I'm not crying, you're crying...

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douggold11@reddit

A great scene. I just wish paramount over the years had the guts to respect this old style instead of redesigning it and pretending it looked different

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They tried, I think. DS9: "Trials and Tribble-ations" they tried to pass it off as "Classic 23rd century design" (Dax) as if what's old could be new again but though they could do it for an episode for nostalgia purposes, I don't think most people would watch SNW in that style. Refreshing it in a way that respects many of the highlights of that design while making it still look futuristic by our standards was a smart move IMHO. I liked that recently they did a SNW with the opening scene in that style.

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PizzaWhole9323@reddit

In the relics novelization, there's a whole setup to the Picard meeting where Scotty gets to do a holodeck recreation of the TOs crew let's say about season 2. All chatting together. It makes this seem so much more melancholy and poignant. Stop making our Scotty sad Star Trek! ;-)

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CoupleKnown7729@reddit

...pardon, there's a novelization?!

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Leopold_Darkworth@reddit

And I believe Doohan recorded the audio book.

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CodAppropriate6109@reddit

Thank you for this. Here's the link for anyone looking for it.

Listen to STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: RELICS by Michael Jan Friedman, LeVar Burton - introduction on Audible. https://www.audible.com/pd/B00E0Q6T7I?source_code=ASSORAP0511160007

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PizzaWhole9323@reddit

Yes he did. You might be able to find the audiobook on Spotify.

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doc_birdman@reddit

Here is the Spotify link to the audiobook for those interested. Narrated by James Doohan and LeVar Burton.

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PizzaWhole9323@reddit

You know, since my divorce I haven't been down enough Star Trek rabbit holes. This Thanksgiving Mr Pizza is going to remedy that. Thank you for the link.

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Primatech2006@reddit

$14 for a 2 hr and 13 minute audiobook. Yeesh.

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Vindartn@reddit

I feel like the empty bridge was better imo. It gave him the familiarity he was looking for while still keeping him rooted in the present. Maybe I'm older but the idea of him recreating his friends would be less emotional and more creepy/weird and would have ruined the moment for me.

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BootyWhiteMan@reddit

I think for Scotty it would have made more sense for him to choose the engine room, but the bridge is more nostalgic for the fans.

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paladinBoyd@reddit

Its also where his friends were stationed, friends who are long dead.

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CodAppropriate6109@reddit

"Here's to you, lads." - Scotty

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aaron15287@reddit

spock was still alive and mcoy may have been he was still alive in s1 of tng at least. kirk was also still sort of alive although stuck in the nexus.

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QualifiedApathetic@reddit

He probably did get to see Spock, who brought his transwarp equations to the Kelvin timeline.

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ArcherAprilPikeKirk@reddit

That makes me happy

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BootyWhiteMan@reddit

Good point.

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dr-stuff-ak-619@reddit

He played this scene beautifully. I could have listened to him and Picard for another 10 min

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PizzaWhole9323@reddit

I know right. I just I think the cards early formative years pre-star gazer set him up really well for kind of understanding where Scotty jumped off timeline wise. I would really love it if we could have gotten another half hour even of them trading ship stories.

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CodAppropriate6109@reddit

I learned this week that Patrick often would call Rick Berman at night to go over his lines and make subtle changes to make sure he could respect the essence of the character. This was one of the many scenes where Picard's character is delivered so naturally that we forget that he's "just a character on a TV show." Look at most other TV shows and they are a mildly entertaining way to sell advertising space (face it, that's the whole point of TV shows!) but Patrick Stewart's interpretation of Picard makes it so believable that we think we are seeing the genuine article.

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dr-stuff-ak-619@reddit

For sure! One of the few characters where you hear reverence in Picard’s voice.

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1kfaces@reddit

Agreed. The first time I saw the episode I couldn’t understand why Scott was being so stubborn but as I get older I began to understand what kind of psychological blow it would be to wake up out of a transporter buffer and find that not only have a couple hundred years passed in an instant, but your entire career’s worth of technical experience has been rendered obsolete through no fault of anyone other than time itself.

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Tacitus111@reddit

I get both ends of it. You detail Scotty’s end really well, and I agree, but honesty, Scotty would have had the same eroding patience if Trip Tucker from NX-01 appeared and kept telling him critical disasters were happening and constantly derailed him from an important project. Geordi actually offered to give him a tour and show him the D’s tech, but Scotty wouldn’t accept that. Like Geordi said he needed an hour to get his project done, and Scotty wouldn’t even give him that.

People (save the ensign who showed him his quarters) weren’t really being dismissive of him, they were much trying to do their jobs.

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ComesInAnOldBox@reddit

75 years, not a couple of hundred.

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Hopsblues@reddit

easy for you to say, you weren't stuck in the teleport...

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ValosAtredum@reddit

Oh man, I was 100% on Team Scotty when I watched it as a kid when it first aired. I was so angry at everyone being so dismissive of him and just wanted to go give him a hug.

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dr-stuff-ak-619@reddit

As a kid? That’s cool, you sound empathetic and kind!

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ValosAtredum@reddit

Thank you! It’s lovely to hear that. 🙂

I double checked the air date for it and yeah, I was 10 years old. I very strongly remember sitting on our living room floor and watching that specific episode because I was so sad for Scotty. I remember thinking how sad and scary it had to be to suddenly be thrown into the future when you had been a genius engineer and suddenly your knowledge is outdated and everyone is so dismissive of you.

I loved the TNG characters but was so angry at them for being so mean, even if they didn’t realize it.

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dr-stuff-ak-619@reddit

Geordi was especially disappointing — you’re better than that Lt Cmdr!

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dr-stuff-ak-619@reddit

Same! I was still a big Scotty fan as a kid, and sided with him. But i didnt understand the stubbornness and bitterness. But now, as a middle aged adult, i get it. Esp having walked out of my childhood home for the last time after selling it after my parents were gone, i feel this bridge scene (not 1:1 same of course, but close enough).

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Planet_Manhattan@reddit (OP)

he was so good in this entire episode

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CPTKickass@reddit

Computer….

Shut this bloody thing off

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Drake_the_troll@reddit

"How fast does she go?"

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Hullaba-Loo@reddit

James Doohan was my great uncle and because of various family dramas I only got to meet him once. I love this episode so much. I know he's just playing a part but he plays it with so much emotion it feels like a real connection we might have had in another version of the world where we'd gotten to know each other.

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LininOhio@reddit

"Empty chairs at empty tables, now my friends are dead and gone ..."

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Cultural-Ocelot-3692@reddit

“There’s a grief that can’t be spoken…”

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Drake_the_troll@reddit

"Theres a pain goes on and on

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N0rmNormis0n@reddit

I was a kid when TNG came out and this scene still hits hard. Can’t imagine what it was like if you grew up watching the original series watching this one for the first time

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FlopShanoobie@reddit

The older I get, the harder this episode hits.

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Planet_Manhattan@reddit (OP)

Agree....I'm almost 50, and I don't remember feeling this emotional while watching this episode before 🥺

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59Kia@reddit

I love this scene so much. Might have to watch the episode again later 👍

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FudgeYourOpinionMan@reddit

We are further away in time from Enterprise than they were from TOS back then.

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Lopsided_Chain1210@reddit

It’s just been raining on my face/ And if you see some tear tracks down my cheeks/ Please, please…don’t tell my mates.

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machacker89@reddit

he is one of my favorites!! Along with Spock, Sulu, Kirk

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ThePrisonSoap@reddit

Just watched this episode a few days ago, it's amazing

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Ok_Truth_6007@reddit

“There comes a time when a man finds that he can't fall in love again. He knows that it's time to stop” is one of the best lines in the entire series

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RedditOfUnusualSize@reddit

"Here's to ya, lads."

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Planet_Manhattan@reddit (OP)

bring the bottle with the green drink 😁

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Randy-Waterhouse@reddit

Aldebaran whiskey!

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dr-stuff-ak-619@reddit

It’s. It’s green

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AcidaliaPlanitia@reddit

I feel like the sheer intensity Picard uses while saying that phrase buys him a lot of credit with Scotty.

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tommytraddles@reddit

The fact that it didn't immediately knock him on his ass is what did it.

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Marquar234@reddit

I think being the one who gave it to Guinan bought him a lot too.

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Greedy_Section2894@reddit

Who do you think gave it to Guinan?

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SodaGrump@reddit

Gets me every time

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MarcusAurelius68@reddit

This line really hit me when I saw this episode the first time in 1992.

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CoupleKnown7729@reddit

Watching that? I can't help but see my grandfather going to unit reunions and there being fewer, and fewer of 'em left.

He died fifteen years ago (man was almost 90.)

But the amount of heartache Doohan invested in that scene.

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lavahot@reddit

Even for the 90s, Scott sure does equate everything to being with a woman. It's weird. And they just leave the Klingon racism be. They set it up at the start, they acknowledge it at the end, but they dont do anything with it. At the end they give him a shuttle and prompt him to gtfo.

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SweaterUndulations@reddit

I've always wondered how Scotty dealt with it, leaving alone in a shuttle.

I hope he at least had an EMH to keep him company.

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