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[Rifle] (Fixed the link) The race to the bottom continues. Wraithworks polymer AR-15, .223 Wylde, 16", $290. Only 4 left.

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Achy-Grump@reddit

I grabbed one. Figured what the hell.
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quail_challenge122@reddit

How is it?
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Achy-Grump@reddit

I haven’t shot it yet. Just got a Holosun ARO for it yesterday and will mount it along with some Magpul BUIS. I can report that the gun is amazingly light. Looking forward to testing it.
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wlogan0402@reddit

Assuming the upper isn't straight dogshit this is a good deal
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pinego123@reddit

FYI, it has a polymer upper/handguard.
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wlogan0402@reddit

Which isn't inherently bad
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cyclorphan@reddit

I would think the handguard would stay cooler after a good amount of fire due to poor thermal conductivity. So that's a plus at least.
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TheFriendshipMachine@reddit

From the experience of my all polymer EP9, polymer does maybe take a bit longer to transfer the heat and is maybe a little nicer than metal, but not enough to make any real difference. Once the heat builds up, it's coming through either way and it definitely builds up in a poly handguard.
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cyclorphan@reddit

Appreciate the info there. I've only used metal handguards so far and I'm sure there is a point at which it doesn't make much of a difference (and cooldown would be slower with polymer. I hear they make things you can put on your hand that can provide better thermal resistance.
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lennyxiii@reddit

I’m not a smart brain but i think you have it backwards. Poor or no conductivity means it can’t shed the heat so it builds up.
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cyclorphan@reddit

it also means it can't easily build up the heat, because conductivity is required both to absorb and dissipate heat (it is a thermal insulator). Meishel makes a good point, metal does help to pull heat away from the gun due to its conductivity. but it also gets much hotter much faster.
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Meishel@reddit

I have the Warp15. Since the gun is an insulator, the few parts that are metal get unbearably hot under repeated firing. I burned myself on a take down pin after 200 rounds. Get something else if you want to stick a FRT in it and mag dump all day.
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TheRealSchifty@reddit

Yes, it is. There's basically nothing to contain the explosion in the event of an out of battery detonation. I've seen standard aluminum uppers successfully contain OOBs and other overpressure events. I suspect a polymer upper would just completely detonate if one were to occur. Is it a fringe scenario? Maybe, maybe not. I've seen more than a few in my day though, it's rare but it happens.
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SeasonedAdManager@reddit

If you can afford this, you can afford an Andro Corp for $60 more.
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Meishel@reddit

Not everyone has the same needs as you. I wanted an ultralight AR for disability purposes that didn't break the bank since I wont be shooting it often. I put 600 rounds through it without issue. If you want something else, get something else.
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SeasonedAdManager@reddit

Totally fair. After building my 10 lb+ Radian AR, I want a VSeven Titanium/magnesium AR.
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JudiciousSasquatch@reddit

Are they good? Just started looking at this class of rifle. Very ignorant still.
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throwawayainteasy@reddit

I have one and love it. For the price (and really anything under ~$400) it's really hard to beat. Reliable, reasonably accurate, and all the parts are at least decent quality. It would never pass muster as an ultra precision rifle or bet-your-life-on-it duty weapon you can beat to hell and back, but for the price it's way better than it has any right to be.
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lennyxiii@reddit

What do you mean by this class of rifle? If you’re looking for your first ar style rifle i say get something more traditional. If you mean polymer or lightweight or something then have at it.
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BlueJeep84@reddit

Go through and hit everything with torque.Specs, and you should be good to go for a long time. They use good parts
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SeasonedAdManager@reddit

Mine has been great. No issues a couple thousand rounds through. Some people have reported issues, but Andro is responsive and should fix any problems you have. It's a $360 AR so you're not getting anything fancy, but you're not getting a bad rifle.
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Grouchy-Contract-82@reddit

Yeah but this is an interesting product not just a purely functional rifle
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SeasonedAdManager@reddit

Just go buy some nerf guns then. Those things are fuckin sweet.
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nubbinator@reddit

I've seen one comment from someone who owns it saying it shoots 2.5-3 MOA. Apparently, the upper is also polymer only without any steel reinforcements, which does not instill confidence in me for long term reliability.
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trotskimask@reddit

It says there’s an aluminum trunnion and brass rails inside the polymer upper, so it sounds like the polymer is built around metal parts. No normal AR upper has steel reinforcements. If executed properly, aluminum and brass should be fine. The if executed properly part hasn’t been tested yet.
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Meishel@reddit

I own one. Can confirm.
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Grouchy-Contract-82@reddit

Worst case scenario you are out a hundred bucks for a new upper receiver and handguard
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lennyxiii@reddit

I mean you don’t NEED a handguard.
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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

Every ar has a steel trunnion screwed into it, I sure hope they mean it has an extra one molded into the plastic for the steel one to go into.
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Grouchy-Contract-82@reddit

Even if the upper is dogshit an acceptable milspec BCG makes it worthwhile.
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deleted_by_reddit@reddit

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Rfelipe647@reddit

HATE LIVING IN IL
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GlitzyGazelle18@reddit

Same man
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Rfelipe647@reddit

it's tiring man
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GlitzyGazelle18@reddit

Amen. When I see stats like <3% of FOID holders even bothered to register their shit, I kick myself for selling my AR and PCC. 
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Rfelipe647@reddit

I got into this wayyy too late, should have started sooner 🫩
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headtattoo@reddit

Has that hillbilly kid done a burn-down on one of these?
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Facehugger_35@reddit

I would've bought this in a flash if not for the fact that I live in a ban state that thinks that all AR15s, even plastic ones, are made of satanium.
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Package_Objective@reddit

I love my complete wraithworks kp15 lower that I got for 90 dollars shipped a couple years ago but there's no way I would expect a polymer upper and handguard to last 1000-2000 rounds and any real usage other than gentle range sessions. I paired my lower with a delton 20inch $200-$250  "m16a4 at home" upper now that's the way to do it. RIP delton 
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MaxRecoil@reddit

I got a KP9 lower for $65 and Odin Works Super Lite Barrel $52 and built the most fun little freak of a 9mm AR. It’s one of my favorite guns, I am so thankful for the gundeals sub.
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IllSkyHelix111@reddit

OOS
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bolivar-shagnasty@reddit (OP)

#WE DID IT REDDIT!!
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IllSkyHelix111@reddit

gently, mark it OOS or [Spoiler] then
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bolivar-shagnasty@reddit (OP)

I don't know how to mark OOS. Does a spoiler tag do that?
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IllSkyHelix111@reddit

yes! you got it. as the OP, you can also comment "bot OOS" and the moderator bot will do it but you don't need to do that in this case since you already marked it spoiler. thanks!
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IllSkyHelix111@reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WckVsX5-uyE
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MadMike32@reddit

In for one, for my mom for Christmas.  Figure I'll probably swap the upper from one of my other AR's for her, and then either fuck around with the polymer upper for fun, or pull the BCG and barrel for another build.
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sickels61@reddit

AR's are quickly turning into Chinese 870 clones, wonder when PSA will offer complete rifles as packing peanuts......This is ridiculous
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bolivar-shagnasty@reddit (OP)

> This is ridiculous This is America
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ChrmanMAOI-Inhibitor@reddit

No, this is Retarta
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UserOfWill@reddit

Retartians, assemble!
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Rich-Candidate-3648@reddit

[Me tard, you tard, retard nation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QczWt8Se8Kc)
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cyclorphan@reddit

yes! one of the best clips from one of my favorite shows. I make this reference whenever I can.
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arethius@reddit

No, no, no! We're taking it back!
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Rich-Candidate-3648@reddit

Like Randall did.
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ImDukeCaboom@reddit

Supply and demand. Saw gas for under 2 bucks yesterday. It's not a good thing.
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sickels61@reddit

I wouldn't say its a bad thing, the budget ar market is way too oversaturated. Not to mention companies wanted exorbitant amounts for things that weren't worth it, not saying the kp 15 lowers aren't worth it, but the product is niche to the average consumer so its getting lumped in with the stuff thats just not moving. I would say cheap AR's is actually a good thing, representing there's no panic buying, and will keep prices for the average firearms consumer down.
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ImDukeCaboom@reddit

That's true. I've never heard of this brand until this ad. But am aware of the fairly cheap pony rigs. Of course there's the extreme other end like HK. There's definitely panic buying going on here in Colorado! Stupid new law goes into effect Aug 1st that requires some, still unknown, lengthy class and registry to buy anything not rimfire or shotty.
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WooHoo2You@reddit

The difference is PSA will put some cringe logo / meme on the side that *only* costs $200 over the standard "blem" version ;)
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BlameTheOther@reddit

I know that guy from my days in paintball. I dont know anything about the gun, but the guy behind it is a solid dude.
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Heavy-Procedure2232@reddit

KE arms lower, propriety single upper. Respectable, I hope they are reliable and we see more people offering reliable lightweight cost effective rifles.
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Grouchy-Contract-82@reddit

It is a valid product but naming the gun the WARP was stupid
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rdmrdtusr69@reddit

WARP SPEED!
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Sample_Name@reddit

My first thought too. Naming your product WARP is not going to assuage buyers worried about durability of a plastic AR.
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TheSlipperySnausage@reddit

Lmao terrible marketing
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SuitableExercise7096@reddit

naw dog
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GoldfishDude@reddit

Fwiw, I have had one of these lowers for a couple of years and it works well. Can't speak for the upper
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