising, but it isn't where it needs to be yet, and can't do significantly more than a regular algorithm or macro can.
Businesses are mostly using AI because it's a hype and they (understandly) don't want to be left behind. But it's popularity is also highly driven by the assumption it's cheaper than employees. However, besides the fact that AI isn't very capable, the only reason it's so cheap is because the AI providers are burning through piles of cash of tens of billions of dollars every year, financed by the sale of shares to the unknowing public and other massive tech companies. It's a massive interconnected web of investments, licenses, and hardware orders, and if one company goes down, it'll likely drag down the entire industry.
Loose-Internal-1956@reddit
Many businesses are using it for lighter use cases like you mention, but many are using it for deeper things. I’m personally working with businesses that use it for health (analysis, agentic, vision, voice agentic), fintech (diligence automation, fraud detection, anomaly detection), compliance (documents comply to industry or government standards), and e-commerce (better recommendations, features/dimensions for search, trend predictions).
I’ve been doing this kind of stuff since about 2012, and a lot of it is more “traditional” ML and computer vision, but LLMs are becoming useful in a lot of domains beyond what we typically attribute.
prank_mark@reddit
Fully agree that for those things it's useful, but it was already useful for that prior to LLMs, the promised agentic AI, and this boom. This boom is mostly hype, and the billions and trillions of investments and market value cannot be sustained by these relatively small scale usecases.
authorwithnobody@reddit
Try searching some marketplaces for computers built recently that are "broken" and see if you can salvage anything. A lot of people think once one part of the machine doesn't work it needs to be thrown out but more often than not they don't know what they have and I see whole PCs being sold for parts very cheap often.
AugmentedKing@reddit
Long time. While you wait, tell everyone to stop using AI.
Sixguns1977@reddit
I don't know why people want that trash to begin with.
Savings_Mango_5863@reddit
Its good for making a quick picture, doing kids hw, creating a story for you. So its good for mild entertainment.
_Flight_of_icarus_@reddit
Who says they did?
It's being shoved in our faces.
Sixguns1977@reddit
You're preaching to the choir, but rarely does a day go by when I don't see someone talking about running ai/llm or wanting to know how to do it.
Suvtropics@reddit
People now instead of saying "I heard that" or "I read somewhere that' say I asked chatgpt and it said that..
Wizard-of-pause@reddit
While I use it to support my work, I will actively avoid giving business to anything advertising with an AI slop ads. Exception: coca cola. Love me some zero.
BusinessTune2973@reddit
pepsi max miles better
RoseboysHotAsf@reddit
No one chooses to have 5 buttons of copilot in fucking word. MS is forcing it down our throats in the hope they find something that is even remotely useful (they wont ever find anything)
Kilo_Juliett@reddit
Why are you worried about upgrading or doing another build already if you're just now building your first today?
rred_fingerr@reddit
Some people man 😂. I made my first build work for like 7 years, if you don’t get at least 5 or so out of a build you’re burning money IMO.
wordfool@reddit
When all the data centers are either built or shelved?
Large-Ad-6861@reddit
Eh, quicker than you think. Longer than you are patient for.
Consumer market needs to sell phones, laptops, TVs and other stuff. In the end they either make more or someone will kick in the competition, because no one will resign of their money because some AI is taking over reserves.
Upbeat-Reflection775@reddit
When the AI bubble pops and 99% of these AI companies go out of business.
North-Flatworm-8619@reddit
Considering Micron shuttering Crucial is essentially giving the other companies precedent to do so in the future. I don't think it will let up boss
Custard_Launch@reddit
The prices are probably always going to be inflated from now on, but as for the insane prices right now. But who knows, surely all these companies can't keep buying it all forever.
frostyflakes1@reddit
Nobody knows.
Trying to 'time' the PC market has always been a fool's errand. Whatever component you want today will be cheaper and outdated in a few years.
VeritasLuxMea@reddit
2077
AudiblePlasma@reddit
Man I thought it was only SSDs and RAM for now. Most GPU prices still seem stable but I'm not sure how long that will last for
WerkingAvatar@reddit
Tuesday, March 22nd 2027.
ProtonPi314@reddit
Oh goodie this question again. Yes people on reddit are able to predict the future!
June 28th, 2028
Automatic-Prompt-450@reddit
MY dad works for Nintendo, and HE says that the prices will go back to normal on April 25th, 2028.
No-Improvement-8316@reddit
RemindMe! 4/25/2028
Error404IQMissing@reddit
How about the exact time?
Automatic-Prompt-450@reddit
He says 'noon plus or minus 11 hours and 59 minutes.'
thanks pops.
ProtonPi314@reddit
Ohh well let me check my crystal ball again!! I might misread my tarot card!!
J1mj0hns0n@reddit
Thanks I'll buy on the 32nd
pentaria55@reddit (OP)
People on reddit are also able to read from or speak to people whose job it is to predict the future...
greggm2000@reddit
And yet, they do a bad job of it usually. Being accurate and detailed about future events a few years out is really hard. Nearly always people get that wrong, and when they get that right, it’s usually pure luck. Even basic predictions like “we are going to have a recession in 2027” or “bitcoin will fall below $50K by 2028” are pretty much guesses, even if informed ones. Regardless, people tend to forget failed predictions and remember successful ones, bc that’s human nature.
Or to put it another way and answer the question you posed with this post: No, we don’t know any specific date. Whenever the AI bubble pops +6 months seems like a likely time to me. Hopefully that means this time next year. We’ll see in a year if I was right :)
ProtonPi314@reddit
Except they all give different dates. Cause no one knows
DivineObliteration@reddit
So like, you ask about the opinion of experts in your post. Is there a specific reason why you don’t google that very same question and read the articles from those experts to answer your question?
Fit_Substance7067@reddit
Funny thing is most people on reddit think they can predict the future
Due-Ambassador-6492@reddit
as an engineer works in semiconductor myself. I'd say it wont even go back to normal unless 2030 predicted AI bubble burst happen
Altruistic_Brick1730@reddit
Yes, and I can also predict the stock market
FullMeltAlkmst@reddit
By 2030 if the ai companies get their way. Restructuring the workforce from human to robot is going to take a lot of ram. When the humans are finally out and getting their basic income checks Ram prices will drop.
BigBadWolf7423@reddit
The GPU prices are actually really good right now as far as I'm aware.
Spooker337@reddit
18months, 16days, 13hours, 6mins and 42sec from now
supahottop@reddit
Procesor: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 – 3.6GHz (4.2GHz Boost) – AM4
GPU: Palit GeForce RTX 5060 Infinity 2 OC – 8GB GDDR7 – 128-bit
RAM: Kingston FURY Beast – 32GB (2×16GB) DDR4 3200MHz
SSD: Kingston NV3 – 1TB – PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2
coolers : Endorfy Spartan 5 ARGB
power supply : nJoy Synergy 550W – 80 PLUS White
motherboard : Gigabyte A520M K V2 – mATX – Socket AM4
case : IG-MAX E0901 1F TORPEDO
i got this pc for 1090 euro this week im glad i did
btw i never had this kind of pc does anyone have similiar build and does it perform really good
Inuakurei@reddit
Don’t listen to any pc gaming sub for timelines. They are historically shit at anything having to do with dates or time.
TDYDave2@reddit
This is just foreboding, the true apocalypse would be if China tries to take back Taiwan.
alonjit@reddit
anyone with that information is going to make bank. So, if anyone knows, they ain't telling, that's for sure.
alek_hiddel@reddit
Not for the foreseeable future. Supply chain increases can take a couple of years, and AI is simply continuing to grow at an increasing rate. If you’re dragging your heels waiting on things to get cheaper, either pull the trigger now or be prepared to wait a few years.
Combosingelnation@reddit
RAM: I got DDR5 6000 CL36 for 270€ and very happy
SSD: just got WD 950x 2TB for 159€ and very happy
GPU: got my 3080 OC for 750€ on release and hell no I'm going to upgrade soon
Electrical_Still9374@reddit
if u look at the chip crisis 2020 to 2023 i think we need to 2years and then prices will hopefully settle again
Actual_Pattern_265@reddit
When price / supply shocks happen this often you begin to realize it's a racket. It's not like hundred billions / trillion dollar companies couldn't figure out how to deal with supply shocks...after multiple ones have happened over 3 decades. And yet the result is always that prices get jacked 4x...and quarterly revenues go through the roof.
Some would say this is "just the free market in action bro!". These industries are subsidized to the tune of 100s of billions globally. The profits are through the stratosphere. There is zero reason for their to be, say, DDR4 shortages in 2025. If these corporations want their ginormous subsidies, then it should come with stipulations that they must devote more manufacturing to legacy tech (eg. DDR4, older GPU tech) so that small businesses, independent studios, students, artists, can still moderately compete with companies with significantly more financial resources.
It's funny, the various recent Chips Act, EU Chips Act (and others) devote hundreds of billions to these industries, yet virtually none of that is toward mature node / consumer accessible capacity. So expect to see this kind of shit continue to happen every year / couple years well into the 2030s. You'll continue to pay $1000 for 64GB or ram, from a company with a double digit billion subsidy, who screams "it's not profitable to support piddly consumer level products!" Enjoy.
ArmadilloFit652@reddit
gpu price never went back down,so i expect ram price to stay high
Flutterpiewow@reddit
lfg ubrs
Agitated-Tourist9845@reddit
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever.
webjunk1e@reddit
April 27, 2027 at precisely 12:36:09.803 GMT
Massive-Party5030@reddit
People were nagging at me for waiting before buying 50series.. glad I didn't. The price difference between what I paid and what it was going for just a month ago wasn't more than 100 bucks anyway..
Snow_Uk@reddit
This has only just started 3-4 weeks back your in this for the long haul it will be 1-2 years minimum
last time we had a memory price surge it went from equivalent £20- £200 for about two years
Heavy_Apple8154@reddit
Most likely 2027 unless taiwan manufactures a fuck more ton of the stuff gpu's, ram and storage needs.
Or just enough time for taiwan or china to make bad decisions to fuck it till 2030 or permanently.
Wizard-of-pause@reddit
No.
Demokrates@reddit
Never, because they will always find some stupid reason to make stuff rare and more expensive than it should be.
WizardMoose@reddit
There's no certainty. At the moment, there's a lot of speculation about the AI bubble popping. Some say it'll happen soon, others say its a year or 2 away before we have realistic expectations of AI and its capabilities. It governments with contracts in AI and key investors decide to pull out tomorrow, the AI bubble will pop, and we'll be a very different world when it comes to PC hardware availability.
If that doesn't happen soon, and we're in it for the long haul. it depends on what the RAM manufactures decide to do. If they try to expand their facilities, or reorganize them like they already have in favor of RAM for AI. Expansion will take time since they'll need to actually build the additional space needed, get machines in, employees hired, etc. I imagine it would take a year just to get a new facility open to expand their RAM production.
It's all up in the air. Keep in mind...this is going to affect PC's, phones, gaming consoles, and more. It's not just us that build PC's.
alloDex@reddit
2028 is probably where it ends but there's going to be something else to screw up the price soon after. It's been a trend since the RTX series started.
On another note, buy a phone ASAP! Don't wait at all, not even for the another week. Basically all consumer electronics need those chips that RAM/SSD/GPU uses. It's not just PCs.
komari_k@reddit
Mid to late 2028, only as a prediction on what I have seen and read. That and things are getting more resource heavy
RandomTxTQuote1@reddit
I got lucky with buying a prebuild, before ram went up
avalonrose14@reddit
I built my PC in 2020, upgraded my GPU, fans, and replaced my power supply in 2023, and upgraded my ram and ssd in 2024. Oh and I upgraded my headset and mouse in 2025.
I plan to upgrade my monitors and maybe my desk and gaming chair next year but I'm not desperate for it, they could just use an upgrade if I find a good deal.
I have zero concerns about waiting out the price gouging happening right now. I don't think I'll even be considering a full upgrade for another two years and if needed I could easily push my current kit for even a year or two longer and still play almost everything I want.
I don't mind playing on medium settings though (in fact that's the best I could do in most games until my GPU upgrade) so even if there are newer more intensive games I want to play in the next few years it's not a big deal to drop my settings. But I also don't play very many intensive games. I've yet to play a game with my current set up that I can't play on ultra settings without issue. I am not super knowledgeable about PCs so idk which games are even intensive games but so far I've had zero performance issues even with my motherboard and CPU still being the originals from 2020 and all my upgrades are holding up great too.
PCs aren't something you need to upgrade yearly. If you build a solid PC the first time, it should last you years. I put most of my budget the first time into my cpu knowing that once I needed to upgrade that it would likely mean I needed to start from scratch and rebuild so I wanted to invest in that the most up front so I could use the build for as long as possible. I cheaped out on a lot of other stuff to make it work at the time and the only thing I actually regret cheaping out on is my motherboard. Everything else was super easy to just quickly upgrade as needed.
I expect I'll need to soon swap from ultra settings to high in a year or so, but I expected I'd need to do that by now tbh and I've still yet to run into any issues running everything on ultra so what do I know?
The point I'm making is if you just built a PC you're fine and don't need to be worried about an upgrade any time soon.
AgentBond007@reddit
Same situation for me.
I built my SFFPC in 2023, and I don't intend to upgrade it at all until at least the end of 2028 if not later than that.
I mostly play older games, and the one newish game I play is Cities:Skylines 2 which does well enough on my system.
avalonrose14@reddit
For those curious here's my og kit and upgrades:
Original:
Motherboard: B450 Aorus M
Ram: Vengeance ddr4 2x8gb (16gb) 3200 mhz
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 X
GPU: Nvidia GTX 970
SSD: Samsung 500 gb (I don't remember details)
Case: Fractal meshify-c
Fans: $10 amazon fans (brand Cool Moon)
Keyboard: $20 Amazon keyboard (brand Dacoity)
Mouse: came with the keyboard
Headset: $20 cheap ass Amazon headset idk brand anymore I tossed those fuckers
Upgrades:
Ram: Vengeance ddr4 2x16 gb (32gb) 3600 mhz
SSD: Samsung 990 pro 2Tb
GPU: EVGA GeForce rtx 3080
Fans: Lian li fans (idk details my buddy gave me his spares)
Mouse: Razer Basilisk V3
Headset: Razer Kraken Ultimate
LawAbidingSparky@reddit
A 970 to a 3080 must have been quite the jump.
I just did a swap from a 1080 to a 5070… you could say it was noticeable.
PolentaDogsOut@reddit
Thanks for sharing. My progression is a little bit similar. I started ultra budget with a b450, 16gb ram, and a 5600g to try to game with integrated graphics. I quickly abandoned that though. Used an RX6600 for a while and then this past month i ended up buying a 5070. It’s great even on my budget build, but im trying to smooth some stuttering when loading different areas. I matched my two 8gb sticks for under $60 to get up to 32gb ram. And I’m doing a weird upgrade/sidegrade to a 5600x because I just want a 32mb cache. I found one for $120 and I’ll sell my 5600g so the cost should be relatively minor overall. Not considering x3d am4 chips the way they’re currently priced.
Just curious, what reasons do you regret cheaping out on the mobo? I think being stuck on pcie 3 is the only thing I’ve run into, but that seems minor overall
ButterFlyPaperCut@reddit
I have an old 970 and 1070 in storage. Its crazy how good Nvidia used to be. Never would’ve imagined them today, declaring they are an ai infrastructure company that “started” as a gaming company. For shame.
avalonrose14@reddit
My 970 performed crazy well honestly. It worked good enough for 3 years. I played an entire baldurs gate campaign on medium just fine. My buddy was just upgrading and sold me his 3080 for $300 so I would've been stupid not to take it.
It did set off a series of events where my poor cpu finally was unthrottled and could perform at the level it was meant to and my cheap shitty fans were no match so my PC would overheat and immediately turn off the second I turned it on. I thought something was majorly fucked. Threw in my buddies spare Lian lis and everything was just fine.
I'm a ride or die for the meshify case though because the fact those shitty fans kept it cool enough before it a testament to that cases airflow. Also I've never had to dust my pc. Every time I've opened it up to upgrade something since adding the lian lis its not had a speck of dust anywhere. Best case ever.
rapman543@reddit
very similar story for me too:
started with a b450f ryzen 3600 gtx 1070 8gb ram 750w psu 1tn nvme
and now it’s upgraded to 5800x3d gtx 5070ti 32gb ram 1000w psu 2tb nvme same mobo
can play everything i want to at high / ultra at 1440p. see no reason to upgrade anytime soon
ToxinFoxen@reddit
Supply and demand will win out. When people stop paying the nonsense prices for RAM, prices will go down. There's only so many datacenters that can be built before the market is saturated.
If you absolutely need to build a new PC, either buy used ram or buy the cheapest kit you feel you can cope with.
If this AI bubble causes the consumer PC market to dry up like a person dying of thirst lost in the desert, they're either going to engage in defensive economic warfare by refusing to do business with companies involved with this AI bubble, where possible, or they'll go bankrupt. We're stuck buying from CPU and GPU makers, but there's a lot of other companies in the PC gaming hardware market who aren't oriented towards useless datacenters servicing LLM garbage.
Mister__Roos@reddit
Well, at least I upgraded my GPU. Will have to wait til things cool off to upgrade the MB and CPU to that fancy ddr5 stuff.
Pure-Locksmith4689@reddit
Never. The higher ups are trying to make it difficult to build high performance PCs so you are forced to give in to their high computational cloud services for a subscription fee.
I may be put on a list for exposing this.
pentaria55@reddit (OP)
For the record I agree but jesus fucking christ can I ask a single question on reddit without getting told there's a conspiracy the world is going to end
mr_shogoth@reddit
Not if you want the truth.
zordonbyrd@reddit
When Micron's stock takes a nosedive
Successful-Train-259@reddit
My plan is to move my old Am4 5950X system into a new case and put a bow on it.
ChadHUD@reddit
Don't expect relief >.< Its not coming. I'm not a doomer but PC building RAM costs are going up they aren't coming back down. For people that have been around for a few decades. Hey we have had a period of incredible lows, where consumer parts synced up with non consumer server part production and costs were great.
Going forward server needs are different then consumer needs again. HBM memory isn't for us. Ram can't be produced as non ECC anymore.
As much as everyone wants to blame AI. Cloud computing is growing 17% every year and that isn't going to slow down until sometime in the 30s. Cloud was a $221.69 billion business in 2024 that is projected to reach $871.61 billion by 2033. The truth is if the projected demands on ECC RAM for servers in 2028 were the needs of today... world wide ECC ram production couldn't supply it.
So micron (and Samsung and Hynix they just aren't publicly saying it) are converting some lines to HBM production. However they also need to be producing ECC ram not consumer crappy ram. To meet demand for both server rams the production can only come from one place. Lines making non ecc ram chips. Samsung and Hynix are going to start non delivering RAM to consumer facing companies as well. They can't keep up. That isn't going to change. AI isn't the bubble people assume it is. AI and Cloud are hand and glove. Last week Elon told Rogan he expects in the not to far future that mobile phones will basically just be edge devices connected to the cloud all the time. HE is correct. Google was to early on their chromeos cloud idea. Its going to come back in a big way. The industry wants to push consumers to 100% cloud operation, and AI tools and toys are going to make it happen.
pentaria55@reddit (OP)
That sounds like the worst fucking timeline ever. I am aware of this trend and agree but saying the public will not own computers in 10 years is most certainly dooming
Still AI will not last forever but the larger trend of anti-ownership will. I hope more people talk about this and act in the coming years because I think this is avoidable if we get our heads out of our asses
Anyway this ruined my evening I hate reddit
ChadHUD@reddit
I don't disagree with you.
That is just clearly the big tech end game ya. None of us like it.
I am a realist though. As much as people want to believe its a bubble that is going to pop. Its not and it won't. AI isn't its own thing. The big tech players see cloud and AI as one. People like Elon don't even expect consumer operating systems to really exist.
Google is unifying Android and ChromeOS for this very reason. We are going to start seeing laptops with basically Android on them. With all the heavy lifting being done via the cloud. I hate it too but the average consumer is going to see low cost devices that perform better then anything else they have and probably eat it up.
When MS decides to release a thin version of Windows we know its gone to far to fix.
Zachrulez@reddit
The logistics of the demand at the moment honestly don't make a lot of sense. Billions to Trillions are being invested with no profitability in sight and mostly being done with the idea that eventually it will become profitable. Things that lose that amount of money are inherently unsustainable and a correction almost certainly is inevitable. It's just important to not confuse the AI bubble bursting with the idea that the bubble bursting means the end of the AI market. There will always be an AI market. It's just being suggested that what it eventually looks like will be nothing like what it looks like now.
ChadHUD@reddit
Very true. There may be a bubble pop. But it won't be the oh its over change people maybe expecting. If anything it will just be more things getting folded in. NV as an example recently started investing in Intel. Intel announces they will use NV iGPUs again. The pop may not get the companies people expect. NV may just grow stronger. I am not saying I believe Intel will end up being a division of NV.... it however is not impossible. More likely the two become more entwined.
Its going to be an interesting couple years indeed. One thing I know for sure. Things are never going back to the way they were either.
No_Creativity@reddit
I will be surprised if Fuschia ends up replacing Android or Chrome OS, Google seems to be pivoting more towards microfuschia virtualization within those OSes. And after 9 years of public development the only thing it’s done so far was make my alarm clock worse.
Microsoft has had a couple thin versions already, the latest being Windows 365. It’s only a matter of time until they start making that available to consumers.
kikomir@reddit
I have a friend that actually owns a PC hardware store and has been in the business for over 20 years. He told me he personally does not expect things to normalize for 5 years with the possibility of this being the new normal from now on.
And yes, this will affect everything that has memory so RAM, GPUs, even phones.
VoiceOfRealson@reddit
All of computing.
Older memory like eMMC and LPDDR4 is being phased out to make room for more profitable use of the factory space. Mobile phones are actually in the less vulnerable part of computing in this regard though due to the short life cycle most of them have in the market, while industrial and professional applications, were product lifetimes of 5-10 years are more common are facing "last time buy" scenarios in many cases.
(For the uninitiated: "Last time buy" is when a vendor announces that they are stopping production of a certain component and customers have the option to buy as many as they think they will need for production until they can either implement a replacement or retire the product. This is normal, but what is not normal is that this is happening so fast with memory, that it is even affecting products still in development phase.)
natflade@reddit
Something to consider too that if total sales volume is relatively the same, there's little incentive for manufacturers to lower their prices even if things stabilize. If they market can bear it they'll try and keep prices high. It's also seems more like manufacturers don't really want to deal with the logistical nightmare of the consumer retail space. Dealing with a small amount of companies that make massive orders is typically easier and more profitable.
Ok_Conclusion5966@reddit
like anything, the higher it spikes the faster it crashes
so you would hope it continues to rise sharply causing competitors to ramp up production and enter the market to obtain profits, increased supply will drive prices down when everyone realises they shouldn't be overpaying 500%
so pray for higher prices, if you know you know
nikoZ_@reddit
I think at a minimum you should expect to stick with your current setup for at least 12 months from now before it’s feasible to consider upgrading, depending on good deals/sales obviously.
Stooovie@reddit
No
Jeskid14@reddit
Summer 2026 to be realistic /u/pentaria55
Own_String2825@reddit
What will happen to all this company if this AI craze becomes a bust? Like would GPU price go down way hard or nah?
MadeByHideoForHideo@reddit
Haha.
Specialist_Fan5866@reddit
October 10th, 2026, at 10:00AM.
Odd_Dance_9896@reddit
can it happen in the morning please?
Iambetterthanuhaha@reddit
This is all Jensens fault. Team Green fucked us all in the ass.
FernandoTheRN@reddit
PC parts are so insanely expensive right now... I just looked at a 20 TB HDD for a Nas I bought in 2022 for less than $200, looking at current prices is absurd and with Crucial and Micron exiting the pc parts game, shit will only get more expensive.
randomredditor575@reddit
I’m actually trying to buy hdd now . How bad is the price compared to past?
_Flight_of_icarus_@reddit
Honestly, not that great.
I think I paid $65 for a 4 TB HDD a couple of years ago? Current prices have me wishing I bought 2 or 3 HDDs then.
PsyOmega@reddit
Next week when the AI bubble pops IDK
xl129@reddit
I pray twice a day for AI to blow up now, join me!
Bowmic@reddit
Just buy now and play. No point in worrying.
MDCCCLV@reddit
Phone prices probably less so, but it depends on if the manufacturer have a long term contract for parts with prices already set or not.
cheemstm@reddit
Yeah, when GTA VI comes out
Repulsive-Ad-8558@reddit
On pc
wrrd@reddit
Article from Reuters includes, "SK Hynix has told analysts that the memory shortfall would last through late 2027."
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/ai-frenzy-is-driving-new-global-supply-chain-crisis-2025-12-03/
Catnmouserntvtec@reddit
next gen / GTA VI
FluffyMoomin@reddit
I bought a used 2TB 990 pro ssd from the prime day sale where it was like an extra 20% off on the used stuff. It came out to ~$90 with tax.
I finally got the new computer I was waiting to put it in and opened it up and it's a 2tb 970 evo plus.
I get on chat with amazon and they actually will let me return it but then I look at prices. The new 990 pro 2tb is $190. A new 970 evo is $199... I cant even find anything new 2TB on amazon for under $150 unless it's a brand that sounds made-up and prolly not tlc.
I guess I'm just keeping the 970 evo since im only using it for my 2nd drive, to put games on...
What an age....
Tomato13@reddit
Honestly if anyone know they would short the the crap out of the market.
I would just ride it out if you can.
ParsleyTechnical7755@reddit
If we knew, people wouldn't be speculatively buying up all the stock on shelves.
throwawayripNZ@reddit
I’m so upset. I have an old gaming pc and was tempted this year to build a new one. Everyone on this sub cried to not buy and wait for the super cards. Now I cant afford my original upgrade plans and bought a PS5.
Hiply@reddit
With Crucial ending consumer RAM sales (because fuck AI server farms) I see this getting worse, not better.
SnapGA@reddit
Atleast 1 year but probably 2+
silverbee21@reddit
This is pre-shortage, price are straight up insane (scalper and opportunist). The price will be better a tiny bit next because demand and supply stabilize, then it will be the real shortage due to there is just not enough production.
My prediction? It's not gonna be cheap again, except in the unlikely scenario of 1 or 2 new player in memory production emerges.
better get used to it then hoping the uncertain future. If you need one now, buy it.
ninjazeke323@reddit
I wonder if I’d be better off just buying a prebuilt at this point because I really wanted to started building my own pc for the first time(I only have an rtx2060:/) but it looks like I’ll be waiting a while
stulew@reddit
About 12 months. I'm waiting for AI and stock market to sink; then the DIMM prices will quickly drop too.
fracl11@reddit
if it's anything like the rents, cars and groceries.. it will never go down.
pitotorP@reddit
In the coming years, owning powerful computers may become unaffordable, and instead we’ll be compelled to subscribe to computing power from major providers like Microsoft and Google.
rmckee421@reddit
My guess is 2027 or 2028 until things get a little more sane. If the bubble pops maybe a lot sooner!
Altruistic-Toe-5990@reddit
Yeah mate it'll be back to normal March 13, 2027
quickray2@reddit
chances are that it will happen within a week of you buying. So, hurry up!!!
Zachrulez@reddit
It's really a matter of when the startups that are inflating the demand and paying for hardware with money they don't have lose the ability to leverage the ability to do that.
SuperSaiyanNoob@reddit
never, they will always squeeze the most money they can from consumers
Canadian_Border_Czar@reddit
Surely if we keep posting about it, it will end faster.
I'm beginning to think this topic is a karma farm. This subreddit is basically spam bombed with this shit
bwy97754@reddit
I'll go ahead and out myself on main: I bought a 6800XT with one of those installment loan apps for 1600 dollars in early 2021. Probably the most ill-timed, shortsighted purchase I've ever made. That being said, I've gamed on it pretty much daily for those 5 years since then and have more than gotten 1600 bucks worth of enjoyment out of it.
I also bought an AM5 Mobo, CPU and RAM bundle from Microcenter for like 400 bucks total, right before ram prices went stupid.
What I'm saying here is: trying to time the market with any product, even PC parts, is futile. The best time to buy those parts are when you have the money and want the product.
(Oh and DO NOT use those installment loan apps; they are predatory as fuck and prey on your FOMO)
EfficiencyIVPickAx@reddit
It's a death spiral for the hobby. They aren't interested in our business anymore.
BigSmackisBack@reddit
Openai bought 900,000 dram wafers, they dont have the servers or the ability to turn them into ram yet because they dont know what what they need either.
Fabs arnt making extra ram because price high good.
If openai and other big ai/tech dont start hovering up and installing ram (and other components) then prices will settle sooner, if they do ramp up more, things will get worse and stay worse for a while.
Either way dont expect a return to sane prices for some time.
Rat-Head_7@reddit
When the AI bubble bursts.
zetalala@reddit
youre lucky because just 2 months ago it was a great time to build pc, since it's new should last you at least 2 years, it doesnt seem like it will be fixed in the short term, most people are saying 2027 at least
GoldPanther@reddit
I can't predict the future but here's my prospective on the state of play.
Production is being moved to the parts AI data centers need as there's massive demand at higher margins than the consumer market. This means that even if AI demand drops suddenly factories will need to be retooled for consumer products. That's an expensive and time consuming process that manufacturers will be in poor position to execute in the case of a "bubble pop".
On the positive side there's a lot more capital being allocated to development and a push towards efficiency.
All things considered I don't think now is a bad time to build a PC. In fact I just completed mine. CPUs and GPUs are readily available. Interesting cases are being made, reliable silent PSUs are easy to come by. Really the only major negative is that RAM is up in price and in the USA we decided to tax ourselves via tariffs.
TLDR: I don't see the consumer market improving anytime soon.
xeonicus@reddit
Never. If people are willing to pay inflated prices for goods, vendors don't voluntarily reduce prices. Unless they are facing fierce competition. Even so, it changes consumer perspective. Prices will never return to where they were.
Consider this. The best GPU in 2010 was the GeForce GTX 580. It cost $500. That was considered exorbitant back than. If you wanted a good mid-range GPU back then like an AMD Radeon HD 6850, it was around $180.
Takane-sama@reddit
If we knew, people wouldn't be speculatively buying up all the stock on shelves.
PotentialAd3603@reddit
Do you think this has artificially raised prices a bit in the consumer market and they could come down a bit?
Allucation@reddit
No. Micron literally got rid of their direct to consumer brand.
Could they come down a little? Sure, but I wouldn't gamble on it.
PotentialAd3603@reddit
Damn, it's only gonna get worse ig.
joergonix@reddit
The moment the world and especially the US economy collapses due to the AI bubble bursting. Unfortunately, most of us will fall on harder economic times and despite ram and GPUs being cheap we won't be able to justify spending on them.
Diligent_Brother5120@reddit
Never bud
AirManGrows@reddit
I got a rog strix G16 for only like 1800 on amazon for Black Friday. 5070ti and intel ultra 9.
Obviously, not very upgradable lol but seemed cheaper than doing a similar build than a tower. Not sure if that’s how it’s always been or not, I could’ve sworn it was the opposite before. But I don’t really game much any more, kind of outta the loop
laffer1@reddit
Buy the phone now. Ram shortage will affect phones
NicoleTheRogue@reddit
Right now the best you can do is get one of the newer Intel cpus that run on ddr4 which is still high but way cheaper. At least imo. The better Ryzen chips for am4 are discontinued though a 5800xt is serviceable. For GPU they will probably have some Christmas sales that make them somewhat reasonable hopefully, and I think you can still get sata ssds at a decent price
Electrical-Bee1713@reddit
Cpus coming too...
Due-Ambassador-6492@reddit
when AI bubble exploded then yes. its the time to get the part pc
right now either we get from shady brand and hope it works, or suck it up
Ultimatesims@reddit
oh shirt brother I don’t think there are any rules
Cake_Discombobulated@reddit
It won't as long as AI popularity continues growing, and I don't anticipate that ending any time soon.
9okm@reddit
Yeah, April 20, 2026.