In 20 years do you think we will be perceived the same way as boomers are now?
Posted by tandem545@reddit | Xennials | View on Reddit | 447 comments
Will we be the ones the younger generations roll their eyes at during holiday dinners for saying politically incorrect or offensive things? Or do you think that goes away with the boomers dying out?
JDNB82@reddit
We already are
catsdelicacy@reddit
Yeah, because the rich are very good at focusing our attention on the differences between us.
I'm a lot more like a poor Baby Boomer than I am a rich X.
We do this stupid generational, gender, and race divide because the rich never want us to focus on the only one that actually means anything: class.
dotBombAU@reddit
Media will try to pit us against each other. It tries really hard with millennials and gen z already.
_MadGasser@reddit
According to posts I see on this sub - yes!
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
The example I always use to show how boomerish this sub is was the “I refuse to learn how to use ChatGPT and ai!” Like you couldn’t just swap out “email” or “internet” and be labeled a boomer. This sub is a nightmare sometimes.
amindfulloffire@reddit
Except that email and internet are useful tools and ChatGPT is using the data and creative works from humans to give misinformation and "art" slop.
StevieV61080@reddit
As a college professor, I am in definite agreement.
Sorry-Joke-4325@reddit
Maybe try looking into applications that aren't directly related to writing fake papers. AI has plenty of legit use cases.
random9212@reddit
I am curious what legit use cases you think it has?
Sorry-Joke-4325@reddit
Brainstorming, preliminary research, project planning, analysis, the list goes on. It's a tool that can be used in many different ways.
Never try to pass off something it generates as your own, that's plagiarism.
naamingebruik@reddit
Don't know man... chatgpt can also very confidently give you false information
Sorry-Joke-4325@reddit
I didn't say use it as your Bible. Use it as a starting place, get the ball rolling. Don't trust anything. Always have multiple sources anyway, this is a cardinal rule.
naamingebruik@reddit
Yeah but most people are lazy. My sister loves chatgpt and uses it a bit like google and blindly accepts everything chatgpt tells her. And she's the academic who teaches master students out of the two of us.
I tried doing something in Blender which I had no experience with and asked chatgpt to guide me through the process step by step.... took 2 days to something that should have taken 10 to 20 minutes.
Chatgpt just kept making me do more and more pointless elaborate things that weren't needed. It often lost the pmot of what we were doing and all the while telling me how great I was doing and how genius each of my suggestions was... which after a while started to infuriate me but since I did learn a few things about Blender even with the chatbot's needless actions and ocassionally made up functions I figured I'd also use it to make an Aspis (Hellenic shield the hoplites would use) I had the perfect shape and first steps and then chatgpt started telling le I was wrong and needed to flatten certain things for comfort etc... and then it asked shall we move on to the shieldboss? So I said shieldboss? An Aspis doesn't have those did you lose the plot again? And then it started with that sucking up tone again oh you are absolutely correct for an Aspis you were actually on the right track and yes you don't need a shieldboss would you like me to guide you through the steps etc....
Drove me nuts eventually used a youtube tutorial
Sorry-Joke-4325@reddit
Yeah, that's a hard limit. You have to use it more abstractly. It's not an actual intelligence. AI is a misnomer. It's an LLM.
Don't expect Chatgpt or other similar services to act like a hired worker. Like I said, it's a tool. It's only as effective as the user. For example, ask it to summarize the YouTube tutorial and highlight important elements in a step by step outline. That's what it's good for.
FestiveArtCollective@reddit
I can actually be used quite well in scenario planning for disaster management and climate change mitigation/adaptation. Most of the criticism against AI is valid, however, there are ways to use it for good. We can't have an all or nothing view of things like this and just put our heads in the sand. That's how the people who want to use it for evil will win. It's being used whether you like it or not. We have the ability to try to lobby for it to be put to good use that will hopefully counteract some of the bad.
S4Waccount@reddit
That was my first thought as a millennial lurking here. The fact that this is all AI seems to be to some people of this generation is exactly what the point of this whole thread is.
GasStationChicken-@reddit
ChatGPT has been a tremendously useful tool for me a female xennial her flew under the radar for about 40 years with undiagnosed ADHD and has struggled with executive function my entire life. As I reached perimenopause, my executive function issues have declined further and using ChatGPT as a personal assistant has provided much needed organization, helpful tips, and saved me many many hours of tedious cross checking of minute details work for my job making it so that I can get my work done more accurately and efficiently. I have never once used it for art and don’t intend to.
phoenixfromsyd@reddit
Hi! I was diagnosed a few years ago, in my early 40s. Have you got any tips that you'd share with me? I know if I actually opened ChatGPT I would go down a rabbit hole. I'm really struggling atm. TIA
GasStationChicken-@reddit
Hi! Well, the good news is that it’s actually not easy to fall into a rabbit hole with ChatGPT, if that makes sense? Unless you feed it information or tasks it doesn’t actually do anything. You have to train it to work with you just like you would an actual human personal assistant. I would start with using it to help you organize a weekend task list, for example. But before you do that, you need to introduce yourself. I started mine with who I am how old I am gender where I live, and goals that I would like to achieve by using the program.
I would pick a day that you need to get a lot of tasks accomplished in general. Like, laundry, wash the dishes, take out the garbage and other household chores along with anything else that you have difficulty doing, especially when the ADHD starts to kick in and you become immobilized from doing basic things as taking a shower and brushing your teeth.
For a Saturday I would tell it that I need to accomplish the following: go to PetSmart for cat litter. Go to Walmart for deodorant, face wipes, butter, and spaghetti. After that, I need to go to the laundromat but I just remembered I am out of dryer sheets so add that to my Walmart list. I also haven’t had any lunch today so let’s try to find something that I might like that is located between the PetSmart and the Walmartthat is a fast casual location and under $15. Before I do any of that though, I need to get up take a shower make sure I brush my teeth and it’s kind of cold today so make sure I grab a sweatshirt. Oh, and I need to feed my cats too. And I need to load the laundry into my car.
So all of the above I just used voice text the same as I would into ChatGPT. Basically just speaking the random ADHD thoughts bouncing around in my head. I sometimes even go further and tell it to go to a certain Walmart or a certain Petsmart and then map out all of those tasks in order of number one number 2 etc all going in the right directions so that I end up at the laundromat. Then you tell it to go ahead and create your list for you and it will map out all of your tasks according to the commands that you gave it suggest a restaurant even a menu item if you’re interested in something in particular. It’s really amazing!
Once it knows about you and your goals, you will have to train it less and less each time you use it. The restaurant example I gave is pretty cool because if you go to the restaurant that it suggests you can tell it afterwards to mark that restaurant for future lunches or say you didn’t really like it that well and let’s not suggest that again and it won’t suggested again. Or if you didn’t go to the restaurant that it suggested you could tell it that you didn’t go to that restaurant but to keep it on your list for future lunches and that you did go to a different restaurant that you really enjoyed and to also add that to your list for future lunches as well
At work, I use it in a very different fashion. I work in high end travel sales so I am comparing very small itinerary, details writing itineraries costing trips deciphering my boomer bosses, strangely orbit, emails, etc. I create individual chats that are saved along the left-hand side menu for certain types of common tasks that I do at work. For example, if I need to cross check an itinerary to the confirmed reservations for the trip, I will drop in a PDF copy of the most recent itinerary along with PDF copies or the actual emails into ChatGPT and instruct it to cross reference the confirmations to the itinerary and pull up a list of items that match and then a list of items that don’t match our potentially need further investigation. It’s really really good at cross checking information like that. I do use it for some travel research but tend to use it more as a baseline to get me pointed in the right direction because I have found that it does sometimes come back with information that is not entirely accurate.
Sorry this was very very long. I should’ve probably run my comment through ChatGPT to make it more concise! Honestly, you just have to kind of jump in and see if it works for you!
phoenixfromsyd@reddit
Thank you so much for your reply. I am going to block out some time to READ it again.
HugeTheWall@reddit
I could listen to you all day about how you use this for adhd in detail. Thanks for the ideas!
GasStationChicken-@reddit
Aw, thank you so much!
frooootloops@reddit
This is a beautiful summary of how it can help us ADHDers! I also ask it to help me make a decision, and walk me through the pros, cons, and other things I should consider.
ouijahead@reddit
At work I am an old dog trying to learn a new trick at my age. But absolutely do not want to go back to nursing on the floor. I want to be on the computer side, and my robot friend knows the entire manual of my job. I could not do this without it to answer any question and guide me. If I don't understand something, I'm like " slow down, explain it to me like I'm 5", it will never be impatient or give up on me. In fact, a concern of mine is that AI will be DOING my job in coming years . ( I'm an MDS nurse). Chat makes a lot of mistakes at a lot of things, but it's still in its infancy. It will learn and learn and learn. I can't tell you how many times I've been in a situation and asked it for help. The difference between it and Google is that you can ask it follow up questions or to explain things a different way. And it's never trying to sell me anything. I would t be surprised if that comes later.
DarkAngela12@reddit
It isn't trying to sell you things....yet.
If you haven't already, watch Black Mirror. There's an episode about a lifesaving medical treatment that eventually turns the person into a live ad.
juniper3411@reddit
That one was so painful to watch. And I could absolutely see it happening.
Ok_Researcher_9796@reddit
Yeah that was wild. You had to keep getting higher and higher prices subscriptions to not have ads.
stitchinangel@reddit
That tipped it. Adding Black Mirror to my watch list. Thank you, random Redditor!
ouijahead@reddit
Black Mirror will keep your attention
Separate-Succotash11@reddit
That’s a great episode.
Dapper_Elk9048@reddit
Wow, same, 41f also ADHD that went undiagnosed for years, and struggling in perimenopause. ChatGPT really helps me with decision paralysis!
juniper3411@reddit
Yeahhh I’m more against AI because of the environmental impact than anything else. Using it for stupid crap and draining our world of precious resources is bullshit.
blellowbabka@reddit
Some aspects of ai are good and d9me aren’t. Generative ai that is asked to produce full books or art is slop, but that’s not all it can do
nirreskeya@reddit
I'm usually very careful about spelling and grammar but I think I can get behind uni;ue t54os like this to differentiate.
robboppotamus@reddit
blellowbabka@reddit
I accidentally hit the number key by accident all the time and don’t realize it. Also I’m very lazy
nirreskeya@reddit
Yeah I figured. I just like it as a strategy. ;-)
shinydolleyes@reddit
Except that's not the only thing you can use it to do. I just used it yesterday to do a comparison of the 15 or so different insurance plans being offered I work. I had a sense the one I've been using for the past 2 years might not be the best answer, but I never had the time to sit down and figure out why. I gave it some basic info about the Healthcare I typically use yearly to determine what my best options are. It kept me from spending hours digging through provider directories, comparing formularies, drug tiers, and using price estimation tools. Now all I have to do is validate/confirm the analysis and make my final decision. It did in about 5 minutes what would have taken me an entire weekend to do. Regular Google couldn't do that.
Refusing to use it at all doesn't make sense because it isn't going away just because you hate it. It will evolve and hopefully be regulated at some point. It's just like how my grandma refused to get call waiting or a cell phone for decades until she missed a call about my mom being in the ER bc she had been talking to her sister for hours and had no idea anything was wrong. Then suddenly the technology made sense.
SnowMission6612@reddit
If you're seeing misinformation and AI slop, get off social media. There's very little of it outside of there.
It uses the data and creative works from humans, yes, that's absolutely true. (And it is both economically and environmentally unsustainable right now, which is another major point we should talk about)
If you're saying it's not useful, though, you're crazy. I can do 40 hours of work in 2 or 3 hours now. Reading through (literally) thousands of pages of API documentation to find the one function I'm looking for takes about 10 seconds now. That's not nothing.
If you want to take on the boomer attitude of "I don't want to learn it", you're never going to see anything but negatives.
rekep@reddit
But is it worth the environmental impact, and the raise in cost of utilities and water?
SnowMission6612@reddit
It's a good question.
(And we're going on a tangent here. I really just wanted to point out the absurdity of claiming that it's not "useful". It's very clearly useful. But this is an interesting tangent)
These are just my personal thoughts and speculations....
It will be environmentally (and economically) viable at some point, and maybe even some point soon. We're at the point now where commodity hardware you get on the shelf from Best Buy can do inference pretty well on fairly large models. There are big open source models that are pretty competitive with the famous models (ChatGPT, Gemini, ...) and at the very least are capable of improving people's productivity tremendously. And I can't give an exact date it'll happen, but probably in the not-so-distant future, people will be run these sorts of things on their grandma's random PC like it's no big thing.
Training, of course, is another kettle of fish. We don't see it on the horizon yet that people will be able to train a giant model at home (but the way technology advances unpredictably, it could happen sooner than we think). The nice thing about training, though, is theoretically someone just has to do it once and then everybody can benefit from it.
If the AI boom had been allowed more organically, I think people would have been a lot happier with it, and the environment would have been a lot happier with it, too. It would have happened slower, more gradually, and the demands for training wouldn't have exceeded our technical capabilities.
The problem is we've got all these billionaire yahoos invested "gross market distortion" sums of money at the AI startups. So much money that they're basically telling the AI startups "literally ignore reality for the foreseeable future and just force this to happen any way you can" and it just feels like it's forced the AI boom to happen so abruptly and artificially.
I don't know exactly what to do about that.
I think (hope?) that the unsustainability era we're in right now won't last long. Like I said, we're maybe approaching a state where we can do a lot of this without huge environmental impacts. We're approaching diminishing returns with transformer models, so it's entirely likely that AI investment is a bubble right now. I hope that whoever invested in OpenAI loses money big time so that they'll be less reckless in the future.
But even if this is a bubble in the worst way and it pops in the worst way, the tools we have (especially the open source ones like the current llama, DeepSeek, etc.) are never going to disappear. They're just too useful.
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
Why would you immediately go to art? Do you think that’s the only use for ChatGPT or AI? Showing your own boomer bullshit with that comment.
Gia_Lavender@reddit
Its insane how many people use AI for medical issues, it literally made up a disability out of my symptoms by pulling from two other disabilities and I had to backtrack extensively to figure this out. This type of hallucination is LLM behavior that cannot be fixed
HugeTheWall@reddit
Sad this is downvoted. We have so many X boomers already apparently. Yes AI art slop is horrible, but so is "the internet" for spreading misinformation and horrble photoshopping and bad tiktoks.
We can't say phones are useless because of spam calls when they can also keep you in touch with a loved one or call an ambulance.
I get people feeling frustrated with the obvious bad uses of AI, but when they refuse to look into it any deeper it's just proud luddite mentality like boasting you "dont do math" or refuse to use a dishwasher or car.
It's a tool that can be amazing or horrible just like all tools. The people using it are what makes it good or bad. Using it to put your mom at ease during a health crisis is a perfect example. Downvoting that is just hateful boomerism
I hope your mom is doing well.
The_Max-Power_Way@reddit
Wild that you confidently say it was 100% accurate. What it did was give results that lined up with your doctor's analysis. Could be that doc is also using AI. Its probably better with something very common, like breast cancer, but I have tried using it for recommendations for my fairly rare genetic condition, and it is clearly pulling anecdotal results from reddit and presenting them as fact. None of their suggestions could be linked to peer reviewed studies- just posts. But it was totally confident in recommending a regimen for me. Telling people who have reservations about AI that they're a boomer just makes you look uncurious.
VOLTswaggin@reddit
This is why you'll rightfully get called a luddite boomer. That is ONE use it is capable of, and people are writing off all the tons of other aspects this tool has because it creates shitty soulless art. It wouldn't be creating the art if people weren't telling it to create that art. What you're doing is writing off an extremely versatile Swiss Army knife because it includes a corkscrew amongst its many MANY other tools, and you're blaming the actions of drunk people on the corkscrew.
random9212@reddit
The luddites were right though. They weren't anti technology for the sake of being against advancement. They were against it because it was being used for the enrichment of a few instead of for the benefits of humanity.
mama_snail@reddit
not to mention the insane environmental damage
SlackerDS5@reddit
Yeah, and ai isn’t useful at all. And pre-ChatGPT, no one was using the internet or other people’s information and photoshop to produce slop.
The irony is palpable.
iduzinternet@reddit
Why don't you pick up the phone and just call them! So much is lost in how someone feels with email and internet. Your losing that personal touch... write a card! - some boomer who does not see internet and email the same way you do.
I'm fairly sure there's not stopping AI, future generations will absolutely need to use it and it will be so common that any argument against it now will feel antiquated.
soulever989@reddit
AI is capable of MUCH more than just making slop. Get your head out of the sand,
invuvn@reddit
Much like all new forms of technology, there is a learning curve. AI can be trash, yes, but if used wisely and correctly can also be a powerful and time-saving tool.
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
No no.. you see… it has no purpose.
MildColonialMan@reddit
In the wrong hands and without thorough regulation, it has the potential to create (mis)information bubbles infinately worse than the social media algorithms that have already fractured democracies worldwide
... but nefarious interests don't and won't hold the keys to it, right? Sutely, we can trust our competent government leaders to implement effective safeguards against its abuse, right?
naamingebruik@reddit
Chatgpt is a bit odd. If I need an ego boost chatgot is nice to interact with since it prioritizes sucking up to you.
But if you need it for something useful like helping you learn Blender it's pretty useless. It constantly loses the plot of the overall goal and it doesn't really know blender all that well and even make up certain actions that itctells you to do that aren't possible since the functions don't exist..
shmelse@reddit
Was I a boomer bc I didn’t embrace NFTs or the metaverse? No, these things were stupid and tech spent years and billions of dollars trying to tell us they were useful and they were not and now they’re gone. This AI nonsense will be the same way - it’s just not that useful, no matter how much money gets dumped into it and how desperate they are to sell it to us. Dude down thread is saying he uses it to write a grocery list. But I can already do that? It’s embarassing if you can’t? I can also write my own emails and read my own books, I don’t need to ruin the environment and steal a bunch of people’s work to have a computer do a bad job of doing that for me. Not embracing every tech trend doesn’t make us boomers. Some things seem bad bc they are bad.
HugeTheWall@reddit
You're already ruining the environment using reddit simply to argue and make fun of people who are getting help with things they find hard and their disabilities.
AI is a broad category. Scientists are using it to help find patterns in large data sets to help the environment like the bees, or in health care.
It's more like saying you refuse to learn the internet, not a specific thing like chat gpt or NFTs or the metaverse.
What's embarrassing is you proudly boasting about how you're better than someone because you excel at making grocery lists. Not everyone has the privilege and support that you do in life. No need to be rude to them for that
random9212@reddit
Those scientists aren't using ChatGPT or any AI the general public has access to to do those analysis. They are using highly specialized models. Yes for some things AI will be amazing. But AI itself is not going to change the world.
HugeTheWall@reddit
AI isn't Chat GPT. But hate away on anything new
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
It’s amazing how little understanding you have of technology. Comparing AI to MFTs… woof. I stopped there. No convincing people who chew on soap.
JayEllGii@reddit
No, I reject that comparison. Generative AI is not like previous advancements. It’s of an entirely different nature, its implications for society are completely different, and — perhaps most importantly — it’s being created, developed, propagated and perpetuated by actors with a VERY different set of motives.
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
I don’t give a shit if you reject that comparison.
JayEllGii@reddit
My. Someone herds a nap.
BadAtExisting@reddit
I think this is individual. I’m not particularly interested in learning to use AI, but I’m not in tech, I’m in residential construction and ChatGPT isn’t helping me wire houses, nor is it about to take my job. I’ll take my boomer card if not using AI is all it takes
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
You can literally use it to build mundane things like grocery lists, or help you plan a workout. Or a vacation.
You can seriously have just fed ChatGPT a dozen recipes for thanksgiving by copy pasting links (not the ingredients lists, the actual recipe links) and it will parse all the data, build your shopping list, and if you know what store you’re going to it might even be able to tell you which aisle everything is in.
You don’t need to be in tech to use it. I don’t know how many times people need to hear this.
BadAtExisting@reddit
I’m sorry to offend you but nothing you listed makes me feel like I’m missing out on, well, anything
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
Cool man than you can keep finding reasons to make your life harder while I go on vacations and enjoy my free time.
BadAtExisting@reddit
Didn’t say “trash” said I’m not interested. For whatever reason you, random internet person on Reddit, cannot accept that someone isn’t interested. You use it. I don’t care. At all. I don’t use it and you care enough to try to convince me. That’s weird my guy
noronto@reddit
AI is everywhere and the fact that you do not use ChatGPT directly doesn’t mean that you don’t use AI.
BadAtExisting@reddit
That’s fine. I don’t care. It’s not about actively avoiding using AI. It’s about not going out of my way to use it specifically. I’m not interested in doing that. If I Google something and the Google AI what’s out my answer before I get to the links, cool man. I’m not downloading ChatGPT or whatever you gotta do to use it directly any time soon. I’m simply not interested in putting in that effort. Don’t know what else to say to you people
noronto@reddit
Googling something is using AI. That’s the point. I’m sorry you are BadAtExisting.
BadAtExisting@reddit
Bro. What the hell is wrong with you? Serious question. Why do you give this much of a shit that I use ChatGPT? Or any AI. I just fucking said that if Google uses AI cool. The fuck are you even arguing about?
4RealzReddit@reddit
It’s like religious people, they have found god and they are spreading the good word. I use AI all of the time but it can be a bit culty at times I find.
noronto@reddit
It seems like the people who don’t want to use AI are either the ones who don’t realize they are already using it or they are the people walking around with wired headphones.
BadAtExisting@reddit
I use Bluetooth ear buds but Bluetooth compresses the audio so even if you’re listening to uncompressed audio files on Bluetooth speakers you’re still listening to compressed audio. Wired headphones do sound better.
Seems you also can’t let it go when people you don’t know don’t want to use AI. What the fuck is wrong with you people? My choices don’t affect you in the slightest. Why do you care?
Zeke688@reddit
Why do you think everyone NEEDS it so bad? Do you really think anyone not using is making their life harder? It’s useful, but not a necessity like you’re making it out to be. FFS if we as a society can’t make our own grocery lists we are fucked.
Gia_Lavender@reddit
This is how I feel tbh its been years and I literally cannot think of a single reason to use AI sorry if that makes me a boomer.
ouijahead@reddit
Those weren't very good examples the person gave you. For me I use it when Google is not giving me direct answer or I don't feel like reading a long article to find something out. It has its place, and you do not need it. I may try to get my parents to use it. They won't need me to fix the computer. I can just tell them to take a picture of what the computer is saying the AI will a step by step on how to fix it.
random9212@reddit
Use your actual brain sometimes. Your brain is a muscle if you don't use it and offload your thinking to an outside machine your mental facilities degrade. Why is ot making a shopping list always seems to be the use case people suggest for chatGPT? Humans have survived shopping for hundreds of years before AI came along.
noronto@reddit
Maybe you are new to the internet and are not aware that most recipe links are filled with ads and not easy to navigate. So if you are interested in making a new recipe, AI can parse through a bunch of recipes and make a list for you.
random9212@reddit
I can, and do that regularly. I have been a professional cook for 20 years. I don't need AI to tell me that glue goes on pizza
noronto@reddit
This is what’s wrong with people. Congratulations on being a professional cook for 20 years and clearly not understanding how somebody without that experience might not be as familiar with ingredients as you.
random9212@reddit
Again use your brain. It isn't hard to figure these things out. Being told by a machine that is known to lie how to do something is a dumb idea. If you don't know how ingredients interact you shouldn't be experimenting with recipes. use a trusted recipe from a reliable source if you cant take a little bit of time to figure out how to do something on your own.
4RealzReddit@reddit
I use it all of the time at work, especially for writing emails that I used to overthink before sending, now I toss it in and say make this more diplomatic. Then a quick read and a slight tweak and done.
noronto@reddit
I used it to compare bicycles when I picked it up as a hobby. What’s funny was I tried to utilize reddit to get feedback on bikes I was interested in and the responses I got were sparse and biased, while AI just gave me a bunch of facts and figures.
random9212@reddit
Based on those sparse and biased results
noronto@reddit
No. But thanks for playing.
random9212@reddit
Ok so you are just bad at research then. Got it
noronto@reddit
Yep. That’s why when entering a field I know nothing about, I use whatever tools I have at my disposal.
random9212@reddit
Where is AI getting these facts you cant find then? If you want the specs of various bikes most manufacturers of note will have them listed on their website.
noronto@reddit
AI is able to read things in Polish. I do not have that skill. I live in Canada, so it’s hard to research a bike that somehow made its way here but doesn’t have a local distributor. Hope that helps.
random9212@reddit
So you thought it would be a good idea to buy a bike with no support in the area you live? I see why you rely on AI for all your thinking.
noronto@reddit
Yes. I thought getting a really expensive bike for the third of the price was a good idea.
random9212@reddit
Do you buy cheep BMWs or Mercedes too?
random9212@reddit
I don't refuse to learn how to use chat gpt. I just refuse to use it because it doesn't provide me anything of value.
MainNormal5570@reddit
Email has a much less negative effect on the environment than AI/chatgpt. All these data centers destroying communities and such. That’s why I don’t use it.
Valadrea@reddit
AI doesn't know what facts are, only what they look like.
SuperRocketRumble@reddit
I use AI for a few very legitimate useful applications.
The vast majority of AI output is useless slop that is a waste of time, resources and our attention. I don't fuck with that.
Refusing to use "the internet" or "email" or other legit useful things is another matter altogether.
Rammspieler@reddit
Have we not seen enough Terminator movies as kids to see how exactly this plays out?
Affectionate_Lab_131@reddit
77’ here. I completely agree with you. I work with AI daily. It is my job and I love it. The same things they say about ai was said about the WWW and email back in the 90s early 2000s. Some people are short sighted and cannot see what can be. They only see what is now and a few months to a year from now.
ChogbortsTopStudent@reddit
You're right. The thing about AI is it can be useful. Somewhere in this thread, I think it was you maybe who gave examples of things it can do and someone replied that it doesn't need it for those things. Okay cool. Knowing what it is/how to use it isn't the same as using it. The "Boomer" feature is refusing to learn. People should check it out, and if they don't feel like it's useful to them, then cool. But there's no reason to stick your fingers in your ears and "la la la la I can't hear you AI doesn't exist!"
Echterspieler@reddit
What is there to learning how to use chat gpt? You just talk to it and can ask it anything.
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
Sure. 👍
_MadGasser@reddit
The refusal to learn anything new and the fact that it seems like a lot of people on this sub forgot what it was kike to be young. This is Boomer behavior. Whether they want to admit it or not.
mtron32@reddit
I’m just a late adopter, I got on MySpace Twitter and Facebook years after they became a thing and AI is no different. If there’s something it does that could benefit me, that’s when I’ll start using it.
I’m also in the arts so I already feel some type of way about it. The project I’m on was using AI for concepts and the results were quite stale. They finally hired an actual artist to do the concepts and the project now looks alive with character and flavor.
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
Absolutely. People see others using these tools for bad things and immediately write them off. See the jackass that responded to me first about AI art.
LazarusDark@reddit
It's all bad marketing and investor hype and consumer confusion.
We've had Siri/AI assistant/alexa on our iphones/androids/Google Homes/Amazon speakers/etc for a decade. Not to mention spell-check and grammar-check are AI that we had even before that. You are perfectly fine to not use ChatGPT, it could well collapse under its own weight in a couple years for all we know. Besides that, I deleted my Facebook in 2011, you can live without it just fine and still be completely connected to internet usage, same as you can live without ChatGPT just fine. We all ARE already using AI in multiple forms on our computers, phones, customer service chats, etc, etc, and will continue to do so whether we want to or not, unless you go live in the woods off-grid.
Anyone saying they refuse to learn ChatGPT is in no way a Luddite or Boomer-adjacent, it's just not necessary for anyone to learn or use ChatGPT directly and one of the main long-term goals of LLM is to bring natural language to AI so that average folks don't need to "learn" to use AI because no learning is necessary to use it. But if they say they refuse to use AI, they are simply fundamentally misunderstanding what AI even is and are unaware they are already using it in many forms.
moonbunnychan@reddit
It drives me crazy because it DOES remind me of the anti internet stuff I remember hearing and reading in the late 90s. A lot of this sub actually acts like the height of technology was 1999 and everything after sucks.
Future_Prompt1243@reddit
See my downvotes. People LOVE to think exactly what you just said. “Email and internet is useful but ai is not” ok bud.
AlienDelarge@reddit
This sub makes me view some of us exactly like boomers are portrayed.
FreshlyStarting79@reddit
I think it's the X'ers that will be the racist idiots. I identify more with the millennials on social issues. I identify with X'ers on movies and pop culture.
AlienDelarge@reddit
Maybe. Perhaps if you get pedantic enough about the definition of racism and ignore other forms of bigotry. From observation though, I wouldn't count on it. I've already had to ask my millenial wife to stop associating every negative but age appropriate behavior of our small children as being that of "privileged white men" and her friends all seem to do it too. If only there was something we as parents could do to help a four year old develop and grow.
Constant_Concert_936@reddit
Yeah….that’s going to be an issue for our gen over the next 40 years. Things like that, anyway.
We very well might be the last gen who struggles with the pronoun thing (generally speaking), waffling between wanting to respect people’s desires to be called what they want and…just, like…c’mon mannnnn (or lady, or them).
naamingebruik@reddit
It's not that hard my daughter's 2 bestvfriends are non binary though I think does identify as a girl again. And I tended to use the appropriate gender neutral pronouns correctly 90% of the time. Which was very much appreciated. The one or 2 times I'd slip up where always forgiven
Fairymask@reddit
Same here.
juniper3411@reddit
Agree. That’s why I love our little micro generation even though I technically am the very last year of gen x (and I’m November so really late gen x)
no1kn0wsm3@reddit
u/tandem545 TBH the older you get the less worried you are of offending people with your life experience.
RegressToTheMean@reddit
Fuck that. I'm 50 and as a general rule I live by the platinum rule. I treat others the way they want to be treated.
Older people who use this as an excuse have always been an asshole and know they feel like they have a socially accepted reason to do it.
The only people you should treat like shit are those who are (adjacent to) bigots, authoritarians, and fascists.
no1kn0wsm3@reddit
I'm a Filipino living in the Philippines. Lived in FL for about a year and traveled to the EU, JP, SEA and other parts of the US on business & leisure. Not some MAGA maniac who wants to deport TNTs.
Societal standards of what is P.C. changes over time based on where you are, who you are with and a multitudes of other factors.
What you perceive as the platinum in ABC city may be the bare minimum in XYZ town. While platinum is considered over the top in MNO island.
Instead I'd try to blend in with the standards of that community that I entered into rather than impose what I think is platinum.
If I find it so contrary then I go elsewhere I'm wanted.
This is why I refuse to visit many Middle Eastern states because their citizens rarely meet a Filipino who isn't a blue collar migrant worker. Within their culture they see us as slaves.
Is it a P.C. thing to say? No as it makes it look like I'm a bigot by calling non-whites as monsters! But our past President had to protect our migrant workers from cultural norms of Arabic nations.
Bibblegead1412@reddit
Seriously! Sometimes this sub feel Facebook-lite!!
Constant_Concert_936@reddit
I never get that sense from this sub. Then again, I’m not tapping in regularly
Separate-Succotash11@reddit
Ha! ‘74 here, you whipper snapper.
Ok_Researcher_9796@reddit
Hey, who you calling old? 😂
freneticboarder@reddit
Shhhh... ('76 here)
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
No need to hide it. The gate is supposed to be off the hinges and hidden from the keepers.
ErrantTaco@reddit
For a second I thought you meant you are 77 and I was like, “Oh, we have a lurker here.”
questions6486@reddit
Christ yes. There's so much hate and dismissal of current youth culture here, it's embarrassing.
Some of the folks here really need to "touch grass," as the kids say.
NoMembership2831@reddit
Ain't no generation ever gonna be worse than boomers.
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
Yup. The only way to avoid such labelling, is to keep up and not allow ourselves to be taken in by regressive rhetoric. There is folk wisdom that suggests people normally become more conservative as they age. Which perhaps makes some evolutionary sense when our older bodies wouldn't hold up to the risk taking of youth. But it isn't acceptable to let such thinking to dictate how others can live their lives when it has no impact on others.
So we can either remain vigilant of our own human tendencies and support the youth in trying to protect their ability to live here, or we tune in to conservative "news", tune out of reality, and descend into paranoia and hate. My vote is to support our kids.
Gorkymalorki@reddit
For me, boomers have the We got ours, so screw you younger generations, attitude. I don't think our generation will be like that because we did not have life handed to us on a silver platter.
yungrii@reddit
I'm a millennial that actually relates more to Gen X. So if we are just going off of reddit (at least a year or so ago), I hope that sub isn't where we are headed. Cranky, bigoted dorks.
upstatestruggler@reddit
You’re not wrong!
CGS_Web_Designs@reddit
Came here to say the same thing - every generation lives in a unique slice of time with its own challenges, and its own benefits. It’s simple to look outward and see where others have it easier than you, but it’s a different story to look inward and recognize what things made your slice in time easier.
YVRkeeper@reddit
According to my kids - yes!
PilotC150@reddit
Absolutely. Lots of boomer behavior around here. Usually pointing this out gets downvoted.
DirtRight9309@reddit
including this one lol
FreyaNvra@reddit
Of course not. Generation Y is the least narcissistic generation alive although unfortunately Gen X is also more helpful and casual. But they would also be older. Here's an idea: Just be equally casual and actually start giving people rides and go to people's house and shit like people are supposed to. In that case, then it would be impossible. Millennials, Gen Z, and Alpha all have narcissism available to complain about. Remove the one single trait of Generation Y that makes that possible, and eliminate that possibility. We also have more basic knowledge about computers then anyone younger, so.
Chicago_Dad_AF@reddit
The Gen X sub comes across as boomerific, so probably. I honestly cannot believe how many posts I see there about “today’s music” not being a good as “our music.” I just need someone to tell me half the posts there are a clever satire of the boomers.
LadyMRedd@reddit
I feel like every generation eventually hates the music of the younger kids. I find myself thinking things that make me feel so damn old.
But I feel like the frustration with boomers goes beyond the traditional young vs old. MAGA is basically a boomer central slogan that glorifies the “good old days,” even if the movement appeals to more than just boomers. Boomers are seen as this huge monolith that won’t retire and want to almost literally turn back time and decades of progress.
Seldarin@reddit
Yeah, but there's a difference between "I'm not into the music the kids are listening to now." and "The music I grew up listening to is better."
There are very very few new artists that I enjoy, but that's just because the newer music coming out doesn't appeal to me much. It's not worse, it's just not my thing.
Boomers (and a lot of the boomer-lite GenXers) have an attitude that what they grew up with is objectively better.
WillRikersHouseboy@reddit
I got tickets to bbno dollar sign or whatever the hell that is but I plan to be black out drunk the whole time
marbotty@reddit
Gen X voted for a particularly boomer-y presidential candidate at a rate higher than the boomers
TheConsoleGeek@reddit
Every generation hates the one before them and the one after them.
Of course it will continue.
WillRikersHouseboy@reddit
As a Xen, I like millennials and Gen X (always remembering that I baseline hate everyone) because we are them. That’s nice.
My feelings about Gen Z I keep in-house. But I hope they enjoy their sobriety and celibacy while they watch the downfall of society thru 30-second clips.
Oops I opened my mouth.
mack_dd@reddit
And also, the two generations before and after are the cool ones 🤣
invuvn@reddit
I don’t know about “hate,” but SIX SEVEN is definitely stupid
hasnt_been_your_day@reddit
Lol I've purposely avoided finding out exactly what six seven involves, because if it annoys the ever loving crap out of my eight year old, then I certainly don't need it in my brain.
invuvn@reddit
Even teachers dressed up as that for Halloween, but I have yet to find any explanation for it!
mtron32@reddit
I never understood that, I have love for my elders as well as the youngins on the come up. I never forgot what it was like to be young and didn’t want to grow into a troll in my older years
TheConsoleGeek@reddit
Me either.
I'm tired of hearing all the complaining and blaming of entire generations for the world’s problems.
Sodamyte@reddit
And now I have Mike and the Mechanics stuck in my head..
_DeathStarContractor@reddit
I know that I'm a prisoner To all my Father held so dear I know that I'm a hostage To all his hopes and fears I just wish I could have told him in the living years
se-dc@reddit
I love how this community enriches my limited pop culture knowledge. Cheers
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
You can listen as loud as you hear
Rower78@reddit
Hopefully we ingested less lead and won’t turn out quite so conspiracy theory prone.
iwasnotarobot@reddit
They’ll get us.
We’ll be “too savvy” for the stuff that worked on our parents. So they’ll invent new ones for us. We’re not actually prepared for how good AI / deef fake stuff is getting. We can see it coming, sorta, but it’s come way faster than any of us thinks.
WillRikersHouseboy@reddit
Meh. We are the ones who understand what something can be fake, and that stuff online is generally not real. I think our skepticism is what they are gonna be annoyed with.
Basic-Pair8908@reddit
I got so much microplastic in me i will prob outlast keith richards 🤣
BasvanS@reddit
Not lead. PFAS? Definitely.
4RealzReddit@reddit
Thats helping us avoid polyps by coating our colon. Nothing could go wrong there.
marrymejojo@reddit
We won't. It is more our vantage point with technology though and how information is spread. I think younger generations as well as older both more conspiracy prone. I may be biased though
PFAS_All_Star@reddit
Sure, you are very in tune with technology and how information is spread…..now. How bout in 20 years?
marrymejojo@reddit
I think I am at best "very in tune", more likely I am just in tune. My plan is to try and stay thay way for next 20 years I guess.
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
Studies say Gen X (65-80) had the most lead exposure.
ailish@reddit
ThinkySushi@reddit
...you know...lead being bad for you was considered a conspiracy theory for a long time...
PileofTerdFarts@reddit
We will be "old" and of course some group of 20 year olds will think we're "over the hill"
But I hope we can pass on some wisdom too (like boomers have done for us).
How to be emotionally tough and resillient. To grow up with confidence and self-assurance and not be a perpetually offended emotional infant.
How to appreciate good art and music and discard bubblegum mass-produced bullshit.
How to work HARD for what you have and be proud of achievement, while also being compassionate to the less fortunate.
How to stand up for yourselves. These are all areas where I feel our generation shines.
But yeah, we'll be 65 and yelling at clouds just like our parents. You cannot stop time.
klomz@reddit
You're already yelling at clouds, maga old guy.
PileofTerdFarts@reddit
"maga old guy".... You sound like a zoomer, what you doing in here?
YoshiandAims@reddit
Yeah. Generational views/wars so to speak have always been a thing.
lumbrefrio@reddit
More than anything, I always think about how we're going to be the last generation to really remember the 1900s. Not only to be born in the 1900s but able to remember specific events well and have feelings about those events. Just due to that, I think we might be spared some eye rolls hopefully.
Beyond that, I don't know. I think younger generations always rolls their eyes at older generations. I think one of the biggest differences for our generation is that I think we're going to have a lot more video and imagery of us being younger, which might help bridge that gap. I just didn't have as much of that with my boomer parents, so it's hard to feel that type of kinship with them.
Physical-Name4836@reddit
Remember when we were kids and some old man was like…the sixties were awesome, and not that’s us. With the 90s.
Constant_Concert_936@reddit
We even had a Woodstock 🤣
Physical-Name4836@reddit
Limp Bizkit crushed it that show and is still crushing it today.
Bighurt2335@reddit
This is a very cool take. Yes.
benjamin_noah@reddit
“The 1900s” refers to the years 1900-1909.
“The 20th Century” refers to the years 1900-1999.
Zucc@reddit
Yep, it's behavior just like this that will cause us to be treated just like the boomers are.
benjamin_noah@reddit
I’m cool with that.
invuvn@reddit
I’m…not sure if that really is true though. I mean, when someone says the 1800’s I definitely associate the whole century to it. Same with the 2000’s. If referring specifically to 2000-2009, isn’t there a different term? Twenty-aughts maybe?
benjamin_noah@reddit
https://grammarhow.com/decade-century-millennium
invuvn@reddit
I see you agree with me then. “Xx’s decade” refers to a span of 10 years, therefore by absolutely simple logic “xx00’s” must be different than 10 year span. Thanks for your confirmation.
benjamin_noah@reddit
1900-1909 is 10 years, you absolute banana. Counting must be hard.
(RIP George Carlin. You were right about the average person)
invuvn@reddit
Again I…don’t think you’re using the word “counting” correctly here.
forevasleep@reddit
You mfr /s
xnef1025@reddit
Nah, that's just ageless pedantic nerd shit that forgets that colloquialisms exist, not a generational quirk.
gracefularthur314@reddit
No, that's the 19 aughts the 1900s is the whole century, per the English language
On_my_last_spoon@reddit
This is one those needs to be said out loud things. The nineteen-hundreds refers to the whole century. The 19-aughts is 1900-1909
DHammer79@reddit
Not entirely true. "The 1900s" is just an alternative name for the 20th century in many places of the English speaking world.
lumbrefrio@reddit
It can refer to either time period. I'm fairly certain, due to context, you know to which time period I'm referring. I'm not certain why this reply from you was even needed.
z0mb0rg@reddit
Yes. And think about the lives of people born 100 years before us, 1880ish, and what they lived through. From the birth and mass adoption of electricity / lighting, railroads, cars, the first airplanes to commercial flights, from armies that still carried swords at their side to nuclear weapons, to humans landing on the moon.
Now imagine what we’ve already seen, and the tech already behind us. What we’ve already lived through. And consider the next 50 years. My god it’s unfathomable.
amindfulloffire@reddit
I agree with you but do think when it comes to the '90s, some of us could pull back on the nostalgia.
lumbrefrio@reddit
Haha, yeah, I'm not crazy nostalgic about anything from that time period other than maybe lack of social media (even though I'm aware I'm writing this on Reddit). Social media started out really cool, and in the past 5-10 years have come to realize how damaging it became to society. I quit FB a year ago, and it's been the best thing ever.
dance-9880@reddit
I have a book from my childhood that was written, translated and printed in the USSR. My first boyfriend came to Australia after the USSR dissolved. I think we are definitely the last with memories of the warsaw pact, iron curtain, east germany etc
CordeliaChase99@reddit
Personally, I do think Boomers are uniquely selfish. My parents were silent generation and my husband’s mother is a boomer, and the difference is honestly shocking. So yes, sometimes I did roll my eyes at my parents being behind the times, but overall their integrity and generosity and self-sacrificing was admirable. Can NOT say the same for the Boomers I know.
Amazing-Treat-8706@reddit
Yes and I think it’s already started. Boomer has become the word young people just use to describe the older generation. Because we’re in end stage capitalism it will keep being that those who come after are going to have a harder time than those go came before. As an elderly person in the future I will get a kick out of gen beta calling millennials and older generation z “boomer”.
JayEllGii@reddit
We certainly will be if we keep up the incredibly simplistic, lazy and often just embarrassingly hypocritical boomer bashing.
Boomer bashing — most of it, anyway — is completely vapid. While most of the issues with society it touches upon are very real, the targeted accusations and finger pointing are, more often than not, grossly misdirected. And again, incredibly hypocritical.
Instead of downvoting, which you’ve probably already done, you might want to ask me why I say this. It’d be refreshing.
Ecstatic_Lake_3281@reddit
I doubt. No one remembers Gen X, so I don't think they'll think of our sub-generation at all.
OrangeBlackMilk@reddit
that happens with every generation as they age...but I also think Boomers were outliers because their life circumstances were so much different from generations prior to them and following them
sjd208@reddit
There’s just so many of them and they won’t stop talking.
Amazing_Recording_31@reddit
And voting
Constant_Concert_936@reddit
And serving in office
hockey_chic@reddit
Retire!
crispyTacoTrain@reddit
It’s a real possibility some of us will retire before the boomers. In 10 years some of us will be 55ish and thinking about retiring. I could see some boomers in leadership positions hanging around until they’re dead.
dabeeman@reddit
*taking
Old-Maintenance-8301@reddit
But there are more millennials than boomers! Millennials are also a “catered to” generation in many ways
Ngl, I think that all of us hoping our kids and grandkids won’t see us as bigots who destroyed the planet and the internet and maybe democracy are deluded
canisdirusarctos@reddit
Yeah, they were the “me generation” because they were by far the largest and most catered-to generation to ever exist. Their mentality is related to this. All the things we got to do as kids were old and run down because it was left over from being built for the boomers. In fact, this was true for us at every stage of our lives - when the boomers got too old for each thing, it was neglected as it served Gen-X, then it got down to us as it was dying. In contrast, our kids have lived in a world ever more focused on adults with virtually no spaces for them, and it wasn’t because of us.
YoohooCthulhu@reddit
Don’t forget they were also the first generation to benefit from the postwar economic order, and therefore feel like it was handed down from time immemorial
natecoin23@reddit
And lead poisoning
Jbowen0020@reddit
Do we care?
supergooduser@reddit
God I fucking hope not. I'm just gonna try and young myself up and lean more into millennial than Gen-X which is already showing some troubling signs.
writeonscroopy@reddit
My Gen-X siblings are awful. They might as well be boomers. I’m sure I’ll yell at clouds, but I really hope I don’t become like them.
Groovychick1978@reddit
My sisters and I are all Gen X. But my older sister was born in 1971, and she is a whole other creature than my younger sister (1980), and I (1978.)
The older Gen Xers might as well be Boomers. They bought all the way in!
Elenakalis@reddit
My husband was born in 1972 and he's starting to really lean into being irritated at everything that doesn't fit how he thinks it should be.
Groovychick1978@reddit
I don't think I'll ever stop learning and adopting new things.
At least I hope not.
Elenakalis@reddit
Same. I work with with old people and the ones who are open to learning new things (whether new to them or new technology) seem to be happier and take fewer pills compared to my residents who grumble about all technology newer than color tvs, record players, and typewriters.
I work in memory care and i have a few residents who will cheerfully embrace new things, whether it's new music or technology. They might "learn" the same new thing day after day, but they all tend to be staff favorites because they are absolutely delighted about whatever it was they learned and can't wait to show the other staff. I have one who just got an Alexa for her birthday, and her family put laminated instructions on how to use it. She only rings her call bell to show us how Alexa knows all her favorite songs AND the weather forecast and she is just overjoyed to share that with us.
Groovychick1978@reddit
I love this. 🩵🩵 Thank you for sharing.
nodogsallowed23@reddit
It’s so true. A lot of Gen x and millennial culture collides, but there are some things that are very different and this is one of them.
fallingfrog@reddit
Older gen x is worse than the boomers if anything. They got more lead poisoning. I remember how those kids behaved as teenagers- they haven't changed.
lsp2005@reddit
Older gen x (Jones) are the people that I think have completely jumped the shark.
PotentialPlum4945@reddit
I don't really care what young people might think of me in twenty years. I'll still be able to read, do times tables in my head, and have a level of focus they'll never be able to understand. Btw, I'm a teacher. This younger generation is absolutely fucked.
rttnmnna@reddit
Somewhat, I'm sure. Hopefully not nearly as much, due in part to lower levels of lead poisoning in our generation.
Tzunamitom@reddit
I used to think so, but recently things seem like they’re going backwards
tandem545@reddit (OP)
Interesting thought. Will generation beta go more religious/ conservative and traditional than millennials? Will WE be rolling our eyes at THEM?
mack_dd@reddit
My prediction, they'll grow more "conservative", but not more relgious. It will be a different brand of conservatism.
punkopops@reddit
It will Happen with every generation. The younger ones think they know everything and the old ones were dumb. The circle of life.
mack_dd@reddit
Fair or not, I think we'll be preceived for our virtue signalling / performative outrage. Ie, the "bluehair" sterotype that the boomers had of us, the gen-alphas might end up agreeing with it.
It could be a horseshoe theory type of deal.
funatical@reddit
Some of us will. I like to think most of us will carry on with our smartassery and snark and be appreciated for our culture.
PopularSet4776@reddit
Yes it seems like every older generation grows up and complains about young people issuing the same complaints that everyone used to say about them.
I find it crazy that more people don't see this and just stop.
Typical-Human-Thing@reddit
Maybe? On the one hand: We're the last bit of those who grew up with an analog childhood. We do collectively talk about How It Used To Be a lot.
On the other hand: we're more open minded and adaptable than the boomers are. We listened when people said things weren't ok and when we got online we actually heard the voices of people from groups we might not encounter every day.
Only time will tell I guess.
ThatGuyInThePlace@reddit
They already do.
mspennylane77@reddit
Yes.
CaptShrek13@reddit
I'm already getting "you sound like my dad" from some of my younger coworkers. It's going to be less than 20 years from now.
Hollow_Door@reddit
Jim Jefferies has a thought on this question: https://youtube.com/shorts/fQt1mUiDkXQ?si=4K7DMAwRVpvDLb-b
Requilem@reddit
Yes, many gen x, Xennials and millennials act as entitled as boomers.
madogvelkor@reddit
"Boomer" will probably become slang for any person over 40 that young people disagree with and/or see as unfashionable. They're already calling Gen X "Boomers".
darkiya@reddit
Yes.
Especially among those in higher pay positions. I have talked to some people of my generation or a little older Gen X who have very problematic views completely out of touch
RainerGerhard@reddit
Historian here!
No, because the world and the way it works is literally untenable, and this cannot keep going as it has been the last 75 or so years.
In 20 years, we will not hear “I can’t afford things because of you” because the social and financial mechanics will look completely different.
This is not a political post: I have no clue who or which side will tear it all down and start anew, but if it doesn’t happen: it will be the very first example of it not happening in ALL OF HISTORY.
So, there is that.
_meestir_@reddit
We already are boomer
Scott_R_1701@reddit
Yes but for different reasons.
I think Xers, Xennials and most millennials grew up at least somewhat not terminally online.
There are a lot of Z and a LOT of A that are going to have very... Unrealistic life expectations...
TwistingEcho@reddit
That's up to us.
AdZealousideal5383@reddit
I feel like one of the defining characteristics of millennials is to try to be accepting of people and that means making an effort to say the right things. Millennials do tend to say things ironically… not sure if the next generations will have the same sarcastic attitude so that might get us in trouble… but I don’t think millennials will run into the same problem boomers have. If anything, it looks like it could be the opposite… Gen Z could be the more conservative and we’ll be annoyed at them for being politically incorrect.
Xx_SwordWords_xX@reddit
No.
Their parents weren't as insufferable as them.
And they were insufferable in middle-age (it's not about being old).
Charming_Ad1688@reddit
I don’t think so, at least to the degree the boomers get it. They get more crap because they came out on top and the later generations won’t live how they lived, by no fault of our own.
Tamuzz@reddit
A lot of the current bad will towards boomers came from their politics such as support of brexit in the UK.
I never really heard much derision towards them before that.
I don't know if there was a similar tipping point in america, but I here similar comments about selfishness and pulling up the drawbridge behind them.
If we selfishly screw over younger generations we will be disliked by them. Simple as that.
-Brian-V-@reddit
Of course.
Cali_Anne@reddit
Millennials will be the boomers, not xennials.
NopeYupWhat@reddit
Only the ones that turn into old racist close minded shitheads. My boomer mom’s cool. I don’t talk to the boomer father.
Spamberguesa@reddit
As my 70-year-old mom puts it, Boomer is a state of mind. She's lost a lot of friends over the years, as they started really drinking the Boomer Kool-Aid and just turned into their parents, but with smartphones and a Fox News addiction. She says it's been like slowly watching them be replaced by Pod People.
jncheese@reddit
They don't know.whonwe are now. The only thing that will.be remembered is our awesome music.
drawredraw@reddit
We already are
fallingfrog@reddit
We already are. Sorry it is what it is.
SlackerDS5@reddit
Some of yall are already there. Premature boomer is no laughing matter. But I see so many are suffering from it already. Let someone mention AI, or apps, smart technologies. I’m probably getting downvoted for saying it. But facts are facts.
MaestroLogical@reddit
That's already happening. Gen A lump everyone over 30 into the 'boomer' category.
ApatheistHeretic@reddit
People think we're boomers now!
pdx_via_dtw@reddit
unfortunately, I think it's inevitable for us and them when they time comes.
AllyBeetle@reddit
No!
But we won't care if they do!
Tree_Weasel@reddit
A little. We’ll talk about the times before the internet took over everything with a certain nostalgia. But we don’t ruin the economy, and aren’t gate keeping success from the younger generation. So it’s give a take.
three-one-seven@reddit
The way things are going they’ll probably roll their eyes at us for caring about human rights and thinking men and women are equals.
Ok_Yesterday_2884@reddit
In 20 years I hope to be dead
rojoshow13@reddit
What's all this WE talk? I'm going to be perceived as an absolute legend.
jojotherider@reddit
Future legends gang checking in
GalaxyRedRanger@reddit
20 years? Lol. Try 5.
Salty_Worth9494@reddit
Absolutely. In fact, it's already happening
Unpainted-Fruit-Log@reddit
Nah but I do think we were the last generation to have the privilege to f around in life before needing to get serious, which not even true millennials had. Gen Z has so little space to mess up and I see that as being a possible bone of contention.
chezterr@reddit
Not even close
MorddSith187@reddit
As long as we never start being assholes to service workers we should be in the clear. i think the majority of hate towards us is just us being cringy or old fashioned. at least its not about publicly humiliating and abusing service workers.
like_shae_buttah@reddit
Home owners will as the gulf between owners and renters continues its absurd divergence. If we as a generation refuse to put our personal benefit over the benefits of society at large, then we wouldn’t.
Danny-Wah@reddit
Yep and so on and so on..
Soggy_Porpoise@reddit
Some of you already are.
heyokaj@reddit
As they say, "History doesn't repeat, it rhymes." We've lived through everything from dial up to AI so we grasp the impermanence and vulnerability of it all. We are a pretty cynical bunch so yeah, maybe we get the crotchety label. But there is no way we are coming off that bad in the history books. I mean, we would have to royally fuck up at the finish line and I just don't think we have it in us. Most of us barely care. Kinda like, "eh... Whatever."
TanukiSuitMario@reddit
the world will be so completely different in 20 years, there's no telling how anyone will perceive anything
SlaverSlave@reddit
I don't think so. Biggest problem I see with the older generations is an unwillingness to admit that they're wrong. Meanwhile, with all of what i've known being contradicted every day, I feel confident that I'll feel ok being corrected by my younger relatives in 40 years.
GotRocksinmePockets@reddit
I mean it's only logical. I'll argue forever if I think I'm right, but if someone proves I'm wrong I'll give in to evidence.
Morriganx3@reddit
I agree. If I start getting rigid, my son will absolutely call me the fuck out on it. He’s smart and well informed and I trust him completely, so, if he does, I’ll listen
jesssongbird@reddit
I think the boomers also don’t have that kind of language or self awareness to describe behavior as rigid. Younger people are more likely to have the skills, language, and willingness to think about these concepts.
Important_silence@reddit
My son and daughter are aware of Boomer like behavior and they know to check me IF I start exhibiting it.
C001H4ndPuk3@reddit
Yeah, my kids are welcome to take over decisions whenever they're ready. Seriously...you wanna be in charge? Be my guest! I'm not gonna cling to power like the Boomers.
slagnard@reddit
No one knows who we are.
Historical-Mix3860@reddit
Of course! Each generation imagines that they have everything figured out and ALL that's wrong in the world is caused by the previous generations.
SquatnastyMcPoot@reddit
Its inevitable.
RupeThereItIs@reddit
Wait, isn't everyone over 40 already being labeled "Boomer" by kids these days?
We don't have to wait 20 years.
Dimplefrom-YA@reddit
yup
Top_Yellow8393@reddit
Absolutely! I have teenagers and I already feel like I’m on the verge of being an old geezer.
sodajerk6969@reddit
I think it depends on what we do with the reins of power once we have them. If we do things like the Silent and Greatest generations then we stand a chance of not being held in the poor regard that the Boomers and increasingly Gen X are seen. If we lift people up and work to actually improve society rather than just enrich ourselves I think we’ll be viewed well. Millennials and Gen Z are now the largest voting block in the country, we need to now exercise that power for bold action to actually fix the rot at the foundations of our government. If we want to be viewed well by future generations that’s what we need to do.
Browniesmobetta@reddit
Yes
Amazing_Recording_31@reddit
As long as we stay open minded, don’t stay working past our prime, and become too materialistic, we’ll not turn out like our parent’s generation
DarkAngela12@reddit
I'm genuinely worried about that second one. I don't think Social Security (US) will be there for us when we retire, so I think a lot of us will end up working until we die.
Amazing_Recording_31@reddit
Oh yea, and vote for people younger than us, once we don’t have to vote for boomers anymore
bat_in_the_stacks@reddit
Already happening with the NYC mayor: he just turned 34.
Swimminginthestorm@reddit
I have a feeling I’m going to have to stay working till far past my prime. Not by choice, though. My retirement fund is nothing, social security isn’t looking great for us, and I’m not sure what government aid will be available when I’m older.
tMoneyMoney@reddit
Even though we still had to deal with a lot of pain, we’re going to get shit for not having to grow up with social media, ridiculously expensive college with crazy low admission rates, finding entry level jobs relatively easy, and having parents with Boomer money and assets.
iDoNotHaveAnIQ@reddit
Yes. Those boomers were once the 70s hippies, the same hippies that was progressive.
I also noticed a trend, the older a person get, the more conservative they become.
Based on that trend, I assume it will be the same for each generation.
Aggravating_Finish_6@reddit
The most important thing is to keep learning new things and be adaptable. I think Xennials have consistently shown that we are the most adaptable as technology has changed so much since we were kids.
Then again, ever generation probably thinks they won’t end up like their parents and in the end they all do.
Iknownothing0321@reddit
Whatever, i dont care
Potential_Shelter624@reddit
Nah, Our kids & the next generations didn’t watch us buy homes for 50¢ after our 25¢ college degrees, lol. Boomers are in a league of their own
holtyrd@reddit
20 years? Get off my lawn!
sjd208@reddit
Flip side of What’s the matter with kids today? (featuring a very young Dick Van Dyke)
se-dc@reddit
Nice. Mid 20th century humor comes off more muted without a laugh track. Thanks for teaching me the source material behind a Simpsons song
sjd208@reddit
Nice, hadn’t seen that one. Off topic but the podcast Decoder Ring had an episode on the “laff box”, fascinating stuff (as are pretty much all episodes).
Character_Pop_6628@reddit
Yes
bewildured3@reddit
No, today boomers hold a good percentage of wealth but in 20 years the billionaires will hold even more wealth so millennials will not have that level of wealth. Eat the rich.
ringobob@reddit
Gen Z are the new boomers. Different ideology, different circumstance, similar attitude.
But yeah, there's a bit of what we now call "boomer" that is really just aging. So, there'll be a bit of that, mixed with our general attitude. And, obviously, generations aren't a complete monolith. No doubt a few of us got our personalities from our parents.
1block@reddit
For sure. But it will be the younger generation's fault for being so damned wrong, in our eyes. Totally different situation.
Consistent-Ad-6506@reddit
Well a bunch of us will be annoying due to cognitive decline, so probably
Old_Size9060@reddit
It’s already happened. When young people complain about “boomers,” they’re rarely thinking about sweet old grandma and grandpa - it’s Gen X and it has been for a while now. As a Gen Xer, I’ve gotten a kick out of seeing my peers labelled “boomer” a few times in person. “When the shoe fits,” as they say.
No_School765@reddit
I don’t think we’ll be perceived by anybody…
LoneShark81@reddit
Nah, as an elder millennial I find myself wondering why is it so hard for boomers to just be respectful. Don't be racist, don't be sexist, don't be homophobic and call trans-people by what they want to be called (name/gender they choose). It's literally not difficult. And if you mess up, just own it and apologize and do the work to do better. But I see do many boomers unwilling to do any of this, I REFUSE to be like that i get older
mcjon77@reddit
Absolutely, and it's already happening. Half the time when you hear about gen Z blaming some Boomer for something bad in their life, the person is actually an older Gen X. This makes sense because most gen Z folks have Gen X parents or very young boomer parents.
Corn_Beefies@reddit
Do you think our great grandparents were mad at their Civil War ass pension collection parents? Probably
RetroDadOnReddit@reddit
I think this already has been happening for quite a while tbh
XPav@reddit
Yes. Do better.
Puzzleheaded_Car6307@reddit
I think 20 years is a stretch
nochumplovesucka__@reddit
Well, if you look at the Gen X sub, its very boomerish sometimes.
I mean, xennials are my people, and being born in 77, I definitely feel more on the X side of things in our microgeneration. But I lurk that sub, and while its not awful, it can be cringe sometimes.
I hope xennials or millenials dont turn out like that. It feels like an inevitable path sometimes. And nostalgia is definitely intoxicating in its own weird way.
TopProfessional8023@reddit
Yes. It’s a tale as old as time.
stoudman@reddit
Some already do perceive us that way.
Whenever I try to warn youngins that there's a very likely massive economic collapse headed our way, and AI is the bubble that will burst that causes it, I'm told "you sound like a boomer." I think they think I'm just "afraid of technology," but obviously my concerns have nothing to do with the technology. Before I was aware of how much energy it uses, I was using AI myself, and I'm actually pretty familiar with it and not "afraid" of it.
But none of that matters.
Pointing out how the economics surrounding AI are fucked is, to the younger generation, roughly equal to being a boomer who is afraid of new technology.
Thankfully, my Gen Z nieces and nephews still like me quite a bit, and they don't consider me a boomer. It's not an across the board thing, the "boomer" take.
Humblebrag1987@reddit
My liberal and progressive parents in their 70s are as brain rotted and narcissistic, outrage addicted, superiority complex, etc as the most absurd conservative maga folks. They're successful ladder pullers. They covet my success, count my money, deny their ages are slowing them down and dulling their edges, etc.
It's been a rapid and very sad, IMHO willful decline. It went from a fabulous relationship my whole life, dedicated to them in the extreme, to now I'm the source of all of their problems and a real villain.
It all began when they got me to sell my house to move near them with our first baby. They have basically discarded us entirely.
On the other hand. A baby boomer reports to me at work. My senior database admin, an excel sorceress. My Aunt is the sharpest tool in any shed and the most empathetic altruistic person I've ever encountered.
All this is to say, it's a decision to decline the way baby boomers have. It's not lead. It's not anything except willful ignorance and main lining a philosophy of American exceptionalism into their veins for 65+ years.
Jin-roh@reddit
Do you think that we, who have most disregarded American Exceptionalism, will make the choice not to decline with age, as you put it?
Humblebrag1987@reddit
I think we may lack the presumption that we're inherently the best and deserve decadent lifestyles, which will likely correlate to less 'decline.' IDK I'm no anthropologist just a guy trying to make a decent life for his family that isn't riding on a bleeding edge between overconsumption and absolute disaster.
Bogusky@reddit
Worse. Boomers at least have something that can be perceived as accomplishments. Reddit may honor victimhood, but history doesn't.
LazarusDark@reddit
Probably. But it's the loudest part that gets the attention. We all know the George Carlin quote, think of the average intelligence and understand that half of the population is below that. Those people also get more attention for the dumb things they say and do. Know what doesn't get attention? The upper half of the population that acts normal, is kind to their neighbors, goes to work and goes about their lives. I can guarantee you, this is the case right now with boomers, half of them are just normal folks doing normal stuff, there just isn't anything to talk about so you don't hear about them, they don't stand out.
You get the same with "the kids these days", you just aren't noticing or hearing about the half that are doing fine.
And in 20 years, half of our Gen will be a buncha milleni-boomers or whatever, while half of us continue to go about our lives as normal and no one is talking about us, because we aren't interesting (or infuriating).
Gamestonkape@reddit
By whom? The robots will have ended humanity by then.
FlyDifficult6358@reddit
Older Gen X? Yes. The younger Gen X? Probably not.
Longjumping_Ice_3531@reddit
Yes. My niece and nephew at thanksgiving have shown that’s absolutely the case.
Sighlina@reddit
I don’t think we’ll leave this world better than we found it. It hurts, when I had such a different expectation going into this. We as a generation did not hold us to a higher standard. Disappointing…
Far_Swordfish5729@reddit
Of course. Everyone becomes more conservative as they age because the world moves forward around them. Our adult kids will roll their eyes at us for breaking social norms that did not exist when we were learning social norms.
What will change is what we talk about. Boomers were born at a unique time when the rest of the developed world had either just destroyed itself or was actively stagnating itself. They were the only advanced industrial show in town. Their lives were dramatically better. Their country was ascendant. They could do anything. They children grew up in a more normal world where they were not better off and understood just how easy it was to backslide. We won’t be as naive when we’re old.
angrybirdseller@reddit
Yeah, society will look completely different abd feel different.
tastysharts@reddit
no we won't have as much money
andiinAms@reddit
Most likely.
Careful-Use-4913@reddit
We already are…
PlaneAd8667@reddit
Not as bad, no. Although, I do think each future generation will be perceived as somewhat out of touch and possibly even sometimes offensive (even unintentionally), in language for instance. I think of things that I grew up with (born in '79) like sitting Indian style and stuff like that. We're just different than boomers in that we can adapt and adjust to changing times. Sorry, got off on a tangent. No, not really, but kind of... final answer.
TheVelcroStrap@reddit
A few hundred years from now, people will condense us in with Boomers.
gowithflow192@reddit
We are a very narrow age band of society. I think they will take out the boomer hate on us when we reach old age and strip us of benefits.
Stunning_Radio3160@reddit
Yes
The_Lloyd_Dobler@reddit
No, the robots will have taken over by then so I don’t think we need to worry about that.
sinchsw@reddit
No. Boomers are the soft generation. They grew up with the most privilege of any generation in history
Konnorwolf@reddit
I've been curious how we will be seen in the future and a lot of what we like now may not change a whole lot.
PickleFlavordPopcorn@reddit
I love that people are still naive enough to think that this is a phenomenon that just happened to one generation and isn’t something that people have been saying about each other since time began. There are literally ancient Sumerian tablets complaining about “kids these days” and everyone throughout history has thought great uncle Frank was cringe and offensive
pmmlordraven@reddit
I think it's too inefficient and not quite prime time ready for full deployment. I'm in IT/Utility sector and it is wrong quite often in niche fields. The other issue is the human issue, just implicitly trusting it. We've canned an intern and a new hire who have made repeates errors with AI and doubles down on it must be correct and everyone else must be wrong. To the tune of a few thousand in damaged specialty metering and Comms equipment.
ooo-ooo-oooyea@reddit
I think we'll be waaaaaay worst. Hear me out:
The people our age I know who have the boomer mentality have one big difference. They have no shame. These are the Eric Cartman types. I know some, and they should be feared.
Thamnophis660@reddit
Yes. Probably.
RonWill79@reddit
A lot of people already think we ARE boomers, so there’s that. It’ll only get worse as we get older.
SecretSquirrelType@reddit
Gen X is already proving to be better people than their boomer parents. Millennials are too busy trying to survive economically to really demonstrate who they are.
Gen Z is already demonstrating to be among the most level headed, caring generation of them all. They are more open minded, less materialistic and more accepting of people who are different than them than any generation before them.
physical0@reddit
I don't think there will ever be a generation that can keep up with the cultural momentum long enough to remain current their entire life.
lingonberry_fairy@reddit
Yes
-discostu-@reddit
I’m sure it will be something like “back in my day we didn’t have throuple weddings with robots!” and our grandkids will be like “omg you’re so cringe”
Pygmy_Nuthatch@reddit
Significantly sadder.
Millennials will have a tiny fraction of the wealth of Baby Boomers. Many of us will be looking down the barrel of old age, no money, no government support, and no kids.
Adventurous_Pin_344@reddit
In some ways, yes. However, I think we have a higher level of self-awareness than the Boomers (probably due to the fact that we love therapy and want to improve.) I also think the Boomers drink heavily, and while there are some of us who still drink a lot, I think we often have a different relationship with alcohol.
Maybe this isn't universally true, but at least for me it is. I just got back from a Thanksgiving redux gathering with my Boomer mother and her Boomer cousins, and that was the case.
mechanical_marten@reddit
Calling us cringe for the things we like is a fate I have accepted. Being equally regressive about social norms? I hope the fuck not..
Relative-Gas-1721@reddit
No - the millennials will be the boomers and we will just be old.
ALT3NPFL3G3R@reddit
Every old generation is, always. Even if Boomers call all the generations after them Millennials...
mr_radio_guy@reddit
I think we already are
Do_it_My_Way-79@reddit
Aren’t we already being lumped in with Boomers?
WilliamMcCarty@reddit
They already do. And eventually their children will view them the same way. Just wish I could be there to laigh at them when it happens.
Dickrubin14094@reddit
I’m pretty sure the younger generations already feel that way about us
ElectricPenguin6712@reddit
It's inevitable. Look at the Gen X sub. We may have had less lead exposure so it might take a few extra years, but it'll happen. Social media will be the main driver for us
On_my_last_spoon@reddit
Dude I’ve already gotten young people to stare blankly at me after I said a lame joke and I never felt so alive!
Embrace it my friend!
Spartan04@reddit
Agreed. I honestly don’t care if younger people think I’m lame, I’ve never been one of the “cool kids” anyway. The younger generation is free to think whatever they want about me.
cbz3000@reddit
Absolutely. Gen Xers as a whole are already bring lumped in with Boomers, and a lot of the are exhibiting boomer behavior
spf57@reddit
My kids already make fun of listening to “old music” like classic hip hop so yea…they already do.
JuicyCactus85@reddit
I tell my kids if I start acting like my mom or stepdad to tell me right away. Id rather die than end up like them
Important_silence@reddit
Same!
WheelOfFish@reddit
I know boomers that aren't like that and I'd like to think I won't turn regressive.
autocosm@reddit
Instead of work ethic or starting a family, it will be over pop culture and media.
1920MCMLibrarian@reddit
I think Millennials will be, some Xennials will be
bussysniffer3000@reddit
Yes it happens every generation
ouijahead@reddit
Yes. What if the youth all become complete fascists and see us as deranged anti fascist who just don't understand. We will have our faces in our hands and they will think we are clueless morons.
Accomplished_Job6927@reddit
No, unless your beliefs are dictated by a far right cult leader or fox news
ferropop@reddit
It's absolutely already a thing lol. Engaging in conversations about the Gen Z stare is the gateway drug, and we're in a hotbox.
TexasRN1@reddit
I refuse.
YogurtclosetDull2380@reddit
I'm like that with the gen xers right now.
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
1980 is genx
wantagh@reddit
Quiet you
YogurtclosetDull2380@reddit
Nah.
atom644@reddit
Get off my lawn.
geezorious@reddit
People are envious of the boomers being rich and successful. I don’t think Gen X has to worry about that happening to them.
DHard1999@reddit
Hell I hope we have the money
Electrical-Dig8570@reddit
“There is no fate but for what we make for ourselves.”
I like the younger generations. I hope that we’re seen as the folks who walked so they could run.
pit_of_despair666@reddit
We already are. Kids consider us all boomers.
sbotzek@reddit
I stopped caring about how other random people perceive me in high school.
Shangri-lulu@reddit
I’m an almost 40 year old who’s gone back to school for a nursing degree. The only Zoomer in my section loves me because apparently I remind her of her mom. This makes me feel like things will be okay? 😂
GasStationChicken-@reddit
I’m not like other moms, I’m a cool mom.
ZealousidealDog4802@reddit
How could we? We don't really even exist. The perception of being the cause of all problems and the root of all evil will skip over us and rightfully attach itself to millennials.
SavageObjector@reddit
Depends if we become incredibly selfish as a generation.
I think we are far too aware of the world to be racist as a whole, and if we live with the understanding we are borrowing the world from our descendants, we will be just fine. If we ignore the world that comes after us, yes.
NBKiller69@reddit
I'm of the opinion that's one of those things that is circular: Every generation will blame previous ones for the choices they made, and for whatever the state of the world is for each new generation.
80cartoonyall@reddit
They don't know we exist, they'll skip us and go right to millennials.
ObiWan-Shinoobi@reddit
They already do roll their eyes. I say politically incorrect shit all the time and it just comes from my upbringing in the 80’s and 90’s. I mean no harm. I just never underestimate the power of the handicapped. Up up and awaaay
TheFoxandTheSandor@reddit
We didn’t destroy the planet or the housing market, or well… like everything they touched like they did, so I hope not.
StevieV61080@reddit
If the younger folks turn into Andrew Tate/Paul Bros/Musk fanboys, yeah, I'll be the "weird progressive uncle".
JoisChaoticWhatever@reddit
Absolutely.
Turbulent-Pea-8826@reddit
Young people use boomer for anyone old. They already see us as boomers.
Inevitable-While-577@reddit
In 20 years? We'll be around 40, so I'm not sure...
amindfulloffire@reddit
Of course. We're currently being catered to as far as pop culture goes, like the Boomers and (to a lesser extent) Gen X before us, but even that'll end. Try as we might to keep up with cultural/social things, we'll eventually be left behind.
BombedShaun@reddit
Natural cycle of things. Younger kids will have a language and technology we won’t understand and we will get frustrated because we are from a generation that had our own language and technology are parents didn’t understand.
OneToothMcGee@reddit
In twenty years we will be 65-60. Where about 15 years off from where the boomers really started their excess damage. We’d be around the same time as the boomers were in 2003.
Verbull710@reddit
We'll all (in general) still be working and won't have the "I bought my house for a dollah twenny five and now it's worth one point twenty one jigadollars, i don't see what is so difficult for you young people" type attitude, at least
FoppyRETURNS@reddit
Gen Z will be perceived as Boomers one day.
EmmalouEsq@reddit
No. I think the Boomers came along at a very unique time in history. They were raised in unprecedented prosperity and coasted through life on that. They're the original me, me, me generation. They are terrible politically because nothing has really affected them negatively since Vietnam and can't understand how the rest of us actually survive day to day.
Xennials have lived through shit and I'm sure we're about to live through more. By the time we're in our 60s, we'll just be over it. Families will be surprised if we even show up for holidays.
Maybe that's just me. I don't plan to put up with any people that harsh my good mood and I'd rather be buzzed and doing what I want than spend any time with people I don't enjoy being around now or in the future
Hipcatjack@reddit
no. heres the difference. Baby Boomers took control of the governments and companies (basically all the power in our society) in the mid to late 1970’s… they REMAIN in the most powerful positions 50 (FIFTY!!!) years later. The sheer lost potential of our generation not getting mid level postions in the early 2000’s will collectively stifle our career trajectory permanently.
imagine a world where the Baby Boomers did what their parent’s generation did.. handed off power and the decision making to US in the 2010’s. no more Debrahs typing with two fingers at doctors offices; the Roberts not selling their company’s/world future because he no longer cares what will happen to it… Linda’s retiring early to help raise her grandkids instead of preventing someone else from filling her place. The younger than us generation is on the whole, way less computer savvy than we are ; simply because computer and phone makers have dumbed down the UI “so that grandma karen can use it” that kids today rely more on..but understand less the technology than their parents.
There are objectively major issues with the generation that remembers woodstock/kennedys being shot that go way, way beyond the “hah old timers are old fashion and out of touch”
Bushwazi@reddit
Hell yes.
FreeTicket6143@reddit
Nah these gen z kids with their long socks, ugly glasses and smoking cigarettes while not having sex are the next boomers in 40yrs.
They will just say ok boomer to every ild person like mindless idiots till they are old and in fact the boomers they always talked about hating the whole time.
buppiejc@reddit
When Boomers were coming of age Segregation was legal, so was asbestos in construction materials, and lead in gasoline, so no, I think we’ll be much more tolerable.
Diesel07012012@reddit
I am fairly confident that my 13 year old will not perceive me the same way I perceive my parents. And that’s really all I can do.
Groovychick1978@reddit
I was just talking to someone about this today.
No, I don't think so. Not many of us.
The ones who are going to "Boomer out" are already there. They were there in high school.
The rest of us are going to sport Chucks 'till death, wearing graphic tees, circling in the parking lot with the windows down and the system up.
SnorkBorkGnork@reddit
Several years ago some kids in my neighborhood walked up to me and politely asked me if I knew what the Super NES was and who Super Mario was, so I started explaining and told them how I was raised with the NES, and while I was doing that they burst out laughing, yelled "OK BOOMER" and ran off. 🫠
We are already old.
bat_in_the_stacks@reddit
Like Captain Planet said, "the power is yours"😀
Older people will always get eye rolls from younger people, but it doesn't have to be for being politically incorrect, offensive, or intellectually lazy. We have to keep up with the actual plights of people in the world and the latest sensible thinking on how to address those problems and interact with people.
Sal_Paradise81@reddit
Depends on who’s doing the perceiving, but also yup. 100%.
Flashy-Carpenter7760@reddit
Yes. Absolutely
murph0969@reddit
Same as it ever was.
Pantstrovich@reddit
Probably somewhat, but I would hope that most of us would take it a lot better when being told off, and actually do our best to be better, unlike whatever the hell boomers are usually doing. Acting like toddlers with power, I guess.
bikeonychus@reddit
Well, the last 10 years has been me and my husband watching his much older GenX brother speed run the 'ok person - to - total pearl-clutching you-cant-say-happy-christmas boomer' pipeline. So as much as I hope we are not, I fear we may.
ailish@reddit
Probably. Hopefully not as selfish and entitled, but we'll be just and clueless and out of touch.
DustedGorilla82@reddit
Hell no!
Lastofthehaters@reddit
💯
mickeltee@reddit
No way. People don’t really know that we exist. We’re the forgotten ones. I prefer it that way.
middlepathways@reddit
For sure. That's my first thought when imagining humanity and myself, with AI, and with both virtual/augmented reality in the next twenty years. So many more weird and unknown technologies are coming in those areas...
I heard a couple neighbor kids playing on Thanksgiving. One of them said twice, "I have the power of ChatGPT!" It was interesting to consider, how younger generations see things. "By the power of Greyskull!" Haha
I'm imagining that a lot of us will be seen as boomers in the future, with another new creative term...
DirtRight9309@reddit
um you may already be there 😬
H3lls_B3ll3@reddit
We already are. Whatever.
TheWorldIsNotOkay@reddit
No one remembers Gen Xers, much less us. Every time people talk about generations they skip straight over two decades from Boomers to Millennials.
I think in 20 years all of society will be divided into Boomers, Millennials, and Zoomers, like the Morloks and Eloi from The Time Machine, without any concept of what those terms originally meant. It's 67 and 23 skidoo all the way down.
MotherofaPickle@reddit
We already are?
Apparently both Boomers and GenZ blame us for literally everything. Meanwhile, we’re just trying to pay the mortgage and affford a new car AND/OR a semi-decent summer vacation with the kids.
I also keep telling my (identifying as GenX, but thinks like a Boomer) husband that we shouldn’t invest all of our money in stocks, in case, you know, the economy collapses. I am well-equipped for if the country goes all MadMax. He will most likely die (dependent on medication). But does he listen to me to buy land and gold? No.
msheehan418@reddit
Probably. There was a time when they were called “Baby Boomers” and they were cool and hated on the older generation
the_kid1234@reddit
Yes. 95% of everything is actually just age related and has nothing to do with generations. That is something I love about this sub is that the little things that are unique to us come up all the time in this sub.
Some old people hated the lazy hippies
Some old people hated the lazy GenX
Some old people hated the lazy Millenials
Some old people hate the lazy Gen Z
Everyone always hates the old retired people with all the money that vote to keep their money.
dance-9880@reddit
I've always been uncool, but nice. Hoping to stay that way.
wastey_face@reddit
Ankle socks. It’s already started
False_Impression8767@reddit
We already are
lexluthor_i_am@reddit
Fuck yes! But at least we'll be old people who can destroy on Xbox, put down shots of tequila and talk about how we remember life before screens and iPhones. "Back in the day, when I was a kid, we had to actually go the store to buy things! And talk to people! Imagine that? And robots didn't clean our houses, we had to clean them ourselves!" Then they'd shout "shut up old man millennial! Alexa, take grandpa back to his house and don't let him choose music in the car."
weepinwilo@reddit
i have bad news for you. we already are.
SyllabubWeak@reddit
I have seen enough friends turn that corner and they are essentially boomer-lite now. And those people tend to be the loudest, so we will all be associated with it.
Caftancatfan@reddit
Those fucking millennials! As a baby gen-x, I don’t know what the world is coming to!
Or, if we’re complaining about gen x,
Those fucking gen exers! As an elder millennial I would never.
Illustrious-Lead-960@reddit
We already are.
DifficultMinute@reddit
They’ll have different problems with us, and we’ll deserve most of them, but yeah. They’re absolutely going to perceive us as old, out of touch, and the cause of society’s problems, just like we do the previous generations.
Character_Bend_5824@reddit
We already are. A lot of things which were trendy in the '90s or Y2K are out of style now. Jean shorts, boxers which are not boxer-briefs, undercuts, wallet chains, highlights on men. Even tattoos seem to be reversing course. Aside from style, we're also the last to experience "real" pre-internet life. Today's generation refuse to "just deal with it" and in a way, I find it incredibly interesting to see how this demand for better treatment works out.
Top_Chard5757@reddit
You must not have middle schoolers. We are boomers
MisRandomness@reddit
I’m pretty sure the younger generations will hate and blame us for not having enough to care for ourselves in retirement (not understanding the financial struggles we’ve endured) and that they will have to “deal” with us in some way as if we chose that path.
elsie78@reddit
Yep. Happens to every generation when they become the eldest.
TonyNoPants@reddit
No way, we are too awesome. I wonder if it was all that Oregon Trail?
ohwowimonredditcool@reddit
absolutely. that’s how progress works.
KayBeeToys@reddit
I don’t see why we would—we never had a boom era, just bust after bust
polygonalopportunist@reddit
Honestly Gen Z reminds me a lot of Boomers. I wonder if the behaviors just recycle every other generation. Maybe we are closer to the greatest generation in terms of mindset.
Weird_Squirrel_8382@reddit
Already happening lol. I think there's a little less generation gap since most of us are on the same Internet as our kids. I don't feel as left out from conversations or concepts as my mom and grandmother said they did.
EvenSpoonier@reddit
We already are. It sucks.
Sodamyte@reddit
It's already started lol..
PuzzleheadedRush4504@reddit
There will definitely be enough of us sticking our heads in the microwave to make it seem that way.
But, I think the boomer gen is utterly unique in how much fuckery they have dispensed in our world!
MastersOfNoneShow@reddit
Yes but we'll be too tired to get as angry so we'll just keep quiet about it
automirage04@reddit
Not progressive enough? God, I hope so.
Tetris_Pete@reddit
No, we have souls.
a_little_hazel_nuts@reddit
Do you believe in trickle down economics? Do you show judgement towards everyone that doesn't look and live the way you do and blame them for what is caused by the current Oligarchy?
PeterPunksNip@reddit
We won't bother with unwanted family reunions.