Nun stabbed in Zagreb
Posted by Bench14KG@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 113 comments
Anyone know the full story? I’m hearing conflicting things. Some saying it was an illegal migrant others saying it wasn’t.
Unable_Might_5097@reddit
The peaceful religion strikes again
_D0llyy@reddit
No religion is peaceful
jankeyass@reddit
Buddhism is pretty peaceful
_D0llyy@reddit
no it's not
jankeyass@reddit
Is that the only sample chat gpt gave you?
_D0llyy@reddit
If you find it through Google instead of chatgpt would it be more real? Or since it was found using gpt those people didn't really die and got raped with the help of Buddhist monks?
jankeyass@reddit
No,. It's just funny people resorting to ai to try and prove a point
_D0llyy@reddit
AI is a tool just like reddit and Google are tools. Your digression says a lot. Want me to link more atrocities committed in the name of Buddhism without using AI? Won't take long, just a lil bit longer. Or you can look by yourself, if you're honest enough.
jankeyass@reddit
Oh I use AI as a tool for work. It makes mundane tasks easy. And I train agents regularly for different departments. I just find it hilarious when people use it for an argument. Arguments are supposed to be about your own intellect and ability to know where to find information. A chat bot being used in an argument shows that you don't know what you are talking about, and are relying on something else to do it for you.
_D0llyy@reddit
Forgive me for not remembering every single religion atrocity news link by heart and have it ready to be shot in a reddit comment section. I'll do better.
jankeyass@reddit
If you bothered to do it yourself, you would have known that the atrocities committed by those Buddhist has nothing to do about their religion, or any other religions, but people being shit cunts.
That there is the fallacy of relying on a chat bot for the argument. You didn't understand what to argue about, and you don't know how to use it properly
_D0llyy@reddit
Oh and atrocities committed by other religions have everything to do with the love and peace they profess? Or maybe it is always just a means to an end? Faith is one thing, organized religion is a whole different thing. Nothing against faith, everything against religion.
jankeyass@reddit
So... The Buddhists kill people in the name of Buddha?
Just curious on that one
_D0llyy@reddit
Does it matter? They abused their position as Buddhist monks (which are supposedly non-violent!), to "clear" Rakhine from Muslims, because they were Muslims and not Buddhist. Isn't it enough for you? You were expecting some kind of audiovisual help to understand better that religion is used as an excuse to commit violence since it first existed? I might be using AI to do research but at least I don't need some shithead priest to tell me what to do or think.
jankeyass@reddit
Ofcourse it matters. Humans have killed forever and will kill forever. Doing it in the name of religion is the difference
You can use AI to help you find sources but do vett it properly. It's not a be all and end all answer. I correct the AI for work all the time. And that's the enterprise edition. 5.1 is only sort of starting to make some cognitive sense.
_D0llyy@reddit
They will do it in the name of whatever is more convenient. Religion is a big classic because it's an easy way to manipulate illiterate/ignorant people. I didn't use AI to write a single comment, I didn't use AI to form an opinion of any sort, I just used AI to find a news article of which title I wasn't remembering. Not sure what you're so mad about.
jankeyass@reddit
Ok - that wasn't a "news article"
HWR is not a news outlet.
You used AI to try to make your argument and did not do so well. What happened was terrible, but in no shape way or form was it religiously motivated or explained.
_D0llyy@reddit
No? Then why did they target a Muslim minority in a prevalent Buddhist region? Why didn't they target other Buddhists?
jankeyass@reddit
Humans have forever sharpened a stick and attacked each other, we always divide on something, even if we're all under one country, we will divide by state or region, if same state, then by other geography, if within the same locale, then by what team we like, if same team, then who has liked the team longer. Human nature is war, it's stealing instead of building, it's killing instead of fostering growth.
The only time we unite is against a common threat.
So I ask you Did they target them specifically because they are Muslim, or because they are not the same overall? Did they do it in the name of Buddha? Where in the Buddhists scrolls does it say to kill non believers like it does in the abrahamic religions?
_D0llyy@reddit
That's what I'm saying, it's just an excuse. I don't give a shit about old ass made up books dude. There is no peaceful religion. Religion is not faith, just politics with extra steps. If it was so pure and spiritual, there wouldn't be a need to organize it because it would be personal and intimate. Instead, this happens.
jankeyass@reddit
And still you miss the point
_D0llyy@reddit
Enlighten me
jankeyass@reddit
For it to be a violent religion, it has to preach violence about non believers at least at one point. Buddhism doesn't do that. Abrahamic religions do. Individual people are a different story
_D0llyy@reddit
Who decided that? You, now?
jankeyass@reddit
Me? Now? You think I wrote the story of Abraham going to kill his son to prove his loyalty to god? I wrote the old testament or surah?
No-Example-5107@reddit
Except Jainism, which has non-violence as a core tenet. The Abrahamic religions, on the other hand, are a cancer upon the Earth.
_D0llyy@reddit
There are a few smaller cases of violence even regarding Jainism. The thing is, when we speak about faith everything goes fine, when it becomes religion, therefore organized, with people in charge of choices for the whole thing, someone looking for power or fame will ruin it. It's human nature. I respect faith, I shit on religion.
MichaelLachanodrakon@reddit
Yeah, my pastor always says that those who abandon Christianity are to be killed, and those who insult Jesus must be beheaded.
Oh wait.
MUh ThE CrUsAdEs
_D0llyy@reddit
Yes you're right, your religion amongst thousands of others is the only peaceful one and also the only true one. You're special.
MichaelLachanodrakon@reddit
Do you often put words in other people's mouths?
Where there are people, you have depravity. Be it for the noblest causes in the world. But some causes are openly depraved from the get go. That's what you obviously fail to comprehend.
Puzzleheaded_Cut_815@reddit
True
Double-D7493@reddit
It think it has more to do with extremist terrorist, but ok
Moist_Ad2066@reddit
This is not a question of muslims vs christians. This is a matter of importing traumatized people with nothing to lose.
Yavannia@reddit
Nobody cares if the native population becomes traumatized from witnessing this shit daily. Poor traumatized murderers, rapists and terrorists.
Moist_Ad2066@reddit
Don't worry, we're on the same page. Just keeping focus on the issue.
AST360@reddit
This \^
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
domets@reddit
Racism?
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
Lmao no
domets@reddit
As per recent news, the wound seems self-inflicted and everyone is talking about immigrants attacking Christianity, I don't know how else to call it
https://www.index.hr/mobile/vijesti/clanak/sto-se-dogodilo-ozlijedjenoj-casnoj-u-zagrebu-nema-dokaza-da-je-napadnuta/2735326.aspx?index_ref=naslovnica_vijesti_prva_m
Gemascus01@reddit
“Peacefull religion” those guys should be deported to mars
TihPotok@reddit
Is there such a thing as a peaceful religion?
I mean, some “good Catholics” (at least they believed they were) exterminated Serbs, Roma, and Jews in concentration camps during WWII. And now, exactly 80 years later, the grandchildren of those “good Christians” are chanting “Za dom spremni” under a drone show depicting the Virgin Mary.
The truth is that any religion can be easily twisted into a tool for violence.
Suvigirl@reddit
I think they were Protestants
TihPotok@reddit
Does it matter?
Suvigirl@reddit
Probably to Catholics
jinawee@reddit
Better chanting than terrorist attacks.
krindjcat@reddit
Don't entertain this bs, it's just a lazy talking point he saw on the Internet that he repeats without much thought.
WestConversation5506@reddit
I think you should be more precise who exactly you don’t like. You don’t see the most religious Bosnians or Albanians do such things…
PrettyChillHotPepper@reddit
Yes because they're civilised Europeans.
Exact_Sea_2501@reddit
But there is a pattern here definitely. Noone can denying that
telescope11@reddit
there isn't lol
krindjcat@reddit
Who are you quoting? Who said "peaceful religion? How does this relate to the article? Are you implying the guy is Muslim? Statistically he's far more likely to be Hindu since that's most immigrants in Croatia.
Same_Round8072@reddit
Poor nun, I hope the guy gets what he deserves: deportation immediatly
nefewel@reddit
Pretty sure stabbing people should lead to prison not being set free somewhere else.
MichaelLachanodrakon@reddit
Abuse my hospitality and I'm throwing you outta my house, I ain't locking you in the cellar
Suvigirl@reddit
That's just stupid. The person gets away with no punishment then. Punish them first, then kick them out
MichaelLachanodrakon@reddit
Suggest a punishment then, that takes into consideration a land's resources and the high number of people of a particular demographic.
Suvigirl@reddit
Prison obviously. What other punishment?
MichaelLachanodrakon@reddit
So. Given the situation in the Balkans, with extremely overcrowded prisons and chronically underfunded justice departments, you suggest prisons for persons holding other passports.
Suvigirl@reddit
I suggest prisons for people of serious crimes.
Lamian87@reddit
Ok, ok. Let's use the short stick instead. 😂
Glacius_-@reddit
stab him back maybe
domets@reddit
This guy is smart
Magnum_Gonada@reddit
I mean you save money by not paying to have him locked up. It's cheaper to fly him to his country first class than putting him in a cell for a few decades.
Glacius_-@reddit
but then he can come back?
No_Technician_4709@reddit
Deportation means he’ll be back. Sometimes you need to make your hands dirty.
krindjcat@reddit
Like you did with Armenia?
PrettyChillHotPepper@reddit
Ooooooooooof
WestConversation5506@reddit
LOLOL this caught me off guard.
Same_Round8072@reddit
Well thats why border control is needed, we should just let enter the people who have good intentions, but hey atleast we have diversity /s
EdVedPJ7@reddit
Well, our prison sentences are embarrassing, so I'd prefer deportation to whatever shithole 3rd world country he arrived from.
833_768@reddit
Decapitation would be more fair punishment
domets@reddit
"U tijeku je obavljanje niza razgovora s osobama iz kruga bliskoj časnoj sestri kako bi se što prije utvrdilo porijeklo ozljeda."
https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/zagreb/u-zagrebu-izbodena-casna-sestra-15647518
Jutarnji list says they are searching for the culprit among the family members.
TheSlav87@reddit
Where’s the death penalty when you need it
krindjcat@reddit
Um....wouldn't he deserve to be prosecuted first?
Same_Round8072@reddit
Well yeah, but with our justice system the guy would leave prison after 2.5 years
Double-D7493@reddit
I think prison is more appropriate, you talk as if being deported to your country is a punishment
MichaelLachanodrakon@reddit
If the other country is Syria, it is a punishment
Crafty-Analysis-1468@reddit
Deportation means he’ll just go to another country and do the same thing
Discipline_Cautious1@reddit
Speculating about someone’s immigration status without evidence just spreads misinformation. Scum there OP.
Brbaster@reddit
Especially when Croatia has a lot of legal migrants in the recent years
WestConversation5506@reddit
Djukela…OP je cigo.
Bossa_11@reddit
Well well well , public execution for her (the immigrant )
TheSlav87@reddit
Jesus Christ, literally…..
What the fuck is going on. These migrant cunts are getting outta hand, it’s the same here in Canada.
I don’t remember our family and friends that moved to Canada being this fucked in the head when we immigrated here. Why is it that all the immigrants nowadays are batshit crazy and just fucking shit human being in general.
Encerty@reddit
Btw it's not confirmed it's migrand
WestConversation5506@reddit
It sucks seeing this kind of thing. The reports haven’t confirmed the killer’s identity, but it’s sad to see a nun pass away like this. It’s also sad that all Muslims will end up being viewed more negatively because of it, when the vast majority don’t behave like uncivilized savages or go looking to cause problems.
domets@reddit
She didn't pass away. The wound is small, she went back to the convent on her own and then someone else brought her to ER.
WestConversation5506@reddit
Oh thats good news. After seeing stabbed thought she passed.
Olphegae@reddit
Yeah I mean, I got a muslim friend, barely speaks my language (or english) but damn do we have talk about interesting stuff. Feels good to philosophize with someone with opposite views, we reach middle ground all the time.
Besides, the ones that are violent arent muslims, they are sinners of their religion.
WestConversation5506@reddit
These incidents involve people who spent most of their lives in extremely disordered, lawless countries with a tribal mentality that is often far worse than what the Balkans has seen in recent times. When they come to the West or move elsewhere, they bring that mentality with them.
shadowminds97@reddit
Free Free, Palestine
Ryuko_Akkiko@reddit
Can someone tell when or where? I live in Zagreb and practically travel the whole town every day on the way to and from school so it's very possible I passed the place or ambulance
toombs7@reddit
Malešnica
Ryuko_Akkiko@reddit
My friend lives like two minutes away from there and I visited her yesterday. Right, so, I'm staying the hell away from Vrapče for the time being
tipoftheiceberg1234@reddit
I’ve read the article in Croatian and it doesn’t say the identity of the stabber.
A nun getting stabbed is a marked tragedy. It’s very visible and will elicit a stronger reaction from the public than if it was a lay-person.
Whoever did it could’ve been:
A crazy person who stabbed the first person they saw
A crazy person who stabbed her on purpose because they knew her personally
A crazy person who stabbed her because of what her outfit represented. This person may be any religion, or irreligious.
But if it was a migrant this is going to fan the flames like crazy. People will want them hung in the town square.
If it was a non-migrant Muslim, an intense debate and outcry may occur, but on the whole the reaction may be less than if it was a migrant who stabbed her.
Solmyr_@reddit
yes personal beefs with nuns are very common
tipoftheiceberg1234@reddit
It doesn’t have to be beef. He could’ve loved her but was enraged that she rejected him, that they can’t be together etc…
Some people are so sick because they are so hurt/abused that the thought of anything “gentle” is disturbing to them. It short circuits their brain. If this was some sick soul who stabbed a kind and passive person because their gentle energy makes them aware of how disturbed they are, it wouldn’t be the first such case.
Severe_Reception1@reddit
It was a m*slim extremist that was yelling the usual words but our traitorous media will not write it because killer wasn't a white catholic Croat and the victim wasn't nutjob left wing woman but a catholic nun.
backhand_english@reddit
Every single media put the news up. There is no news about the attacker yet, other than what people are writing on Facebook. The nun came to the hospital on her own. The attacker could be a migrant, could be a local psycho, could be Srđan fucking Mlađan, for all we know.
Don't spread bullshit around. Let the institutions do their job.
MrDilbert@reddit
Jesus F. Christ, this sentence makes me wanna AK-47 the people saying it unironically.
Severe_Reception1@reddit
Every media put the news up, but not on the cover. No media wrote about the motive of the attack, who the attacker was and what he was shouting. At the same time no far left feminist organizations are writing anything about a woman getting stabbed in broad daylight. If it was a hetereosexual, white catholic by now we would know his ID number, address and feminist organizations would already be marching on the street while media would be screaming about "fascism".
Srđan, for sure /s 😉
EdoValhalla77@reddit
Stop writing nonsense attacker was known nutcase. And psychos come In all shapes and sizes. Recently Croat attacked Police in Germany with knife does that mean German should blame all Croats.
Severe_Reception1@reddit
You must know something we don't /s
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Mastermindkrug2@reddit
Страшно је то.
Turbulent-Debate7661@reddit
Bring more filth to the balkans.
Relevant_Mobile6989@reddit
Dude didn't get The Nun is just a movie.
immortalx74@reddit
At this point it's a disease. It's almost always the same people but no, we aren't allowed to say anything.
Puzzled_Muzzled@reddit
Maybe confused her for Batman