Am I the only one that nowadays that prefers early to mid 90s culture?
Posted by Fickle_Driver_1356@reddit | Xennials | View on Reddit | 106 comments
A lot of people my age who are In their 20s, has a lot of love and nostalgia for the late 90s and early 2000s Y2K era, and i honestly feel like the odd man out, I feel the early to mid 90s Gen x grunge slacker culture was 10 times cooler and more interesting, what’s your guys take on this.
OskeyBug@reddit
I kinda hated the late 90s but I'd take it over what we've got now in a heartbeat.
Appropriate-Food1757@reddit
Gotta go way back to the Great Depression. WW2 I suppose but at least we were in the right side of that
Appropriate-Food1757@reddit
I think it’s pretty universal at this point
KingdomOfFawg@reddit
“Slacker” I absolutely think this is hilarious. Being a slacker was the epitome of entitled Gen X shit. You were able to get by on being a pizza delivery driver and have a band. There was enough meat on the bone for everyone. Your parents could afford to partially support you when you were 23. My cousin who spent years in the 90s being grunge adjacent and marginally employed retired from a regional transit authority and owns a 1.3 million dollar house that’s pretty close to paid off. He paid a pittance for it in the early 2000s. Not working your guts out is a bygone privilege.
Sal_Paradise81@reddit
🙄. Yup, you sure are.
_6siXty6_@reddit
I was born in 79, so I experienced the 90s as a kid, teen and young adult. I'd say 1993 and 1996 were my favorite years. I remember Columbine happening and Woodstock 1999, I got an absolute sense of dread in '99 that the new millennium was going to absolutely suck. I saw that our generation was going to be parents and how quickly technology was changing and taking over. I'd love to go back to that era and style of living in the 90s.
croissant_and_cafe@reddit
As someone that was there I agree grunge, skate, rave culture was the coolest.
R0botDreamz@reddit
85 to 95 is the best 10 year stretch over the last 50 years.
Movies, music, sports, gaming, tech, TV sitcoms.
Fickle_Driver_1356@reddit (OP)
Eh I say gaming was better in the 2000s
R0botDreamz@reddit
Explain.
Fickle_Driver_1356@reddit (OP)
The 2000s had the 6h generation era which the best era in gaming then had the 7th generation which was cool. Plus you still had the n64 and ps1 in the very early portions
Twitter_2006@reddit
I do too, OP.
Joeva8me@reddit
It was an objectively better time than the shit show that showed up after. I’d name names and give receipts about how shitty leaders rammed culture into the ground under the boot of government control, but fuck all of them
caddy45@reddit
I agree with your sentiment, but the governmental boot was part of what made it awesome. Eminem calling out the VP on radio and stage? Absolutely epic.
clumsystarfish_@reddit
The entire decade, and the first year and a half or so of the new millennium, was fantastic. The Matrix was prophetic when it said that time period was peak humanity.
lsutigerzfan@reddit
Late nineties to mid 2000s was peak for me.
Asleep_Onion@reddit
Specifically, the first 1 year, 9 months and 10 days of the new millennium was awesome.
Klutzy-Delivery-5792@reddit
The new millennium technically started in 2001. This is because there is no year zero. The first millennium went from 1 ACE - 1000 ACE, millennium two from 1001 ACE - 2000 ACE, etc.
Thanks for listening to my nerd talk.
gratefulphloyd@reddit
I’d say the first 346 days. Shit really started going downhill after that.
xRVAx@reddit
So wait, a futuristic movie made in 1999 claims that cultural products from the 1990s are the best, and you think that's prophetic?
YEMBOTT@reddit
I guess you had to be there... Huh? Bc yes it was
blellowbabka@reddit
Sure I look back fondly on the early 90s. Loved Home Alone, The Sandlot and Jurassic Park, Clarissa explains it all, Salute your shorts, etc
Shatterstar23@reddit
Nothing was ever quite the same movie wise after you saw Jurassic Park in the theater.
caddy45@reddit
Mine was Independence Day.
EastTXJosh@reddit
Class of ‘97 here. I love 90’s culture, but it started slipping around my junior year of high school, especially the music—all genres. I stopped watching TV (other than Seinfeld) my senior year in high school, so I have a definite dark period from roughly 1996 to 2005. I also was locked into the clothing and hairstyle I had in 96-97 until about 2010. All that to say, when I say I love the 90’s, I’m really just talking about 90-95 really.
Kittypie75@reddit
I loved the dance music from the very early 90s. The grunge/gangsta rap era made me feel bad for it lol
wheres_the_revolt@reddit
Honestly, the 90’s were peak American culture. Everything has gone downhill since 😂
JeffTS@reddit
I enjoy the culture from the entire decade. I don't really have a preference.
LineImpossible3958@reddit
I feel like 1997-2000 was the real sweet spot, partly because I was in college then.
Adventurous-Depth984@reddit
The 90’s were peak human living. Tech growth, affordability, hope for the future. Including how we handled the Y2K bug. I’m not sure humanity would deal with that today like it did.
I’m extending and counting all the way up to September 10, 2001. Those 20 months are honorary 90’s. All the way up to the last day.
KudosOfTheFroond@reddit
BEST years were 87-98, once 1999 hit I started to feel the change into what eventually was a failed launch into early adulthood. It wasn’t until 2019 that I finally figured out how to adult successfully. Now my life’s amazing, but there was a 20-year span there where I was not doing very well.
nochumplovesucka__@reddit
Early 90s hip hop was on another level as well.
lurkermurphy@reddit
yes so many, erm suburban kids were like oh hello mc hammer and vanilla ice which led to sir-mix-a-lot and ultimately snoop and dre
nochumplovesucka__@reddit
Im talking about Das EFX, Souls of Mischief, Onyx, Leaders of the New School, Arrested Development, ATCQ, De La Soul, etc.
A_Weasel_NamedFee@reddit
Tribe deserves more than an etc
phfffun@reddit
ATCQ
rohm418@reddit
ATCQ is Tribe
DiggityDanksta@reddit
("Scenario" comes on)
So who is this "Busta Rhymes" guy, anyway?
ShillinTheVillain@reddit
He tried to introduce himself but he was talking too fast, I didn't catch a word of it
illwill79@reddit
Hell ya. 90s hip hop was incredible.
Ok-Matter-2988@reddit
that era had a raw groove that still hums in my head
j65816@reddit
Newsweek cover from March 1990.
hyzerKite@reddit
Word.
rohm418@reddit
Whatever years Pauly Shore was popular. Those are the ones I prefer.
honcho713@reddit
90s were peak. Morpheus was right.
CantaloupeAsleep502@reddit
Early to mid 90s was the coolest time. I was a little too young, wish I was 10-15 years older, but I remember lots of the most famous albums of that time dropping and being in awe as a little kid. Just a wild ride.
_B_Little_me@reddit
Gen Z absolutely missed out on the peak. You all have had nothing but garbage. I totally get why you are drawn to it.
the_orange_baron@reddit
91-96 was peak
FoppyRETURNS@reddit
Imho that waa the 90s, 1990 waa like a continuation of the 80s and 97 - 01 like a whole other decade.
Square_Huckleberry53@reddit
Was a good time, but there was a ridiculous amount of homophobia and racism.
FoppyRETURNS@reddit
And overt violence too!
yourlittlebirdie@reddit
Early 90s wasn’t a happy time for me personally so I have very little nostalgia for it.
FoppyRETURNS@reddit
I almost became homeless and I sure was hungry, but the music got me through man.
TakingYourHand@reddit
When I think mid 90s culture, I think of how fucking horribly mean we were to each other.
FoppyRETURNS@reddit
No matter how much I love the 90s, this was the real world on a nutshell. Minus the cigarette smoke. 😂
novisimo@reddit
I think most xennials have fond memories of the 90s as to where we were in life. The technology was getting better and better but not all consuming.
FoppyRETURNS@reddit
My cultural roots were set down between 93 - 96. This is the world I remember.
hbi2k@reddit
"Am I the only one on this nostalgia sub that has nostalgia?"
RoundTheBend6@reddit
1990 to 1995 is indeed better.
belunos@reddit
Permit me to give you the most gen x answer I can.. who gives a shit? They like 90s, you like 90s. One of you like the grunge era, the other prefers the college rock era. My guy, they're not that different. I can't speak for xennials, but gen x'ers kind of lump the whole decade together. Singles? Yea, didn't that come out around the same time as Cruel Intentions? I don't know, xennials, you tell me? Are we gen x just sort of glazing over this decade?
mstermind@reddit
People in their 20s have nostalgia for the 90s? I actually still remember that decade and it wasn't really something to be nostalgic for.
Marvinkmooneyoz@reddit
Late 90s of course had some development, matrix, etc. but I feel I. America at least, some unchecked forces took hold. I liked the general attitude and zietgeist of the early and mid 90s. But we didn’t understand it or these things in general, well enough to keep it going. I think mid 90s is really the “lost in plain site” era; up until the 80s, cultural studies professionals could agree on their conclusions about cultural development, sociology, etc. the 90s are just s bit too multi-faceted. Frankly, I think our species doesn’t really have the grounding to ”get” \~90-95. Everything from 98 or so forward, I feel like is largely the base for culture since, so people kind of get it generally. But look at how few people watched or got “SMASH!” By Kyle Mooney, or watched the new Animaniacs.
hyzerKite@reddit
Pantera. Sound Garden, Biggie. Blood Sugar Sex Magick, Nirvana. Nas. Fugazi. Primus. Pre and Post Digital Underground-2 Pac, Melvins, Tribe, De La Soul, Dinosaur Jr. , Tool, Sonic Youth, Alice in Chains, Jauana’s Addictiones, The Chronic Era,Peak Ice Cube,MORPHINE and a big dose of Beastie Boys——-continuous weekly playlist staples basically a Lalapalooza smorgasbord, if you will. Early-mid 90s held the gold standards of music of my life. I am grateful it is not late 90s early 2000s. Dodged a bullet.
kmmccorm@reddit
Wow so you prefer the time you grew up in to another time? Crazy.
SnowMission6612@reddit
Tech-wise, I think early 90s beats out late 90s by a long shot for me.
Late 90s was still very cool in a lot of ways (Geocities, burning CDs, broadband) but it was shifting hard into being mainstream/normie-friendly which made it have a little bit less character, in my view. Especially as games moved into digitized art (painted and scanned art, recorded music, FMV cut scenes) it lost something.
I liked the digital tech of the aarly 90s, everything still had to be hand-pixeled pixel art, FM synthesis music. QA and aversion to bad press was pretty much non-existent, so everybody was putting in naughty easter eggs.
Aside from the tech world, I think overall I probably prefer the late 90s to the early 90s, but they're very close to one another. I understand being fascinated by Kurt Cobain (and Eddie Vedder and all them, too), and I do appreciate them a lot. When you got into the late 90s, the music scene had fully shifted over to alternative (no more new wave) and the scene felt a little bit more full to me. Like every house party you'd hear at least one rad new band you'd never heard before. But maybe that's just because I had more opportunities to find new music in the late 90s.
retrozebra@reddit
I remember realizing as a teen that each year in the early 2000s, felt a little less fun than before and that the late 90’s were a freaking time. The early 2000s were still enjoyable, but honestly, the ’90s were the best.
nwbrown@reddit
Are you posting in the wrong sub? If you are in your 20's you are definitely not a Xennial.
SnowMission6612@reddit
Meh nothing wrong with generational "tourists" here as long as the questions are Xennial-related, I think
Fickle_Driver_1356@reddit (OP)
I wanted to get your guys take on this since you guys were kids and teens in the 90s I should’ve worded it better
hamburgler26@reddit
Being a kid dealing with Middle School and High School still sucked in it's usual way, but I think we had a lot of excitement and hope as we saw the digital age grow with us. Going from analog to digital, from records and tapes to CDs to the freedom of being able to download whatever song you wanted on Napster within just a few years was amazing.
Money_Magnet24@reddit
I’m Gen X and I graduated High School in 1992
Yes, you are correct, it was awesome but it does not take away from you generation. You guys (20 something) seem to be kind hearted and intelligent individuals
JHerbY2K@reddit
I thought the early 90s were magical. The only time counter-culture really went mainstream, imo. Music wasn’t as good later in the 90s once everything got corpo-fied and watered down.
Early 2000s was fun too music-wise but the whole war on terror thing puts damper on festivities.
WasabiAficianado@reddit
Totes H
guilen@reddit
You're wrong. It was 100x cooler.
LiquidSnakeLi@reddit
I feel I was still paying attention to what the radio was playing, life was good.
catsoncrack420@reddit
Whatever year it was when you were 16-22, THOSE were great times.
onions-make-me-cry@reddit
I think the 90s was cooler. The music was better
The first 10 years of 2000 was so horrifically depressing (globally) that Time Magazine even did a cover story on it
FatReverend@reddit
"A lot of people my age who are in their 20s"
Are you stoned or just in the wrong sub?
Fickle_Driver_1356@reddit (OP)
I just wanted to get yall guys take on this
denverblazer@reddit
I'm not sure why people are so baffled by this. Your post made sense to me.
FalseQuestion7864@reddit
No... you're cool.
I can appreciate this. I was a freshman in 1991, and I was too busy mourning the passing of the 80s. Because... even as a kid, I knew how cool and how much fun it was.
But... what I didn't realize, and couldn't know at the time... is just how cool the 90s would be. I was too busy wishing I was 10 years older and graduated in 1985. Now, I'm happy that things were just the way they were for me.
I can honestly say that the late 90s was just as fun for me in a different way... living out on my own in 1997 for the first time, and knowing that we're on the verge of a new millennium. The term 'Millennials' wasn't even a thing yet.
Anyway... the early 90s was kinda late 80s with a lot of the fashion, but clearly, a new decade all of its own when it came to music. 👍
FatReverend@reddit
Ok, so you are young. mid-90s was the butter zone as far as I'm concerned. But ultimately anyone who lived through all of the '90s can tell you that the era stuck around in spirit until about the mid-2000s.
_Notebook_@reddit
Damn kids posting in my sub.
Drilling4Oil@reddit
Seeing younger people today wield nostalgia for the the early 00s strikes a pang in my heart: nobody can quite reconcile seeing those buildings come down in real time in the biggest city in the country followed by a blatant media campaign to justify the war(s) that followed without feeling like we'd been cheated out of a better reality can truly look back on those years as halcyon.
I'd take any year from 1990-2001 over any that followed.
Lamenting smart phones & social media as the bookend of a livable society looks at it from the wrong side of the bookshelf.
schwarzekatze999@reddit
1994-1995 was peak for music and movies.
TV was great from the mid 80's to the mid 90's.
Fashion really only started being good in the mid 90's.
Interior design was pretty mid until the 2000's. I feel like the entire time from the 60's to the 90's was so gimmicky but the 00's and 10's felt more timeless. Today I'm not sure how I feel about all this said beige and grey.
MysteriousCicada5012@reddit
Pre-Internet, pre-smart phone was peak
sevnthcrow@reddit
It felt loud and bright and chaotic in a way that encouraged being weird if you wanted to be weird. It felt like that needed to exist because there were very narrow standards for mainstream beauty and popularity. It felt like late 90s got a lot more aggressive - it became more like here I am and fuck you if you don’t like it v. here I am and hey fuck off if you don’t like it. And the corporate takeover of damn near everything
Aqueous_Ammonia_5815@reddit
You're right. Staying in 1997 it felt like music was getting lame and culture was getting i dunno, less "edgy"? More "safe"? Late 90s were definitely different and less interesting
Reasonable-Wave8093@reddit
Me! and its always been that way for me! esp 91-94! late 80s was the best for the 80s (87-90!)
stuffedmutt@reddit
100%. 1994 was the peak year of great music.
Ok_Researcher_9796@reddit
Gonna have to disagree on that.
redditsuckshardnowtf@reddit
I miss when proofreading was an acceptable practice.
Pizzasaurus-Rex@reddit
As a now 40 year old man, I find myself dressed a bit like Doug on occasion.
edwardturnerlives@reddit
Sorry Im too busy missing the mid 80s
LastCallKillIt@reddit
Wait, you are in your 20's? To many i barely qualify at 41 born in 84 lol
Informal_Border8581@reddit
The mid80s-2003 for entertainment in general was the best. And the internet was still pretty good with not having become so money-driven yet. I miss all my free fan websites...
Moxie_Stardust@reddit
I definitely think of it as more "authentic".
fuuture_mike@reddit
Yeah man. I was there (lol). I turned 21 in the year 2000 (conan voice: “in the year twooo thooouuuu—saaaaaaaaaand”). The early to mid 90s were a thousand times cooler than the Y2K era. It’s not even close.
sum-9@reddit
‘91-‘98 was epic.
Wyldawen@reddit
Late 80s/early 90s to mid is the peak.
jigga19@reddit
You’re suffering from survivor bias. It happens. Not nearly as cool as you “remember” it. Everything was comfortably normal and bland. Music was kinda “meh” or at least mainstream was. There was a lot of cool stuff happening but none of us really knew about it outside of reading Rolling Stone and even then shelling out $16 for a CD was a financial commitment. Internet was kind of a thing (or at least BBS were) and unless you were an uber nerd you didn’t know anything about them; if you did, you were a nerd struck into a social caste that in high school (and maybe college) you couldn’t really recover from. The cool kids were too cool, even if they actually weren’t, and the artsy kids cocooned themselves in the hallway by the drama room and would endlessly quote Monty Python in ways that made no sense to the average pleb. You still had the social strata of jocks, cheerleaders, and valedictorians, but it was all an artifice of what we thought we knew.
The internet has an impeccable memory but is just as agile in forgetting the boring stuff, the asinine, the fleeing trends that never really stuck, and just fondly recalls the cool stuff, filtering out the rest of the bullshit.
There’s was a saying that “if you could remember the 60s, you weren’t there.” If you can remember the 90s, it’s because you were there, in all its safe, comfortable, boring glory. It was a great time, for sure, but not nearly as cool as you (don’t) remember.
That said, I’d choose what we had then over what we have now.
bdiddy621@reddit
Early to mid 90’s was just amazing. I was 15 in 1990 and 20 in 1994 and 25 in 2000. They honestly were the best years. I mean I loved being a kid in the 80’s as well but the 90’s was truly where it was at.
New_Stats@reddit
Honestly 92-98 were the coolest years of my life
The amount of amazing music that came out in so many different genres during those 7 years is just unparalleled in my lifetime
The punk scene was raging, grunge was huge, rap was just fantastic and all of it was just so raw and real. Then rap got all shiney and bubble gum pop replaced grunge. The only thing that stayed good was punk but it wasn't immune to the people who pumped out manufactured, formulaic garbage like blink 182 and Avril Lavigne
AndrewInMN@reddit
It’s really hard to say at this point. It’s 30-35 years ago for me. I was a kid going through puberty and entering my teens. Things just… were. I don’t hold any specific nostalgia for any of the culture, per se. The memories are so distant it doesn’t feel like any of it actually happened, more like remembering a movie I watched.
Just_Another_AI@reddit
I'm definitely an xennial and absolutely prefer the mid-2000s / early 2010s
OntologicalParadox@reddit
Early 90’s when the punk was stinky and the Ninja Turtles were enjoying their Golden Age at your local Shakey’s. Just a couple more years till the Disney Afternoon would explode into greatness and we were unknowingly headed into Sailor Moon/Pokemon/Dragon Ball… what a time.