Question about the 2 Hour Day/Night XCs Commercial Requirements

Posted by ShadowSinger2121@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 8 comments

In 61.129(a)(3)(iii) it requires "One 2-hour cross country flight in a single engine airplane in daytime conditions that consists of a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure" (and the same for night). Does the first leg alone need to be 2+ hours, or can the cumulative "there and back" flight satisfy the 2 hours? And if the single leg alone needs to be 2 hours, can you work on other things and then land in order to remain in the air for the required 2 hours, as long as you meet the 100 NM mile requirement? I would be working on commercial maneuvers, not just screwing around! Thanks for any clarification

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AlbiMappaMundi@reddit

The regulation states it explicitly: * Daytime (or night for the latter) * 2+ hours * Going somewhere at least 100+nm from the original point of departure Those are the only stipulations. People do it in all sorts of ways. Sometimes people will fly to a 100+nm away destination for two hours during the day, then turn around and fly the return leg for two hours at night, logging as two separate flights. Sometimes people will fly 100 miles away for one hour, and return leg for a second hour.

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ShadowSinger2121@reddit (OP)

But I guess my question is, is a "flight" the whole flight, or is a "there and back" 2 flights? To me, that's not so clear. But I certainly hope you're right, as I'd rather the whole thing last 2 hours, rather than 4, given it's a training flight

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AlbiMappaMundi@reddit

You have wide latitude in how you can log things. You can log an out and back as a single flight or two separate ones.

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ShadowSinger2121@reddit (OP)

Thanks!

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Virian@reddit

I’d add that they have to be training flights, not solo.

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flyingron@reddit

Flight does not equal "single leg." You can have any number of stops on a flight.

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TxAggieMike@reddit

I did mine as a one way in late afternoon. Had dinner with instructor. Returned in the evening after dark. Enjoyed the trip.

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rFlyingTower@reddit

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