Why did the “Free Tibet” movement of the 90s die out?
Posted by Mission_Spray@reddit | Xennials | View on Reddit | 224 comments
I remember seeing “Free Tibet” signs everywhere as a kid. I also remember a lot of benefit concerts during that time to fund the movement.
But now? Nothing.
Tibet still isn’t free, so what happened? Is it no longer the “cool” movement to support?
corkandcronin@reddit
With the death of, MCA, so died all momentum. If we don’t have a “cool’ figurehead to champion what’s truly good in the world, we focus on ballrooms and Gaza lago and how sad the epic struggle for freedom and sovereignty and democracy in Ukraine is… our pool of the next avant gardes is slim and none… slim left town
SpaceAdventures3D@reddit
I recall the Dalai Lama said Tibet could not stand independently anymore after so many decades of being under Chinese control. What he advocates for is freedom of religion within Tibet and for exiles to have the right to return.
sup_reddit@reddit
Yeah this is a big part of it. In the nineties he was writing best sellers and was one of the most widely known and recognized people in the world. So the movement was supporting him personally to some degree but when his goals shifted away from independence the movement kinda died out. That’s how I remember it anyway. Could be wrong.
WaitUntilTheHighway@reddit
This is cynical but I think also correct-- there were not that many "big" problems that Americans were focused on in the '90s, to be totally frank (yes there should have been), which allowed American youth to sort of hop onto bandwagons like Free Tibet. THEN 9/11 happened and a bunch of actual terrible shit that America was involved in started going down, and hasn't stopped since.
home_rechre@reddit
Partly that, but mostly it’s because China became too powerful for people to continue with the Free Tibet movement.
Scorsese made Kundun in 1997 with Disney and it’s essentially been memory holed. Even a corporation the size of Disney is afraid to acknowledge its existence. And without big backing—from media, universities, governments, etc.—it fizzled out.
Canuckr82@reddit
Ya look what happened with the NBA, they were too scared of losing china revenue that they tried to censor a guy bringing awareness about how horrible china is.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/26/football/enes-kanter-nike-china-protest-spt-intl
Drilling4Oil@reddit
Exactly this.
patrick_BOOTH@reddit
I actually had a discussion with co-workers about this very topic. All we could come up with is the Israel / Palestine conflict taking up more of the airwaves.
mcfetrja@reddit
Adam Yauch died in 2012 and with him the dream of a free Tibet.
pragmaticweirdo@reddit
It’s funny because before I even opened the comments I was like “MCA died.”
HeywoodJaBlessMe@reddit
Same.
I'm convinced the Chinese government had a hand in him developing the world's weirdest cancer
gilligan1050@reddit
Now this is a conspiracy!
palmerry@reddit
Ok-Moment2223@reddit
Same
gilligan1050@reddit
Adam Yauch was a Bohdisattva. 🧡☸️
benjamin_noah@reddit
Exactly. I saw the Beastie Boys (with A Tribe Called Quest) in 1998. They literally had Tibetan monks in the arena handing out “Free Tibet” pamphlets during whole concert. The movement — at least in the US — died with MCA.
_1JackMove@reddit
Damn what a show. They don’t make em like that anymore.
urbanlife78@reddit
I got to meet them when they did a private show in Portland a few years before he died. They were all cool guys to talk to and I am still kicking myself for not going to the show because I had something in college I couldn't miss that I should have missed
FungiStudent@reddit
Damn
HAL_9OOO_@reddit
MCA was pretty awesome. The government of China is significantly more powerful. There was and is a 0% chance of China giving it true independence.
Rough--Employment@reddit
He really was the engine behind so much of that momentum.
Mission_Spray@reddit (OP)
It’s already been over 13 years since he died? Damn.
Rich_Text82@reddit
Richard Gere is still holding the movement down apparently.
Mission_Spray@reddit (OP)
Well, at least he’s consistent.
originalxnuttah@reddit
To make way for the Free Taiwan movement
Door_Number_Four@reddit
9/11 happened
Free Tibet was there because…..the US didn’t really have an enemy to unite around or do use energies on.
9/11 changed that…and China also made it a condition for supporting our invasion of Afghanistan. We bombed the crap out of there, and we turn a bling eye to what the Red Han do in Tibet and to the Uighur populations
heyitscory@reddit
I always thought Fetty Wap should have a bling eye so he didn't have to keep it scrunched closed all the time.
Typical-Assist2899@reddit
Short form? Psyops only last as long as they’re useful.
psilosophist@reddit
The CIA got a little busy in the early 2000s so certain things got deprioritized.
Tibet was taken over by China, but when it was “free” it was a hereditary monarchy heavily dependent on slave labor. It’s not like it was a beacon for democracy in Asia or anything, but it is strategically an important place.
giantflyingspider@reddit
wasn’t there pictures of the dali llama doing questionable shit with kids too, on top of the slavery stuff
burf@reddit
The only story I remember was him jokingly telling a kid to suck his tongue or something, which is a common Tibetan idiom that a bunch of westerners took wildly out of context.
giantflyingspider@reddit
jokingly? there was kissing and video
burf@reddit
https://www.vice.com/en/article/tibetans-explain-what-suck-my-tongue-means-dalai-lama-viral-video/
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
If you can find them, link it.
Pure-Juggernaut-9430@reddit
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/10/india/dalai-lama-apology-kissing-boy-video-intl-hnk
Also, If I said the Dalai Lama owned slaves I would only be slightly lying because serfdom under a theocracy is only slightly less bad than chattel slavery. No one is paying me to say this shit, unlike the Dalai Lama who was literally being paid by the CIA.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
This? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bT0qey5Ts78&pp=ygUjc3RvcCBzZW5zYXRpb25hbGl6aW5nIHRoZSBkYWFpIGxhbWHSBwkJHgGjtWo3m0M%3D
Serfdom in Tibet wasn’t anything like slavery. That really shows a lack of understanding of what it was like.
Nor was the Dalai Lama paid by the cia to talk or promote anything..
Splashxz79@reddit
It was also only "free" for 40 years. People act like Tibet wasn't basically already controlled by China before Columbus ever set foot in America.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Tibet wasn’t in china’s sphere before..
Splashxz79@reddit
It has been literally part of the various Chinrse and Mongol Empires for close to a millenium.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Except it hasn’t been. Go learn the basic history at the very least.
Splashxz79@reddit
You can do the same, start with Wikipedia and the Qing dynasty or something it's low hanging fruit.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
The Qing who were Manchus and not Chinese who had Tibet as a vassal and purposely kept and administered Tibet separately from China?
Oops.
Splashxz79@reddit
The Manchus are a Chinese ethnic group what are you on about? And in what universe is a vassal not part of an empire? This is such a ridiculously typical Reddit conversation.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Not at the time of the Qing. They were foreign invaders who conquered China. This notion of Chinese being this multiethnic and a nationalistic identity is a 20th century construct.
Who said or implied a vassal isn’t part of an empire?
Splashxz79@reddit
Manchuria has been part of China since the 14th century Ming dynasty. This is pointless.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Certainly not all of it and certainly not where the Manchus invaders came from. Your ahistorical revisionism won’t work here as this is what I study.
When did I? Point it out and quote me.
Splashxz79@reddit
Get your money back, your reasonings are so extremely contrived I am afraid you are the one being indoctrinated.
The only revisionism here is the one done by you and the broadly acknowledged one done by the Qing dynasty, but I hope you will get to that topic in due time.
This is however also completely irrelevant to my original point on Tibet and China, which has by now been buried by your of topic rambling.
I'm bowing out before I have to reply to more junior year Googled nonsense.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
You literally have zero rebuttal or argument.
It absolutely isn’t irrelevant from China. Your argument of China being a part of china influence/sphere during the Qing completely fell apart.
Splashxz79@reddit
Sure, and Nurhaci didn't grow up in Fushan , or was in the Ming military and the Jianzhou Jurchens were never ruled by China.
You haven't been able to provide anything but your personal feelings on the subject but an F+ for effort anyway.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Can you explain how that makes him Chinese? Or can all you do is read Wikipedia and think you have any sort of argument?
You need sources on basic history?
_awk_girl_ward_@reddit
This answer should be way higher up. It's been confirmed that the Dalai Llama was paid by the CIA to keep the nation of "Free Tibet" going.
Drilling4Oil@reddit
Careful, in Reddit-verse there's a pervasive-table of characters/events which one can't push back against or else over empowered individuals will squash your existence entirely. Some say it's all a big conspiracy or something. Luckily, we have the internet these days. Er, wait, wha-*disappears*
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
There wasn’t slavery in Tibet.
Why does it matter what Tibet was like? What is Tibet like now?
ATheeStallion@reddit
There absolutely was slavery in Tibet. Go read historic accounts. Also women don’t exactly have equality or options there.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Then it should be able to back up.
I study this topic. So prove me wrong. How did women not have equality or options there compared to other places?
Critical-Snow-7000@reddit
I can’t help but think you’re being paid to post this drivel.
dallyan@reddit
The old hippies where I live are still keeping it alive.
helikophis@reddit
China won.
DandyLionsInSiberia@reddit
The Free Tibet movement in the 1990s became a kind of all-hands moment for the alternative music world. The Beastie Boys were the driving force behind the Tibetan Freedom Concerts, and they pulled in a huge range of artists: R.E.M., Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Bjork, U2, Alanis Morissette, Blur, Foo Fighters, Fugees, No Doubt, Pavement and plenty of others. For a few years, supporting Tibet was almost a standard badge of honor for bands who wanted to be seen as politically aware and culturally plugged in.
The whole thing felt massive at the time, with stadium crowds, nonstop press attention, and a sense that music could genuinely shift the conversation. But once China became a major global economic power, governments and corporations grew quieter about Tibet, and public attention shifted to newer problems. The star-powered momentum faded, and the movement lost the visibility it briefly had.
In short, it is a grim little truth of modern virtue that every cause comes with an expiry date. The public grows bored, then irritated, then outright suspicious if something dares to linger past its moment. So along comes the next shiny emergency, the latest glittering moral bauble, and suddenly everyone is shrieking about that instead. Righteousness is a carousel, and the masses never miss their chance to climb onto the newest, noisiest horse..
Mattimvs@reddit
KONY2012
goater10@reddit
Did they ever find Kony?
Mattimvs@reddit
He's still out there.
Kony2026
samwise58@reddit
Be careful or you’ll end up naked, jackin it in San Diego!!!
Whackity-smackity Smackity-Smack!!!
TragicHedgehog@reddit
Off topic, but the first time I saw this episode and heard the “Jackin’ It” song, I literally, not figuratively, came within second of pissing myself laughing. I don’t laugh easily but that song and the visuals just got me.
SatansFriendlyCat@reddit
This phrasing (especially in the context of the song) leaves available the interpretation that you pissed yourself laughing, and then immediately came., or the other way around.
This image is extra hilarious.
TragicHedgehog@reddit
Omfg you’re right lmao. To clarify, I was nearly in a situation where I urinated upon myself. At no time did I experience orgasm from this. But to read my own awkward wording pointed out the moment I woke up and laugh out loud was a great way to start my day.
SatansFriendlyCat@reddit
😂 Magnificent!
GarminTamzarian@reddit
No_Vacation369@reddit
Nah they just recently kidnapped a bunch of girls again in northern Nigeria.
TijayesPJs443@reddit
King of New York?
mischievous_misfit13@reddit
I let the anti-kony peeps do a whole speil at the coffee shop I managed when this whole thing started. I’m pretty sure it was 2009-2010 ish. Wild that we were part of the trend but we were also a third space coffee shop where all sorts of people hung out so we could experienced some cool events.
SeasonPositive6771@reddit
Coincidentally, there's news about him from this month.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg430z7dg04o
Future-Raisin3781@reddit
yolo
theshub@reddit
I still rock my Free Tibet shirt.
FreddyNoodles@reddit
Someone gave me a shirt that said
^with ^the ^purchase ^of ^one ^Tibet ^of ^equal ^or ^greater ^value
SweatySauce@reddit
I have this shirt and love it.
arcxjo@reddit
Hello, China? I have something you may want ... but it's gonna cost you.
That's right ... all the tea.
WiseDirt@reddit
IAm5toned@reddit
whoever gave you that shirt is cool
FreddyNoodles@reddit
My bf. About 12 years ago
mutantbabysnort@reddit
I remember that one. I think it was from busted tees.
Here’s what it looked like: https://ronstauffer.com/blog/my-favorite-t-shirt-free-tibet/
FreddyNoodles@reddit
Mine was yellow and faded like a vintage t-shirt.
__ohno_notagain__@reddit
So, China takes Tibet and Burma, we should get Tibet back? Or we got ‘Myanmar’ instead? /s
SupermarketFeeling51@reddit
I still have this shirt
gibson85@reddit
I’ll take one!
HAL_9OOO_@reddit
Tell your shirt to try harder.
epidemicsaints@reddit
Leonard Peltier was released to house arrest at least.
holymole1234@reddit
They never did Free Mumia, though.
CMarlowe@reddit
We only have a certain amount of emotional capital. The '90s were a happier time. It was a lot easier to find a job, keep a job, buy a house, car, afford healthcare, etc. So there was in a very real way a lot of surplus emotional capital that could be channeled into issues like Free Tibet. Nowadays, people are worried about the fall of democracy right here at home, with the lack of ability to afford a home, and about a million other issues on top of that.
Greedy_Camp_5561@reddit
Nah, people are still going crazy about far away stuff, but Tibet isn't trending on TikTok, for... obvious reasons.
OddlyMingenuity@reddit
Also China is doing a massive astroturfing PR campaign on social medias. It's candyland on every platform.
dcphoto78@reddit
I’ve been noticing the same thing and wondering why it hasn’t come up more in discussions.
OddlyMingenuity@reddit
At least it's positive whitewashing. It's a refreshing stance compared to the russians and the israelis campaigns drenched in pure hate and violence.
SufficientlyRested@reddit
While all of that is true, the fact is, we lost. China moved Han Chinese into the reaction in a process called Sinoization. They now account for 12% of the population
https://www.niussp.org/migration-and-foreigners/han-chinese-population-shares-in-tibet-early-insights-from-the-2020-census-of-china/
brodievonorchard@reddit
Also, more recently was the movement to support Hong Kong, and that didn't seem to make a dent. How do you go back to advocating for Tibet when you can't even help with more recent issues.
mycenae42@reddit
The Western world also now has very limited power. Force China to give up Tibet? We’re going to watch as they invade Taiwan.
Impressive-Potato@reddit
They won't have to invade Taiwan. Sentiment along younger Taiwanese is way more positive on the idea of becoming part of China compared to older generations.
Sad_Egg_5176@reddit
It’s a good theory but it doesn’t explain the whole Palestine thing
wildkatrose@reddit
So maybe, if we had freed Tibet....
nnulll@reddit
But then we wouldn’t have all this worthless plastic junk for low low prices
anpandulceman@reddit
Flashback to my Tibetan flag sticker sharing space on my coffee traveler mug with my Andre the giant sticker
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
From memory the Free Tibet movement lost a lot of momentum in the West at roughly the same time the countries we all live in launched a never-ending global war that tore up all the rules of international conflict and makes China's actions in Tibet look almost cute by comparison.
HeywoodJaBlessMe@reddit
Meanwhile, that war is over and China remains in possession of Tibet. I bet the women of Kabul wish the war continued.
I dont remember Western nations attempting to eradicate an entire religion during the GWoT, systematically demolishing religious institutions with an eye toward imposing an entirely new system of belief.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization_of_Tibet
AttitudeSimilar9347@reddit
Bro we tried to turn Afghanistan into a liberal secular capitalist democracy, did you miss that part?
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
The war in Afghanistan cost trillions, killed 50,000 civilians and took 20 years to set up a puppet regime that lasted 2 weeks after the US pulled out. And you're really in here trying to defend that massive generational fuckup? Fuckin lol.
shohei_heights@reddit
Seriously? It's literally happening right now dude.
ssaall58214@reddit
Same reason why free Palestine will die out
silver_tongued_devil@reddit
I don't know but every flight I've been on since 2000 when I had a free Tibet sticker on my luggage has been TSA checked, so basically my entire adulthood big brother made me pay for it.
Accomplished_Pen980@reddit
China
EdChigliak@reddit
Something I’m not seeing mentioned is that it became common to respond to “free Tibet” by saying “Chinas already in Tibet. If they leave, the entire country crashes.” Now that may have been some Chinese propaganda but as we’ve seen with Iraq and Afghanistan, it’s true. Once an invading force sets up shop, leaving requires a slow, careful process of ensuring the country can still function after they’ve gone, or the entire economy and infrastructure collapses.
So “free Tibet” started to feel like a westerner’s naïveté rather than a kind-hearted movement. The geopolitical equivalent of “every day should be ice cream day.” Okay, free Tibet. How?
Of course in the last decade we’ve developed our ideas further on that, where when someone says “how do you propose we structure society after we get rid of capitalism or defund the police?” it’s a perfectly fine response to say “not sure, and honestly not my focus now. I’m trying to solve the first thing before I solve the next thing.”
But at the time, simply saying “china’s already in there.” kind of shut a lot of the spirit of the movement down. At least as I recall.
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
This very very white girl I knew in high school was obsessed with it. She had dreads that were somehow related. Then she became a tradwife who only cared about god and her future husband and babies like one year later.
thotuthot@reddit
The hippie to trad pipeline in action.
Justice_Prince@reddit
It's nice when you can find homesteading content without weird right wing undertones.
mcfetrja@reddit
Common denominator- family money.
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
Absolutely. She was definitely my earliest exposure to that.
Fussy_Part69@reddit
Where is she now?
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
I have no idea.
_BabyGod_@reddit
Tibet
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
More likely in a subdivision in a suburb in like Tulsa or something
valkyri1@reddit
China took Tibet in the 1950s. In the 90s there would still have been people around who remember it happening. Younger generations Tibetans now have only ever lived under Chinese rule.
As for the rest of the world, internet and mass consumerism + other conflicts took all our attention since.
JuliusSeizuresalad@reddit
Because it was free, They ran out of Tibet pretty early on
babyBear83@reddit
I had a free Tibet sticker on my big cd book that I kept in my car. It was stolen when my car got broken into one night. Also my 35mm camera.
That’s a pretty 90’s statement.
Mission_Spray@reddit (OP)
That is a super xennial statement. I still have my CD book. Somewhere.
thotuthot@reddit
It was all an anti-China CIA operation. We are the most propagandized people in the world, because we think we're immune from it.
Linvaderdespace@reddit
Counterpoint; anyone calling the Tibet Liberation Movement and anti-Chinese western psyop is a shill for the CCP.
just because the feds jump on a bandwagon doesn’t make the movement any more or less righteous, that’s just a broken clock being right twice a day.
thotuthot@reddit
What if the CIA builds and drives the bandwagon? https://www.colorado.edu/asmagazine/2024/06/03/six-decades-later-scholar-locates-site-secret-cia-tibet-training-camp
Linvaderdespace@reddit
You’re not great with shit like dates and the linear passage of time, are you?
is it a language thing? You gotta get your toefl score up, mei mei.
you want to give the Americans the credit for a resistance movement to which they contributed 300 soldiers 9-15 years too gd late?
you do realize that everyone the rest of the world over knows that you‘re full of shit, right mei mei?
thotuthot@reddit
Why so agro bro? Was daddy in the CIA?
thotuthot@reddit
Or was it you just really loved Pretty Woman?
Linvaderdespace@reddit
Don’t bitch out now, you want to disrespect an entire people on behalf of the CCP, you better be prepared to go the distance with your weak ass reading skills and your garbage ass arguments.
Put up or shut up you red hat pedo loving reprobate.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
The CIA only supported what was already happening.
OddlyMingenuity@reddit
That's why I hate when people call Maidan a CIA op. Yeah, of course you would have spooks on the ground trying to stir shit up but that's not reason to remove the merit and legitimacy of a grassroot movement.
cidvard@reddit
Yeah, like. I'm sure the CIA takes advantage of the shit that foreign governments get up to for their own propaganda ops but that doesn't make the thing that happened itself not real in many cases.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
No, it was started by Tibetans after China invaded. Being pro-Tibet isn’t being anti-China.
The USA at least had freedom of information, unlike China.
chadwickipedia@reddit
In 1951? It was a 90s thing
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
No. It started in the 50’s. People became more interested in it as the Dalai Lama became more known to the common world.
JohnnyBaboon123@reddit
the dalai lama was paid by the US government to do tours of anti china propaganda events.
On_my_last_spoon@reddit
No. I’ve heard the Dalai Lama speak a few times. It’s not at all that. He talks about Buddhism mostly.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
The office of the Dalai Lama was given money, not him personally. Nor did he even know about it. Nor was the money used for him to “do tours of anti-china events”…
thotuthot@reddit
👍
garden__gate@reddit
Do you have documentation of this or is it just your personal theory? I knew a lot of people who were involved with SFT back in the day and this seems outlandish to me.
thotuthot@reddit
Would providing sources change your conclusions?
https://fortune.com/longform/dalai-lama-biography-an-extraordinary-life/
https://www.colorado.edu/asmagazine/2024/06/03/six-decades-later-scholar-locates-site-secret-cia-tibet-training-camp
garden__gate@reddit
Thank you. I should have been clearer: I’m quite familiar with the Dalai Lama’s history with the CIA. I didn’t know about the training camp but it’s not suprising.
Since this post is explicitly about the Free Tibet civil society movement, I interpreted your comment to be saying that this movement was a CIA operation. Is that not what you were saying? If it is, is there documentation to that effect? I am open to that.
catsdelicacy@reddit
I'm thinking of getting a "Free the USA" shirt nowadays.
Cthulhus-Tailor@reddit
Like nearly every other movement, people got bored with the lack of progress and moved on to something more fashionable.
MyCatIsLenin@reddit
Tibet before China was a feudal shit hole. Look it up. Buddhist monks will literally kidnap children and tell the parents tough shit, you're children is some reincarnated monk. It's crazy
KellyJin17@reddit
China became probably the biggest global player and everyone else, including the U.S., fell in line and dropped it.
Peteisapizza@reddit
Had this as a bumper sticker on my first car.
Trinikas@reddit
They ran out of Tibets.
Burma9@reddit
They weren't expecting such a rush.
FuNiOnZ@reddit
So my choices are ‘or death’?
CosmicTurtle504@reddit
Depends. Do you have a flag?
Trinikas@reddit
They should have! This was back when people still really loved Bono. He was all about the Free Tibet.
willows_edge@reddit
Someone took theconcert lightning strike as a sign and said, "yeah, alright, nevermind then."
ketamineburner@reddit
Probably has something to do with audience members being struck by lightening.
S_A_R_K@reddit
They went to subscription based, $9.99/mo unlimited use Tibet model
RealTurbulentMoose@reddit
TaaS — Tibet as a Service.
bigsampsonite@reddit
Tibet Freedom Fest was one of the best concerts I've seen at Golden Gate Park.
Simple_yet_Effective@reddit
Wasn't Tibet kinda China's source of water and they were never going to put that source in someone else's hands??
InfidelZombie@reddit
It's inflation. Tibet is no longer free and is instead offered on a Country as a Service (CaaS) model.
HammsFakeDog@reddit
Maybe because it's become increasingly obvious that Tibet will never be free again. I wish this weren't the case, but it's largely a fait accompli at this point.
Real-Championship331@reddit
Yeah, I feel like there was more cause to be optimistic about the possibility of global human rights campaigns in the 90s. It also felt like China was at a crossroads after the fall of the Soviet Union. Tiananmen Square was fairly recent, fall of the Berlin Wall, independence for post-Soviet states....
chadwickipedia@reddit
Seriously…China just be like…nope. Watch out Taiwan is next
On_my_last_spoon@reddit
Taiwan has a fighting chance. Tibet really didn’t. They had no real army. China just kinda rolled in and took over.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
It’s been 70 years and china hasn’t won over Tibetans.
discountErasmus@reddit
Cynically, a lot of the left just became campist, that is to say exclusively aligned against the United States or the west in general. So you won't find a lot of interest in fighting injustices perpetrated by China.
shankthedog@reddit
After Dali wanted that kid to suck his tongue it got weird. Also after MCA passed and Beck went Scientologist steam was lost.
Denali973@reddit
China became a stronger economic power and marshaled its might against the movement.
fermentedradical@reddit
CIA found other campaigns to support as China integrated into the world economy
Miserable-Energy8844@reddit
lurkermurphy@reddit
freeing literal slaves in tibet from iron shackles
splashin_deuce@reddit
The same reason “Free Palestine” will pitter out in a couple years
Kevin_LeStrange@reddit
That's been going on for a long time. It rises in intensity every time Israel launches military operations into the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but never really goes away, because the diehard supporters (the Palestinian diaspora, the Western radical left, and Islamic interest groups) keep it alive.
Rough--Employment@reddit
It didn’t fade because Tibet suddenly became free, it faded because the spotlight moved.
Once the 90s counterculture wave died down and big-name celebrities stopped centering the issue, the Western public’s attention shifted to whatever the next cause of the moment was.
Current_Poster@reddit
The US went all in on trade deal with the PRC. As a matter of policy they couldn't do both.
SinisterDetection@reddit
I dunno, let's ask Kony 2012
Real-Championship331@reddit
There was a major 'unrest'/series of popular protests within Tibet in the late 80s - the crackdown that followed was extremely harsh and resulted in two years of martial law that stretched into the 90s. The Dalai Lama was an active advocate in the media and on the world stage in support of the protests in Tibet and raising awareness of what was happening in the country during martial law. So it makes sense that bringing attention to Tibet was a major issue in the 90s.
osddelerious@reddit
A lot of vaguely left-wing people jump on bandwagons if all they have to do is have stickers or posts online, but they don’t really care about Gaza or Israel or Tibet.
rigidlynuanced1@reddit
MCA padded away
mack_dd@reddit
Honestly, I think now that the internet exists, that probabbly has a lot to do with it. People can just look up Tibet and realize that they're not really the good guys either. Sometimes, both sides of a conflict are bad 🤷♂️
Reason #2, Hollywood wants to sell their movies to China. So, all the celebrities who are looking for some cause to latch onto to virtue signal, they're obviously not going to pick this one. And there are a lot of stupid people who take their cues from celebrities, so if Hollywood doesnt care, they dont care either.
Suspicious_Yam_69420@reddit
Because China gave MCA cancer.
RoyalZeal@reddit
People seem to believe that Tibet was a wonderful place before the Chinese came in. It was a feudal hellhole where 95% of the population were serfs and the ruling class owned human beings. Tibet is free.
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Name someone who thinks this?
This notion of Tibet being a hell hole is greatly exaggerated by China. And no, the landowners didn’t own the serfs.
Freeing isn’t invading, annexing, and oppressing a country.
Trick-Alternative328@reddit
Walmart
SteelCityCaesar@reddit
Why are there no bookmakers in China? Because they don't like Tibet.
m3umax@reddit
Cynicism? China got actually powerful and meaningful to Western companies bottom lines.
It makes more sense to be friendly With China than Tibet🤣. From a certain point of view.
Fallsfrostdew@reddit
Because it was always a more left leaning liberal type movement here and the modern left seems to be pro China so it doesn't really fit in with the cultural milieu.
KingOfParallelEarth@reddit
Inflation and tariffs have changed the message to "Not So Cheap Tibet"
ConundrumMachine@reddit
The CIA gave up
boogs34@reddit
China completed the genocide. Fully sinofied Tibet. And won the propaganda war
They’re committing a genocide right now on the Uyguirs but no one talks about that
To busy hating on the west where they refused to leave ironically
bassmansrc@reddit
This is what happens with virtual signaling movements. People love to hop on a bandwagon for a cause that makes them look good without ever even understanding the cause. At some point its passion dies in favor of another and with it the seeming mass support.
Competitive_Ant_472@reddit
I freed it back in high school
Bjorn_Blackmane@reddit
People realized they didn't want WW3
VinylHighway@reddit
Tibet is literally part of China since 1951
I didn't care in the 90s and I don't care now.
WeenyDancer@reddit
...there is. Also, Haunani-Kay Trask should be a household name.
VinylHighway@reddit
And do Americans care what china thinks about the free Hawaii effort?
Fabulous_Yesterday77@reddit
I still have the magnet bumper sticker on my tool box at home.
TakingYourHand@reddit
It's very far away, doesn't affect anyone local, and after failing to make progress, activists considered it a lost cause and moved onto something else.
Legitimate_Sample800@reddit
imagine if every cause just fizzled out after a few years, its so frustrating
Dogrel@reddit
“But you don’t understand, man. They just haven’t tried it FOR REAL yet…”
frustratedComments@reddit
If only the free Palestine shit would end..
ThemanfromNumenor@reddit
Because of pressure from China…
skinnyminnesota@reddit
Attention spans, man
Illustrious-Coat3532@reddit
I still have my ticket stubs to both days in Golden Gate Park.
WilliamMcCarty@reddit
Growing Chinese influence over the world market, Hollywood, etc.
arcxjo@reddit
West China bought Hollywood and Silicon Valley.
goosedog79@reddit
Same reason as the 1% protests?
OddlyMingenuity@reddit
Oh this one is coming back. Eat the rich is trending on tiktok
whistleridge@reddit
As a practical matter…Tibet isn’t going anywhere. If it got nowhere when China’s power was a tiny fraction of US power, then it’s not going to go anywhere when China is started to match and surpass US power. And that’s particularly true when there isn’t even a plausible conceptual path to talking about freedom.
People can only shout into the void for so long before they move on to other causes.
Miiirx@reddit
China began to be a big player that doesn't like being reminded that she should give back Tibet. The more china got big, the less our governments were keen on pushing that narrative. Money talks and now the tables have turned.
YakApprehensive7620@reddit
It’s still happening sometimes in Harvard sq
polygonalopportunist@reddit
Musicians went corporate.
Brilliant-Jaguar-784@reddit
It was the feel-good Social Thing To Be Very Concerned About of its time, and those change just like every other fad.
bridge1999@reddit
Sounds cool until you under that “Free Tibet” was to go back to religious control of Tibet
FourRiversSixRanges@reddit
Except not. The Tibetan government in exile is a democracy. Name just one person is who is or did call for an independent Tibet to be under religious control.
Rurumo666@reddit
Which was their choice and infinitely better than being a 2nd class Han Chinese colony.
80cartoonyall@reddit
Not even second class.
enters_and_leaves@reddit
Inflation means everything is more expensive now, even things that used to be free.
ailish@reddit
I went to a Free Tibet concert. I do wish it was still a thing.
Exay@reddit
For the exact same reason the “Free Gaza” movement is dying out
therealskittlepoop@reddit
If the free Gaza movement dies out, it’s only because Israel ran out of Palestinian children to kill… Hell they’re already moving on to other countries
Upbeat_Tear3549@reddit
WRONG
Avertr@reddit
China took over HL in 99 and bought up a number of people involved.
SameSpecialist8284@reddit
Bigger fish to fry.