If Every car company today started making planes like Ford did back in the day, which car company plane would you LEAST trust with your life.

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agha0013@reddit

god forbid Jeep/Chrysler/Dodge (now somehow worse than ever under it's third parent company) made planes......

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I’ve been wondering about the rubber duck thing. Why does every chrystler brand owner have dozens of rubber ducks on their dashboards? Seeing a chrystler Pacifica with a bunch of rubber duckies is always weird and I don’t get it

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nasadowsk@reddit

A number of years ago, some woman was having a bad day, and for whatever reason, put a rubber ducky she had on the windshield of a jeep with a note saying "nice Jeep". It became a thing after that...

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RiseInteresting5493@reddit

That story Kinda sweet, but I don’t know why that means every bloke with a Chrysler minivan needs a million duckies on their hood. Or the dodge avengers with them on every single interior surface.

Kinda tacky how much dodge and chrystler people go all out with it

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revcor@reddit

You keep insisting on referring to a very small minority of dodge/Chrysler/jeep owners as “all”

I agree it can be tacky, but continuously making ridiculous exaggerated claims about a huge group of people based on some little niche trend is even more tacky. It makes you sound like you really just want to say “all _ drivers are dumb” but with a way to deny it

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RiseInteresting5493@reddit

Dude I’m in Atlanta visiting family and I just saw a freaking charger scat pack with every interior surface lined with those damn duckies. It’s spreading like Covid

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OKatmostthings@reddit

Reddit MINI owners claim they did it first. I’ve honestly never seen a MINI doing it, though. My wife had MINIs from 2005 until 2024, so I figured it would have happened at least once if true.

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GeckoV@reddit

Have I got news for you

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

I feel like I died and went to the hell universe or something lol

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obxtalldude@reddit

We definitely took a wrong turn around a decade back. Is anything getting better?

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nguyenm@reddit

Hey, at least for a silver lining, it's new aircraft (eVTOL) production where the certification process post-737Max has been way, way more stringen.

Then again, workmanship isn't always audited daily until an incident occur.

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Good ! Gov regulations are amazing for civilians despite what certain "people" are saying today

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CySnark@reddit

Regulations are written in blood and erased in profits.

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Threedawg@reddit

the moderators have removed this comment for being "political

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therynosaur@reddit

Oh fuck 😂😂😂

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Xinonix1@reddit

I was going to reply Peugeot but they’re part of Stellantis, they would put their infamous 1100cc engine in the plane just to cut costs

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Skycbs@reddit

Might as well put that money in the parking lot and set it on fire

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yeyman@reddit

I want to downvote this so much just based on principle.

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joecarter93@reddit

Chrysler also had an aircraft charter company that was bought by Edsel Ford III.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentastar_Aviation

In addition they had an aircraft company when they were merged with Daimler-Benz

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Left_Afloat@reddit

Archer is going to have some problems with the current lawsuit against them by Joby.

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Mitochondria420@reddit

A match made in heaven.

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Consistent_Reply1505@reddit

Lol

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Doughnut292@reddit

oh, no.

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nodspine@reddit

Oh no

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Jeep: Pilot error, they turned on the windshield wiper

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

* Jeep " he turned on the windshield zipper, pilot error "

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Absolarix@reddit

o.o

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plhought@reddit

Dude.

Chrysler was prime contactor for multiple rockets, ICBMs, and large portions of the Saturn Rocket that launched people to the moon.

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agha0013@reddit

Not today's crysler

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Trousers_MacDougal@reddit

I believe in this era that Chrysler built Sherman tanks. Also the engine for the tank was of Chrysler design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_A57_multibank

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zoinkability@reddit

I recall reading that it ended up being a major disadvantage for Chrysler that they were given the work of making tanks, as tanks had a lot less in common with civilian vehicles needed after the war than the lighter vehicles other manufacturers made.

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joesnopes@reddit

Not sure. Buick made the R-2800, Packard made the Merlin. One prospered, the other didn't.

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navigationallyaided@reddit

Fiat had an aviation division that was a GE partner for the CF6-80 and GE90 programs.

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QuillsROptional@reddit

The Fiat G.55 Centauro was actually a pretty good WW2 fighter. Fiat Aviazione also made a few other good planes.

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samdamaniscool@reddit

"UHF radio call completed. Press Uconnect radio button to acknowledge with callsign" every time you key the mic sounds like a efficient system

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Bimlouhay83@reddit

They're cheap and a lot of what they have to offer look pretty cool. That's pretty much it.

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stevolutionary7@reddit

Yeah, but they wouldn't look half bad. Except for their electric sports plane. It would be awkwardly long.

Electrical gremlins galore.

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

😂 perfect 👌 comment for this post

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Madroc92@reddit

Stellantis.

My brother loves his Dodge and used to work on airplanes so I'm glad they never made them. He'd want to fly own one and I'd be worried sick for his wife and children.

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Cattledude89@reddit

Kia Hyundai

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bhenghisfudge@reddit

Jeep

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IllegalStateExcept@reddit

I was going to say Facebook because they would put distracting full screen ads on your glass cockpit. Then I remembered Jeep also did that: https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/jeep-introduces-pop-up-ads-that-appear-every-time-you-stop.143972/

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Kanyiko@reddit

Well, technically...

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No_Transition_7266@reddit

Junk Engineering Executed Poorly.

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Zorg_Employee@reddit

Anything under the Stellantis brand for sure

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sofixa11@reddit

Barring the occasional engine recall, IIRC their European brands are pretty decent. The new e-C3 is pretty cool, relatively affordable and a good small EV.

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FARTBOSS420@reddit

Just\ Expect\ Every\ Problem

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Kreeos@reddit

Buy your kid a Jeep and they'll never have money for drugs.

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DiggerJKU@reddit

I bought a Jeep and it’s the reason I now do drugs

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Ordinary-Rain-6897@reddit

Cheap drugs though, right? Unless you're some kind of health insurance ceo.

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FlyingDog14@reddit

Death wobble has now turned into death aileron flutter.

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Jeep fans 5 minutes before this: it's supposed to wobble

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Shortbus_Playboy@reddit

Yeah, well… it’s a Jeep thing, you wouldn’t understand.

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Ordinary-Rain-6897@reddit

When the vehicle sponatneously falls apart, other jeep owners give you rubber duckies to put on your dash, in solidarity because their jeep also fell apart. But when you see other jeeps immolating, you have to giveup one of your rubber dashboard duckies. its a jeep thing built around shared pain, disappointment, and shame that you own a jeep. No one really likes to talk about it.

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

*Jeep fans in the afterlife after flying a 2-month old plane

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LoggedOffinFL@reddit

But would there be dumbass ducks on the dashboard?

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TigerIll6480@reddit

Yes. Hundreds of them.

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TheElRojo@reddit

“This is weird, I see mountains ahead of us, but we’re clearly at devil duck AGL, so we should be plenty high to clear them. Check the backup Bikini duck for altitude.”

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Jeep "Make sure you're strapped in tight and wearing Eyewear because the way we built the windshield at an angle means it'll instantly break apart while taking off"

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Muad_Dib_of_Arrakis@reddit

"We designed the plane with a trim fuel tank you can't actually trim and will constantly shift CoG, and the lining is delicious to mice so have fun, cultists!"

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

After flying a jeep plane to Tokyo

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Dont_Care_Meh@reddit

BMW.

It would cost the airline less money to buy a new BMW plane than it would to keep a current one flying.

"According to the triennial preventive maintenance bulletin, BMW Flugzueg Werke says to change all 4 engines, the flaps, the cockpit instrumentation, the left strut, and the skin of the entire aircraft, and to expect failure of the APU, the vertical stab mechanism, bulkheads 20-47, and hydraulic pumps 1-4 as wear items. That'll be $47 million, please."

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Ornery_Car6883@reddit

Dodge obviously. Your be safe, but you'd never leave because the pilot doesn't show up. Every pilot would be getting hammered until 2am with a 7am departure. They'll leave the party in their Ram saying something like "I'll be fine, I'll just fly the back routes". Of course they'll get pulled over and arrested and then officer will find an outstanding warrant for unpaid child support.

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Tr0yticus@reddit

Tesla

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cloneman88@reddit

are they unsafe or unreliable?

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obxtalldude@reddit

Used to be ok, but with the character of the company changing daily - I would NOT trust them now.

I've bought three Model Ss starting in 2016 - had one pack go bad after 60k miles. Pretty good experience overall.

But it's like things are going backwards - FSD used to be good, now it's unusable on cars with older computers, at least if you are sensitive to constant speed changes as it "sees" things and can't decide what to do.

Just bought a Silverado EV to replace my Model S. So far it's a better vehicle, but worse software.

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PaddyMayonaise@reddit

No, but I will admit there’re too gadgety for my tastes. My work car is a Tesla and I honestly hate it, everything is weird to me. No ignition, no keys, no gear shift, everything is on the touch screen, even stupid things like locking doors, moving mirrors, etc.

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Threedawg@reddit

Teslas are incredibly unreliable with awful build quality.

They once used fake wood trim to secure a body control unit and get the model X out the door instead of waiting for the proper mounting parts..

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uhmhi@reddit

You just described every single thing I love about my Tesla. Only goes to show that one size never fits all...

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UnitB17@reddit

Yes.

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ChuckSRQ@reddit

Yeah, because the same CEO making the best rockets right now would make bad planes… lol you people are not serious.

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nilocinator@reddit

The irony of saying this not even a week after a SpaceX rocket exploded

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Kreeos@reddit

If people actually paid attention, they would learn that SpaceX is intentionally trying to destroy some rockets that they have intentionally damaged (e.g. removed some heat shielding tiles) in order to find out what the limits are for the rocket and what is serious damage and what isn't.

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CrouchingToaster@reddit

Sure they are, and my pasty white butt is the shah of Iran

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Kreeos@reddit

You know that destructive testing is a thing right... literally every major product undergoes it.

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RNG_randomizer@reddit

Yeah but most planes (or other products) are tested to destruction on a test stand, not by yeeting them skyward while wearing sunglasses to watch the explosion.

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Kreeos@reddit

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you're a better expert in SpaceX's operations than its CEO. My mistake.

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uhmhi@reddit

This has nothing to do with fanboyism or sucking up to Elon. It's all about limiting the spread of misinformation and acknowledging the few good things that Elon has actually contributed to this world...

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ltsmash1200@reddit

That is a test rocket that they’re still in the process of iterating. It wasn’t meant to carry people or cargo.

Falcon 9 is the safest and most reliable rocket ever built.

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RNG_randomizer@reddit

I believe the honor of safest and most reliable rocket ever built goes to the Saturn rockets. No fatalities or explosions . Obviously there’s the HUGE caveat that the Apollo One fire was on the rocket, but technically that was a failure of the “payload” not the rocket and was not in a flight.

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IanCrapReport@reddit

Found the non engineer.

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nilocinator@reddit

Found the 16 year old fanboy

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IanCrapReport@reddit

lol sure. Stick to your liberal arts studies. Math is too hard for you

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nilocinator@reddit

I don’t listen to cowards with comments and posts hidden. Once you graduate high school you might start to understand the world better

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vfrflying@reddit

You gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet haha

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malcolmmonkey@reddit

He isn’t “making the best” rockets. He’s throwing the most money at rockets. There are people who could make better rockets if they had that budget.

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ChuckSRQ@reddit

Cope.

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malcolmmonkey@reddit

Literally every space agency that has ever existed has striven for reusability since the beginning of time 🤣. You think NASA kept making fresh Saturn Vs because the “vibe was off” in the old ones?

Your bullshit doesn’t fly here brother.

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Raguleader@reddit

I'm willing to bet money that Elon Musk has never built a rocket in his life. But to be fair, he's never built a car either.

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ChuckSRQ@reddit

Under this type of logic, you could say an American President has never killed someone’s because they didn’t do it themselves personally.

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uhmhi@reddit

I'm willing to bet money that while Elon hasn't necessarily had his hands dirty in the rocket factory, he knows a great deal more about how to build a rocket than your average redditor...

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

I don't trust a man who controls an entire social media site using his money and not his brains and chooses to spread racism, sexism, and massive divisions to destroy the United States .

Its most popular racist users are from countries that want to destroy the US from within

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ChuckSRQ@reddit

Delusional.

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Dua_Leo_9564@reddit

the same CEO that bought twitter and somehow make it worse ?

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ChuckSRQ@reddit

The number of users increased. Individual usage has increased. He fired all the rift raft worthless employees and now it’s worth like 4x-5x as much.

How exactly did he make it worse?

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MaksweIlL@reddit

at least they have the balls to show user's country of origin. Can't say the same about reddit

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Geekenstein@reddit

Parts are literally falling off the cyber dumpster. It’s had repeated safety recalls. In no way would I be a beta tester for them, like all the people who own their vehicles now, basically.

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ti36xamateur@reddit

Well, Nazis do make the best rockets

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Interesting_Study998@reddit

Autopilot randomly tries to kill you, instead of those silly “pilot inactivity” alarms?

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MaksweIlL@reddit

so like Boing?

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Obi_Kwiet@reddit

Yup. "To lower flaps, navigate through this touchscreen menu"

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Rafikis_Ass@reddit

Sorry, it’s actually this menu but we hid it in the new UX upgrade. You’ve also lost autopilot unless you upgrade your hardware.

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Threedawg@reddit

The windows are supposed to fall off

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turpentinedreamer@reddit

Sir this is airbus

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katzengoldgott@reddit

Please don’t insult Airbus that way

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-Fraccoon-@reddit

Your plane’s charge just depleted 50% faster due to actually loading passengers onboard, please land immediately or the battery will die within the next 50 miles.

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Invisible_INTJ@reddit

C'mon it's easy:

Dynamics->Controls->Hydraulics->Wings->Rear Surface->Flaps->Type in degrees of flap->Enter->Confirm->Y->Enter

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fujimonster@reddit

lol, not true. You can assign a lot of functions to the steering wheel buttons so to lower flaps it would probably be just a right thumb movement on the right pad -- but I'm betting you don't own one or you'd know that.

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blurfgh@reddit

Flaps lower automatically when the AI determines you’re on final. No you can’t do it manually why would you want to do that ???

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_Abe_Froman_SKOC@reddit

"I see you are trying to eject. That mode is currently in Beta testing. Would you like to upgrade your subscription?"

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Vince_IRL@reddit

After an emergency landing, all doors are locked and stay locked until the plane has fully burned out.

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CotswoldP@reddit

"Your landing gear subscription has expired, please update your payment details. It may take up to two days for the payment to clear"

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bladel@reddit

But the latest software upgrade makes fart noises whenever you spin up the APU.

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Ordinary-Ad4503@reddit

😂

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njsullyalex@reddit

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You realize they are making the rocket that carries astronauts to the ISS?

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Raguleader@reddit

Tesla doesn't make rockets.

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Tr0yticus@reddit

Didn’t realize Tesla made rockets.

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nilocinator@reddit

Tesla makes rockets?

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Aurenax@reddit

Not at all lol. Elon musk just owns both.

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wayoverpaid@reddit

OTA update to your autopilot starting now. Engines suddenly power off at 30,000 ft

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Oh that's a good one, after their rockets I couldn't trust anything in the air by them

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Misophonic4000@reddit

After their rockets? You can say whatever you want about Tesla, but SpaceX's Falcon 9 is the commercial rocket with the safest, most reliable track record out there...

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1060nm@reddit

Sure, but Tesla isn’t SpaceX

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Misophonic4000@reddit

That's not what the comment I replied to was about. The comment was specifically about SpaceX and "their rockets".

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1060nm@reddit

My bad.

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Zorndy@reddit

Do u mean spacex? If so I'd trust their aircraft. Starship is attempting to do something never been done before and their regular commercial rockets are extremely reliable

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Elon Musk owns 42 % of SpaceX, I don't trust anything he touches anymore. The racism, the division, the hate

He is a wealthy agent of chaos with hidden agendas

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eternalshackleford@reddit

I bet a plane made by Mitsubishi would be a smash hit

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thinkscotty@reddit

Mitsubishi makes a Japanese fighter jet, the F-2, basically a fancy upscale F-16. They make like 2 a year just to keep the assembly line operational.

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Darth_Thor@reddit

r/woooosh

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wlpaul4@reddit

F-2’s are wicked cool planes too.

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dean84921@reddit

"So how much anti-ship capabilities do you want us to squeeze into this oddly imposing F-16?"

"Yes."

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ZCEyPFOYr0MWyHDQJZO4@reddit

Serial production ended 14 years ago - any remaining production would be for parts.

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thinkscotty@reddit

I might have mistaken it for their F-15 variant or just be wrong lol.

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joesnopes@reddit

Funnily enough, the MRJ wasn't. OTOH, the MU-300 became the Beechjet and Hawker 400 and has been very successful.

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CrouchingToaster@reddit

The MU 2 looks fun as hell to fly

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Kanyiko@reddit

MU2 is a killer plane.

No seriously, it's one of those planes where as a pilot you have to keep well ahead of the plane - get behind on it and chances are you won't live to tell the tale.

https://aviation-safety.net/asndb/type/MU2

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Gryphus1CZ@reddit

Well some of them smashed into ships

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plhought@reddit

They tried.

US regional juggernaut SkyWest even put a significant order for it.

Commerically - it was too late to the game.

From what industry insiders say - it was a phenomenal aircraft. But lack of robust production and support capacity that competing manufacturers like Bombardier and Embraer already had - made it fail.

Mitsubishi eventually bought Bombardier's CRJ program and supports the type to this day. But they have not manufactured new aircraft.

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sofixa11@reddit

They bought Bombardier's CRJ program to have access to the support network.

The bigger issue is that the plane wouldn't have been competitive, and still wasn't ready, so they decided to cut their losses.

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fzwo@reddit

That joke whooshed over peoples‘ heads like some sort of divine wind. Just couldn’t get the punchline to land.

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diggn64@reddit

They did. At least during WWII and in the 2000's

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eternalshackleford@reddit

So what happened? Did their sales nosedive? Was the aircraft division torpedoed?

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narwahlkiller@reddit

They kamikazied the idea.

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karabuka@reddit

Sounds more like they were swept away by the divine wind

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GITS75@reddit

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is involved with Italian and UK counterparts in their next gen fighter program. But they're still maintaining/upgrading JSDF F-15J, F-2, UH-60J, SH-60J...

As for civy aviation.They are maintaining CRJ but since they halted production.... Nothing new since.

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ZappBrannigansLaw@reddit

Their sales plummeted to zero

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NotCook59@reddit

I see what you did there 🙄

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bootstrapping_lad@reddit

That is the joke

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BannedAgain-573@reddit

Pretty sure Mitsubishi still makes their version of the F16, whatever that's called..

F2?

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randamm@reddit

The Mitsubishi MU-2 is a badass airplane. I only ever saw it flying once but I’ll never forget it. The thing is like a flying katana and just sounds absolutely like a boss. I hope I get to see one again some day.

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Majakowski@reddit

But isn't a Katana already a flying Katana?

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cyberentomology@reddit

Don’t go looking up who now owns the type certificate for the CRJs.

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funkmon@reddit

That's what I was thinking. Mitsubishi owns the CRJs lol

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refl8ct0r@reddit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_SpaceJet but they do..

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nasadowsk@reddit

Take my upvote, you bastard!

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Fireside__@reddit

I mean they certainly were a smash hit into US ships +80 years ago

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AlarmDozer@reddit

Last ride in a CRJ-900, the safety guide said Mitsubishi.

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bootstrapping_lad@reddit

🥁

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ajyanesp@reddit

Well, Mitsubishi planes DID smash in WWII.

Against ships, but they smashed.

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bootstrapping_lad@reddit

And that's the joke

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eatwithchopsticks@reddit

Mitsubishi is already involved with rockets/spaceflight.

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hgwelz@reddit

They made the Mitsubishi MU-2 and the SpaceJet. The MU-2 has a reputation as a smash hit.

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Babna_123@reddit

zero

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navigationallyaided@reddit

You got Mitsubishi parts in a modern Airbus or Boeing plane.

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EvieGHJ@reddit

The wind on those planes would be divine.

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RIPDaug2019-2019@reddit

I’d be surprised, especially if I found out on a sunday in December.

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oalfonso@reddit

Jaguar Land Rover. Overpriced and catastrophic engine failures with no warnings.

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Nkechinyerembi@reddit

I mean, if you fly on a plane built by a company called "land rover" that's sorta on you.

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taint_tattoo@reddit

Didn't Dodge and Chevrolet both build airplane engines during WW2?

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Tiny-Ask-7100@reddit

You know what car company wouldn't make a bad plane? SAAB.

JAS 39 Gripen looks solid.

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Kanyiko@reddit

Technically SAAB is an aircraft factory (SAAB AB, 1937) that started building cars (Saab Automobile AB, 1945).

And then stopped building cars (Saab Automobile AB went bankrupt in 2016).

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Gripe@reddit

what car manufacturers have dabbled in planes? Saab, Opel/Vauxhall, Honda, Mitsubishi, BMW, Mercedes, FIAT, Peugeot, Renault, Audi, Alfa Romeo at least

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Doc_Hank@reddit

Anything Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep

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atropear@reddit

A lemon lawyer told me Range Rover paid for the education of his children.

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Doc_Hank@reddit

And since Tata took over they've improved!

Still suck just not as much

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joesnopes@reddit

Ahh, Rover. They made early gas turbines but did so badly the government made Rolls-Royce take over the jet engine and give Rover a tank factory in exchange.

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SpiritualAd8998@reddit

Yugo

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OOOLiC_ONE@reddit

Vauxhall/Opel 🙈

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ChuckSRQ@reddit

Ones I would least trust. Land Rover Jaguar BMW Nissan Buick

Ones I would most trust. Toyota/Lexus Honda/Acura Hyundai

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benhornigold@reddit

You might want to look up the origin of BMW's logo, friend.

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ChuckSRQ@reddit

BMW hasn’t made planes in 80 years. Have you see. How complicated their cars and how expensive repairs are?

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eswifttng@reddit

It’s the Bayern flag?

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njsullyalex@reddit

Uhh about BMW

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cyberentomology@reddit

Their logo is literally a spinning propeller

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joesnopes@reddit

Yes. Began making aero engines in WW1. Still making jet engines - the Boeing 717. The factory where early rotaries were made in Oberursel is now a BMW factory.

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cyberentomology@reddit

Nobody is making jet engines for the B717. BMW dropped out of their involvement with RR way back in 1999.

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GITS75@reddit

Hyundai... A bit tricky cause which was Hyundai Space and Aircraft partnered with other companies to become Korean Aerospace Industries (from GA KC-100 to the T-50/FA-50). Even if totally absorbed by KAI. In a sense we can say Hyundai is still making planes.

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GITS75@reddit

So they lost their Air and Space subdivision to make an eVTOL one. Well it's still a niche. And until it can carry more passengers/cargo, have better autonomy, reliability (lithium bat)... It won't be accessible to many people (ja oka early aviation was a bit the same).

And apparently they halted ops this year... Not very encouraging.

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cyberentomology@reddit

They halted ops for personnel reasons rather than technical ones.

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GITS75@reddit

Personnel reasons... When the CEO and CTO left. That's not a thing investors want to see...

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I_Eat_Spaghettis@reddit

You had me until you said Hyundai

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GITS75@reddit

Why? Hyundai Air and Space subdivision became a part of KAI which made KC-100, KF-16, T-50/FA-50, KF-21

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BannedAgain-573@reddit

Well now we know where the budget goes

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GITS75@reddit

Well N.Korea doesn't make it easy on them. And frankly I would worry a bit if I had such stable ally like the US.

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Immediate-Season4544@reddit

They also make KIA?

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ghjm@reddit

What Hyundai have you owned?

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

I think Jag plane would be badass at first but after a year of flying it'll be super expensive to maintain and every part would need to be replaced

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chateau86@reddit

Sounds like every single turbocharged pistonprop twin ever.

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Duckbilling2@reddit

please explain Hyundai

the car company that had faulty engines from 2011-2022

and before 2011 as well.

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upbeatelk2622@reddit

Since Honda does make the HondaJet and it's not hypothetical in their case

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SheaStadium1986@reddit

Jeep and everything Stellantis

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liverdawg@reddit

Anything Kia or Stellantis

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Guardsred70@reddit

Nissan.

What’s the Altima of the skies?

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ZealousidealSpend397@reddit

CRJ 200

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ZCEyPFOYr0MWyHDQJZO4@reddit

Frequent flyers often refer to the model as the "Devil's chariot" due to its cramped layout and windows well below most passengers' line of sight.

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ghjm@reddit

Nobody calls it that, because that name is somewhat cool, like it could be the name of a heavy metal band. The CRJ200 is whatever the opposite of that is. Like, someone who aspires to be Herb Alpert but doesn't sell as many records.

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braided--asshair@reddit

It’s called The Duece

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ZealousidealSpend397@reddit

Yup this is what we called it! Thankfully called it, I’m off that sucker for the last 4 years

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nasadowsk@reddit

Herb Alpert's albums these days seem corny as hell, but he sold a fuckton of them, and built quite a record label out of them.

And honestly, a few of them are pretty good.

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ghjm@reddit

Why do you think I qualified that with not selling as many records? Everyone's grandmother loved Herb Alpert. Everyone's grandmother does not love the CRJ200. Although I do have to admit that many airlines operating CRJ200s are profitable.

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clippervictor@reddit

Dash8 I’d say

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Guardsred70@reddit

Good call. Awful plane to ride in. Like a bad Uber.

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clippervictor@reddit

And awful plane to do maintenance on too, or so I am told

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drdremoo@reddit

Fucking Polestar. They'd be the most beautiful planes, great to fly, but they'd be plagued with software issues that get worse with each patch or fix applied.

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Rescueodie@reddit

JEEP! Which is sad considering their historical lineage.

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halcykhan@reddit

Makes complete sense when you consider Chrysler bought them out and managed to make the fucking XJ significantly less reliable just changing the head and interior

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Biggest fall off I've ever seen

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sanctjeve@reddit

Volkswagen or Audi.

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Long-Ad-6773@reddit

Any american brand

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RegionThat2020@reddit

Lada

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Remarkable_Spirit_68@reddit

Lada always has something broken, but that "something" never affects it's ability to move forvard :) Kind of the most unreliable and the most reliable car at the same time

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plhought@reddit

Thing is Soviet vehicle production isn't tooled like you think in North America. You can't really compare it to a homogeneous US "Brand".

Lada was just a design - many competing production bureaus and factories would produce it.

Lada is just a design bureau

Some vehicles coming out of x factory would be brilliant.

Some - out of other factory - not so much.

Quality varied very wildly across the same type.

Many of those Lada factories were dual-tooled and producing aircraft components and structures at the same time.

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Inevitable-Hat-3264@reddit

I read this in my head in a crappy Russian accent...

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JudgeWhoOverrules@reddit

The An-2 already exists

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Majakowski@reddit

Couple of years ago one of them near where I lived started to burn down (on the ground). They took away the burnt fabric, applied new fabric and now it flies again. Od course all within strict regulations (Germany).

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Starchaser_WoF@reddit

Don't insult the Colt like that

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Starchaser_WoF@reddit

Don't insult the Colt like that

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flowers-for-alderaan@reddit

I mean, it will be a complete piece of shit and you might die, but the plane will be fine.

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RegionThat2020@reddit

Lada cars suffer from low assembly automation and poor factory quality control, which is why they are of low reliability... I wouldn't want to fly on planes of the same quality. But yeah, the design of their latest models (such as the Lada Vesta, Aura, and Iskra) is quite good.

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Chance-Day323@reddit

The clear answer is Tesla, they can't even make doors that let you evacuate a car that has one door per person. Guaranteed death by fire. Not even close.

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Chronigan2@reddit

The answer is Saab, isn't it?

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Helpful-Chemistry-87@reddit

Odd choice. Saab are quite good at making planes. Their cars were good too when they made them themselves. I think the auto brand was sold to Ford in the 90's (might be wrong on that though)

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joesnopes@reddit

No. To GM. Who were totally flumoxxed by the organisation.

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Acc87@reddit

Saab is an aircraft manufacturer who for a while happened to build cars too.

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The_Canadian@reddit

They make good aircraft, though. The JAS 39 is pretty impressive.

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cport1@reddit

Saab does make planes and fighter jets

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tobascodagama@reddit

No way in hell I'm ever getting in a Tesla Cyberplane.

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Kanyiko@reddit

"But it's 100% bullet-proof!"

Takes up a steel ball...

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Majakowski@reddit

F-117

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TickTockPick@reddit

BMW.

Not because their planes would be bad, but because all ATC instructions would be simply ignored.

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joesnopes@reddit

The airframe would be great but the software would be unusable.

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navigationallyaided@reddit

Mercedes. Who was one of the partners of Airbus.

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Chago04@reddit

Mercedes engines are still fairly widely used in the experimental space. They’re pretty great little engines.

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joesnopes@reddit

Including the Thielert diesels? The FAA disagrees.

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braided--asshair@reddit

Diamond uses them on certified aircraft

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Chago04@reddit

Oh yeah, I knew someone was using them, couldn’t remember if it was LSA or Certified.

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Lone_Skull@reddit

If FAA certified and maintenance? Chrysler followed by GM With car regulations? Everyone except Toyota

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

I'll trust Japanese companies all day, cause I know the it might not be beautiful but it will be safe , affordable and reliable

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Jeatalong@reddit

But you would have to go with Mitsubishi for the legacy of course.

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joesnopes@reddit

Or Subaru. Same legacy.

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Chronigan2@reddit

Those three diamonds kinda look like a propeller, don't they?

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Starchaser_WoF@reddit

Can't unsee that now

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electriclux@reddit

Stellantis

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

Somebody really made a group and said Let's buy the shitiest car brands and make them worse

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joesnopes@reddit

The trouble is that when you're a shitty car manufacturer, only other shitty car companies are available.

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Griffie@reddit

Based on today’s cars, have to say a Jeep.

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f14tomcatenjoyer@reddit

insert any stellantis owned brand

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John97212@reddit

Mitsubishi.

Their planes had a lot of controlled flight into terrain incidents in 1944-45.

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Kanyiko@reddit

Some pilots still keep traditions going.

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cyberentomology@reddit

It was more than Zero

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QuaintAlex126@reddit

I knew a girl who flew em

Her name was Betty

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ChainsawSnuggling@reddit

I knew a gal named Val.

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Kanyiko@reddit

Val was a girl from Aichi.

The girls you're thinking of are Nell, Betty, Topsy, Babs, Ann, Dinah, Eva and Louise, Jane, Mabel, Sally and Sandy, Sonia and Tina.

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Borstolus@reddit

You cannot blame the aircraft for controlled flight into terrain.

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funkmon@reddit

Guess what company owns the CRJ regional jets

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JMoc1@reddit

They make the F1 and F2, some of the best jets outside the US.

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BlackSC2us@reddit

Sir, we've designed an almost perfect aircraft. It's fast, nimble, light, easy to manufacture, and has a heavy armament.

You said almost perfect.

Oh, yes. We left out the armor for the pilot and self-sealing fuel tanks. If they get hit at all by enemy fire, it's nearly always fatal.

Well, if they're going to crash and burn anyway, have them crash strategically.

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BannedAgain-573@reddit

They make one of the best Jets in the sky. The f2

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AceNova2217@reddit

Land Rover

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1202burner@reddit

As a Mopar guy, I'm going with Chrysler even though Dodge used to make military trucks decades ago. They started off making machinery parts and then military trucks, but that's when John and Horace were still alive. That ain't Mopar anymore.

My newest Mopar product is a 2005 Ram, the next newest vehicles are 91 and 92 Wranglers.

I don't trust anything from the FCA era. I sure as fuck wouldn't trust anything aviation related made by them today.

I can only imagine the shit show if Jeep tried to compete in the bush plane market. Piper would shit its shorts laughing.

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solocmv@reddit

Ford

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Max_Endowmant@reddit

Let's flip it round. Who would buy an Airbus SUV

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eswifttng@reddit

That would be a Toyota? Something unassuming that just does the job every time.

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Max_Endowmant@reddit

Well the sidestick would take a bit of getting used to

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40percentCheese@reddit

Wouldn't that be a Landbus?

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Max_Endowmant@reddit

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CySnark@reddit

Canyonero 380

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BigBL87@reddit

I'd sure as hell buy one over anything Boeing as of late...

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JustPlaneNew@reddit

I want a Chevrolet plane

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pfnkis@reddit

Tesla

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Spran02@reddit

BYD or some other chinese car brand lol

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Usernamenotta@reddit

Lada. Dacia. Suzuki. Peugeot Anything the Italian non luxury brands are doing

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Primary-Eye-1793@reddit

Nissan:

They already hit things randomly on the ground. I cannot imagine them in the sky.

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That70sShop@reddit

Stellantjs.

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ImperatorDanorum@reddit

Anything French...

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ussoriskany34@reddit

Definitely Jeep

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8ackwoods@reddit

Any american manufacturer

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Novel_Manager6290@reddit

Hyundai/kia

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hopfot@reddit

Tesla, next question.

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navigationallyaided@reddit

Also, the Airbus A320ceo/neo series is the Prius of the skies.

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philwjan@reddit

Tesla

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Kanyiko@reddit

Tesla would definitely top that list.

They'd build something that would be over-engineered yet wildly impractical; hyper-'advanced' yet incredibly unreliable; and they'd try to build 'something new' foregoing the lessons of a century of aviation. And it would probably be riddled with all kinds of flaws, mistakes and single-point failures.

Basically the Stockton Rush school of engineering.

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katzengoldgott@reddit

Tesla plane that refuses to open the doors while on the ground when there is a fire detected inside the plane… 😬

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Enough-Meaning1514@reddit

Anything from Stellantis.

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blurfgh@reddit

Stellantis (Chrysler jeep dodge ram) and it’s not even CLOSE

French business savvy and electronics engineering combined with American quality control means DEATH

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Ndawson96@reddit

You forgot Fiat under the Stellantis name

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fzwo@reddit

And Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Opel, Vauxhall, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Maserati, Abarth and Mopar.

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juanmlm@reddit

Peugeot is great

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HullIsNotThatBad@reddit

Landrover/Jaguar

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TheSpannerer@reddit

Renault

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Least_Design_7295@reddit

Reading comments I came to conclusion that if it's Toyota - I fly.

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guidomescalito@reddit

Tesla Full Self Flying (aka basic autopilot)

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DeOptimist@reddit

Lada

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Ordinary-Rain-6897@reddit

jeep

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ButtRockSteve@reddit

Anything Stelantis.

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fytipimu@reddit

Boeing... Oh, wait...

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Quin1617@reddit

All of them except Toyota and Mazda. With Chrysler being at the top of my list.

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WeloveSam2014@reddit

Anything Tesla.

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crawdadicus@reddit

Anything even remotely related to Chrysler

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jcpham@reddit

Mazda

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lavafish80@reddit

Chrysler

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Goodman4525@reddit

Ford

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Infinite-Condition41@reddit

We have numbers for this stuff.

It's Chrysler Dodge Jeep etc., hands down.

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CurrentlyatBDC@reddit

FIAT, JLR, Tesla. Nope, no way, NEVER.

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Echo017@reddit

Chevy would make world class 4 engine transports and bombers, an high performance to value ratio interceptor and everything else would be a dumpster fire.

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FoxBeeHen97@reddit

Kia

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Ok_Independent_7553@reddit

Agreed, going to war in a vehicle with a military acronym that means Killed In Action is a bold move.

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nasadowsk@reddit

IIRC, they OEM'd parts for the M35A2 until recently.

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1060nm@reddit

It will fly fine, but it will get stolen the first time you leave it unattended

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FoxBeeHen97@reddit

No, the timing belt will fall off at 40k miles and the interference engine will self destruct

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Youngstown_WuTang@reddit (OP)

All mid-flight btw lol

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wileysegovia@reddit

Lulz, even

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Mediocre_Gur9159@reddit

It will lite on fire.

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malongoria@reddit

And/or you personal information, including your name & social security number, will also get stolen

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Psytrancedude99@reddit

Land Rover.

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nl_Kapparrian@reddit

Nissan

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Mollywisk@reddit

Tesla

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Tomato_Head120@reddit

MG or GWM

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InfiniteAVD@reddit

Tesla

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Scooney92@reddit

Yugo

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AutomicCurves@reddit

Ford, Chevy, Tesla, Jeep, Saturn, Chrysler, Dodge... If it touched the US, I'd stay away.

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TheSmokedPotatoe@reddit

MG

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Jeffkin15@reddit

Maserati and Land Rover

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MagicTrachea52@reddit

Hyundai.

I don't want to fly on a plane that begins to fail after 35k.

My friend's Hyundai just sheds parts. Every time I see them, a new part has fallen off. I'm constantly seeing them coming towards me, holding the part in the air and yelling my name like a toddler who broke the TV remote.

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cluckay@reddit

Any American company.

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new_x_who_dis@reddit

It's a tie between, anything in the Stellantis group and Mercedes

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lotsofhatemail@reddit

Jeep

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Murfinator@reddit

Tesla

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JasonShoes@reddit

Chrysler

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boanerges57@reddit

I barely trust the plane companies these days

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Bimlouhay83@reddit

Alfa Rameo and Jaguar would be 100% no fly.

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FluffusMaximus@reddit

Tesla. 100%.

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WolfofMichiganAve@reddit

Anything by Stellantis - I wouldnt trust it

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Key-Monk6159@reddit

None. Planes today aren’t in the same universe as those during WW2.

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BannedAgain-573@reddit

Id anything a Cars are trying to be more rocket ship then transportation now

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flickerdown@reddit

Tesla. Not even close.

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BahutF1@reddit

Well, would i buy a Boeing if they make cars curently...

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Raguleader@reddit

They used to make trains. Fun fact.

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navigationallyaided@reddit

Every Boeing 777/777X and 787 has a little Subaru in it.

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LateralThinkerer@reddit

I was going to say "anything made by Yugo" but as it turns out, Yugoslavia had/has an interesting past, some of which were pretty interesting, others comical:

https://hushkit.net/2023/06/02/top-10-yugoslavian-aircraft/

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