The Truth About Argentina’s ‘Bailout.’ The US didn’t give Argentina money. It entered into a currency swap – and the US has actually earned a profit on the transaction.
Posted by Effective_Reach_9289@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 8 comments
The_Last_Donut@reddit
The author of the article you’re using fundamentally misunderstands how this arrangement works and, as others have pointed out, when the United States realizes gains from the arrangement. I’m not a finance guru, just a person that didn’t know what a currency swap was and read a handful of articles a month ago to understand it better. So take this with a grain of salt and I welcome corrections.
The currency swap can be thought of more like buying stock. When you buy stock of a company, you pay the current market value of that stock. While you hold the stock, the company either performs well and investment grows or the company falters and your investment shrinks. However, your bank account doesn’t truly realize that gain or lose until you cash out. The issue is that Argentina isn’t a company with a history of financial stability, so this is high risk.
The high risk can be worth it the pros outweigh the cons, but the trouble people are having is that there doesn’t seem to be enough upside to match this risk. Argentina’s economy doesn’t have a large effect on the US economy, so why prop them up when it’s not necessary? The Argentine government has defaulted on loans multiple times before. Milei is running things different but what happens if someone takes office? The Argentine government also doesn’t have much of a reserve once you take their debts into account. So if their economy does crash, the Pesos that the US has will lose its value and they won’t be able to pay back the swapped currency.
The other issue people have with this is that the $20 billion used from the US treasury economic stabilization fund is being used at a time when many people suspected a forthcoming US recession. So while Argentina was/is taking lots of Chinese business from American farmers, we are using our economic stabilization fund to prop up someone else’s economy when ours isn’t looking too strong either.
Long story short, the article you provided is looking at a snapshot in time and, while we didn’t “give” money to Argentina in the technical since, if their economy continues its decades old tradition of high inflation and failing to pay back lenders, we might as well have given them the money. We won’t know the true gains/loses for some time, we can only gauge this on its potential risk/reward. I personally don’t see much reward for the American people.
jennajoy1@reddit
Currency swaps are a common but often misunderstood tool in international finance. What happened with Argentina wasn't charity - it was a financial transaction that benefits both parties.
In a currency swap, central banks exchange currencies for a set period with an agreement to reverse the transaction later. Argentina gets dollars they need for immediate stability, while the US gets pesos plus interest. When the swap reverses, both return the principal amounts.
The US actually made money on this deal through interest payments. It's not taxpayer funds being "given away" as some claim.
These arrangements help prevent financial crises that could have ripple effects throughout the global economy. Even if you support minimal government intervention, having basic financial stability mechanisms is prag
mcilbag@reddit
Bold move to be "well actually" on a matter where an avowed Libertarian desperately needed huge intervention in their currency market to prevent economic collapse.
Besides, we know the real reason had nothing to do with Milei and was an actual bailout of a mate of Scott Bessent.
ButtTrollFeeder@reddit
A $20 billion currency swap is a functional loan. Yes, the US literally gave Argentina US dollars in exchange for future pesos.
Any increase in peso valuation is currently unrealized gains for the swap.
This could end up as a net positive... or a net negative.
Either way, this is far from fiscally libertarian.
N3CR0T1C_V3N0M@reddit
I think it’s way too early to make a determination on how this will turn out. In the month since the swap, the currency has swung wildly in both directions of +/- 500 so depending when you write the article or snapshot the history, it was either a massive win, massive loss, or right in the Goldilocks Zone, which is where it is currently.
Nasty_nate1989@reddit
Ehh. Lipstick on a pig. Fuck Scott Bessent, Rob Citrone and Argentina. Call it what you want with your "libertarian" boner for anything Milei, but it's rich dudes doing shady rich dude shit. Our farmers got screwed in the deal, Citrone got richer. Yeah sounds about right.
aprx4@reddit
There's some confusion here. The profit isn't from currency swap, US made profit from buying pesos directly on the market when it was around the bottom. The currency swap with Argentina central bank would be exercised at fixed rate on both legs. AFAIK it hasn't been exercised and US would only earn interest if Argentina pay/swap back.
Effective_Reach_9289@reddit (OP)
SS: The U.S. provided dollars, and Argentina provided an equal value in Argentine pesos. The US now holds more than $41 billion in value from the original $40 billion, yielding a 2.6% return in just one month.