Constant "How To Learn Without AI" posts
Posted by mrwishart@reddit | learnprogramming | View on Reddit | 59 comments
Can we get a pinned post that answers this? Seems pointless to get the same question over and over again here
Jaded_Individual_630@reddit
Shouting their every thought into a text field is literally all they know how to do I'm afraid.
fell_ware_1990@reddit
And it’s so simple…..Don’t use AI. Done
JustSomeCarioca@reddit
It speaks volumes about the nose dive critical thinking has taken, at even the most basic level.
"Hi, I'm fat, and I eat cookies and ice cream every day and sit on the sofa watching TV. How can I lose weight?"
ThunderChaser@reddit
I’m genuinely worried about the future of our species because of this.
There’s a terrifying amount of people who act as if because AI exists there’s no point in thinking, because ChatGPT can write an answer in less than a second. At a massive scale this has disastrous ramifications for human civilization.
AI should never be seen as, or ever allowed to be a replacement for human ingenuity, creativity, or the pursuit of knowledge. It should only ever supplant our intelligence but never fully replace it.
Academic_Current8330@reddit
The problem is there is a very large amount of the population that have no interest in pursuing knowledge. Most are only interested in Tiktok and Love Island.
DowntownBake8289@reddit
Don't sit on the sofa watching TV. Sit on a sofa that doesn't watch TV, and YOU watch TV.
SprinklesFresh5693@reddit
This, it is everywhere, on every single field of life on every forum.
radicallyhip@reddit
Switch to diet cookies, obviously.
DaedricPants@reddit
people suddenly forgot there's a ton of human made resources to learn virtually anything for free on the internet
IlliterateJedi@reddit
Unfortunately this is what searching for information online is like in 2025:
Riaayo@reddit
I'm going to be kicking myself in a few years for all the shit I didn't learn how to do during the golden age of free open resources.
IlliterateJedi@reddit
Luckily the LLM companies gobbled up all the information and are largely making it accessible for free
mattmaster68@reddit
I really think it’s just the bots astroturfing and taking advantage of the average Redditor’s poor self-reflection.
We know Reddit bots have an agenda. See: Green Party hate.
We know astroturfing exists on Reddit. See: Harris vs Trump 2024.
We know the people reading books aren’t doing it while they’re complaining about AI at Reddit. See: humans can’t be in 2 places doing 2 things at once.
And sure some comments will come along and nitpick at the technicalities of my comment and completely ignore the nuance - skipping right over the fact that the internet does not make up the entire human population, and is rather a small fraction of it - ESPECIALLY REDDIT.
Asad2023@reddit
As pro ai user i think my life would become way difficult without it
Moikle@reddit
You are addicted.
Asad2023@reddit
Yeah i think but i used for learning not and from my usage i find it quite promising as learning tool i dont think if you want to srudy programming books would help that much ai is kinda interactive book that teaches student and also resolve the question you have in mind but yeah its been used way too much i remember in my orogramming classed many of my friends copypaste the whole practice we were given to do ourselves
Lotusw0w@reddit
Life for people before LLM must be very difficult then /s
GetPsyched67@reddit
You shouldn't be too reliant on anything. You can upskill your way out of that position
Asad2023@reddit
I know as i use ai i find it that peoplebare getting dependent on it but i think its quite good tool in education field also is very helpful if you have ideas but cant work on them ai helps in it alot
Riaayo@reddit
If learning without AI was a simple as "don't use AI" then we wouldn't of have schooling/education because people would just... learn.
Like c'mon lol.
This isn't me saying people should use that dogshit slop, for the record; just that like, how to learn shit has always been a difficult process. It's not wrong for people to ask for guidance on where to start/focus, it's literally what schooling exists for, and it's not "as simple as".
Shakil130@reddit
It is not that simple I'm afraid. If people ask that question, it can also mention a dependence on ai, which i think , was tottaly planned to happen by its creators.
Or when you have a dependence on something , things actually are more complicated, so people asking how to get rid of ai can easily mean them realizing that they are dependents.
hacker_of_Minecraft@reddit
I made a comment about breaking an AI addiction, you would have to be willing to stop using AI for it to work though: https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/1p53ur3/comment/nqgjwue/?context=3
Safe_Chocolate2704@reddit
People have an addiction to AI….? I need to talk to some of these losers and call them horrible names because that’s just silly
GetPsyched67@reddit
People can have an addiction to anything. It's just human psychology.
While it is silly sometimes, we should give them some grace, addiction isn't choice most of the time.
Safe_Chocolate2704@reddit
Cmon now…sure when we talk about drugs or gambling but AI? These people need to get a grip. We can show empathy elsewhere not to some loser addicted to AI lol that’s just sad. We do not show them grace lets say it together
GetPsyched67@reddit
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1876201825001194
Shakil130@reddit
Thanks for the concerned people. I personally dont use it at all because i was too lazy to change my habits. And then I encountered people who do it too much at work and I'm now genuinely scared of using it anytime soon.
odisJhonston@reddit
they could literally just ask AI and get that answer
Vladislav20007@reddit
and /s or /j to it, because some people may misunderstand it... somehow.
mxldevs@reddit
They are 100% serious and it's also 100% true.
Vladislav20007@reddit
fucking hell.
Blando-Cartesian@reddit
AI killed the need for this sub to help with technical problems. All that’s left is discussion for the sake of human interaction and questions about human nature (learning, making mistakes, frustrations). Those always feel unique to the one asking and canned answers don’t help with need to be heard.
mrwishart@reddit (OP)
"Feel unique to the one asking" doesn't mean it isn't, in reality, the same question posed over and over again that absolutely can be answered with a pinned post or a megathread.
Blando-Cartesian@reddit
Quite so. However, my point was that a canned answer to the same question by somebody else doesn't satisfy the needs that make people ask questions on a discussion forum. If it did, this sub could just as well go read-only and everybody could get their questions answered by search or a dozen chatbots regurgitating information already collected here.
mrwishart@reddit (OP)
Except for all the non-AI questions that get buried by the repetitive ones
caroulos123@reddit
The best way to learn programming is through hands-on practice, building projects, and engaging with the community.
RAF2018336@reddit
If you ever come across the r/teachers subreddit you’d see how much kids are lacking in critical thinking skills these days. Kids that don’t know their address so they google “what’s my address”. I was scared at one point about getting too old and not being employable, but that’s not even a concern anymore
ntk19@reddit
Use the paperback book, white paper and pencil. Done
Gold-Strength4269@reddit
Before 2023 the way to learn was: Khan academy Freecodecamp E readers Ipads and iphones Udemy and youtube Console apps Git hub Paid books with correct formatting Company epub/pdf files.
Ai is just another way to study something. But it has the formatting correct, so you could probably format an existing pdf with the correct one faster.
CastroEulis145@reddit
A lot of the posts on this sub are really fuckin stupid
N3wAfrikanN0body@reddit
1) Read man pages 2) Read documentation 3) Ask questions 4) Build things 5) Break things 6) Feel like an imposter 7) Spiral as necessary 8) Pick yourself up and start again 9) Repeat as needed
Geo-NS@reddit
I'll have a 6 7 please
gandalfmarston@reddit
I'm glad the competition can't code without AI lol
aqua_regis@reddit
Nobody reads pinned posts, nor the FAQ.
divad1196@reddit
Right. Nor the rules. But a bot could do enforce it
BrohanGutenburg@reddit
But who among us would have the skills to make such a thing???
Training-Pound504@reddit
Amog us?
HasFiveVowels@reddit
Just be sure not to use any AI when building it. We must stay vigilant and guard against the utilization of useful new technologies.
CannibalPride@reddit
I read it, but only after I run out of options
drebenzi@reddit
AI is best used as a Super Google search, an advanced automation tool, or a whiteboard. It's literally created by humans taught through human-made resources.
stillphat@reddit
I was taught flowcharts and to hand write code
PoMoAnachro@reddit
The types of people who become dependent on AI are also the types of people who never read FAQs or pinned posts.
gomsim@reddit
And the "I use AI to learn, but I never learn. What am I doing wrong?" posts.
ScholarNo5983@reddit
Unfortunately, people struggling to learn will move to the easy option, which is to use AI to learn, meaning they will then learn nothing.
And because they are also struggling to learn, they will then not realize they are learning nothing.
We are witnessing a real-life example of Catch 22, which up until this point was nothing but a fictional construct.
rg25@reddit
I'm just sick of the news articles I see about people saying the best thing you can do is teach your kid to us AI.
dsound@reddit
You can use AI to help you, but there are special ways of doing it. You can have AI set up a fake backend for you that emulates a company and gives tasks to do or you can have it set up JavaScript drills with tests to figure out or you can even use the Socratic method with it so it doesn’t give you the answers but helps you think through things.
aqua_regis@reddit
/r/woosh
...and completely missed the point of the post
Bonzie_57@reddit
Even if we make a pinned post, these people don’t know how to do their own research lol
ScholarNo5983@reddit
Using AI is just one sugar hit after another. Consuming too much sugar is known to cause all kinds of human health conditions. The final outcome is totally predictable.