Would Turkey & Greece ever do this?
Posted by FantasticQuartet@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 240 comments
Posted by FantasticQuartet@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 240 comments
GoldenBoot7891@reddit
depends if the feral cats were Turkish or Greek
OldJimCallowaytr@reddit
İdk about greece but Turkish government is slow about anything that isn't contain process called "collect tax from citizens" and since this action isn't contain that it's probably not gonna happen
And in Greece idk some fascist politician probably say they should do and then Turk's in Selanik region would say "came and suck my karaboga" and Greeks, idk they gonna split between racists and the ones that have brain(a brain that knew no cats equals black plague time again)
Embarrassed_Lake_337@reddit
Dude, there's a type of feral cat in Greece (Cretan wildcat) that is protected by law as an endangered species.. I don't know about Turkey but killing even a stray cat (or dog) in Greece is a criminal offense that might lead to a 10.000€ fine and imprisonment. New Zealand is an entirely different case.
New-Ranger-8960@reddit
Absolutely not. That would kill the government faster than the public funds they so generously relocate to their own pockets.
kifoadafofoali@reddit
They killed all the dogs and no one said anything.
grsharkgamer@reddit
4chan about to go ballistic on new Zealand government
soothed-ape@reddit
Feral cats spread astoundingly fast and wipe out native species. This is necessary in new zealand
Imaginary-Yam3535@reddit
Monsters what did kitties do
MartoVBG2K5@reddit
I wish that Bulgaria would do something about the Stray Feral Dogs… Stray Feral Cats are nowhere near as harmful and dangerous.
ArtichokeOutside6973@reddit
France did it and now their streets swarmed with rats.
Italy did it and they met the same fate.
Why Europeans are so against the stray cats when they are protecting their cities for far worse infestations. Are they like rats better than cats or are they like the feeling of constant disgust and fear over the peace that brought by sweet cats.
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
New Zealand doesn't have 1000 year old catacombs and tunnel systems in the cities for rats to mass breed, these are feral cats in the country that kill wildlife.
ArtichokeOutside6973@reddit
I mean yeah they know better for their nature. Who am I to speak?
ArtichokeOutside6973@reddit
why on earth I got dowvoted for this
Enough_Zombie2038@reddit
There are still plenty of birds and other smaller creatures in Greece despite the cats.
ConsciousPoet254@reddit
Neither Greece nor Turkey have the fauna NZ does.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Cats have also caused a lot of harm to the ecosystem in Greece and Turkey but the fauna have mostly adjusted to them at this point. Still though, rural cats do need to be put down, they still invade forests from time to time and kill a lot of animals that aren't used to them.
BatkoVovkivUA@reddit
Yeah, no bro. I live next to a crazy cat lady with 20 cats, rest assured no birds, lizards, frogs or anything prey sized for cats exists in the neighborhood.
Thank God said lady died like 2-3 weeks ago, her cats scattered and I saw a group of pigeons hanging around today next to their house where none would dare forage before.
Vlacheslav@reddit
those cats protected you from roaches and rodents. enjoy your new "wildlife"
PavelKringa55@reddit
You, mate, need to take your pills on time.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Why?
PavelKringa55@reddit
To avoid being nasty to cats. Cats are great.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Cats are great as pets. They are also OK in cities as they adapt to the eco-system and kill pests. That being said stray cats in rural areas are pests themselves and a massive threat to the already endangered wildlife. This isn't really up to debate at this point, their impact on wildlife is well documented.
We as humans basically bred millions of extremely good predators and when they get in contact with the wildlife, they destroy the parts that we humans haven't destroyed. It is our responsibility to nature to control and curb their numbers when neccessary.
PavelKringa55@reddit
I kind of fail to understand how cats, that are native to Europe, are pests, while larger predators, say wolfs are not. Cats are not pests in Europe for sure.
Cats were not domestic to New Zealand, so yeah, their flightless birds are having a problem, but cats are still cute darling creatures, unlike these feathery balls that produce awful sounds.
ChemicalFootball5405@reddit
Cats are not native to europe lol
Zrva_V3@reddit
Because humans are not breeding a large number of wolves and releasing them into the wild.
Stray dogs are also pests. Even though wolves themselves are often considered not. (I believe they are still legally considered as pests in Turkey due to a large number of them living here and attacking lifestock).
Humble_Print84@reddit
Trying to explain to cat owners why cats wreak the ecosystem and are nasty bastards to a whole range of wildlife, much of which is endangered, is like trying to carry water with a sieve.
I get it, you love Mr Fluffy… But not all of us do, and much prefer our birds, small reptiles and mammals to, you know, exist.
No_Hornet_9504@reddit
Cats are basically just cute furry parasites imitating human baby noises to secure human food. Toxoplasma Gondii infects about 1/4 of human population, is contagious across mammals, and results in a strong attraction to cats.
Zrva_V3@reddit
It's not even that I dislike cats, they are pretty well adjusted to cities here now and are acting as pest control, I just think that they shouldn't, you know, be literally everywhere.
Humble_Print84@reddit
I don’t particularly like them due to the damage they do to wildlife, but I wouldn’t say I dislike them as pets. I will likely have one after I travel a bit less later in life.
I would say most of my issue is with cat owners that resist the growing movement to have indoor cats only. It’s better for the cat, wildlife and owner, who doesn’t have to worry about fleas, worms, diseases and injured cats returning.
GiveMeAllTheRadishes@reddit
What fauna on greece and turkey? Y'all living in concrete hell dawg
Returntomonke21@reddit
and then you complain when we say Cypriots have room temp IQ
lagash-nergal@reddit
shut the fuck up bro you live in a grassy rock
Zrva_V3@reddit
Idk that much about Greece but you gotta be kidding me about Turkey. We have a lot of wildlife. Not that they're under a real threat from the cats but did you know we had leopards in Turkey?
Glad_Sky_3664@reddit
Every year Various Lobbys burn dozens of forests just to illegally claim rights to build their shit there illegally. Cats are the least of our problems. You are delusional if you don't see how fast the government ruins the ecosystem.
Zrva_V3@reddit
This is one of the reasons why we can't have proper discussions about anything in Turkey. People not being able to comprehend two major problems existing at the same time. And I'm delusional because I somehow defended the government??? How tf did you arrive at thag conclusion?
Glad_Sky_3664@reddit
I didn't say you defended Government. I am saying Turkey's wildlife is rapidly declining and has no longer as vibrant of an ecosystem as you claim.
Zrva_V3@reddit
You do realize that stray cats in rural areas are one of the major causes for this decline right?
MrCatnapp@reddit
They don't know that cats are called "Apex" predator...
Impossible_Gene_5475@reddit
And the cats are a threat to the leopards how exactly?
Zrva_V3@reddit
I specifically said cats are not a threat to the leopards in the comment you are replying to. Read before answering please. I just used leopards as an example of how we actually have a very diverse wildlife.
notnotnotnotgolifa@reddit
So how is it affected by the cats
Zrva_V3@reddit
Wild dogs are a bigger problem but cats are amazing hunters and their numbers are quite large so bird populations etc suffer a lot from the cats.
DownvoteEvangelist@reddit
Had?
Zrva_V3@reddit
*Have
Sorry. They were thought to be extinct but in the last 2 decades we startee seeing them again!
Maligetzus@reddit
ive been to pafos, its the same
Arktinus@reddit
You don't have wild birds, rodents and other species domestic cata prey on?
bostanite@reddit
One third of the country is forested with a wildlife ranging from bears to squirrels and everything in between.
Long-Performance-887@reddit
Why this answer got downvote? A Greek redditor wrote smilar comment to you but it is upvoted. People are weird.
Zrva_V3@reddit
I'm assuming a lot of them are from my countrymen. Cats are almost worshipped here and suggesting we take action against stray cats in the wild is basically heresy.
Long-Performance-887@reddit
Ah yes, you are right. Btw I am Turkish too.
BrrrManBM@reddit
Dude I got a domestic cat that lives in the local woods here in Serbia (smth like 5x5 km uninhabitet by man), and it is fat as fvck.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Maybe because it got fed by you too much. There are of course exceptions to the rule but the impacy of stray cats on wildlife is well documented.
Wakinta@reddit
If having cats means they die, then they die, a Greek
CheshireCa7@reddit
While your explanation is correct, I demand you be stripped of that flair fir excusing the measure against cats. Thank you for your compliance.
ConsciousPoet254@reddit
No
Barbak86@reddit
Different context. Cats are native here, over there they are an ecological catastrophe
ImportantUse7247@reddit
Please don't fuck with a Cat distribution system.
archonpericles@reddit
Never. Greeks love the cats. They believe they protect them from evil spirits.
28483849395938111@reddit
cats in new zealand, australia, americas have driven some local bird species to extinction. cats are literally considered invasive species in the new world.
but we don't have that problem here. cats are native and harmless. beneficial even.
Arktinus@reddit
They're not harmless. They control the rat and mouse populations in the cities, yes, but outside the cities, they kill billions of birds, rodents, lizards, frogs etc. each year. I mean, feral ones also do it to survive, but domesticated ones don't.
They can also dilute the European wildcat gene pool by hybridising with it.
28483849395938111@reddit
yes they do kill a lot of things, they are carnivores. but birds, rodents etc. aren't going extinct because of cats where cats are a part of nature. by harmless I meant harmless to wildlife as a whole. but when cats are introduced to places where they weren't meant to be, they can wreak havoc on the local ecosystem. which is the case in new zealand and maybe to an extent in parts of europe as well.
felis catus may not be considered "native" in most if not all of europe, but I think they don't harm wildlife in any significant way in turkey and greece at least. if they do, I'd love to be educated since I never hear about it. other countries may have different experiences with cats.
Arktinus@reddit
Yes, Europe already has a native cat, that's the European wildcat (Felis silvestris), so animals are at least somewhat used to cats being one of the predators unlike Australia and New Zealand, for example.
However, they still pose an ecological threat in the sense that there are only about 140,000 European wildcats in Europe (an estimate), while there are estimated to be around 108,000,000 of domestic cats. Most of these are outdoor cats and it's estimated these kill from 160 and 270 million animals just in the UK according to a study. So, the entire number would be over one billion. That's cpnsiderably more than any native wild predator would kill. And it's not even for survival.
And I love cats, but I'm also aware that they have a huge impact on wildlife. Which is why I neutered a stray cat that appeared at my house two years ago. :)
28483849395938111@reddit
that makes sense.
OnkelMickwald@reddit
My Turkish wife was shocked to tell me a story she had heard a Swedish acquaintance tell her about the acquaintance's dad euthanizing kittens with a fine caliber rifle when their farmhouse cat got kittens and I was like... Yeah? This was before widely accessible and required animal birth control and neutering? She just looked at me as if I had personally curb stomped a kitten before her eyes.
I'm guessing the Turkish mindset and the Scandinavian mindset about animal population control is very different and that I shouldn't tell me what the school janitor did to crows found in the schoolyard with broken wings.
AnnoyingRomanian@reddit
Interesting mindset being without empathy
OnkelMickwald@reddit
Some people are just practical I guess¯\(ツ)/¯
PavelKringa55@reddit
Cats are superior to shitty flightless birds native to NZ, but if they do it, we should consider sanctioning NZ.
ChemicalFootball5405@reddit
Zbog ovog komentara cu potrovat bar 10 komada macaka, hvala na doprinosu
PavelKringa55@reddit
Uzivaj u slaganju novog accounta.
No-Heart3432@reddit
Why anybody would hate the cats? They have no harm to anybody unlike dogs.
eucalyptus_Ribose@reddit
tell it to your local small fauna
No-Example-5107@reddit
I think Turkey might invade New Zealand over this.
Silly-Goober-1827@reddit
I'll do it my-fucking self if the kitties are in danger
BuzzCutBabes_@reddit
https://i.redd.it/4pgcq5ef0k3g1.gif
dkmegg22@reddit
The serbo Turkish alliance we need but don't deserve.
Maleficent_Break_451@reddit
Serbo Turkish ? I think you mean BALKAN TURKISH alliance
dkmegg22@reddit
I always thought cuz I'm seeing it here and online are Turks considerd Balkan?
usernameisokay_@reddit
No
Obi1Harambe@reddit
Is that the one not a single person wants?😅
MrCatnapp@reddit
Because west of the world will be Serbia and the east pf the world will be Turkey, so nobody wants it. Different flags, cultures are good for now
MysteryDragonTR@reddit
"What if we brought the Ottomans back, but instead of us in charge it's the cats?"
Silly-Goober-1827@reddit
Now that Ottoman Empire I'd be happy to serve under
Environmental-Pea-97@reddit
Fatih Sultan Tekir
cettypriminal@reddit
+1, will arrange flights and tools for all volunteers to get this done.
chronoslayerss@reddit
Doing it to the dogs was no issue tho…
AST360@reddit
Cats dont eat kids
PavelKringa55@reddit
I'll join in.
Whadafaag@reddit
The cats in turkey run the country in reality lol. Turks are just guests there
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
With the overwhelming Turkish navy? 🤔
No-Example-5107@reddit
As non-credible as it may sound, where there is a will (to protect kitties), there is a way.
Step 1: Turkish telenovelas. Sell them for cheap to New Zealand's TV networks and propagandize love of cats and encourage to delay cat genocide.
Step 2: Turkey has established bird drone manufacturing capabilities. Build kiwi drones to kill actual kiwi birds (Yes, they deserve to die. Have you heard their screams?). The reasons to kill cats further decrease, further delaying action. Kiwi drones self-destruct (commit seppuku with their beaks) when mission is done.
Step 3: Open Turkish doner kebab joints, and Turkish desserts stores and sell baklava with 1.000.000 calories, and 25 pounds of butter per square inch. Make the men fat and combat-ineffective.
Step 4: Profit.
Step 5: Online campaign to make fun of the New Zealander English accent, and how it's even worse than Australian bogan accent, further demoralizing the defender's forces.
Step 6: Fast-track building and deployment of Turkeys MUGEM aircraft carrier. Build several from the funds acquired from the sale of doner kebab and baklava to New Zealanders.
Step 7: Actually invade. New Zealanders are now too fat, demoralized, and in fear of the telenovelas being cut off to fight back.
Step 8: Save kitties.
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
Haha I just watched that video! While bogans may sound like that, we'd call that a bushie accent for people from the bush (country side, farmers etc.).
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
Jesus wept, you win! How could anyone survive such a crazy Albanian battle plan! 🤯 How bout we ship you all the cats we catch instead? 🤔
ThanosZach@reddit
That's a pretty well thought-out plan. Proceed to the strategy room. For the kitties!
emirsolinno@reddit
About time you will have revenge on Gallipoli
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
Nahh, that's water under the bridge for both countries. Turkey welcomes Australia every year since dawn services began there. Brave men on both sides at Gallipoli and all over the world fought and died so we could make jokes today and live in relative peace. Lest we forget them.
Pipimer@reddit
We are caming to help you bro
ThanosZach@reddit
Greece too.
bruzeykruze@reddit
Turks gotta leave us alone got darn
Thodor2s@reddit
House cats originate from the Near East (Modern day Turkey), and have spread to places like Greece and Egypt many millennia ago. We take care of them communally as well as keep a them as pets, for their many benefits: companionship, cleanliness, pest control.
Simply put: Cats are an endemic species here. And even the street cats here cannot be considered “feral”. And while it make a a lot of sense to neuter them, control their population etc, and we do, at least in Greece, it makes no sense to eradicate them.
icancount192@reddit
New Zealand has seen dozens of animals get extinct due to cats. It was introduced relatively recently to an island that had very few natural predators.
I love cats but I get it, they kill billions of wild animals every year, they're such an agile and perfect predator.
In Greece they do a lot of damage too particularly to blackbird populations but I don't believe there's a imminent threat right now as the local populations have adjusted to cats for longer periods of time.
Still it would be great if we could sterilize all feral cats though so we can hear more chirping sounds.
Kitsooos@reddit
You would also hear a lot more mice, rat and snake sounds.
There is a reason people in Greece literally import cats in regions that have a low cat population.
They kill things we want dead.
loxagos_snake@reddit
Sure, but if you use cats to solve your problems, you should be 100% responsible about them. Including sterilization.
What Greeks do is import the cats, let them do their thing and multiply uncontrollably, and then we have problems.
Returntomonke21@reddit
You cant possibly be Greek. You have common sense!
Adorable_Historian48@reddit
NZ has no land snake species, or any native land mammals. Mice and rats are also introduced, and are better dealt with by modern pest control - the risk/benefit ratio of having marauding feral cats isn’t worth it for sending the native wildlife extinct. The national symbol, the Kiwi, is most in the firing line for this, being flightless.
Kitsooos@reddit
I mean I was talking about Greece. I don't know what is going on NZ.
Who do what is best for you I guess.
Consistent_Guava8592@reddit
Well the answer to this is obviously: Have you tried bringing bigger cats ?
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
Yeah our native bride don't fly or love nesting in the ground. It's makes them an easy kill for cats.
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
And if it's not cats it's foxes and rats/water rats. All lovely bloodthirsty predators gifts from our European ancestors. Foxes and cats were deliberate too.
LowPhotojournalist6@reddit
Dafuq is an water rat
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
A rodent with webbed feet that can swim - Rakali
Arktinus@reddit
By water rat, do you mean the rakali? Because that one seems to be native to Australia.
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
That's the one! Very resourceful hunter. Sadly they go after our endangered mainland fairy penguins :( they are little defenseless blobs of fat and fur that are attacked by predators so much that they now have backup - Marenema Sheepdog! :D
loxagos_snake@reddit
I want to smack a motherfucker every time I see dead kittens & birds in the streets.
We have tons of people who are animal lovers but lack resources. Many will choose to starve themselves just to make sure the street kitties are fed and sterilized. With just a little bit of consistent assistance from municipalities, we have an army of volunteers that could help solve the problem in a relatively short timeframe.
But protection of flora & fauna is consistently one of the lowest priorities of any government at any level.
Humble_Print84@reddit
Sterilisation isn’t working in many places. I love animals and hell am even fucking vegetarian, but feral cats need humanely euthanised.
You might not like it, but it’s necessary. Unless 80% or higher of the population is sterile they still breed beyond the replacement rate, and they still live many years devastating wildlife. Plus the literal billions spent on catch and release sterilisation is better spent on reconstructing habitats to enable the endangered animals to thrive in the first place.
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
Same with Australia, it's no joke. Feral, stray and even domestic cats are the #1 predator of all native wildlife in Australia and New Zealand, killing hundreds of thousands of endangered defenseless animals every year. It's legal to hunt feral cats with a lisence. They're a serious threat.
iboreddd@reddit
I hate how Auatralia and New Zealand decide to eradicate animals
Renandstimpyslog@reddit
At this point I believe they just like killing things.
kallen-kozuki@reddit
Funny how you're saying that
Arktinus@reddit
They do it to protect their native animals which are also endangered due to domesticated cats, feral cats and invasive species.
Zrva_V3@reddit
They do it to save more animals.
UpPeek234@reddit
Do NZ governor or president or who took this decision is the reincarnation of this guy? Pope Gregory IX, the 178th pope of the Catholic Church? I'm just curious. 🤔🫠
klepht_x@reddit
Turkiye and Greece both have a native wildcat species, so feral cats aren't a new threat to native wildlife. The big issue is just that feral cats tend to get fed by people and have a higher population capacity, meaning they put more pressure on native wildlife. As such, they're not ideal to have in large numbers, but they are objectively less harmful to wildlife than feral cats in NZ or Aus.
Craniummon@reddit
Unfortunately cats are a extintion-level threat for many species. They need to be controlled.
vevezka@reddit
So are humans, actually
Craniummon@reddit
Yes of course. But we have sense of preservation of other species. Animals very rarely.
vevezka@reddit
Lmao human activity killed hundreds if not thousands of animal species, and the fact that cats are even in NZ is also because of fucking humans who took them there.
Dangerous_Pie37@reddit
Cats no, dogs on the other hand maybe. Stray dogs are becoming a real problem in some parts of the country.
Kitsooos@reddit
Have you heard of the great stray dog genocide that happened in Greece around 2004 ?
No-Heart3432@reddit
I'm not against it tbh for the dogs. They are territorial animals and strong animals to threat human life.
Training_Advantage21@reddit
Pre olympics dog ethnic cleansing.
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
Turks love discriminating against everything dont they
Kitsooos@reddit
They do, but this is irrelevant here.
Stray dogs are a problem. Stray cats are not.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Well not anymore. Cats in our countries (mostly) have already done the harm they could to our local faunas.
Kitsooos@reddit
Bro cats have been living in Asia Minor for thousands of years. Any harm they could do, they would have done before Alexander the Great.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Yeah but they weren't able to breed so much due to the infinite amount of food we supply them like in our current day.
mahirbr@reddit
usa flair btw
Geoff_Uckersilf@reddit
No flair cigan btw
Shoddy_Trip_2351@reddit
%33
Ujko_matan@reddit
If you loose the cats you get rats we learn that the hard way in croatia
vevezka@reddit
Actually all of Europe learned it the hard way in about 1348 AD
Arktinus@reddit
If you're in the city, that's unfortunately true. Luckily, in the countryside you can help attract owls, kestrels, snakes, weasels, martens etc.
Consistent_Guava8592@reddit
Price of meat cannot fall that sharply , we would need a whole plan for this in order to ignore it .
gilko86@reddit
Turkey and Greece are unlikely to take extreme actions against each other due to the significant political and economic consequences involved.
Adorable-Ad-1180@reddit
The US pretty much already does this. A feral dog or cat is not going to last long outside. They get picked up and sent to the Humane Society, which puts them down after like 2 weeks if nobody adopts them. Don't quote me on the exact timeline but thats my understanding.
Afafaad@reddit
we dont need to get rid of our cats. they are chill asf
Environmental-Pea-97@reddit
I adore cats but I will support NZ on this. Cats have no place in that particular ecosystem.
Timely-Beautiful9497@reddit
I am a turkish openwater scuba diver at mediterrenian area. in last 10 years lion fish population is booming and destroying local fishes.. I am not hunting them but i know some people do with legal permissions. And i support this.
Not because i hate them or i am some kind od sadistic low being. Because they are killing local fishes.
I accually love lion fish they are gorgeous and beautiful cretures but they have to be cleaned. at least their population have to be put under control
So as a cat lover and a turkish guy i understand them and i support them.
efoniki@reddit
I wish they could send them all to us. 3.5 mil cats are nothing compared to 10 mil refugees. We can deal with them.
efoniki@reddit
NZ just promoted to my top 3 hated countries. I hope they face what happened to europe in 14th century after the same decision.
Thalassophoneus@reddit
No. Even if it was an ecological necessity, no authority would even think of implementing something like this cause the average Greek has the scientific literacy of a fucking banana. I mean we have self-proclaimed academics and engineers claiming that wind turbines cause drought by blowing away moisture.
Olphegae@reddit
I have stood against crusades all my life, and of course I am cause im atheist, but I say we do a crusade to give the mussolini treatment to this mussolini looking guy.
NikoTheKilla@reddit
Cats are native to turkey and greece it would be easier to eradicate humans there at least 7 cats for one human not counting the wild ones in the forest.
Great_Grass_5593@reddit
WTF!?
Interesting_Cod9364@reddit
They have redback spiders, great white sharks, and bluebottle jellyfish yet they are looking to eradicate cats.
This is next level stupid.
Previous-Ad-9713@reddit
This may be a moment of history where the balkans will unite and create a invasion task force
Arktinus@reddit
The Japanese did something similar, but on a much smaller scale. It helped one of their native pigeon species recover from the brink of extinction.
Jonaleth_Irenicus@reddit
I'm pretty sure we'll welcome our feline refugee brothers and sisters from the Anzacs.
CypriotGreek@reddit
No, never. It would be political suicide. It’s not really necessary and would make 70% of the population furious.
manguardGr@reddit
Many greeks hate the cats. Old stupid medieval perceptions have done good job even in the new generations...
Hareholeowner@reddit
Cats no, dogs maybe.
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
Turks are coming into the comments acting like animal lovers while they are out there torturing and slaughtering innocent stray dogs.
s2mle100lesh01@reddit
buddy are you okay is everything alright with you
purpleblacc@reddit
Probably a Kurd. Many people are in love with us and see us in their sleeps. Unfortunately it's one-sided. So let them, who cares lol. Maybe one day they'll find a medicine for their bhurts.
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
Crying much? I have seen the footage how Turkish officers bashing dog heads like Megan in twd shut your poor ass up and treat dogs better
Zrva_V3@reddit
We are not even killing the stray dogs even though we absolutely should be. Sounds cruel but they are a massive problem.
lersiz@reddit
who tf indoctrinated you
laugher7@reddit
There would be riots in the streets
StreetYak6590@reddit
They kill an insane amount of wildlife. What would be the best solution?
Utturkce249@reddit
We should eradicate New Zealand for this /s
Long-Performance-887@reddit
İn İstanbul, so many little bird species endangered. And İstanbul is migrate point for birds. Even sparrows go around rarely. I would want our people like logical people in New Zealand people.
greekhop@reddit
We could definitely do with a more robust cat sterilization program. In my neighborhood we are taking care of dozens of cats, we sterilize them and feed etc, some of those are my cats, all adopted strays, but there just shouldn't be that many running around out there needing help. But I've seen so many Greeks, people that I know, who are against sterilization or just dont care and let their cats reproduce infinitely. It has to be imposed.
ohgoditsdoddy@reddit
I read the only native mammal in New Zealand are bats and the only native predators were birds, so local wildlife has zero defenses against cats.
Turkey & Greece have no sane reason to do this.
Whole-Expression618@reddit
People do not realise what an absolute ecological catastrophy cats are. They kill many animals for sport, and since their domestication their numbers have exploded
Outrageous-Move-2849@reddit
Let them kill, survival of the fittest, new animals will evolve.
LendMeCoffeeBeans@reddit
Let’s put this guy in a cage with a tiger
Incvbvs666@reddit
I'd personally eradicate all feral cats and dogs in the cities. You don't have an owner? Off to the injection site you go! I'm sick and tired of those who allegedly 'love' animals, yet don't provide adequate care for them and endanger the well-being of everyone in the process, especially small children!
Illustrious_Young271@reddit
Unless the feral cat is a lion I don´t see them endangering children. Dogs can get quite out of hand.
Incvbvs666@reddit
Cat spends time around the garbage dumps, cat claws a child... you do the math.
Zrva_V3@reddit
Stray cats in cities are actually a part of the eco-system. They kill insects and rats etc. It's one of the reasons why even massive cities like Istanbul have little to no rat problem.
Secret-Potato-@reddit
I wish we did
Elias_Sideris@reddit
Cats not feral. Cats our friends.
mr_rdlbl@reddit
No they are failed states
demeyor@reddit
so you have chosen rats, mice and the PLAGUE! Karma will destroy you.
FineMaize5778@reddit
Alot of the cats on cyprus dont look healthy though, they arent cared for all that well.
notnotnotnotgolifa@reddit
They are war veterans
Devoika_@reddit
I've read so many sad stories of people poisoning and killing cats on Cyprus, maybe it would be better for the poor creatures to not suffer if people don't or won't care for them
Pipimer@reddit
Eradicate?? If he mean sterilize yes if he means euthanasia I hope my country with the help of turkey and invade then to teach them how to treat cats or eradicate himself
HorrorsPersistSoDoI@reddit
1st of all - I am pretty sure the headline is clickbait/ragebait.
2nd - I love cats with my deepest soul and heart, but their overpopulation is terrible for everyone and everything, ESPECIALLY them!
Annual_Criticism8660@reddit
I remember when Australia said the same and Brigitte Bardot went mental. Got her fans to do thousands of write in letters to the Australian government calling them murders for going after cute innocent fluffy kitty cats
No_Technician_4709@reddit
There is a difference. Feral cats can be an invasive species and this damages the whole ecosystem. In Turkey and Greece they are not. However, even if they were, Turks would be so pissed and probably do everything for the decision to be retracted.
vladedivac12@reddit
Feral or not, a cat that roams outside will hunt and cause issues to the local ecosystem.
Glad_Sky_3664@reddit
Cats have been living im Turkey for far too long. Ecosystem and species adapted to it. Those that didn't adapt are likely far too gone atp.
freakybird99@reddit
Cats come from egypt and both greece and turkey are very close to it. Cats have been living in those regions for years and ecosystem is adapted to it
Commercial_Leek6987@reddit
Cats in Turkey are completely urban; you won't find any feral car living outside of the city ion the wild
Zrva_V3@reddit
You will but they are rarer.
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
Like how you Turks are torturing and killing stray dogs?
No_Technician_4709@reddit
If this is not a rage bait, you probably don’t know shit about Turkey.
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
Man, you guys were acting racist as hell. I went to your country with my friend who’s Asian, and the difference in how you treated us was insane. You were cool with me because I’m white, but he got hit with straight-up discrimination the whole time.
It’s wild how some people try so hard to act ‘European’ when the behavior is anything but. The whole vibe felt outdated and far from what real European culture stands for. Honestly, the whole experience was just primitive and disappointing.
dcell1974@reddit
Dude, you think that "real" Europeans are less racist that modern Turks?
FesteringAnalFissure@reddit
No bro you don't understand bro the hyperborean aryans cannot be racist like the olive skinned untermensch
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
I have been all around Europe and yes racism still exists but just with miserable old folks. Newer generation in Europe is way different the one in turkey imho but that might be the fact of living with a tyrant for all them years. It ain’t even about it i have seen the footage of how Turkish officers bashing dog heads and how they are poisoning them innocent dogs. They are lovely towards cats hence why they are discriminating.
No_Technician_4709@reddit
If you’re being honest, I’m genuinely sorry about what your friend experienced. There are terrible people in every country. Just like some insult George Floyd or Nick Fuentes, it doesn’t represent everyone. What happened to your friend has no connection to your claim about killing stray animals. That’s a classic hasty generalization.
plamck@reddit
|| George Floyd or Nick Fuentes ||
No_Technician_4709@reddit
defnotachicken@reddit
Lol I would call being racist to Asians is a very European thing. You are a buthurt American who doesn't know shit about a country, you can go and cry next to the crying wall on your owners land.
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
Your pride got hurt?
No_Technician_4709@reddit
I am crying rn
plamck@reddit
Bro came to the Balkan sub just to hate on Turkey lol
darthcoronus@reddit
Turkish feral cats live in cities. They are not a threat to natural life infact it is the opposite. they are pest controllers for rats etc. As soon as they leave the cities they become easy prey for jackals, eagles etc. I guess they dont have natural predetors in New Zealand.
Illustrious_Bed2937@reddit
No. NZ is doing it because cats are not a native species. They are trying to get the eco system under control.
Local-Ask-7695@reddit
Turkey has zero rat problem like France does. Cats are good for cities
ali_baba93@reddit
We have bigger problems than this
purpleblacc@reddit
Disgusting
Dismal_Foundation784@reddit
Like how your poor ass government did it with dogs?
Zrva_V3@reddit
What NZ is doing and what Turkey planned to do (but mostly chickened out) with dogs are both completely justified.
lersiz@reddit
Can you shut the fuck up yank? You have absolutely no idea about the problem and the reaction because you think something already happened which is not true
Zrva_V3@reddit
This could overthrow the government in Turkey so no. People look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them not to feed the stray cats so that they hunt for their own foot like the rats not just breed like there is no tomorrow while sleeping all day.
pavementchild@reddit
A pope did this in europe and millions died
No-Championship-4632@reddit
The more stray cats the less rats.
M3t4ll0@reddit
They will reintroduce feral cats when rats in New Zealand reach the size of a small dogs and devastate all remaining wildlife.
LickMyAss_OniiChan@reddit
Time to hate on NZ.
stos313@reddit
HELL no. Feral cats = no mice or rats.
Gramerdim@reddit
I think greece needs tighter control on stray dogs and their concerts at 3am
Ollynik@reddit
C*nts!
LucillaGalena@reddit
NZ deserves Erdogan if it does that.
Ok_Thanks_1820@reddit
I mean New Zealand really cares about preserving their ecosystem to the point that even snakes that come to the country through freight etc. are euthanized as far as i know.
Shoddy_Trip_2351@reddit
That's impossible in Turkey. I'd start a riot if that happens
wolfm333@reddit
There's always talk in government circles about controlling the population of stray dogs and cats but what it means is sterilization done by the local municipalities (as usual some funds are allocated but the local mayors pocket the funds and do almost nothing about the problem). In the end nothing is ever done about it. As for total extermination that can never happen as many people especially in the rural areas have a symbiotic relationship with stray animals (feed them, care for them but still keep them outside their homes in a state of semi-adoption) and will never tolerate a cull.
elusivemoods@reddit
Let's see it...
XenophonSoulis@reddit
Fuck no. Outside of the political suicide that others mentioned, they'd have to deal with millions protesters most likely (me included, and I'm not a cat person).
GoHardLive@reddit
For cats maybe no but for dogs yes
ADRzs@reddit
Feral cats in New Zealand create many problems because their wild life is simply not used to these predators. These cats devastate bird species that have no previous exposure to these felines.
This is not the case with Greece. There are no problems in the wild life with feral cats, not major ones anyway and these cats have been in Greece for thousands of years. In fact, their subspecies in Greece is very malaable and they make really good pets. If Greece has a problem with wild life, this is mostly wild boars that devastate crops. There are special teams out there killing as many as possible to control their numbers.
Silly-Goober-1827@reddit
Lettuce hope that they mean giving them homes
First-Egg-713@reddit
The cats in greece are domesticated but live outdoors, they arent feral. Feral cats are wild animals and do not interact well with humans. They also cause a lot of damage to the ecosystem because they are such good hunters.
cookienki@reddit
we also don't have feral cats, there are some shy ones but none of them are wild :')
Fit_Wait6923@reddit
You just experienced the classic Balkan meme of "I HATE you" "yea I HATE YOU" "oh wait what's that?" "WE FUCKING HATE YOU"
Opposite-Mind1143@reddit
Motherfuckers, i love cats, i know not a lot of people like them but i like them because they have their own personalities and can be really funny sometimes
PetrichorDude@reddit
Boys, I think its time we visit NZ. We can carve them up after. Gonna fuck em up in the moddle of their retarded little dance for this.
cookienki@reddit
No, at least for Türkiye. Neutering stray cats should become more common in our country, but killing cats en masse is inhumane.
hrnyCornet@reddit
New Zealand is a unique situation, very different from here. There were no mammal carnivores before humans arrived. The native animals were oblivious to the danger and unequipped to deal with it. Before the Europeans came the Maori had already done a lot of harm.