(My one Ryanair flight was totally fine. I did think it interesting they don’t use jetways and load from both doors. And that the safety instructions are pasted to the back of the seats. )
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IIRC it’s company policy. If they do a hard landing it marginally reduced the amount of wear on the tyres which lowers the costs of operation. May be bs but that’s what I heard.
I've been told that RyanAir pilots are instructed to land like this in order to be able to get the brakes on as quickly as possible. They are trying to slow down quickly enough to take the first exit off the runway. By doing this, they spend less time taxiing, which means they can get back into the air faster.
RyanAir doesn't make money on the ground, only when they are in the air. So the less time they spend on the ground, the better for their bottom line.
And yes, these types of landings are well within the operating parameters of their planes. As tight as RyanAir is, they aren't going to risk passenger safety for a few extra quid.
This is not “well within operating parameters
Of their plane”. This is very nearly a hard landing event if it isn’t already. I guarantee they were not intending this rate when they “touched”.
Im a former landing gear engineer on single aisle and A380 at Filton
I had a landing like that coming into Dublin. The pilots are coming in quick so they can get their fuel bonus. It's only a matter of time before the landing gear breaks on one of the planes and there is an incident
I'm conserving keystrokes. They're in short supply these days. I'm also educating my fellow redditors. Every state has a 2 letter postal abbreviation, and I'm helping spread the word.
"Why Say Many Words When Few Do Trick" when you're talking about regional abrieviations for states when people you are talking to are quite likely to be from out of the US.
I have been watching Last Frontier with the wife, which is an amusing yarn, so I did get what you meant but I will always pull up USdefaultism on here.
They are convenient for hopping about Europe in any sort of unplanned way but without fail on the way home they enforce different standards for luggage sizing then on the outbound flight and end up charging you extra if you bring anything marginally bigger than a true hand bag.
Yes, it’s a feature of the Airbus GPWS. Only Airbus aircraft tell their pilots “RETARD” on landing. Boeing aircraft just assume their pilots’ self-esteem is already low enough.
Pilots are taught that the longer they float the landing for smoothness, the further down the runway they are before touchdown which decreases room for slowing. That's what I heard anyway.
Pretty much like any other 737 landing I have been on... Hardest landing I have had was a BA 787 .. I imagine they were floating a bit too long past the landing zone and the pilot decided to plant it on the ground firm. Felt it in my neck.
I worked for Ryanair for 11 years and I can confirm that this is a typical Ryanair landing. Saying that, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. No double touchdown, just person recording the video could not hold the phone steady. It is also true that 737s safe landing is a firm one. In this video it has been very well executed.
Isn’t it SOP of Boeing to just get the plane down? But to be frank I had a ryanair landing in a very windy day and the pilots just made one of the smoothest 737 landing I ever had and on top of that on a short runway. And seconds before touchdown the plane was rolling side to side. And again from experience, I had more smooth 737 ryanair landings than on my fav A320/321 of Wizz 😅
Ryanair actually follows the Boeing SOP for landing. Boeing recommends harder landings because -- and this is actually written in the SOP -- "a soft landing is not always a safe landing."
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yeah. contrarily to this thread, anytime i’m on a plane and we’re landing, especially in even mildly windy or rainy conditions, and the pilot is feathering the fuck out of it below the 50 foot mark, i’m just saying to myself “put it down. put it down. PUT IT DOWN.” just feel so exposed to a disasterous last second wind sheer when we’re just seemingly floating 10 feet off the ground forever.
No, the pilots chopped the power due to some gusting wind and forgot to put it back in, creating a high sink rate that they ignored until they flew it into the ground.
Ha! I'm not a pilot whatsoever and still say this. "JUST PUT IT DOWN ALREADY!! Or, you know, go around, just no more of this levitating down the runway!'
My late father spent WW II at Jax working on a/c radars & radios. He refused to fly on certain airlines because they didn't slam into the deck, er, ground.
I always grease them in and stand in the galley and tell the passengers, “The screen is gonna ask you a question” as they get off. Got $230 in tips for my landing in Jacksonville the other day 😎
Loved reading this exchange. Okay, let's say someone does a 100% perfect firm touchdown. How overly aggressive is this in comparison? Like 50%. 20% too much? Is there any conditions that excuse this?
I'm gonna need you to go ahead and show me where in the 737 FM/FCTM it says that every landing should require a hard landing inspection. Because I've read the entirety of both and don't remember any such recommendation. I feel like I might have come across that in my time as a 737 training captain.
I never said the landings require an inspection, did I? Or are you just unhappy that someone doesn't subscribe to the RyAnAiR bAd!!1!!!1!111!! stuff? Or is every single one of your landings perfectly soft you barely notice you are on the ground?
You insinuated that the ryanair landing posted in this thread was what boeing recommends. It most certainly is not. That descent rate is excessive to the point of likely requiring a hard landing inspection.
While what you wrote is, in fact, true, it doesn't apply to the landing in THIS video. You either don't understand what Boeing means by a firm landing, or you're just trolling. Hence my response.
I have no opinion on Ryanair either way, as I've never flown for or on them.
I was referring to the whole "all Ryanair landings suck" thing that people say, given the "a typical Ryanair landing" post title, suggesting all RYR landings are like this, when they're not.
However, you have confirmed that what I said is accurate, factual and true, therefore I don't see your issue with what I said. Or did you just want to make up for having a tiny dick by dropping that you're a training captain?
Or did you just want to make up for having a tiny dick by dropping that you're a training captain?
Lol, you might want to go outside and touch some grass, buddy. No reason to be this angry on the internet. It's crazy that someone might want to establish that they know what they're talking about on a forum full of random people. But sure, if it makes you happy to think about my penis, go for it!
And this landing sucked. It would be a thorough debrief a the least at any airline I've ever flown for.
Yeah sure. But there will still be a larger amount of crack growth, needing patches and/or other types of repairs, as well as replacement parts. Fatigue is a real issue. I am sure Boeing has accounted for this when defining inspection intervals but I have a feeling it is much more costly in the long run.
There may or may not be any impact to tire life, I haven't been trained on that, but they are very concerned with pilots extending the flare and giving up runway that could be used for braking to soften the landing.
I haven't noticed any tendency to float longer than either of my previous type ratings, but it certainly has the capability, sitting as low as it does. If you stop pitching up and/or lower the nose, it settles in like anything else. It might be more sensitive to flare height or something; some landings surprise you.
And don't some newer planes like the 787 have automatic thrust reversers that are triggered by wheel weight sensors, where too gentle of a landing doesn't trigger them?
exactly, and to add to that you don't really flear in the 737, it's closer to stopping the descent and letting the tail drop down, not always the easiest thing to achive smoothly, the short suspensions on the main gears do not help
Ryanair treats the 737 exactly as Boeing recommends. Holding off the landing to achieve a smoother touchdown is strongly discouraged because, owing to the lower ground clearance compared to a 320, it drastically increases the risk of a tailstrike.
When people talk about a 'Ryanair landing', what they really mean is a 737 landing. Ryanair is by far the largest 737 operator in Europe, so the most likely time to experience such a landing is with Ryanair, hence the association.
Ryan Air is like fast food. Just accepting the fact that you'll be treated like cattle but it's cheap enough that it's still worth it sometimes. You're not going to die but it will be unpleasant.
I actually looked up their record. They've been going for 40 years.
They've never had one fatality.
There are two notable incidents
Ryanair Flight 4102, on 2 July 2008, which was a bird strike leading to dual-engine failure. 0 fatalities. Which you really can't blame the airline. Cannot control the birds.
Ryanair Flight 4978, on 23 May 2021, a bomb was reported on board. They did an emergency landing, and two people were arrested.
I had a guest lecture from an air crash investigator once and he mentioned that Ryanair is one of the most thorough companies when it comes to reporting incidents.
The rest of his lecture went on about how he discovered a major safety issue in the ILS causing the landing path angle to flip in certain conditions (this caused the aircraft to suddenly pitch up its nose during the approach which can be dangerous at low altitude and speed). The initial incident was a simple go-around from a Ryanair flight and it might not have been discovered had they not reported it.
Well, no. Problems always make it into production, and the entire airline industry is set up to try and learn from things that happen and prevent them from happening again. All that's being asserted here is that Ryanair is doing a bang-up job on that aspect, but almost all of the top tier or rich-country airlines fall under that.
(There are counter-examples and some would reply with that, but that's outside the scope of the bit I wanted to address, so bring them up if you have to, but that's outside my current discussion)
Sounds more like they understand that their reputation will quickly become a liability if it shifts from "uncomfortable" to "unsafe" and make preventing that a very high priority in pilot ops.
There was that incident a few weeks ago when they nearly ran out of fuel after a few failed landing attempts in Scotland and had to divert to Manchester
What? “They ran out of fuel in Scotland” and had enough to get to Manchester? You’re not out of fuel if you have several hundred miles of flight time left.
How is that relevant? They obviously didn't use those, but went into their reserve until the attempt in Manchester pretty much had to work. Which is not great from a safety perspective
Yeah but they didn't have several hundred miles left. They had 220kg of fuel left which is like, 5 mins endurance. And then the lights go out and it's a big paper plane.
I assume it means they dipped into their final reserve on the way to their designated alternate, which I think is generally considered an incident but of course nothing too serious. It‘s standard procedure to carry enough fuel to reach the alternate after several attempts to land at the primary destination and then still have some fuel left over, so they followed policy, just probably waited around a little too long in scotland hoping for the weather to improve.
I was having a look for some passenger stats - it’s not easy to calculate but they’ve carried more than 1 billion passengers. That’s a pretty serious safety record. Still hate to fly them (but I do).
You've buried the lede on 4978 a bit - the bomb threat was a plot to force the aircraft to land in Belarus, such that the government could arrest a journalist who was on the flight. The EU banned all airlines overflying Belarus afterwards.
didn't they have like 4 planes run out of fuel during the same thunderstorm over Spain a few years ago, a storm that was covering most of the Iberian peninsula that temporarily shut down a whole bunch of airports so that ten thousand planes were diverted to Valencia, and these 4 Ryanair planes all turned up there within 5 minutes of each other amid all that chaos and each called a low-fuel Mayday, giving ATC several lifelong cases of PTSD?
There were rumours I recall reading about 15/20 years ago of Spanish ATC and Ryanair knocking heads.
Be that a case of Spanish ATC favouring Iberia or Spanair at the time for landing slots over Ryanair. Or Ryanair claiming fuel emergencies.
So I’d take anything from Spanish ATC with a degree of caution
You won't be treated like cattle though, flown too many to counts with all being excellent experiences with excellent service. These nonsense stereotypes need to go.
Only airline i ever flown with that has lottery ticket sales ads blasting so loud the distortion makes it almost white noise through a metal guitar overdrive pedal. It's never been terrible but it's never been good especially compared to Lufthansa, KLM, SAS, Finnair, AA or other normal airliners. Never had a bad touchdown on those but plenty on Ryan Air because i'm a cheapskate so i used them to go to london a lot.
Going to have to agree, having flown hundreds of Ryanair flights. You dont pay 20 euros a flight and expect Caviar. All I need is a safe comfortable(ish) flight.
“comfortable, excellent experiences with excellent service”
I have flown with Ryanair a lot and while “like cattle” is exaggerating it’s a lot closer to the truth than “comfortable and excellent” in my experience.
The biggest thing is when there is an inconvenience, and also the airport/location play a big part. That’s when you really get to see what it’s like.
I fly Ryanair fairly often and while I think some of the stuff people say about it is overblown, comfortable is not the word I would use to describe the experience lol.
Ryanair is fine. It's perfectly good for what you pay.
I had two four hour flights in July and thought the seats were comfortable. The environment itself likewise, the interior felt modern, clean, good looking and the crew was great.
Yeah i defo don't consider Ryanair to be comfortable. We fly often between Dublin and England. The planes are cramped, loud and smelly (like chemicals). You're made to queue around in a stairway or even outside. Last time we got absolutely soaked, i had to change my 3yos clothes on the plane. I hate it, but they're cheap and the flight is short so it's bearable. I've never had any problem with the staff or anything. Although the buggy isn't always waiting at the foot of the plane like they say it should be. Another negative imo.
Right. Flying Ryanair once or twice a month and my only complaint is these tiny plastic seats that don't even have a pocket in the back to put something in.
I recently decided to give Ryanair a chance after a looong break and it was my worst Ryanair flight to date. the flight was almost 2 hours late, I booked extra legroom only to find out my seat is a regular seat, it was cold and uncomfortable. I give their ordering app some credit but the coffee the flight attendant brought me was the worst coffee I ever had. a piss stained train station underpass coffee vending machine makes better coffee. and the flight attendants pushing you to buy crap the whole flight.. scratch lottery tickets, newspaper, perfumes, Ryanair attendants bikini calendar... thanks but I'm not flying with Ryanair ever again
I agree, and they have enough leg-space/under-seat space that I can fit both my carry-on bags and still have room for my legs. I actually find ryanair planes to be more comfortable than at least half of the intercontinental flights I've been on. And the staff is always friendly and well-trained.
The announcements during the flights can be annoying, but I feel like other national airlines are nearly just as bad in that regard, and their pricing policy is at least as untransparant.
The only bad thing about Ryanair is they took away the little pockets on the back of the seats. Other than that they are no different to any other budget airline.
The second Ryan Air is considered unsafe is the second they go out of business. They are riding that line of "yep, we're cheap ... but we'll get you there no questions asked. You only paid to get from point A to B. Nothing more." vs "this place is held together by duct tape and spit"
Ryanair is one of the safest airlines in the world mostly because crashes are expensive and bad for business. It's actually a big part of why they're so cheap.
I'm crying laughing at this comment. Juxtaposed with the cameraperson going "oaohh..." and bracing right before touchdown, oh my God. Comedic perfection.
Only France has a CATOBAR carrier, the other European navies use VTOL aircraft. So unless the pilot is French the "Navy pilots" meme doesn't really work in Europe
I wonder if airports that Ryan air operates from frequently, registers more wear and tear on their runways, compared to airports that Ryan air does not service from, albeit with comparable traffic.
If it were possible they would toss the passengers while rolling and the new passengers would have to run and catch up and get in so it never really stops.
I unironically love RyanAir. I feel like I grew up in travel with them, they're usually on schedule (unless you get unlucky but even then it's related to other factors where all airlines are impacted), I've weirdly found their customer service to be decent enough (touch wood--i know this is very lucky haha), and the crews are generally sound. I did have one flight where water was gushing down the aisle on take off though come to think of it :D
I was also told by a ryanair pilot's brother I worked with some years ago that the hard landings are because the AC is built for it regarding short runways or runways like BHD where there's a lot of weather coming off the sea and mountains. Happy to be corrected on this of course if someone has more insights.
A hard landing makes firm, immediate contact with the runway. Gets good grip for braking and directional stability even in absolutely horrible weather. On dry days it enables very hard braking for an early turn off, reducing taxi time etc etc etc.
Of course everyone likes a landing where you barely feel the aircraft settling on the landing gear and you wonder if you are down already. But a good, hard landing has it advantages.
I'm a nervous flyer. Put that fucker down ASAP, once and let me out. I don't really care how you do it, as long as nothing falls off the aircraft. Like the front.
Any anti-capitalistism leaves my body when I hear O' Leary chat. He's literally so honestly about being a dick I can't even fault him. I think I remember a reporter asking him if he'd fly with Ryanair and he was like "no I'm wealthy but I'd send my children on the flights because they're safe" and yeah fair enough.
Kinda reminds me of Aldi, back in the day when it was super low cost. Just pallets with stuff on the ground. No packaging removed. Bare walls. Super honest. Just food at a low price.
asking him if he'd fly with Ryanair and he was like "no I'm wealthy but I'd send my children on the flights because they're safe"
He's been spotted taking his family away on holidays on them. Also, being the world's tightest accountant, after a meeting with Boeing in Seattle, he flew back to Ireland on one of their new 737s being ferried to Europe. No first class or decent seats so he laid down in the isle for a sleep.
they don't pretend to give a fuck about your experience
Oh, they actually do.
In trainings they spend an excruciatingly long amount of time telling us we have to deliver excellent customer service and create memorable experiences for all customers.
And then proceed to give us nothing to work with to achieve that because it costs money 🙃
I slag them off all the time for a sake of fun but when it comes to a quick weekend adventure to the neighbouring country, their tickets are often cheaper that a taxi fare to airport and back.
I've had arguments with managers about just letting me fly domestic as it works out several hundred pounds cheaper and 5 hours faster even after airport time than using our wonderful rail network.
Its their fucking owner sticking his massive ego into the running of the airport and its infrastructure that annoys me, its myopic and purely based on ensuring his yearly bonus.
The aircraft is built for it, but the business logic is minimizing turnaround time. Ryanair knows every minute the planes on the ground costs them money, so ground activities- including landing - are minimized. A gentle landing might add 2 minutes to the turnaround cycle, which per flight isn’t a big deal.
But scale it up to every flight Ryanair operates in a day and it adds up fast.
I was thinking recently about the days when there'd be a clean up of the cabin between legs. Now across low cost airlines it's a lottery of whether there'll be crisp packets and tissues on your seat when you board 😂
I've never actually had a bad experience with them..I'd say I've probably flown 120 times with them. It's a bus - once you're not expecting luxury or even decent comfort then they're alright.
Yeah I know a few people who worked in marketing in Ryanair and it's their whole strategy to lean into the cheap, no frills thing so that people think of them first when they are looking for cheap flights. That's their brand. I've flown with them hundreds of times and they are very reliable.
I didn't fly Ryanair very often, but the times I did I was actually amazed by the efficiency of them. Once was from Barcelona to Sevilla, and the Lisbon to Barcelona, as well as Barcelona to Dublin and back.
Not having a gangway or a bus to get you to your plane and just walking is amazing. Having the front stairs come out of the plane is genius, especially for smaller airports. The second terminal in Lisbon is really just mindboggling, because it's essentially just a warehouse with gates and a McDonalds. What else do you need? You walk out and directly to your plane.
Also they are very predictable: here are our rules, this is the size and weight of your luggage, extra luggage extra money, they are nice and efficient and really have this no frills approach.
The hard landing are mostly also because they land on smaller airports where they don't have the runway to do butter landings. Because butter landings are actually better for the breaks and save money.
Yeah, I used to use them a lot when I lived near Prestwick and they were extremely efficient and the crew were always good - I’ve had worse crews and a more uncomfortable seat on a BA flight. If things go wrong and there’s delays then they do the minimum but they are VERY good at getting you from A to B for the lowest cost possible.
I also hold it from an old timer instructor who worked as a consultant for many airlines that Ryanair pilots are the best in terms of fuel efficiency: level the plane early after take off to gain speed and retract flaps asap, lower gear no sooner than 2 1/2 min before landing, etc
That's actually a lot better than the low cost carriers in my country. Piss poor schedule compliance, nonexistent service. You'd find yourself constantly delayed for 6 hours at the very least and you will have zero support from the staff
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Recently saw a YouTube video of a compilation of rough and emergency plane landings - Ryanair was over represented... then the algorithm fed me a whole tranche of videos with titles such as "Ryanair hard landing The best of", and "The best of Ryanair hard landing Compilation", etc.
Boy......something wrong with Earth's Gravitational Pull on this field.......The Ground Effect is extra Harsh around here! And Ah Shit! We missed our Gate!
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They’re preparing for the day it’s cheaper to fly passengers to an aircraft carrier stationed off the coast of their destination then leave them to get a water taxi to shore.
Pfft, you're not thinking big enough. The final evolution of that is just dumping the passengers straight into the beach like they do lake seeding with fish
I’m assuming the final form is giving every passenger group a parachute and firing them out of a rail gun towards their destination. No need to pay airport or ATC fees then & no need for pilots.
I've always thought that they'd start anesthetizing passengers before flights, just stacking their limp bodies onto cargo planes in neat rows like cordwood. No more drink service, no more lavs to clean, no more seatbacks and tray tables, none of that crap.
I would seriously take the abysmally small risk that I can't evac in an emergency to fly international while knocked out. There's no way in hell I'll ever spend 12h+ trapped in a tiny seat just to reach another continent!
Haha never thought of it that way. But now that you mention it, the inclusion of the twerking bit always felt odd. Oh to be so innocent in this day and age 😁
Don't think they can afford a Navy pilot. If you look at some of these Ryan Air and EasyJet pilots , they look like they all just came out of university with their ticktok constantly opened up on their phones. Even the flight attendants look more mature.
No. The planes are specifically set up for hard landings just for them. When you're saving a few seconds over hundreds of thousands of flights it makes the ROI on the extra engineering worth it. They only fly 737s and they all have retractable stairs built in just for Ryanair so they don't have to rent skyways.
There's a whole team of Ryanair mechanics at Boeing in Seattle to configure new 737s to Ryanair spec.
Only France has a CATOBAR carrier, the other navies use VTOL naval aircraft. So unless the pilot is French the "Navy pilots" meme doesn't really work in Europe
My take: they are getting tired of paying airport fees so have decided to buy retired aircraft carriers to land on. This is all part of their pilot training program.
Seats on Ryanair dont recline "at the request of passengers". A survey asked "do you want the passenger in front of you to be able to recline their seat into your space?" not "do you want to be able to recline your seat?" So they got rid of reclining seats.
It made new aircraft cheaper, but there is so little legroom anyway that if someone did recline a seat you would be chewing your knees.
I’ve never personally flown Ryanair, I’ve only seen the jokes on this sub. I thought Southwest seats were cheap… anyone willing to sit in those seats is a strong individual
People cries about "uncomfortable seats" and "no snacks" while paying a flight less than a pizza and a beer.
Here in Italy if you fly without luggage, you'll pay much more for the taxi to the airport than the actual flights. I had coworkers that got same day flights to Sicily on saturday just to spend the day at the beach.
Ryanair is absolutely fine for short flights across Europe. This summer I took 5.5 hour flight with Ryanair to Canary islands and that was pushing it a little bit but nothing not doable. Not the most comfortable ride, but the price is unmatched and the quality is pretty much ok
I’ve done London to Canary Islands on many carriers, and Ryanair is my go-to when comparing the price and quality. EasyJet has old worn out planes and quite interesting (smelly, noisy, hungover) passengers… Ryanair (especially if you sit towards the front) is quite ok, and they have the best coffees. Norwegian was even better while they were flying the route before Covid, but it seems passengers never found their route as sometimes I was one of like twenty people or so on a whole 737, so we each got to pick our own rows (but we had to initially go sit in the center of plane for take off).
Yeah they generally have twice as many flights as Easyjet from LTN or STN to the destination I'm aiming to get to, and often the Easyjet flights aren't at the optimum time.
I've lumped both airports together as a group, as they are are similar in convenience for me.
Yep. It's cheap and usually on time, the aircrews are usually great and want to get you served a drink and a snack etc. I travel on it all the time and wouldn't have anywhere near the opportunities to travel without it.
I've flown them once and that was hopefully the last time.
The check in where you're brought in a checking area that you can not leave and that doesn't have any chairs is bad. On board where you're almost pushed to buy fucking lottery tickets is weird. But worst is if anything goes wrong. I had a broken luggage and they claimed a broken off wheel is just visual damage.
And all of that for the same price as the Lufthansa price in my case.
I have no problem with Ryanair for the flights themselves. However their booking system where you end up paying the same as some other more premium carriers if you want to take some luggage is annoying af.
The EU should mandate clear pricing. Like one clear price without luggage, with cabin luggage or for a 20kg bag for example. Now the whole booking process is a chore.
$17 for a plane ticket? You’ve swayed me! The last 4 hour flight I took cost 10x that. That was on Southwest, I’ve never flown internationally and I’m from the US.
Depends, though, when I went to Madrid, it was cheaper there and back then a single flight on iberia express (thr only other option), Paris went with easyjet because Ryanair land 3 hours away from Paris
You take a risk with Ryanair, but also get to enjoy taxing at 1-200 kts which is usually exciting.
My most favorite Ryanair experience was flying from Dublin to Manchester. Unfortunately the weather meant a landing at Liverpool was not possible so we diverted to...Berlin. Because that's where the aircraft was needed next.
It was great, got a bonus holiday. Missed work which wasn't ideal, but Berlin was lovely.
Seriously, considering the sheer number of flights they do everyday and their safety record thus far, I'd pick them over most other budget airlines everytime.
They also have a reasonable young fleet, because they are always buying the newest plane for fuel efficiency. Lufthansa and other airlines sometimes have older planes in their fleet and you notice that.
The risk isnt typically to your life (well, except maybe at the hands of boozed up passengers) but to them randomly cancelling, changing times at the last moment or - as I experienced - sending your 4 times further from your destination than where you started.
it's not unheard of for the weather over the british isles to bad enough to force the planned alternate to be in northern france/germany, at that point you might as well go were it's more convenient to the company, it won't make much of a difference to the pax anyways
They probably already saw the high risk for bad weather in Manchester and loaded up the plane with enough fuel to make it to the next destination of the aircraft. Saves them issues cascading into the next flight
Ryanair being Ryanair will have done the maths on where to fuel up based on cost. Might be worth them hauling a few kilos extra to save a few dollars by avoiding fueling up at more expensive locations or any impact that might have on turnaround.
They may well never have planned to fuel at Manchester with the added operational bonus of having enough to get to the aircrafts next destination in the event of a diversion.
Well no, because every other airline was diverting nearby. Some friends on another airline diverted to Liverpool - when that airline didn't even serve there normally. There was a map in the news at the time that was quite funny; everyone else diverting with in the UK with Ryanair heading off to Germany, France, Spain and even Italy.
Ryanair were like 'sod it, thats where the plane needs to be next so thats where its going'. But thats part of low cost; it might get a bit inconvenient but its dirt cheap.
If you diverted to BER it means the pilots took extra fuel to reach Berlin, and that actually increases both the fuel bill and the fuel burn, even if you don't divert. So the cost was higher, not lower.
You may also take a look on what happened to a Ryanair flight in PIK, EDI and MAN not a long time ago, and understand why taking an alternate in the UK may not be your best call as of today, unless you're planning to declare an emergency.
I'm going off: a) what the crew told us and b) what a school friend who is a Ryanair pilot has confirmed and c) what is well known common practice of not fueling at every stop.
That aircraft was rostered for a flight from Manchester to Berlin, once we arrived in Berlin it was turned around as normal and carried on with its planned day. The cost of the aircraft being out of sync for the rest of its day would be significant for Ryanair; you would go from one flight being disrupted to 4 or 5. Instead, get it where it was going next anyway and you are as good as gold.
a) crap, no sane crew would tell pax anything like that
b) your friend is spitting BS
c) it's called tankering, and you have no idea what you're talking about
You may want to sit for this one: there are spare aircraft with spare crew in most of the bases, and MAN, DUB and BER are RYR bases. You don't pick an alternate based on the AC rotation buddy, you take it based on wx.
It was for me, too. I'm from the US and have only taken a handful of RyanAir flights in Europe, so I just thought it was coincidence. Same with the high-speed taxiing. According to this thread, this is actually SOP for them.
To be honest, I don't know anyone IRL who is bitching about Ryanair. I only know about their hard landings thanks to places like r/aviation, where you can expect a little more understanding - yes.
First flight with Ryanair, no thud, was disappointed as it then taxied for half an hour to the gate (madrid... pls), and on the way back, this was the landing, so, got the experience lol
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People are always dumping on Ryanair here, and as much as I dislike the CEO and his schtick , stuff like this post is nonsense.. I flew to madrid with Ryanair recently and home with a more tradrional.airline - Iberia and the difference in comfort, speed of boarding etc was night and day. Iberia just let people.bring on any amount of bags and they took forever to board and disembark fussing with bags , jamming them into the already full overhead lockers, for example.
I feel like I had pretty good luck with Ryanair. When I studied abroad in Europe I flew Ryanair to and from the UK around once every 3-4 months for 5 years and I had a handful of landings like this, but most were pretty unremarkable really.
Tbh I'll always defend them, I managed to travel to Lisbon, Bologna, Zagreb, Vienna, Bratislava and Krakow in one year spending less than £300 on the tickets in total thanks to them
Same thing, just had 2 flights in the last year and both had unremarkable typical landings. Was fully expecting something like this as per the meme but left disappointed.
Absolutely second this. I have about 100+ flights with them, I have lost count. I started traveling with them when they didn´t have assigned seats and we all had to run to the plane to get a good seat. I remember the days that they would not only measure the dimensions of your luggage but also weigh it.
Ryanair has always been exactly what you pay for it, and because I played by their rules, I haven´t had any issues with them at all, at any time. I dare say they have gotten even better. Add to this, that they have more leg space than some of their competitors, and their network is quite extensive, they are a very reasonable option for traveling in Europe (as long as you can accept and play by their rules).
That being said, after more than 15 years of flying with them, I have had only 1 rough landing with them (very windy weather) and perhaps 3 or 4 like the one in the video. The rest of them have been smooth, unremarkable, on time, and just easy flights.
We used to fly day trips to Paris with them as that was cheaper than a train to Edinburgh for the day; and we've ticked off most of the European capitals flying with them over the years now too. You might not get as much "care" , but you know exactly what you're getting, and like you say the majority of the time it's unremarkable and hassle free.
Yeah they're relatively straight forward honestly. They tell you what size your bags should be and weight, they tell you that if you don't pay you'll be randomly assigned a seat. It's not Emirates sure but it does what it says on the tin really. Also bumpy landings aside they have one of the best safety records of any airline if I believe? I might be wrong
Very impressive indeed. The fact those volume of flights are only possible because of their rapid on the ground turnovers too makes it even more impressive. Something like 20 minutes from gate arrival, disembarking, cleaning, boarding, and taxiing I believe.
Years ago coming into Denver at night I was chatting up a pilot who was deadheading. We hit the runway hard. When I asked him what happened he said it was a depth perception problem. You think are 10 feet up when you are 5 and then slam into the ground. He looked around and said, "It's really embarrassing."
I'd like to think there's a record out there for "max number of passengers shat themselves" and there's a little trophy that gets passed around between pilots.
I had to fly my FIL home about this time last year. He had three fractured vertebra (he's in his 80s) and couldn't be treated properly where I live. I didn't know this about them, but I'm glad as hell he didn't fly Ryanair.
It’s actually safer to land slightly harder than to fully butter the landing because it means that the wheels speed up to the aircraft’s ground speed faster which reduces the likelihood of a tyre blowout
Had this happen on a flight into CMH on southwest. I had a long layover in Chicago and got through about half a bottle of Buffalo Trace prior to that. It was a sphincter tightening moment even with the bourbon on board.
The only time I've ever truly been frightened in a plane was when a Ryanair pilot did this in a fogged-out airport at night. We couldn't see the ground and therefore had no idea how close we were to landing until we hit the runway... Everyone lost their shit lol
Wouldn't be surprised if some of those ex-military RyanAir pilots don't keep a paper bag full of shiny silver confetti around, just in case they need to toss it out of the cockpit window as emergency chaff.
Aluminum foil through a paper shredder works wonders, have to have a stew dump it out the rear door though so the engines don't I just it. They don't like shiny snacks... Or non shiny snacks for that matter.... Actually better yet just don't feed them.
Looks like any typical landing. Are we setting higher standards for ryanair just because everyone on the internet heard some idiotic rumors about ryanair?
The reason we don’t want hard landings is because its expensive. Ryanair does not want hard landings.
That was just one of his twice yearly: "stupid pronouncements intended to generate publicity" stunts. Same as the standing room only flights, bonuses for staff catching oversized hand baggage, banning booze at airports etc. etc.
This one is actually true. A friend of mine was a gate agent and they did get 2 euros for every bag they tagged as oversized. Though this wasnt in Ryanair's own ground handling company, I would be surprised if they didn't also do that.
Yes but he kept describing it as a: "bounty", threatening super strict enforcement, then declaring he was doubling the "bounty", etc. etc. All just for headlines. They pay their crew something like £1.50 for each one they "catch" and frankly it's not really worth the hassle unless someone is absolutely taking the piss.
This one was more reasonable, the full context of the quote was about how people are going to the airport after doing a line or popping pills and the interaction between airport booze and the drugs was making people violent. It was never going to achieve anything as its a moneyspinner for airports but he wants something done about coked up pissheads attacking flight attendants.
The above just proves that Ryanair exist in people's heads - all the talk of additional charges, paying for toilets, standing seats..... it's all nonsense. But the media latch on to it and people half believe it.
It amazes me how many people don't understand this.
The idea is also that people think of them as THE budget airline and just assume that their prices are always the lowest without double checking, or that they always check if a Ryanair alternative is available for example from a different nearby airport. They want to make sure that when people think „cheap flight“ they immediately think „Ryanair“.
I read some time ago it was multiple time and cost saving reasons. But it really depends on the airport layout and where they are going to taxi. Not every landing is hard, but most are.
They want to get the plane landed early and towards the start of the runway/landing markers to be able to take the earliest exit available. If you stretch it out to get a smoother landing, you'll miss the most optimal exit and have to come back, this costs fuel and time. So depending on airport and terminal/gate, they will plant the F out of it.
Other reason is minimizing go arounds. What they don't want is the ground effect taking over and floating the plane out to where a go around becomes necessary. Lot of airports they fly to don't have long runways so to get it down and keep it down.... you gotta plonk it, ideally first time, every time.
I've experienced more buttery smooth Ryanair landings than I have stupid hard bouncy landings. I really don't know where this idea of Ryanair throwing planes into the tarmac keeps coming from.
Thankyou ladies and gentlemen for flying Ryanair and if captain kangaroo can get us to the gate without killing us we look forward to seeing you on our next flight.
Passenger to stewardess , dear did we land or were we shot down .
Stewardess reply I’m not sure but you could say it felt like we were shot down
Ryanair is one of the safest airlines to fly. It's easy to confuse the seats quality and the quality of ones fellow passengers onboard with the quality of the planes and pilots but Ryanair hasn't had a single fatal accident EVER since it was founded. Literally one of the safest places to be is inside a Ryanair plane.
One time flying Ryanair as I was deplaning I asked the flight crew who were standing by the door :” Which one of you landed the plane? “ an older gentleman, probably retired Irish Air Force?, nodded in acknowledgment. “ Did you land on your own, or were we shot down?” He just grunted at me.
I like my spinal discs to compress at -600FPM. It's ideal for the human body
I boo pilots who follow SOP, and especially pilots who selfishly land their aircraft around -150 FPM, robbing me off a free backiotomy.
Prolonged flare increases airplane pitch attitude 2° to 3°. When prolonged flare is
coupled with a misjudged height above the runway, a tail strike is possible. Do not
prolong the flare in an attempt to achieve a perfectly smooth touchdown. A
smooth touchdown is not the criterion for a safe landing
Funny this should pop up just now. I just experienced a landing just like this on big time, expensive highly paid pilots United airlines in a 737-900. There were significant gasps from the customers on landing. But this won’t make it onto Reddit because it doesn’t fit the poster’s “algorithm”. This is cheap, lazy journalism at its best. Start with a dead horse and keep beating it. Most of these comments are from the ranks of junior bird men who couldn’t fly their way out of a paper bag in a Cessna 150. The stretched 737s,unlike their predecessors, are difficult to land, just like the stretched DC-8s. Because of the higher risk of tail strikes, the airplane must be flown on to the runway at a higher speed and lower nose angle. This makes greaser landings much more difficult to perform. I’ve seen pilots screw up big time on approach yet still pull out a smooth touchdown. All the know nothings in back think he’s the greatest not realizing he just risked their lives with careless flying and unstablized approach.
Completely ignorant here, buy WHY do they do this? It must be a mandate, because as OP mentions, this is very typical. Is this not hard on the landing gear and tires, leading to costly repairs? Not to mention it really adds to their image as a city bus on wings.
Not typical. Don’t spread misinformation, my experience from this year: 8 ryanair flights and only one harsh landing. The other 7 was smooth as a landing on a pillow
I'm convinced that if you ever had to evacuate a Ryanair aircraft, you'd have to figure out the entire procedure for yourself, because the hopelessly incompetent crew would have no clue.
I've heard the landings on Ryanair can be very bumpy due to the weight of everyone wearing 3 sweaters, two coats, 3 pairs of underpants, and 2 pairs of socks......
Given the way they treat their airframes, personell and customers, its actually very surprising that there isnt a Ryanair sponsored ball of flame on the news every week
Not to mention they have all their aircraft from brand new, if they were all traditional-flag-carrier-style 20 years old then it may well be different.
From the other side you could always say that you helped a pilot to land like a person holding the seat in front of him. Usually I am assisting with my legs, pretending to have breaks, like in a car. Have 100% assist success rate so far. "Thank you" from flight attendants while leaving the plane is just for that reason.
Not an Aviation expert but this sub popped up on my feed was hoping any Ryanair knowledgeable people might know this query.
Recently took a trip to Bergen via Norwegian ASA with Ryanair on the return to Manchester. The trip to Bergen was brutal because of Storm conditions throwing the plane around, the pilots attempted landing 3 times before diverting to Oslo. Although I puked my guts into a bag with the extreme turbulence and another passenger fainted and required medical attention I did feel safe in the pilots control. They were very skilled and kept us safe. Norwegian texted us before we even got to baggage claim with a stay at a Hilton and breakfast included. Flawless services as far as I'm concerned.
No such issues were encountered on the return journey with Ryanair, normal painless flight but I guess that's my query. Could I trust a Ryanair pilot to deliver the same feeling of safety and attention? I have no doubt they're qualified but if they're incentivised to land hard and under a time pressure would the experience have been the same? I have no doubt that the company wouldn't have responded with a hotel ticket as quick as Norwegian Air did but is the Ryanair procedure of landing quick and hard like in this video a problem in bad weather?
gojira303@reddit
Fifty... forty, thirtwente--
Mule_Fritters@reddit
Bang…he caught the third wire.
Blue_foot@reddit
I wonder if any carrier pilots fly for Ryanair?
(My one Ryanair flight was totally fine. I did think it interesting they don’t use jetways and load from both doors. And that the safety instructions are pasted to the back of the seats. )
CoffeeList1278@reddit
Yes, they hire a lot of military pilots.
SparrowTits@reddit
Ghostrider has entered the pattern
tiexodus@reddit
I thought it was full?
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
I WANT SOME BUTTS!!
Rbkelley1@reddit
He never did get those butts
WorkMelodic632@reddit
TOP GUN
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Kazalla006@reddit
Tower this is Ghostrid... eh Ryanair requesting a fly by.
voyti@reddit
The proper readouts there should be "fifty, forty, brace for impact"
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
I actually had to brace for a landing once, and I instinctively felt my arms moving just watching this.
SloanLuther@reddit
0 ,-10
Kriem@reddit
TERRAIN TERRAIN
OddDonut7647@reddit
PULL UP. PULL UP. WHOOP. WHOOP.
Rbkelley1@reddit
I can hear this comment
MeaninglessDebateMan@reddit
TERRAI-
BigB0ner6969@reddit
Retard
PlaidPilot@reddit
RET...
snipdockter@reddit
...ARD.
pa3xsz@reddit
Nooo, that would be WizzAir
mike-manley@reddit
SINK RATE!
redditisfornumptys@reddit
I heard RyanAir disabled that alert
ExpiredPilot@reddit
“R****d”
thesuperunknown@reddit
The RA callouts under 50 are a cost option and Ryanair didn't want to pay for them
OkChildhood1706@reddit
Why would you pay for it if you‘d never even hear them?
thesuperunknown@reddit
You must be a Ryanair accountant!
xternocleidomastoide@reddit
RETARD RETARD
Drunkenaviator@reddit
Fifty-Ten-BOOM
FirTree_r@reddit
ret-
twenty..
poser765@reddit
Flaring is like skip shifting a truck… you skip every other gear. No need for those even RA callouts.
jwrsk@reddit
Fifty, for... thi... twenty... you know what, I quit
vsae@reddit
More like fifty... Don't sink!
roxellani@reddit
Immediately followed up by "retard!", as an insult rather than a directive.
obalovatyk@reddit
“Why is it saying retard?!”
ViciousNakedMoleRat@reddit
Enschede
4lmightyyy@reddit
Well, at least not Eschede 💀
donald_314@reddit
The fireworks was also quite something... Something about towns with names like that
TypicalEggplant2374@reddit
dude!
speedingbullet37@reddit
Woop woop
that135dude@reddit
I hear this
Genralcody1@reddit
We all know what comes next...
Foddley@reddit
Name something you can hear, without actually hearing it 😂
722-47@reddit
Retard, Retard, Retard
uhmhi@reddit
Minus five
Vertigo_uk123@reddit
IIRC it’s company policy. If they do a hard landing it marginally reduced the amount of wear on the tyres which lowers the costs of operation. May be bs but that’s what I heard.
Available-Hunter9538@reddit
I imagine that Ryanair pilots get sent to some kind of torture camp if they do a go around.
Professional-Pin9476@reddit
Flare is overrated
Kooky_Hornet_3758@reddit
Fly Navy
InsideGateway@reddit
I've been told that RyanAir pilots are instructed to land like this in order to be able to get the brakes on as quickly as possible. They are trying to slow down quickly enough to take the first exit off the runway. By doing this, they spend less time taxiing, which means they can get back into the air faster.
RyanAir doesn't make money on the ground, only when they are in the air. So the less time they spend on the ground, the better for their bottom line.
And yes, these types of landings are well within the operating parameters of their planes. As tight as RyanAir is, they aren't going to risk passenger safety for a few extra quid.
sirweste@reddit
This is not “well within operating parameters Of their plane”. This is very nearly a hard landing event if it isn’t already. I guarantee they were not intending this rate when they “touched”.
Im a former landing gear engineer on single aisle and A380 at Filton
Roach27@reddit
To be fair, the 737 specifically was designed with harder and flatter landings.
This one was probably a little too hard for the average but I highly doubt it was beyond a 737s specs and into a hard landing event.
Even at MLW, it’s like 360 fpm before Boeing itself says you have to do an inspection.
Was this above what most pilots consider hard? Yeah, but almost certainly within the specifications of the 737, and nowhere near a dangerous landing.
goobervision@reddit
What utter nonsense, the strength of the wind in flight is going to impact the schedule more than a minute or two of taxi time.
And yes. The additional wear and tear on the aircraft will result in longer downtime.
decseca@reddit
I had a landing like that coming into Dublin. The pilots are coming in quick so they can get their fuel bonus. It's only a matter of time before the landing gear breaks on one of the planes and there is an incident
Lurker__777@reddit
When the wing’s shade is coming in that fast, you know you’re in for a treat.
mnztr1@reddit
They ordered the Boing 737 not the Boeing 737.
ERTHLNG@reddit
The pylote hit the ground like he hit the bong 710 before they started the descent.
jacobgardiner@reddit
Should have stuck to the airbounce 320
poser765@reddit
The “e” is DLC?
Original_Emphasis942@reddit
It is $1.20 extra for the full package.
bearwood_forest@reddit
or, like in this case, multiple treats: twice the amount of landings you paid for!
Why-R-People-So-Dumb@reddit
You've never flown Ryanair before, the pax CC's on file were charged for the extra landing as well as the spinal compression therapy.
bearwood_forest@reddit
you got me there, I have in fact never flown on Ryanair, I avoid them like the plague
Lozsta@reddit
The passengers were actually charged more for added "fun and value" with this landing.
texaschair@reddit
I used to live in AK. Any landing you can be dragged away from is acceptable. If the landing doesn't kill you, the weather will. So it's all good.
Lozsta@reddit
A Kalashnikov?
texaschair@reddit
An AK-49, as in 49th state.
Lozsta@reddit
So to olver 59% of the users of reddit, that means absolutely nothing. AK. Why not just write Alaska? The Last Frontier, Russia's Gateway to the US...
texaschair@reddit
I'm conserving keystrokes. They're in short supply these days. I'm also educating my fellow redditors. Every state has a 2 letter postal abbreviation, and I'm helping spread the word.
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Lozsta@reddit
"Why Say Many Words When Few Do Trick" when you're talking about regional abrieviations for states when people you are talking to are quite likely to be from out of the US.
I have been watching Last Frontier with the wife, which is an amusing yarn, so I did get what you meant but I will always pull up USdefaultism on here.
Why-R-People-So-Dumb@reddit
They are convenient for hopping about Europe in any sort of unplanned way but without fail on the way home they enforce different standards for luggage sizing then on the outbound flight and end up charging you extra if you bring anything marginally bigger than a true hand bag.
blinkersix2@reddit
The problem is they hire retired navy pilots
ScottOld@reddit
Yea this is exactly the landing I got from them, slam then a bounce
Specific_Future9285@reddit
Careful, they'll charge you extra for that
duckets615@reddit
Can’t beat two for one.
SydricVym@reddit
How to tell your pilot used to be in the Navy.
FirTree_r@reddit
He heard "retard!", took it as an insult and slammed it.
thesuperunknown@reddit
/me, an indignant plane nerd, pushing my glasses up my nose: Um, excuse me, this is a 737
nomadschomad@reddit
For us less nerdy types, is retard just an airbus thing?
thesuperunknown@reddit
Yes, it’s a feature of the Airbus GPWS. Only Airbus aircraft tell their pilots “RETARD” on landing. Boeing aircraft just assume their pilots’ self-esteem is already low enough.
FirTree_r@reddit
I stand corrected and feel ashamed.
windas_98@reddit
Sink rate
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
How and the Marine pilots?
iReply2StupidPeople@reddit
Lmfao
whsftbldad@reddit
Pilots are taught that the longer they float the landing for smoothness, the further down the runway they are before touchdown which decreases room for slowing. That's what I heard anyway.
ffpg2022@reddit
Going for the “3 wire”
banjosandcellos@reddit
Safest landing tho! Once I learned this I didn't care anymore
Muggsy423@reddit
They're just waking up any sleeping passengers to let them know they arrived.
Phiddipus_audax@reddit
Showing them who’s boss… which is important after all the unruly cabin behavior in recent years.
curious-chineur@reddit
Likely a retired aicraft carrier pilot. He went for cable 1 !
HoosierDaddy_427@reddit
Treat = herniated disc.
r0thar@reddit
You joke but sitting on the super thin Recardo seats they installed, it's an eventuality if you fly with them enough
megaduce104@reddit
dislodging those kidney stones
AlienApricot@reddit
What a relief!
farva_06@reddit
Someone post this on /r/theydidthemath and see if they can calculate the FPM based on the shadow speed.
Beautiful-Quiet-5871@reddit
Pretty much like any other 737 landing I have been on... Hardest landing I have had was a BA 787 .. I imagine they were floating a bit too long past the landing zone and the pilot decided to plant it on the ground firm. Felt it in my neck.
ImRightYoureStupid@reddit
Women pilots
e2g4@reddit
European Spirit Air
bacam79@reddit
I worked for Ryanair for 11 years and I can confirm that this is a typical Ryanair landing. Saying that, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. No double touchdown, just person recording the video could not hold the phone steady. It is also true that 737s safe landing is a firm one. In this video it has been very well executed.
General-Still2972@reddit
Isn’t it SOP of Boeing to just get the plane down? But to be frank I had a ryanair landing in a very windy day and the pilots just made one of the smoothest 737 landing I ever had and on top of that on a short runway. And seconds before touchdown the plane was rolling side to side. And again from experience, I had more smooth 737 ryanair landings than on my fav A320/321 of Wizz 😅
37-inna-row@reddit
Who needs a lumbar spine anyway?
doubledogmongrel@reddit
I can't see the problem. You can walk away from that landing, and they can re-use the aircraft. All good!
thphnts@reddit
Ryanair actually follows the Boeing SOP for landing. Boeing recommends harder landings because -- and this is actually written in the SOP -- "a soft landing is not always a safe landing."
Less_Mess_5803@reddit
I have a couple of friends who are pilots and they have said 'hard' landings are standard and are often encouraged, especially in certain conditions.
Appeltaartlekker@reddit
Especially on a wet runway or windy conditions.
We call this a "positive landing".
blueskyredmesas@reddit
That landing wasn't just positive, it was optimistic to the extreeeeme.
Appeltaartlekker@reddit
Truth!!
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thphnts@reddit
Better to know you're on the ground than not.
TampaPowers@reddit
Gotta make sure the accelerometers are still able to produce a reading.
ProgrammedArtist@reddit
Gotta make good use of the entire shock absorbed shafts 😏
BnaditCorps@reddit
"We paid for the whole shocker absorber, by God are we going to use it all!"
Prof01Santa@reddit
You can't plummet to the ground from there.
sharrancleric@reddit
And they can reuse the plane!
unique_user43@reddit
yeah. contrarily to this thread, anytime i’m on a plane and we’re landing, especially in even mildly windy or rainy conditions, and the pilot is feathering the fuck out of it below the 50 foot mark, i’m just saying to myself “put it down. put it down. PUT IT DOWN.” just feel so exposed to a disasterous last second wind sheer when we’re just seemingly floating 10 feet off the ground forever.
Lando25@reddit
I know it's a different situation but isnt the reason for the toronto crash last winter from a hard landing without flaring?
Immediate_Cut7658@reddit
No, the pilots chopped the power due to some gusting wind and forgot to put it back in, creating a high sink rate that they ignored until they flew it into the ground.
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
Honestly. By the time we’re on approach, all of me is already screaming “put it down.”
Capnmarvel76@reddit
Ha! I'm not a pilot whatsoever and still say this. "JUST PUT IT DOWN ALREADY!! Or, you know, go around, just no more of this levitating down the runway!'
BruinBound22@reddit
Yeah, I yell that too, and sit upside down in the chair so my butt hits the ceiling when we land.
Vaxorth@reddit
Pro strat, I've been doing it wrong!
wicrosoft@reddit
If I were selling spare parts, I would say the same thing.
smac22@reddit
That just means don’t float it for 2000ft.
mzattage@reddit
This makes no sense to me. Isn't a hard landing also "not always a safe landing"?
Minimum-Collar477@reddit
A positive landing is fine, touching down on the keys is wild
Prof01Santa@reddit
My late father spent WW II at Jax working on a/c radars & radios. He refused to fly on certain airlines because they didn't slam into the deck, er, ground.
Steezy_Six@reddit
I didn’t want to know this. My whole view on judging pilots, as a backseat pilot that has played flight sim a few times, is shattered
Drunkenaviator@reddit
Yeah, no. A firm touchdown to spin the wheels up and get the spoilers out is not the same as cratering it in so hard the overhead bins open.
atooraya@reddit
I always grease them in and stand in the galley and tell the passengers, “The screen is gonna ask you a question” as they get off. Got $230 in tips for my landing in Jacksonville the other day 😎
grumpijela@reddit
Loved reading this exchange. Okay, let's say someone does a 100% perfect firm touchdown. How overly aggressive is this in comparison? Like 50%. 20% too much? Is there any conditions that excuse this?
thphnts@reddit
I guess Boeing and the millions of dollars they invested into testing and R&D are not as smart as you, then.
Drunkenaviator@reddit
I'm gonna need you to go ahead and show me where in the 737 FM/FCTM it says that every landing should require a hard landing inspection. Because I've read the entirety of both and don't remember any such recommendation. I feel like I might have come across that in my time as a 737 training captain.
thphnts@reddit
I never said the landings require an inspection, did I? Or are you just unhappy that someone doesn't subscribe to the RyAnAiR bAd!!1!!!1!111!! stuff? Or is every single one of your landings perfectly soft you barely notice you are on the ground?
Drunkenaviator@reddit
You insinuated that the ryanair landing posted in this thread was what boeing recommends. It most certainly is not. That descent rate is excessive to the point of likely requiring a hard landing inspection.
While what you wrote is, in fact, true, it doesn't apply to the landing in THIS video. You either don't understand what Boeing means by a firm landing, or you're just trolling. Hence my response.
I have no opinion on Ryanair either way, as I've never flown for or on them.
thphnts@reddit
I was referring to the whole "all Ryanair landings suck" thing that people say, given the "a typical Ryanair landing" post title, suggesting all RYR landings are like this, when they're not.
However, you have confirmed that what I said is accurate, factual and true, therefore I don't see your issue with what I said. Or did you just want to make up for having a tiny dick by dropping that you're a training captain?
Drunkenaviator@reddit
Lol, you might want to go outside and touch some grass, buddy. No reason to be this angry on the internet. It's crazy that someone might want to establish that they know what they're talking about on a forum full of random people. But sure, if it makes you happy to think about my penis, go for it!
And this landing sucked. It would be a thorough debrief a the least at any airline I've ever flown for.
thphnts@reddit
I'm not reading all that, but I'm either real happy or real sad that happened to you.
Drunkenaviator@reddit
Hahaha, that's a fun way to say "You're right and I have nothing to refute you". Good job!
thphnts@reddit
I'm not reading all that, but I'm either real happy or real sad that happened to you.
Tall_NStuff@reddit
It also ironically reduces fatigue in the landing gear because the mean average stress is negative.
yup_sir28@reddit
True but this was particularly bad, I don’t want my bones to break on à la ding
thphnts@reddit
Oh don’t over exaggerate.
yup_sir28@reddit
Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a harder landing than recommended, even if I made a joke
BigJellyfish1906@reddit
That’s nonsense. This is just poor airmanship. The idea youre referring to simply says that 250 fpm on touchdown is preferable to 50 fpm.
This video is easily 400 fpm.
argan_85@reddit
Interesting. Must be a lot more costly in the long run I guess - more repairs and replacements.
thphnts@reddit
The planes are designed to handle these types of landings.
argan_85@reddit
Yeah sure. But there will still be a larger amount of crack growth, needing patches and/or other types of repairs, as well as replacement parts. Fatigue is a real issue. I am sure Boeing has accounted for this when defining inspection intervals but I have a feeling it is much more costly in the long run.
thphnts@reddit
I’m sure RYR, literally the safest airline in Europe, is on top of it.
argan_85@reddit
Yep. If they werent they wouldnt be allowed to fly.
Rust2@reddit
They read the manual
Yo_soy_roger_wilco@reddit
RTFM
Cow_Launcher@reddit
ISTR there being something about making sure that the landing is "firm" in order to spin up the wheels quickly and not flat-spot the tyres?
Obligatory: "I am not a commercial pilot."
intern_steve@reddit
There may or may not be any impact to tire life, I haven't been trained on that, but they are very concerned with pilots extending the flare and giving up runway that could be used for braking to soften the landing.
Cow_Launcher@reddit
"Nothing more useless than the runway behind you [and the fuel you didn't load]."
Are they particularly floaty in ground-effect? Like, notably moreso than other comparable aircraft?
intern_steve@reddit
I haven't noticed any tendency to float longer than either of my previous type ratings, but it certainly has the capability, sitting as low as it does. If you stop pitching up and/or lower the nose, it settles in like anything else. It might be more sensitive to flare height or something; some landings surprise you.
Castun@reddit
And don't some newer planes like the 787 have automatic thrust reversers that are triggered by wheel weight sensors, where too gentle of a landing doesn't trigger them?
Known-Diet-4170@reddit
exactly, and to add to that you don't really flear in the 737, it's closer to stopping the descent and letting the tail drop down, not always the easiest thing to achive smoothly, the short suspensions on the main gears do not help
OneWorld87@reddit
Other Airlines land, Ryanair arrives.
Or in other words: navy pilots are very much Welcome
usrdef@reddit
Whenever I see RyanAir, I imagine the pilot landing, and then looking behind his shoulder and yelling out the cockpit door "THANK YOU, COME AGAIN"
I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS@reddit
Ryanair treats the 737 exactly as Boeing recommends. Holding off the landing to achieve a smoother touchdown is strongly discouraged because, owing to the lower ground clearance compared to a 320, it drastically increases the risk of a tailstrike.
When people talk about a 'Ryanair landing', what they really mean is a 737 landing. Ryanair is by far the largest 737 operator in Europe, so the most likely time to experience such a landing is with Ryanair, hence the association.
Potato_Pear@reddit
Ryan Air is like fast food. Just accepting the fact that you'll be treated like cattle but it's cheap enough that it's still worth it sometimes. You're not going to die but it will be unpleasant.
usrdef@reddit
True.
I actually looked up their record. They've been going for 40 years.
They've never had one fatality.
There are two notable incidents
Ryanair Flight 4102, on 2 July 2008, which was a bird strike leading to dual-engine failure. 0 fatalities. Which you really can't blame the airline. Cannot control the birds.
Ryanair Flight 4978, on 23 May 2021, a bomb was reported on board. They did an emergency landing, and two people were arrested.
Other than that, nothing.
Bobbytrap9@reddit
I had a guest lecture from an air crash investigator once and he mentioned that Ryanair is one of the most thorough companies when it comes to reporting incidents.
The rest of his lecture went on about how he discovered a major safety issue in the ILS causing the landing path angle to flip in certain conditions (this caused the aircraft to suddenly pitch up its nose during the approach which can be dangerous at low altitude and speed). The initial incident was a simple go-around from a Ryanair flight and it might not have been discovered had they not reported it.
blueskyredmesas@reddit
That guy at work that's super detail oriented but also somehow makes all the mistakes, he just fixes them.
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
Stuff like this is actually really reassuring to me, so thank you.
C13H16CIN0@reddit
So Ryanair is lowkey testing flight systems live
OddDonut7647@reddit
Well, no. Problems always make it into production, and the entire airline industry is set up to try and learn from things that happen and prevent them from happening again. All that's being asserted here is that Ryanair is doing a bang-up job on that aspect, but almost all of the top tier or rich-country airlines fall under that.
(There are counter-examples and some would reply with that, but that's outside the scope of the bit I wanted to address, so bring them up if you have to, but that's outside my current discussion)
_Rizzen_@reddit
Sounds more like they understand that their reputation will quickly become a liability if it shifts from "uncomfortable" to "unsafe" and make preventing that a very high priority in pilot ops.
dagelijksestijl@reddit
That and planes having to go out of service unscheduled is very expensive to them
nodspine@reddit
indeed. it was a whole international incident
blueskyredmesas@reddit
The humble engine making a blackbird pie, complete with cooking flame.
Virtual-Ambition-414@reddit
There was that incident a few weeks ago when they nearly ran out of fuel after a few failed landing attempts in Scotland and had to divert to Manchester
CocaColai@reddit
What? “They ran out of fuel in Scotland” and had enough to get to Manchester? You’re not out of fuel if you have several hundred miles of flight time left.
Virtual-Ambition-414@reddit
Supposedly they landed with five minutes of fuel left. Which is cutting it very close for another go around
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
Yikes
CocaColai@reddit
Maybe but there are many airports between Scotland and Manchester.
Virtual-Ambition-414@reddit
How is that relevant? They obviously didn't use those, but went into their reserve until the attempt in Manchester pretty much had to work. Which is not great from a safety perspective
Top_Gun87@reddit
Yeah but they didn't have several hundred miles left. They had 220kg of fuel left which is like, 5 mins endurance. And then the lights go out and it's a big paper plane.
EventAccomplished976@reddit
I assume it means they dipped into their final reserve on the way to their designated alternate, which I think is generally considered an incident but of course nothing too serious. It‘s standard procedure to carry enough fuel to reach the alternate after several attempts to land at the primary destination and then still have some fuel left over, so they followed policy, just probably waited around a little too long in scotland hoping for the weather to improve.
ScottOld@reddit
They paid for the fuel, they will use the fuel
bazzanoid@reddit
Ryanair: "Nearly isn't the same as Did"
Manaea@reddit
"Why carry lot fuel when few fuel do trick?"
Diplomatic_Gunboats@reddit
The key word is "enough". They carry "enough" fuel to complete the journey with some spare in case they need to hold/divert.
fullthrottle13@reddit
You just jinxed them..
SpecialBeginning6430@reddit
Quite understating the second one there, although its reasons arent very related to Ryanairs safety record, its still important to note
scottboy34@reddit
No way Ryan air let a bomb on, they would of picked it up whilst charging you for the extra kg’s
Elegantchaosbydesign@reddit
I was having a look for some passenger stats - it’s not easy to calculate but they’ve carried more than 1 billion passengers. That’s a pretty serious safety record. Still hate to fly them (but I do).
--Snufkin--@reddit
They did charge extra for the bomb right
katyvo@reddit
Bomb fee: $500
Bomb removal fee: $500
gimpwiz@reddit
"Even if it's pretend, a second carry-on item is going to be 30 euros."
Darkomax@reddit
That's impressive given the size of the amount of flights they do. (Which is probably a magnitude higher than a more traditional airline)
obscure_monke@reddit
IIRC, they have had one "hull loss" from a tail strike.
No fatalities, but they decided to retire the plane rather than refurb it.
Blatantlynz@reddit
You've buried the lede on 4978 a bit - the bomb threat was a plot to force the aircraft to land in Belarus, such that the government could arrest a journalist who was on the flight. The EU banned all airlines overflying Belarus afterwards.
Wikipedia
I_Hate_RedditSoMuch@reddit
Still not really RyanAir’s fault, which I think was the point.
nodspine@reddit
indeed. it was a whole international incident
nervous_pendulum@reddit
Why don't they put chicken wire over the engines? Are they stupid?
LessRabbit9072@reddit
Hate it when they do that.
papillon-and-on@reddit
yEA BUT rYAnAiR FLyes to iBITHA sooo cHAVs anD itS ShITE lulz
rstune@reddit
They didn't turn it into bird soup and try to serve it to the pax? For an extra charge of course! O'Leary is slacking!
LibelleFairy@reddit
didn't they have like 4 planes run out of fuel during the same thunderstorm over Spain a few years ago, a storm that was covering most of the Iberian peninsula that temporarily shut down a whole bunch of airports so that ten thousand planes were diverted to Valencia, and these 4 Ryanair planes all turned up there within 5 minutes of each other amid all that chaos and each called a low-fuel Mayday, giving ATC several lifelong cases of PTSD?
DardaniaIE@reddit
There were rumours I recall reading about 15/20 years ago of Spanish ATC and Ryanair knocking heads. Be that a case of Spanish ATC favouring Iberia or Spanair at the time for landing slots over Ryanair. Or Ryanair claiming fuel emergencies. So I’d take anything from Spanish ATC with a degree of caution
wowo78@reddit
And that's an airline with 3500+ daily flights. That's impressive.
alfienoakes@reddit
Apparently they have really good training and pay the pilots fairly. No one else thumped one in yesterday of course. “Firm” landing.
Substantial-Cat0910@reddit
they did lose a wheel on landing at LIME/BGY not that long ago. No fatalities either.
iiiBus@reddit
You won't be treated like cattle though, flown too many to counts with all being excellent experiences with excellent service. These nonsense stereotypes need to go.
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
Honestly very good to know. Sounds like a very good safety record too.
Potato_Pear@reddit
Only airline i ever flown with that has lottery ticket sales ads blasting so loud the distortion makes it almost white noise through a metal guitar overdrive pedal. It's never been terrible but it's never been good especially compared to Lufthansa, KLM, SAS, Finnair, AA or other normal airliners. Never had a bad touchdown on those but plenty on Ryan Air because i'm a cheapskate so i used them to go to london a lot.
Manaea@reddit
You get what you pay for lol, I don't mind them blasting lottery ads if it means I can go to the other side of Europe for 30 quid
thisnameismine1@reddit
I've had a few bad trips with them, swore I'd never fly with them again. I always cave in again the next time I see the prices for any other company
Potato_Pear@reddit
Not complaining. I'm more than willing to put up with their bullshit and shitty landings for that price point. It's just a wild ride.
wannacumnbeatmeoff@reddit
Going to have to agree, having flown hundreds of Ryanair flights. You dont pay 20 euros a flight and expect Caviar. All I need is a safe comfortable(ish) flight.
Stoogenuge@reddit
Yeah but they said
I have flown with Ryanair a lot and while “like cattle” is exaggerating it’s a lot closer to the truth than “comfortable and excellent” in my experience.
The biggest thing is when there is an inconvenience, and also the airport/location play a big part. That’s when you really get to see what it’s like.
You get what you pay for no need to oversell it.
wannacumnbeatmeoff@reddit
I agree, but "Fly with us and experience life as a Sardine" is not going to attract customers.
Stoogenuge@reddit
Hey even Ryanair themselves don’t market on comfortable and excellent. That tells you more than enough.
thisnameismine1@reddit
The CEO openly wants standing seats so they can cram more people in.
thisnameismine1@reddit
If you were comfortable on a Ryanair flight I'm assuming you're less than 6ft tall
Grantrello@reddit
I fly Ryanair fairly often and while I think some of the stuff people say about it is overblown, comfortable is not the word I would use to describe the experience lol.
Ryanair is fine. It's perfectly good for what you pay.
iiiBus@reddit
I had two four hour flights in July and thought the seats were comfortable. The environment itself likewise, the interior felt modern, clean, good looking and the crew was great.
a_beautiful_kappa@reddit
Yeah i defo don't consider Ryanair to be comfortable. We fly often between Dublin and England. The planes are cramped, loud and smelly (like chemicals). You're made to queue around in a stairway or even outside. Last time we got absolutely soaked, i had to change my 3yos clothes on the plane. I hate it, but they're cheap and the flight is short so it's bearable. I've never had any problem with the staff or anything. Although the buggy isn't always waiting at the foot of the plane like they say it should be. Another negative imo.
disco_disaster@reddit
My bad back begs to differ. I should’ve known better.
Correct-Cat-5308@reddit
Right. Flying Ryanair once or twice a month and my only complaint is these tiny plastic seats that don't even have a pocket in the back to put something in.
Reapercore@reddit
Honestly has better experiences and more room on easyJet a320s than BA 320s
sendvo@reddit
I recently decided to give Ryanair a chance after a looong break and it was my worst Ryanair flight to date. the flight was almost 2 hours late, I booked extra legroom only to find out my seat is a regular seat, it was cold and uncomfortable. I give their ordering app some credit but the coffee the flight attendant brought me was the worst coffee I ever had. a piss stained train station underpass coffee vending machine makes better coffee. and the flight attendants pushing you to buy crap the whole flight.. scratch lottery tickets, newspaper, perfumes, Ryanair attendants bikini calendar... thanks but I'm not flying with Ryanair ever again
nomellamesprincesa@reddit
I agree, and they have enough leg-space/under-seat space that I can fit both my carry-on bags and still have room for my legs. I actually find ryanair planes to be more comfortable than at least half of the intercontinental flights I've been on. And the staff is always friendly and well-trained.
The announcements during the flights can be annoying, but I feel like other national airlines are nearly just as bad in that regard, and their pricing policy is at least as untransparant.
BaldyBaldyBouncer@reddit
The only bad thing about Ryanair is they took away the little pockets on the back of the seats. Other than that they are no different to any other budget airline.
RealMefistyo@reddit
Ah they does that on purpose to signal this flight was not profitable enough.
AReaver@reddit
How does landing like that improve costs?
ksobby@reddit
The second Ryan Air is considered unsafe is the second they go out of business. They are riding that line of "yep, we're cheap ... but we'll get you there no questions asked. You only paid to get from point A to B. Nothing more." vs "this place is held together by duct tape and spit"
USMCLee@reddit
My oldest used Ryan Air while flying around Europe one summer. That was pretty much how she described it.
The other thing was 'read the rules and follow them, don't try to outsmart them'
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
I love this comparison. Flew MiamiAir once… landing was quite similar.
thisnameismine1@reddit
Ryanair is one of the safest airlines in the world mostly because crashes are expensive and bad for business. It's actually a big part of why they're so cheap.
nietzsche_niche@reddit
I thought their safe word is sinkrate?
Maxele@reddit
I bet the safe word is buzz SINK RATE buzz
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
My safe word is retard.
Nkechinyerembi@reddit
Somewhere between the callouts screaming over themselves and Betty yelling "TERRAIN! TERRAIN!" is the safe word.
Drunkenaviator@reddit
The RA callout voice went straight from 50 to 10.
dubov@reddit
I imagine Michael O'Leary jumping on the radio from operational control saying "JUST PUT THE FOOKIN PLANE ON THE FOOKIN GROUND NOW"
nodspine@reddit
the safe word is "Go Arround"
xhingelbirt@reddit
This comment made my day awesome 👍
Reapercore@reddit
They paid for the whole oleo strut so they’re damn well going to use the whole oleo strut
cmoked@reddit
I've never had a rough landing with air India, tbh
quillseek@reddit
I'm crying laughing at this comment. Juxtaposed with the cameraperson going "oaohh..." and bracing right before touchdown, oh my God. Comedic perfection.
Outrageous_Cut_6179@reddit
I SAID “RED!”
TitanFlood@reddit
My safe word on a hard landing is 'shit!' but can confirm the pilot does not care
blueskyredmesas@reddit
Arrive in that the chance that you don't land but still get to your destination is higher than usual.
Raaazzle@reddit
I dated an attendant who clued me in to the Navy vs. Air Force landings...
wallis-simpson@reddit
lol they land like they’re trying to catch the cable on a carrier
OddDonut7647@reddit
Came to make a "navy pilot" joke. It's alread covered. Leaving happy. :)
The-goobie@reddit
Did we just land or were we shot down?
Rollover__Hazard@reddit
Better check you didn’t just hit the first wire on a carrier. Ryanair wouldn’t hesitate to conscript your ass if it saved them a buck
ebonyseraphim@reddit
I only fly Digital Combat Simulator and I understood that Navy pilot reference 🤣
mmm1441@reddit
They hit the third trip wire. What’s the problem? Lol
viperlemondemon@reddit
I think Ryanair only hires navy pilots and forgets to tell them it doesn’t need to have a tailhook
ksobby@reddit
If they didn't want that, they wouldn't put shock absorbers on the landing gear.
Flaxinator@reddit
Only France has a CATOBAR carrier, the other European navies use VTOL aircraft. So unless the pilot is French the "Navy pilots" meme doesn't really work in Europe
xdr567@reddit
The seats sre an homage to the Blue Angels
Mrsparkles7100@reddit
Every landing a Superhero landing
Lois720@reddit
Just making sure the landing gear pressure switch engages
SuperHeavyHydrogen@reddit
Navy pilot huh
Doom2pro@reddit
Can't be good for the life of the hull...
abeepak1@reddit
I wonder if airports that Ryan air operates from frequently, registers more wear and tear on their runways, compared to airports that Ryan air does not service from, albeit with comparable traffic.
Personal_Question974@reddit
Apparently the reason behind the harsh landings is that they have a very tight schedule and need to leave the runway as soon as possible.
Immediate_Cut7658@reddit
If that were true, they'd have to pay their pilots a lot more to jeopardize their 100k licenses, which they cant do as a low cost carrier
AlgaeDonut@reddit
If it were possible they would toss the passengers while rolling and the new passengers would have to run and catch up and get in so it never really stops.
Castun@reddit
"Aim for the bushes"
glumanda12@reddit
It’s because smooth lading warms up breaks to higher temperature, which means higher wear and tear.
All planes must leave runway as soon as possible.
denzik@reddit
Haha but isn't there a better in between than putting it down like this? Or do you need to be a bit aggressive to get the nose down?
NordschleifeLover@reddit
And to reduce flare, they often fly into smaller airports with shorter runways.
Merdaviglioso@reddit
Firm landings are explicitly recommended by Boeing in the 737 FCTM.
BabiesatemydingoNSW@reddit
Grab that 3-wire, Maverick!
Buglepost@reddit
Hey, cut the pilot some slack. You try landing when you’re drunk!
TheCanadianShield99@reddit
Fuck a duck…hit the deck!
Severe_Accountant108@reddit
"I paid for the whole suspension... I'M GONNA USE THE WHOLE SUSPENSION!"
Candenti_Papilios@reddit
Anytime a pilot lands like this I always say "Navy huh?" on the way out. The insinuation is not subtle..
mamaujeni@reddit
I unironically love RyanAir. I feel like I grew up in travel with them, they're usually on schedule (unless you get unlucky but even then it's related to other factors where all airlines are impacted), I've weirdly found their customer service to be decent enough (touch wood--i know this is very lucky haha), and the crews are generally sound. I did have one flight where water was gushing down the aisle on take off though come to think of it :D
I was also told by a ryanair pilot's brother I worked with some years ago that the hard landings are because the AC is built for it regarding short runways or runways like BHD where there's a lot of weather coming off the sea and mountains. Happy to be corrected on this of course if someone has more insights.
Vince_IRL@reddit
Hard landings are usually safe landings.
A hard landing makes firm, immediate contact with the runway. Gets good grip for braking and directional stability even in absolutely horrible weather. On dry days it enables very hard braking for an early turn off, reducing taxi time etc etc etc.
Of course everyone likes a landing where you barely feel the aircraft settling on the landing gear and you wonder if you are down already. But a good, hard landing has it advantages.
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
I'm a nervous flyer. Put that fucker down ASAP, once and let me out. I don't really care how you do it, as long as nothing falls off the aircraft. Like the front.
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
THANK YOU! I’m not the only one!
LibelleFairy@reddit
they don't pretend to give a fuck about your experience, and there's something refreshingly honest about that
their safety record is good, too
NoKatyDidnt@reddit
I would actually prefer they not pretend to care! That’s refreshing as hell.
lovely-cans@reddit
Any anti-capitalistism leaves my body when I hear O' Leary chat. He's literally so honestly about being a dick I can't even fault him. I think I remember a reporter asking him if he'd fly with Ryanair and he was like "no I'm wealthy but I'd send my children on the flights because they're safe" and yeah fair enough.
Independent_Bowl_680@reddit
Kinda reminds me of Aldi, back in the day when it was super low cost. Just pallets with stuff on the ground. No packaging removed. Bare walls. Super honest. Just food at a low price.
r0thar@reddit
He's been spotted taking his family away on holidays on them. Also, being the world's tightest accountant, after a meeting with Boeing in Seattle, he flew back to Ireland on one of their new 737s being ferried to Europe. No first class or decent seats so he laid down in the isle for a sleep.
BeanRaider@reddit
Cheap tickets, my expectations are on the floor, A to B is all I ask.
YourwaifuSpeedWagon@reddit
Oh, they actually do.
In trainings they spend an excruciatingly long amount of time telling us we have to deliver excellent customer service and create memorable experiences for all customers.
And then proceed to give us nothing to work with to achieve that because it costs money 🙃
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
But unlike your big bosses are to you, you're not abuncha cants to us. So thank you. 🤗
NordschleifeLover@reddit
"Ryanair bad" is just a meme and we're living in a meme culture.
tsunx4@reddit
I slag them off all the time for a sake of fun but when it comes to a quick weekend adventure to the neighbouring country, their tickets are often cheaper that a taxi fare to airport and back.
Numerous_Cow7403@reddit
Back when priority boarding came with the 10kg carry on and cost 20 quid yeah,nowadays if there’s any other option for airlines I’ll usually take it
wannacumnbeatmeoff@reddit
My flights back for work from Southern Spain are cheaper than my workmates train ticket from Norwich to London.
Jaggedmallard26@reddit
I've had arguments with managers about just letting me fly domestic as it works out several hundred pounds cheaper and 5 hours faster even after airport time than using our wonderful rail network.
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
Pretty sure I could have once flown to Singapore during the time it took to take the train to Plymouth.
intern_steve@reddit
Your coworker should consider flying from Norwich. Easy peasy.
wannacumnbeatmeoff@reddit
Railway Operators hate this one simple trick!
wannacumnbeatmeoff@reddit
Ryanair are fine, O'Leary is an asshole though.
Altruistic_While_621@reddit
Its their fucking owner sticking his massive ego into the running of the airport and its infrastructure that annoys me, its myopic and purely based on ensuring his yearly bonus.
trav_golfs@reddit
I’d argue it’s less meme and more a core staple of their marketing.
mamaujeni@reddit
I do enjoy the Irish comedian that does videos of RyanAir vs Aer Lingus landings into Dublin :D (I think his name is Carl Mullan).
TaskForceCausality@reddit
The aircraft is built for it, but the business logic is minimizing turnaround time. Ryanair knows every minute the planes on the ground costs them money, so ground activities- including landing - are minimized. A gentle landing might add 2 minutes to the turnaround cycle, which per flight isn’t a big deal.
But scale it up to every flight Ryanair operates in a day and it adds up fast.
mamaujeni@reddit
Makes sense! Thanks :)
I was thinking recently about the days when there'd be a clean up of the cabin between legs. Now across low cost airlines it's a lottery of whether there'll be crisp packets and tissues on your seat when you board 😂
mjdau@reddit
With landings like that, I imagine there'd be a need to clean up between a lot of legs.
DontGoMakinFonyCalls@reddit
That's okay. The interiors look like they're okay to be hosed down.
mjdau@reddit
It is cattle class!
RydeOrDyche@reddit
No it doesn’t. lol.
Single_Ad8784@reddit
and here's me wondering what the Air Conditioning had to do with landings.
Illmagination@reddit
I've never actually had a bad experience with them..I'd say I've probably flown 120 times with them. It's a bus - once you're not expecting luxury or even decent comfort then they're alright.
Flights over 3:30 with them are a chore though.
Karen_Is_ASlur@reddit
It helps the stats that they allow there hours for a two hour flight.
chessparov4@reddit
Unless they overbook you, try to negate your rights and finally waste months of your life when you try to request compensation.
EventAccomplished976@reddit
That‘s every airline these days though.
fekanix@reddit
This is called trauma bonding and i think you should see a therapist. /s
mamaujeni@reddit
ahahahahaha!
DangerousTurmeric@reddit
Yeah I know a few people who worked in marketing in Ryanair and it's their whole strategy to lean into the cheap, no frills thing so that people think of them first when they are looking for cheap flights. That's their brand. I've flown with them hundreds of times and they are very reliable.
Ok_Table_876@reddit
I didn't fly Ryanair very often, but the times I did I was actually amazed by the efficiency of them. Once was from Barcelona to Sevilla, and the Lisbon to Barcelona, as well as Barcelona to Dublin and back.
Not having a gangway or a bus to get you to your plane and just walking is amazing. Having the front stairs come out of the plane is genius, especially for smaller airports. The second terminal in Lisbon is really just mindboggling, because it's essentially just a warehouse with gates and a McDonalds. What else do you need? You walk out and directly to your plane.
Also they are very predictable: here are our rules, this is the size and weight of your luggage, extra luggage extra money, they are nice and efficient and really have this no frills approach.
The hard landing are mostly also because they land on smaller airports where they don't have the runway to do butter landings. Because butter landings are actually better for the breaks and save money.
MoogOfTheWisp@reddit
Yeah, I used to use them a lot when I lived near Prestwick and they were extremely efficient and the crew were always good - I’ve had worse crews and a more uncomfortable seat on a BA flight. If things go wrong and there’s delays then they do the minimum but they are VERY good at getting you from A to B for the lowest cost possible.
Striking-Ad-1746@reddit
Safest airline in the world
dontevercallmeabully@reddit
I also hold it from an old timer instructor who worked as a consultant for many airlines that Ryanair pilots are the best in terms of fuel efficiency: level the plane early after take off to gain speed and retract flaps asap, lower gear no sooner than 2 1/2 min before landing, etc
Rolls-RoyceGriffon@reddit
That's actually a lot better than the low cost carriers in my country. Piss poor schedule compliance, nonexistent service. You'd find yourself constantly delayed for 6 hours at the very least and you will have zero support from the staff
Osohoni@reddit
Have they just...pasted safety instructions to the back of the headrest with the thinnest piece of paper?
Wow, ways to cut costs.
saxmanB737@reddit
The proper way to land a 737, actually.
nomadschomad@reddit
Getting down early because making the high-speed saves $4.37 of fuel
nomadschomad@reddit
She knew it was coming. Too bad the pilot didn’t
incognitoleaf00@reddit
any landing you can ~~walk~~ limp away from is a successful landing.
ew1066@reddit
I'm gonna say that the pilot just got out of the NAVY flying COD...
MyLifeAfterFifty@reddit
This happened to me the first time I flew it was terrifying
SacrededRat@reddit
I'll take it for a $30 flight
7stroke@reddit
Saves money if you cut the engines at the end and just let gravity do the work.
Mr_We1rd0@reddit
Pilot was in a hurry!
Retibro@reddit
Ex-USN pilot, maybe
ThePhukkening@reddit
I feel like there was a sink rate alarm going off in the cockpit.
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Recently saw a YouTube video of a compilation of rough and emergency plane landings - Ryanair was over represented... then the algorithm fed me a whole tranche of videos with titles such as "Ryanair hard landing The best of", and "The best of Ryanair hard landing Compilation", etc.
Dave5uper@reddit
Their pilots have to train somewhere
mellowfellowflow@reddit
navy
SituationNo6069@reddit
That’s actually a perfect landing following procedures. Soft landings are increasing the risks of a floating and late landing.
RB211ofL-1011@reddit
Nah, too smooth
kyussorder@reddit
Ready for naval operations
BreadstickBear@reddit
The only airline with pilots actively practicing for their carrier rating.
ImportanceUnique8533@reddit
Boy......something wrong with Earth's Gravitational Pull on this field.......The Ground Effect is extra Harsh around here! And Ah Shit! We missed our Gate!
seanyfarrell@reddit
Say what you want, but the time to touch down -> disembark -> pick up bag at baggage IS THE FASTEST IN COMMERCIAL AVIATION. I love it.
Sszaj@reddit
I flew RyanAir earlier this month, and within half an hour of landing I was on the train out of the airport.
jcinoz@reddit
Chuck it in there son!
mc0uk@reddit
I was waiting for the applause
Infamous-Weird8123@reddit
Smooth as sandy butter
jla1215@reddit
LEAL spotted!
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tdiddley420@reddit
Did you land or were you shot down?
Goodcopbadcop33@reddit
Would take this landing any time over paying what other airlines are demanding
Sum_Juice@reddit
Butter
newguy208@reddit
I was once on a Lufthansa flight which landed so smoothly I didn't even realize we touched down. I've also been on a Ryanair flight like this.
TrippedOnDick@reddit
Must have been a Navy pilot. The hook gonna catch the wire don't worry.
karabuka@reddit
The S in Ryanair stands for Soft landing!
Famous-Eye-4812@reddit
Was amazed when camera turned into the cabin not to see people standing getting bags out of the over heads 😂😂😂
Penthyn@reddit
And some people will clap like if the pilot just saved their lives
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Cowfootstew@reddit
I felt that in my spinal
FCD_Ride_or_DIE@reddit
Caught the 3 wire 👍🏻
Ox91@reddit
Flare much?!
SamsungSmartCam@reddit
Carrier landing
-Depressed_Potato-@reddit
is there a hidden navy pilot to ryan air pilot pipeline that we don't know about?
OmegaPoint6@reddit
They’re preparing for the day it’s cheaper to fly passengers to an aircraft carrier stationed off the coast of their destination then leave them to get a water taxi to shore.
rstune@reddit
Pfft, you're not thinking big enough. The final evolution of that is just dumping the passengers straight into the beach like they do lake seeding with fish
OmegaPoint6@reddit
I’m assuming the final form is giving every passenger group a parachute and firing them out of a rail gun towards their destination. No need to pay airport or ATC fees then & no need for pilots.
Capnmarvel76@reddit
I've always thought that they'd start anesthetizing passengers before flights, just stacking their limp bodies onto cargo planes in neat rows like cordwood. No more drink service, no more lavs to clean, no more seatbacks and tray tables, none of that crap.
sharklaserguru@reddit
I would seriously take the abysmally small risk that I can't evac in an emergency to fly international while knocked out. There's no way in hell I'll ever spend 12h+ trapped in a tiny seat just to reach another continent!
OmegaPoint6@reddit
Anaesthesia will be a paid extra
cryptolyme@reddit
and they inject you with amphetamines on the budget service
TenTornadoes@reddit
The paralytic is free, anesthesia is extra.
TooEZ_OL56@reddit
Honestly with my luck and getting seated next to crying babies, I'd take that deal.
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
Wait...
You mean there's a place I can go where I can watch a plane bomb a lake with trout as if it was a Heinkel over London circa 1940?
rstune@reddit
Yup: https://i.imgur.com/KSZfgLX.gif
As for the guy with the rail gun idea. Yup too https://youtu.be/HtBuNU7XhQo
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
I wasn't expecting that to be quite so... sexual. 🙈
rstune@reddit
Haha never thought of it that way. But now that you mention it, the inclusion of the twerking bit always felt odd. Oh to be so innocent in this day and age 😁
bearwood_forest@reddit
don't give them ideas, the next London airport will be London-Ipswich and it will be a carrier in Belgian waters in the North Sea
No-Marsupial-1753@reddit
It’s not hidden, at least from what I’ve heard they like to hire navy pilots because they already land firm.
Skylord_ah@reddit
Theres like 10 navy pilots in europe lmao unless american navy pilots are taking a pay cut to go work there
iwishihadnobones@reddit
Who said anything about America?
ipilotete@reddit
Precision over comfort. Keeps airplanes on the concrete and out of the dirt.
Justhandguns@reddit
Don't think they can afford a Navy pilot. If you look at some of these Ryan Air and EasyJet pilots , they look like they all just came out of university with their ticktok constantly opened up on their phones. Even the flight attendants look more mature.
Illmagination@reddit
No. The planes are specifically set up for hard landings just for them. When you're saving a few seconds over hundreds of thousands of flights it makes the ROI on the extra engineering worth it. They only fly 737s and they all have retractable stairs built in just for Ryanair so they don't have to rent skyways.
There's a whole team of Ryanair mechanics at Boeing in Seattle to configure new 737s to Ryanair spec.
AntiRivoluzione@reddit
Aren't they saving more on fuel?
Flaxinator@reddit
Only France has a CATOBAR carrier, the other navies use VTOL naval aircraft. So unless the pilot is French the "Navy pilots" meme doesn't really work in Europe
albertsugar@reddit
Every Ryanair aircraft is secretly STOL
CraftsyDad@reddit
My take: they are getting tired of paying airport fees so have decided to buy retired aircraft carriers to land on. This is all part of their pilot training program.
Rex_Smh@reddit
“ahh another successful landing today”
FLMILLIONAIRE@reddit
In Europe they clap a lot when Ryan air lands.
RdtRanger6969@reddit
Naval Aviator.
Betelguese90@reddit
Mark this as images you can feel!
Infiniteey@reddit
New pilots have to start somewhere ... And that somewhere is usually Ryanair
abnormalmob@reddit
Funny enough my first and only ryanair flight had the smoothest take off, landing and airplane. I legit didn't feel us land
ScottOld@reddit
I had one of those on mine... the return one was more akin the the video
dohzer@reddit
Those seats....
walkinTheTown@reddit
Seats on Ryanair dont recline "at the request of passengers". A survey asked "do you want the passenger in front of you to be able to recline their seat into your space?" not "do you want to be able to recline your seat?" So they got rid of reclining seats.
It made new aircraft cheaper, but there is so little legroom anyway that if someone did recline a seat you would be chewing your knees.
ScottOld@reddit
That and they can't be having seat 11a reclining to get a window
dagelijksestijl@reddit
And the effect of reclining a seat on the person doing the reclining is very limited, while annoying the passenger behind a lot.
VividPerformance7987@reddit
I’ve never personally flown Ryanair, I’ve only seen the jokes on this sub. I thought Southwest seats were cheap… anyone willing to sit in those seats is a strong individual
TacoBellyUpset@reddit
Ryanair is nowhere near as bad as people like to make out. Their pricing and flight availability is unrivalled.
nico282@reddit
People cries about "uncomfortable seats" and "no snacks" while paying a flight less than a pizza and a beer.
Here in Italy if you fly without luggage, you'll pay much more for the taxi to the airport than the actual flights. I had coworkers that got same day flights to Sicily on saturday just to spend the day at the beach.
ScottOld@reddit
Yea that's true, when planning my trip to Madrid a few years ago, wanted to go back Tuesday, saw the Wednesday flight price.. took the extra day
Hideandseek86@reddit
I also don't understand how so many people think it is mandatory to stuff there face with food on a two hour flight.
MightySquirrel28@reddit
Ryanair is absolutely fine for short flights across Europe. This summer I took 5.5 hour flight with Ryanair to Canary islands and that was pushing it a little bit but nothing not doable. Not the most comfortable ride, but the price is unmatched and the quality is pretty much ok
althalusian@reddit
I’ve done London to Canary Islands on many carriers, and Ryanair is my go-to when comparing the price and quality. EasyJet has old worn out planes and quite interesting (smelly, noisy, hungover) passengers… Ryanair (especially if you sit towards the front) is quite ok, and they have the best coffees. Norwegian was even better while they were flying the route before Covid, but it seems passengers never found their route as sometimes I was one of like twenty people or so on a whole 737, so we each got to pick our own rows (but we had to initially go sit in the center of plane for take off).
Arctic-Material611@reddit
Sub 4 hours Ryanair is absolutely fine. Now I am a short guy so I have no leg room issues ever. I am sure if your 6’6 Ryanair isn’t the best option
MightySquirrel28@reddit
I'm 6.1 and it wasn't the most comfortable flight, but it was doable
asymmetricears@reddit
Yeah they generally have twice as many flights as Easyjet from LTN or STN to the destination I'm aiming to get to, and often the Easyjet flights aren't at the optimum time.
I've lumped both airports together as a group, as they are are similar in convenience for me.
fuggerdug@reddit
Yep. It's cheap and usually on time, the aircrews are usually great and want to get you served a drink and a snack etc. I travel on it all the time and wouldn't have anywhere near the opportunities to travel without it.
Konagon@reddit
I have flown on Ryanair a lot. I honestly don't really have any complaints, beyond some predatory pricing stuff. But that's most airlines these days.
kobrons@reddit
I've flown them once and that was hopefully the last time.
The check in where you're brought in a checking area that you can not leave and that doesn't have any chairs is bad. On board where you're almost pushed to buy fucking lottery tickets is weird. But worst is if anything goes wrong. I had a broken luggage and they claimed a broken off wheel is just visual damage.
And all of that for the same price as the Lufthansa price in my case.
TacoBellyUpset@reddit
Not just most airlines, it's most companies these days 😕
Small-Policy-3859@reddit
I have no problem with Ryanair for the flights themselves. However their booking system where you end up paying the same as some other more premium carriers if you want to take some luggage is annoying af.
The EU should mandate clear pricing. Like one clear price without luggage, with cabin luggage or for a 20kg bag for example. Now the whole booking process is a chore.
ktrezzi@reddit
In Europe you have to fly Ryanair because sometimes you don't have any other options at all.
That being said, I feel perfectly fine on every Ryanair flight and I had "bad" experiences also with star alliance members and the likes.
PeteMaverickMitcheIl@reddit
£15 for 4+ hour flights across Europe sways me
VividPerformance7987@reddit
$17 for a plane ticket? You’ve swayed me! The last 4 hour flight I took cost 10x that. That was on Southwest, I’ve never flown internationally and I’m from the US.
Drunkgummybear1@reddit
There are some absolutely brilliant deals. I don't think I've ever paid more than £150 for a round trip with them before.
kobrons@reddit
Those usually don't exist anymore
Signal-Session-6637@reddit
Thanks for the compliment.
doljikgu@reddit
Did they play the landing jingle though?
ScottOld@reddit
I had a landing like that with them... they did not play it
russellvt@reddit
"Stuck' the landing!
Subway@reddit
You paid for a landing, not for a nice landing.
ScottOld@reddit
You paid to get there, in how many pieces doesn't matter
tob007@reddit
This is what you get when no one pays the flare fee.
JOlRacin@reddit
Oi assholes it's a 3 degree glide slope not a 6 degree
xXCrazyDaneXx@reddit
People are not flying Ryanair for the comfort...
They just need to put it down on a safe manner (this wasn't even that hard, no masks dropped) and get on with it.
It's literally their entire value proposition and people are... surprised?
ArcticBiologist@reddit
Are you surprised that the people that pay the least amount possible for their flight don't understand this?
ScottOld@reddit
Depends, though, when I went to Madrid, it was cheaper there and back then a single flight on iberia express (thr only other option), Paris went with easyjet because Ryanair land 3 hours away from Paris
SaengerDruide@reddit
You fly Ryanair because you must and don't know better
I fly Ryanair even though I know because I'm a cheap fuck.
We are not the same
Express-Doughnut-562@reddit
You take a risk with Ryanair, but also get to enjoy taxing at 1-200 kts which is usually exciting.
My most favorite Ryanair experience was flying from Dublin to Manchester. Unfortunately the weather meant a landing at Liverpool was not possible so we diverted to...Berlin. Because that's where the aircraft was needed next.
It was great, got a bonus holiday. Missed work which wasn't ideal, but Berlin was lovely.
xXCrazyDaneXx@reddit
1 hull loss due to birds since 1985? I wouldn't call that a risk...
Aconite_72@reddit
Seriously, considering the sheer number of flights they do everyday and their safety record thus far, I'd pick them over most other budget airlines everytime.
Ok_Table_876@reddit
They also have a reasonable young fleet, because they are always buying the newest plane for fuel efficiency. Lufthansa and other airlines sometimes have older planes in their fleet and you notice that.
ThePrussianGrippe@reddit
They also report everything.
Known-Diet-4170@reddit
it's in the ballpark of 3600 flight per day with a fleet exceeding 600 planes with 300 more on order
ArcticBiologist@reddit
You run the risk of ending up in Berlin apparently
OptimallyOOO@reddit
Their cheese sandwich is a risk one doesn't want to take
Express-Doughnut-562@reddit
The risk isnt typically to your life (well, except maybe at the hands of boozed up passengers) but to them randomly cancelling, changing times at the last moment or - as I experienced - sending your 4 times further from your destination than where you started.
jman014@reddit
That is absolutely unfathomable to me…
“Yes we’re literally flying to continental Europe just because. No questions or arguments, please.”
How much longer was the flight??
Known-Diet-4170@reddit
it's not unheard of for the weather over the british isles to bad enough to force the planned alternate to be in northern france/germany, at that point you might as well go were it's more convenient to the company, it won't make much of a difference to the pax anyways
Express-Doughnut-562@reddit
It went from a 1 hour flight to about 3 hours.
Kitchen-Cabinet-5000@reddit
I’m surprised they had enough fuel.
xXCrazyDaneXx@reddit
It could have been the designsted diversion airport in the flight plan. In that case they would have the fuel + holding time for it.
Kitchen-Cabinet-5000@reddit
Yeah that would probably have to be the case.
Still, Berlin is a weird alternate on a normal flight like that. They probably planned it like this.
53bvo@reddit
They probably already saw the high risk for bad weather in Manchester and loaded up the plane with enough fuel to make it to the next destination of the aircraft. Saves them issues cascading into the next flight
mjdau@reddit
It's possible they were hoping for the forecast of bad weather to hold in order to avoid Manchester.
Express-Doughnut-562@reddit
Ryanair being Ryanair will have done the maths on where to fuel up based on cost. Might be worth them hauling a few kilos extra to save a few dollars by avoiding fueling up at more expensive locations or any impact that might have on turnaround.
They may well never have planned to fuel at Manchester with the added operational bonus of having enough to get to the aircrafts next destination in the event of a diversion.
Merdaviglioso@reddit
Do you mean one of the -if not THE- safest airlines in Europe?
You diverted to BER because there was a storm all over the UK and Ireland, it's called safety...
Express-Doughnut-562@reddit
Well no, because every other airline was diverting nearby. Some friends on another airline diverted to Liverpool - when that airline didn't even serve there normally. There was a map in the news at the time that was quite funny; everyone else diverting with in the UK with Ryanair heading off to Germany, France, Spain and even Italy.
Ryanair were like 'sod it, thats where the plane needs to be next so thats where its going'. But thats part of low cost; it might get a bit inconvenient but its dirt cheap.
Merdaviglioso@reddit
You clearly have no clue.
If you diverted to BER it means the pilots took extra fuel to reach Berlin, and that actually increases both the fuel bill and the fuel burn, even if you don't divert. So the cost was higher, not lower.
You may also take a look on what happened to a Ryanair flight in PIK, EDI and MAN not a long time ago, and understand why taking an alternate in the UK may not be your best call as of today, unless you're planning to declare an emergency.
Express-Doughnut-562@reddit
I'm going off: a) what the crew told us and b) what a school friend who is a Ryanair pilot has confirmed and c) what is well known common practice of not fueling at every stop.
That aircraft was rostered for a flight from Manchester to Berlin, once we arrived in Berlin it was turned around as normal and carried on with its planned day. The cost of the aircraft being out of sync for the rest of its day would be significant for Ryanair; you would go from one flight being disrupted to 4 or 5. Instead, get it where it was going next anyway and you are as good as gold.
Merdaviglioso@reddit
a) crap, no sane crew would tell pax anything like that b) your friend is spitting BS c) it's called tankering, and you have no idea what you're talking about
You may want to sit for this one: there are spare aircraft with spare crew in most of the bases, and MAN, DUB and BER are RYR bases. You don't pick an alternate based on the AC rotation buddy, you take it based on wx.
fuggerdug@reddit
Also aren't these 737s designed to carry more speed into landing? Every Ryanair I've been on recently has landed like this.
Capnmarvel76@reddit
It was for me, too. I'm from the US and have only taken a handful of RyanAir flights in Europe, so I just thought it was coincidence. Same with the high-speed taxiing. According to this thread, this is actually SOP for them.
Low-E_McDjentface@reddit
I mean, yeah? I don't think passengers generally are informed about the mechanics of landings and aviation
NordschleifeLover@reddit
To be honest, I don't know anyone IRL who is bitching about Ryanair. I only know about their hard landings thanks to places like r/aviation, where you can expect a little more understanding - yes.
Tchocky@reddit
Ryanair don't land any harder than anyone else.
There's just nothing /r/aviation people love more than the same 3 jokes in constant rotation
Own_Strategy_5034@reddit
We don’t call that a landing We call it an arrival 🤣😂
ScottOld@reddit
First flight with Ryanair, no thud, was disappointed as it then taxied for half an hour to the gate (madrid... pls), and on the way back, this was the landing, so, got the experience lol
lordplagus02@reddit
Disappointed that nobody is quoting Chuck Yeager on good landings…
Tenzipper@reddit
Obviously a former Navy carrier pilot.
SmallRocks@reddit
Ryanair promotes based on number and volume of passenger screams per landing.
ScottOld@reddit
It's like the monsters Inc factory, thr electronics are powered by screams
esdaniel@reddit
It's secretly monsters Inc?!
Foddley@reddit
I can imagine screams are cheaper than jet fuel.
Select_Asparagus3451@reddit
Is this another play to save money on fuel, or time, and push profits?
Zomnx@reddit
Best way to extract more screams per flight is every flight comes with a barrel roll randomly mid flight
bobsmith93@reddit
I wanna fly with them after they figure out laughs are the most fuel efficient
Foddley@reddit
Holy crap, a comedy club in the air. Imagine that...
Cesalv@reddit
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
Here's a few extra for ya.
Dependent_Rain_4800@reddit
G-loads on the landing gear. Its like a star rating.
HoleInWon929@reddit
It gets the plane to the gate faster
I_will_never_reply@reddit
Mentour first day back
lordplagus02@reddit
Came here looking for a mentour reference
ScottOld@reddit
50 40 30 20.. slam
Turb0Rapt0r@reddit
Jesus, which wire did he catch on the deck?
mdwdev@reddit
I see the Navy pilot career bridge to ATP program is alive and well.. 🙂👍🏻
GuaranteeMindless376@reddit
Comin in HOT
tonkahipot@reddit
If no oxygen masks fall down, that’s a good landing.
tonkahipot@reddit
If the oxygen masks don’t fall down, that’s a good landing.
RevTurk@reddit
Soft landings are an additional €47.
whiskeytown79@reddit
Had to scroll down surprisingly far to find a comment about RyanAir's approach to pricing.
tallymebanana72@reddit
So more than the flight cost.
TLH_61@reddit
Ow! 🤕
Own-Temporary-3820@reddit
🎶So stick to the cratur, the best thing in nature For sinkin' your sorrows and raisin' your joys! Oh, what botheration! No dose in the nation Can give consolation like poitín, me boys!🎶
Buzz407@reddit
Guarantee those oleos aren't stuck anymore.
10art1@reddit
Ahh, see, ground effect is an extra charge.
CricketInvasion@reddit
This looks like it was not far from turning a good landing into a successful landing lol.
Elegant_Fold_1914@reddit
Nahhh average
nailntrm@reddit
Is you alive?? Whatever, welcome to
zozimusd8@reddit
People are always dumping on Ryanair here, and as much as I dislike the CEO and his schtick , stuff like this post is nonsense.. I flew to madrid with Ryanair recently and home with a more tradrional.airline - Iberia and the difference in comfort, speed of boarding etc was night and day. Iberia just let people.bring on any amount of bags and they took forever to board and disembark fussing with bags , jamming them into the already full overhead lockers, for example.
SnooCaperzk@reddit
Fire the pilot
Space--Buckaroo@reddit
Either a Navy pilot or the First Officers first landing.
Space--Buckaroo@reddit
Or it could have been a Navy pilot. He did stick the landing. I didn't notice much bouncing.
Fentois-42069-Beauf@reddit
Roger! Maverick has the ball!
Sir-Kyle-Of-Reddit@reddit
But did you die?!
kokogrit@reddit
“ slayed again , oh i am a genius “.
~~~~Pilot.
djDef80@reddit
Just out of curiosity, does the cockpit blare out alarms when you are coming in that hot?
charleyhstl@reddit
Butter. Like frozen butter
Glass-Letter9920@reddit
Hell nah! I’m good.
Sad_Balance4741@reddit
Ryanair successful landing is it :
a) not on fire b) still moving c) everyone alive d) does everyone have spinal damage
If the answers are yes, you've successfully landed with Ryanair, fuck you
DatGuyGandhi@reddit
I feel like I had pretty good luck with Ryanair. When I studied abroad in Europe I flew Ryanair to and from the UK around once every 3-4 months for 5 years and I had a handful of landings like this, but most were pretty unremarkable really.
Tbh I'll always defend them, I managed to travel to Lisbon, Bologna, Zagreb, Vienna, Bratislava and Krakow in one year spending less than £300 on the tickets in total thanks to them
acoolrocket@reddit
Same thing, just had 2 flights in the last year and both had unremarkable typical landings. Was fully expecting something like this as per the meme but left disappointed.
DennisTheFox@reddit
Absolutely second this. I have about 100+ flights with them, I have lost count. I started traveling with them when they didn´t have assigned seats and we all had to run to the plane to get a good seat. I remember the days that they would not only measure the dimensions of your luggage but also weigh it.
Ryanair has always been exactly what you pay for it, and because I played by their rules, I haven´t had any issues with them at all, at any time. I dare say they have gotten even better. Add to this, that they have more leg space than some of their competitors, and their network is quite extensive, they are a very reasonable option for traveling in Europe (as long as you can accept and play by their rules).
That being said, after more than 15 years of flying with them, I have had only 1 rough landing with them (very windy weather) and perhaps 3 or 4 like the one in the video. The rest of them have been smooth, unremarkable, on time, and just easy flights.
bookschocolatebooks@reddit
We used to fly day trips to Paris with them as that was cheaper than a train to Edinburgh for the day; and we've ticked off most of the European capitals flying with them over the years now too. You might not get as much "care" , but you know exactly what you're getting, and like you say the majority of the time it's unremarkable and hassle free.
DatGuyGandhi@reddit
Yeah they're relatively straight forward honestly. They tell you what size your bags should be and weight, they tell you that if you don't pay you'll be randomly assigned a seat. It's not Emirates sure but it does what it says on the tin really. Also bumpy landings aside they have one of the best safety records of any airline if I believe? I might be wrong
TropicalAviator@reddit
That’s correct. One accident in like 40 years, paired with the fact that they fly a tonne of flights everyday it’s very impressive
DatGuyGandhi@reddit
Very impressive indeed. The fact those volume of flights are only possible because of their rapid on the ground turnovers too makes it even more impressive. Something like 20 minutes from gate arrival, disembarking, cleaning, boarding, and taxiing I believe.
YourwaifuSpeedWagon@reddit
25 minutes from wheels on the ground to wheels off the ground, or so they wish.
Of course in airports like Barcelona or Madrid where taxiing is 30 minutes each way that doesn't work out.
DatGuyGandhi@reddit
Completely agree, not once had an issue with luggage or seats. They're pretty simple in all honesty, I find them like riding a bus in a way
Queasy-Trifle-4413@reddit
The only “turbelance” and bad landings i have wver had in my life was with ryanair, never flying with that shitty company
fischoderaal@reddit
Don't know what your issue is. It is a curtesy wakey wakey for those passengers that fell asleep.
ConnoisseurOfNature@reddit
Was this in Malaga around 9am today??
jim0266@reddit
Years ago coming into Denver at night I was chatting up a pilot who was deadheading. We hit the runway hard. When I asked him what happened he said it was a depth perception problem. You think are 10 feet up when you are 5 and then slam into the ground. He looked around and said, "It's really embarrassing."
Loose-cannon1954@reddit
You ain’t paying for Vref+5 champ, let alone a wind correction.
That said, I have 29 years on that piece of shit and am still fully capable of delivering unexpected thrills.
FastFingersDude@reddit
What plane is it?
C--K@reddit
Ryanair's fleet is entirely 737s
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
I believe it was a piece of shit, sir.
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
I'd like to think there's a record out there for "max number of passengers shat themselves" and there's a little trophy that gets passed around between pilots.
VerStannen@reddit
29 years on a a what now?
intern_steve@reddit
That piece of shit, sir.
Joehansson@reddit
Always in for an unexpected thrill, as long as the gear won’t collapse
Loose-cannon1954@reddit
Yup. We promise no heart ache except for our every day high fares.
XeernOfTheLight@reddit
Sir wanted a softer landing?! That'll be extra
RevMagnum@reddit
For the last 30ft they're all passengers
GrynaiTaip@reddit
That's not very typical.
wildtech@reddit
I had to fly my FIL home about this time last year. He had three fractured vertebra (he's in his 80s) and couldn't be treated properly where I live. I didn't know this about them, but I'm glad as hell he didn't fly Ryanair.
Skad_r@reddit
What is economic purpose of this? Get insurance on suspension?
patrickGT3@reddit
It seems not enough pax payed for optional smooth landing.
VolvicApfel@reddit
How bad is this for the airplane?
alopez0405@reddit
BOOOIIINNNNG!
Mr_OP_Potato_777@reddit
Those seats look like shit.
Kooky_Permission_600@reddit
Just curious, why are they known for this? Are the trained this way or all ex F-18 carrier pilots??
MysteriousSand7829@reddit
I will pick up my spleen on take off thanks lol 😂
bubbalubdub@reddit
Nowadays I’m just glad we landed in one piece and no injuries.
an0nymios@reddit
This is my experience every time with Ryanair. How is that possible?
Patient_Can1163@reddit
Welcome to Shitty Airline may I take your order please!
LiveFreeOrRTard@reddit
Juuuuust testing the shocks.
duncanidaho61@reddit
Thats why I sit very straight on landing. I don’t need a neck injury.
Curious-Resort4743@reddit
Yorkshire airlines, no messing, just put it down.
Salt-Dog-1336@reddit
It’s actually safer to land slightly harder than to fully butter the landing because it means that the wheels speed up to the aircraft’s ground speed faster which reduces the likelihood of a tyre blowout
AggravatingPermit910@reddit
Looks fine to me, presumably the tail hook caught the arresting cable. Wait what?
Original_Log_6002@reddit
Now that's using ALLLLL of the main strut travel!
Valuable_Salad_9586@reddit
I heard that if you thump the plane down like that it’s actually a good landing as you slow down quicker/come to a stop quicker
mikasjoman@reddit
There's no landing like a cattle class landing!
Dynamo24@reddit
Had this happen on a flight into CMH on southwest. I had a long layover in Chicago and got through about half a bottle of Buffalo Trace prior to that. It was a sphincter tightening moment even with the bourbon on board.
ALLCAPS-ONLY@reddit
The only time I've ever truly been frightened in a plane was when a Ryanair pilot did this in a fogged-out airport at night. We couldn't see the ground and therefore had no idea how close we were to landing until we hit the runway... Everyone lost their shit lol
Murky-Version8225@reddit
BishoxX@reddit
We dont got no flares we aint a fighter jet , sir
Capnmarvel76@reddit
Wouldn't be surprised if some of those ex-military RyanAir pilots don't keep a paper bag full of shiny silver confetti around, just in case they need to toss it out of the cockpit window as emergency chaff.
GulfofMaineLobsters@reddit
Aluminum foil through a paper shredder works wonders, have to have a stew dump it out the rear door though so the engines don't I just it. They don't like shiny snacks... Or non shiny snacks for that matter.... Actually better yet just don't feed them.
runaway_slav3@reddit
He's talking about lifting the front of the plane to show down on final descent.
haerski@reddit
We need to talk about your flair
BishoxX@reddit
I know, im the character in the comic
Babna_123@reddit
lol
Ok_Proof5782@reddit
Airplane go on ground now?
Acceptable-Ad-9464@reddit
Old navy pilot
TechTechOnATechDeck@reddit
Dudes landing the plane like he’s in Die Hard 2
luv2gro@reddit
It’s not the pilots fault it’s the asphalt
ButlerKevind@reddit
Let me guess. Pilot is a former Navy aviator having flashbacks of a carrier landing?
paxparty@reddit
I just want to buy a scratch card, ok?
hhfugrr3@reddit
Pylote gives them two landings for the price of one and they didn't even clap. Sad.
Background-Hand-3640@reddit
Auto Pilot saves money.
usernotfound1975@reddit
Did you land or were you shot down???🤣
kingoflint282@reddit
Butter… that is actively being churned
Tajandoen@reddit
The “L” in “Ryanair” stands for “Luxury”; the “C” for “Comfort”.
MarkedlyMark@reddit
Haven't used them for many years. Can't believe they still have that horrible yellow plastic shoved in your face.
Rally_Sport@reddit
Soon you will be standing !
Gen8Master@reddit
Did you pay for the soft landing package? Then why complain?
vinse81@reddit
Other airlines - prepare for landing
Ryanair - brace for impact
81Horse@reddit
Where’s the problem? This is not even reportable as a hard landing.
OnePragmatic@reddit
No drunken shoutings... ?
ExplrDiscvr@reddit
when the plane is 2 hours and 58 minutes late...
SparrowTits@reddit
Gear down, flaps down, hook down, call the ball
getoffmylawnlarry@reddit
Love all the navy aviator memes
ChiemseeViking@reddit
I‘m just gone leave this here:
https://youtube.com/shorts/BRgF4XjcVww?si=xZMNnUIlrUjOXP9V
wenoc@reddit
Looks like any typical landing. Are we setting higher standards for ryanair just because everyone on the internet heard some idiotic rumors about ryanair?
The reason we don’t want hard landings is because its expensive. Ryanair does not want hard landings.
GUNGHO917@reddit
Any landing u can walk away from….I guess 👀
TacTyger@reddit
Ryanair: " Some slight turbulence "
Passengers: " Ummm we are landing "
Ryanair: " yes "
mongbeany@reddit
They really don’t seem to give a damn about their planes do they.
Express-Way9295@reddit
But how much does it cost to use the lavatory?
Accurate_GBAD@reddit
You jest but Michael O'Leary did suggest introducing a charge for using the toilets, and removing toilets completely on shorter flights.
fuggerdug@reddit
That was just one of his twice yearly: "stupid pronouncements intended to generate publicity" stunts. Same as the standing room only flights, bonuses for staff catching oversized hand baggage, banning booze at airports etc. etc.
YourwaifuSpeedWagon@reddit
This one is actually true. A friend of mine was a gate agent and they did get 2 euros for every bag they tagged as oversized. Though this wasnt in Ryanair's own ground handling company, I would be surprised if they didn't also do that.
fuggerdug@reddit
Yes but he kept describing it as a: "bounty", threatening super strict enforcement, then declaring he was doubling the "bounty", etc. etc. All just for headlines. They pay their crew something like £1.50 for each one they "catch" and frankly it's not really worth the hassle unless someone is absolutely taking the piss.
Capnmarvel76@reddit
The idea of SRO flights legitimately made me laugh out loud.
Jaggedmallard26@reddit
This one was more reasonable, the full context of the quote was about how people are going to the airport after doing a line or popping pills and the interaction between airport booze and the drugs was making people violent. It was never going to achieve anything as its a moneyspinner for airports but he wants something done about coked up pissheads attacking flight attendants.
Austifol@reddit
This!
The above just proves that Ryanair exist in people's heads - all the talk of additional charges, paying for toilets, standing seats..... it's all nonsense. But the media latch on to it and people half believe it. It amazes me how many people don't understand this.
j5kDM3akVnhv@reddit
Should force ads to be watched before toilet paper dispenses.
-_G0AT_-@reddit
First ones free, that's how they get you.
happyhorse_g@reddit
If you fall for these announcements and repeat them, you're doing their marketing for them.
The idea is to lower the value in everyones mind. The lowest of expectations means anything that is delivered is good value.
EventAccomplished976@reddit
The idea is also that people think of them as THE budget airline and just assume that their prices are always the lowest without double checking, or that they always check if a Ryanair alternative is available for example from a different nearby airport. They want to make sure that when people think „cheap flight“ they immediately think „Ryanair“.
n19htmare@reddit
I read some time ago it was multiple time and cost saving reasons. But it really depends on the airport layout and where they are going to taxi. Not every landing is hard, but most are.
They want to get the plane landed early and towards the start of the runway/landing markers to be able to take the earliest exit available. If you stretch it out to get a smoother landing, you'll miss the most optimal exit and have to come back, this costs fuel and time. So depending on airport and terminal/gate, they will plant the F out of it.
Other reason is minimizing go arounds. What they don't want is the ground effect taking over and floating the plane out to where a go around becomes necessary. Lot of airports they fly to don't have long runways so to get it down and keep it down.... you gotta plonk it, ideally first time, every time.
hvt318@reddit
K
SillyDeersFloppyEars@reddit
I've experienced more buttery smooth Ryanair landings than I have stupid hard bouncy landings. I really don't know where this idea of Ryanair throwing planes into the tarmac keeps coming from.
GVSLV@reddit
Amazing what airplane can take
ardicli2000@reddit
What would be the effect of such a hard landing on airplane airframe...
nuttnurse@reddit
Thankyou ladies and gentlemen for flying Ryanair and if captain kangaroo can get us to the gate without killing us we look forward to seeing you on our next flight.
Passenger to stewardess , dear did we land or were we shot down .
Stewardess reply I’m not sure but you could say it felt like we were shot down
RavingGooseInsultor@reddit
That one yelp was super funny 🤭
nomysta@reddit
Retard, retard, retard.
Frap_Gadz@reddit
The "we've paid for the landing gear so we're going to use all of it" approach
bedlog@reddit
I will always associate yellow with dirt cheap
internetgoober@reddit
Ryanair is one of the safest airlines to fly. It's easy to confuse the seats quality and the quality of ones fellow passengers onboard with the quality of the planes and pilots but Ryanair hasn't had a single fatal accident EVER since it was founded. Literally one of the safest places to be is inside a Ryanair plane.
NeuerdingsBikerHallo@reddit
That is wiiild, how are they allowed to pilot such big machines
Snoo92570@reddit
That is the autopilot. So the pilot was either not willing to do sth or he just couldnt in that situation. Nothing to fear.
CrappyTan69@reddit
Going to use all the suspension travel I paid for!
ceduljee@reddit
The pilots exchanged landing flare for flair... Maybe they thought they were landing on a carrier, lol.
NotDazedorConfused@reddit
One time flying Ryanair as I was deplaning I asked the flight crew who were standing by the door :” Which one of you landed the plane? “ an older gentleman, probably retired Irish Air Force?, nodded in acknowledgment. “ Did you land on your own, or were we shot down?” He just grunted at me.
PopeBlackBeard@reddit
Because why flare?
DOOGIEOHIO@reddit
Navy for sure
throw_away_17381@reddit
👏👏👏👏👏👏
mrbluetrain@reddit
they fly them planes like rental cars
navylostboy@reddit
Former carrier pilot
Benniisan@reddit
Never flown Ryanair and not planing to do so. I guess they're fine and you get what you pay for, but still...
jakellerVi@reddit
Hard landing exceedance every time. Gotta make sure those maintainers earn their paycheck 🥴
maybethisiswrong@reddit
In pilot training we would get comments on our landings from the runway observers that was an instructor pilot.
Landings like this would get a “Welcome aboard Ensign”
Watch an F-18 practice a carrier landing on land. It’s this recording exactly
SippsMccree@reddit
"you know I think this pilot might be ex-military"
flynheavy@reddit
Former navy pilot
Initial_Insurance585@reddit
“That’s one way to land a plane” the DPE during my PPL checkride. BUT it was no where near this 🤣
I ended up passing that checkride also.
j5kDM3akVnhv@reddit
We had crosswind gusting to 19 knots the day I did mine in C172. I thought I failed immediately by even thinking of continuing with the briefing.
DPEs have balls of steel.
sniper1rfa@reddit
I mean, the objective is to land the plane. You either get to check the box or not. It all looks the same on paper.
RebelliousDutch@reddit
We paid for the entire shock absorber, we’re gonna use the entire shock absorber damnit.
Direct-Shift-5788@reddit
Bro is looking for that 3rd wire
PygmeePony@reddit
Should've paid for the soft landing.
arunnairks@reddit
What guy a Navy Pilot?
pmo09@reddit
Should have paid for the smooth landing
the_humpy_one@reddit
Is this midway, Chicago? That runway is super short and they land hard every time.
FlyByPC@reddit
Fiftyfortythirtytwentyten BOOM
betahaxorz@reddit
Ryanair hasn’t had one fatal accident lol
Eoghanii@reddit
Ryanair are the definition of you get what you pay for and they're still open of the biggest airlines in the world.
You can't complain and they don't hide what they are
Muskratisdikrider@reddit
omg looks guys, a plane landed safely and all the passengers made it to their destination or layover. wow!
Admirable-Ad2425@reddit
All their pilots are coming from the Navy. /s
Recent_Fisherman311@reddit
Thanks for grabbing the back of my seat! /s
PresentationJumpy101@reddit
Pretty much me in any D simulator
kr0nik0@reddit
I like my spinal discs to compress at -600FPM. It's ideal for the human body
I boo pilots who follow SOP, and especially pilots who selfishly land their aircraft around -150 FPM, robbing me off a free backiotomy.
No idea what you guys are complaining about
TurboCaca121@reddit
No clapping?
Fantastic_Pie5655@reddit
What? Looks perfectly benidormal to me
5p4c3c4t5@reddit
Same with Austrian Airlines…
XilentExcision@reddit
Next up, catapult launch from terminal C gate 8
pnw_ullr@reddit
Get into an emergency position! Head down! Brace, brace, brace!
babihrse@reddit
They've been doing that for a few years now just one big bang fuck hovering and bouncing.
linear_accelerator@reddit
"Getting you there with (no) flare, we're Ryanair!"
ficiek@reddit
charcarod0n@reddit
Is 37 pieces of flare considered prolonged glare?
SignalCharlie@reddit
Must have been a fellow carrier pilot…!
Shytalk123@reddit
Slam that thing into the ground
Nublar_Repair_Man@reddit
0 fatal accidents with RyanAir tho
CARCaptainToastman@reddit
Textbook aircraft carrier landing. 10/10, no notes.
Jackson_Cook@reddit
Sink Rate
Sink Rate
Pull Up
Pull Up
F6613E0A-02D6-44CB-A@reddit
Just remember to pick up your dental fillings off the floor
JunkiesAndWhores@reddit
With Ryanair I'm never sure if we landed or were shot down.
melancholy_dood@reddit
"drop it like it's hot, drop it like it's hot!..."
King_Olaf_thebastard@reddit
A good landing is any landing where you can use the aircraft again
BillMaleficent9400@reddit
The could at least do a carrier break before slamming it down.
Snoo62043@reddit
I'm just amazed at how much abuse their planes can take and still operate without falling from the sky on a daily basis.
KoBoWC@reddit
I can assure you that's not typical
Zealousideal-Idea-72@reddit
Cheap airline, cheap pilots
dabarak@reddit
Ryanair: "We don't buy tires so we can pass along half of the savings to you,"
CStites23@reddit
Flaring is only a technique apparently
soapy5@reddit
Ryan air screening process https://youtu.be/mCG6mLHaNr4
Jmv_adj@reddit
But did Ryanair have to pay a second landing fee?
canadarich@reddit
Dear lord 💀
kaiserspike@reddit
They do love to slam the landings
Dependent_Rain_4800@reddit
Pilot be like: "Watch this!"
SoupperCase@reddit
Ol’ no flare Ryanair
Locolama@reddit
Not her first ryanair landing I see.
mnztr1@reddit
They ordered the Boing 737 not the Boeing 737.
Real_Question_2430@reddit
Alicante AirPort jejeje
Current_Blackberry_4@reddit
RTGold@reddit
I don't fly a lot but had a landing like this recently on a southwest. Some of the overhead luggage doors actually popped open.
Suitable_Boss8411@reddit
N (y) touchdown ~ 2.0. Maybe more..))
sanYtheFox@reddit
Getting the full aircraft carrier landing experience
meshtron@reddit
Flare? Never heard of her.
cat_prophecy@reddit
The smoothest landing I ever experienced was on a Spirit flight.
People give budget airlines a lot of shit. But for traveling on the cheap it's totally unbeatable.
Gloomy-Employment-72@reddit
Good to see Ryanair hiring military advisors. Now, just remind them they're not landing on a carrier.
Malcolm2theRescue@reddit
Funny this should pop up just now. I just experienced a landing just like this on big time, expensive highly paid pilots United airlines in a 737-900. There were significant gasps from the customers on landing. But this won’t make it onto Reddit because it doesn’t fit the poster’s “algorithm”. This is cheap, lazy journalism at its best. Start with a dead horse and keep beating it. Most of these comments are from the ranks of junior bird men who couldn’t fly their way out of a paper bag in a Cessna 150. The stretched 737s,unlike their predecessors, are difficult to land, just like the stretched DC-8s. Because of the higher risk of tail strikes, the airplane must be flown on to the runway at a higher speed and lower nose angle. This makes greaser landings much more difficult to perform. I’ve seen pilots screw up big time on approach yet still pull out a smooth touchdown. All the know nothings in back think he’s the greatest not realizing he just risked their lives with careless flying and unstablized approach.
rando7651@reddit
I have a memory of the final commercial landing by Concorde being bounced too. Anyone verify?
AbsentMasterminded@reddit
Navy pilot trying to catch the 3 wire.
atomictankjk@reddit
Flown Ryanair dozens of times and have never had a landing even quarter that hard. Often had landings as smooth as silk.
DarthScruf@reddit
Sounds like something Ryanair would say
FixergirlAK@reddit
I've had that same landing on Southwest at OAK. Can we flare just a little bit, please?
geovek@reddit
Butter.
Curious-Package-9429@reddit
Slightly frozen still
Frederf220@reddit
Yeah, good way to churn
AlgaeDonut@reddit
Curd
Capital-Plane7509@reddit
Navy butter
VerminousScum@reddit
Completely ignorant here, buy WHY do they do this? It must be a mandate, because as OP mentions, this is very typical. Is this not hard on the landing gear and tires, leading to costly repairs? Not to mention it really adds to their image as a city bus on wings.
Brave_Yesterday_6106@reddit
Nobody paid for soft landing.
Dangerous-School2958@reddit
Landing assured.
LiverpoolFCIsBest@reddit
What’s the actual case with Ryanair pilots? Are they genuinely not as good as other airliner’s pilots?
barkingcat@reddit
it's company policy
ApprehensiveGap4186@reddit
Ryanair master of the no flare landing
Daguse0@reddit
He thought the plane called him a retard.
mrbubbee@reddit
NOTHING BEATS A JET2 HOLIDAY
Mission-Gregorior@reddit
Not typical. Don’t spread misinformation, my experience from this year: 8 ryanair flights and only one harsh landing. The other 7 was smooth as a landing on a pillow
littleTiFlo@reddit
That's a 3 wire right there 👍
rscottyb86@reddit
Log that one as a hard landing. Time for another airframe inspection
Launch_Zealot@reddit
Nobody opted for the flare upcharge today.
par-a-dox-i-cal@reddit
Fifty forty fuck you.
Stringsandattractors@reddit
We just ran outta time
collins_amber@reddit
They paid for the suspension travel distance, they gonna use it all
obalovatyk@reddit
Former Navy pilots trying to grab that number 3 wire.
1776cookies@reddit
"I don't think we're gonna fl-WHAM-air"
vexmach1ne@reddit
No Italian clapped
Sea_Quiet_9612@reddit
I hope they have stock of landing gear tubes
PerceptionGreat2439@reddit
40...30...20...fuck ouch!
jardiacity@reddit
That's the way it should be... some 727 and 737 need no touch the ground like that to lock the landing gear...
Various_Rain_7055@reddit
Landing any%
roasty-one@reddit
Facts. I flew Ryanair this weekend, and the landings felt like the pilots might have flown F-18s in their past lives.
Excellent_Sky_9951@reddit
I wish
SparseGhostC2C@reddit
I see that Ryanair likes to hire retired Navy Pilots
ivegotafastcar@reddit
Like they are still landing a plane on an aircraft carrier. The ground is not moving - you don’t need to catch that hook, pilot!
Best-Tomorrow-6170@reddit
100...50...40302010retard
VegetableRope8989@reddit
Indians in trucks, Indians in planes. What difference does it make if the license was bought?
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Disemboweledgoat@reddit
Sink rate....woop woop.... sink rate
TampaPowers@reddit
Though it does nicely show the ground effect coming in.
NeedForM654@reddit
"Sir, we lost the landing gear"
Minimum_Possible5938@reddit
That pilot was trained by a police officer. “Get on the ground!”
ichfickeiuliana@reddit
I don't see the problem.
thecannarella@reddit
When the pilot calls the ball on approach and goes full throttle on landing.
Swisskommando@reddit
Captain’s callsign: “Dontsink McPullup”
Skaveelicious@reddit
Ex Navy pilot flying
Alert_Flounder_3784@reddit
He was a navy pilot
Irishwilly77@reddit
came in like a wrecking ball
I never hit so hard the runway
All I wanted was to break your fall
BogiDope@reddit
Before impact, I legitimately thought the video was sped up
Debunk2025@reddit
That's Capt Kangaroo in charge ...
-Drunken_Jedi-@reddit
Was this guy a navy pilot? Damn he threw that down going for the three wire 🤣.
RadicalOrganizer@reddit
Ryanair "but did you die? You paid to get here cheaply, not comfortably"
Finbarr-Galedeep@reddit
I'm convinced that if you ever had to evacuate a Ryanair aircraft, you'd have to figure out the entire procedure for yourself, because the hopelessly incompetent crew would have no clue.
vctrmldrw@reddit
They might be a bit rusty. Because in all of their 40 years of service, Ryanair has never had a fatal accident.
Appeltaartlekker@reddit
Lol how? Have you seen all the stickers on the seats and cabinets.. you'll never find the safety card lol
acuet@reddit
Looks like he hit the tail hook number 4….maybe next time.
JayGerard@reddit
Should have been bolter bolter bolter call to ATC and missed approach go around. A landing that had can actually damage things.
Roadrunner571@reddit
Does Ryanair recruit only former Rafale or F/A-18 pilots?
Raptorfearr@reddit
Just done a bit of google foo, firm landings are apparently safer?
Practical_Ranger_175@reddit
Pretty smooth... for a Carrier landing
vctrmldrw@reddit
All these comments from people who have clearly never looked at Ryanair's safety record.
Pointblank95122@reddit
Looks like it dropped from the sky
steak_and_icecream@reddit
Fly it like you stole it.
Selfffff@reddit
I mean, I can't agree that every Ryanair flight is landing like that, got couple smooth landings.
wannacumnbeatmeoff@reddit
Seemed fine to me.
-Switch-on-@reddit
Haha so true
BradMundo1996@reddit
Butter
Warren_Puffitt@reddit
Navy carrier-qualified pilots do slam them down a little bit.
Texas_Kimchi@reddit
Bit firm.
Other_Attention_2382@reddit
I've heard the landings on Ryanair can be very bumpy due to the weight of everyone wearing 3 sweaters, two coats, 3 pairs of underpants, and 2 pairs of socks......
CapEmDee@reddit
Pilot is definitely a former naval aviator
SomeMoronOnTheNet@reddit
Ryanair is the only airline where I actually get properly ready for landing, i.e., sit straight, look forward.
Not getting another neck injury, thank you very much.
Ok_Perception7110@reddit
smooth
the_real_kaner@reddit
I use them regularly. Nothing wrong at all.
LibelleFairy@reddit
*PLONK*
OldEffort3562@reddit
I honestly don't care at all about how harsh the landing is, all that matter to me, is to land in a single piece :)
Toon1982@reddit
They won't be allowed to go-around (fuel and time costs) so make sure they get down first time 😂
Far-Young7382@reddit
is one of the qualifications to be a Ryanair pilot to perform a landing hop?
flindirata@reddit
Haha, Ryanair's "escape" is just a plot to make us all walk the runway!
flindirata@reddit
Who knew typing "escape" would summon a beach getaway ad?
CompetitiveMobile179@reddit
I paid for the whole brake, I will use the whole brake
Tontome@reddit
The pilot was in the Navy
btt101@reddit
Every landing is a controlled crash
No_Guess9322@reddit
Ezt jól odabaszta!
Odd-Painter-5656@reddit
Launchpad approves
iiiBus@reddit
Plenty of runway to work with to get slowed, nice.
No damage, great landing to me.
SuccotashStandard135@reddit
Tailhook deployed?
pornborn@reddit
Lol! I was gonna suggest former naval aviator.
opop456@reddit
Smoothest Ryanair landing ever 👏👏👏
Electrical-Ear5435@reddit
The Sounds in the cockpit must have been awesome.
GoProne@reddit
Flaring costs extra.
According_Leek_8174@reddit
No runway excursion here!
betam4x@reddit
Southwest did this to me in the U.S. once. We hit the ground hard enough that everyone in the plane collectively grunted at the same time.
QueefInMyKisser@reddit
It’s more of a 737 thing than a Ryanair thing
Anachron101@reddit
Given the way they treat their airframes, personell and customers, its actually very surprising that there isnt a Ryanair sponsored ball of flame on the news every week
Difficult_Camel_1119@reddit
they are known to have a pretty good maintenance because every minute the plane doesn't fly, it doesn't make money.
AlgaeDonut@reddit
I went to college with one of their engineers/technician. Aircraft maintenance is something they take deadly serious, hence their exemplary record.
NMorphey@reddit
737 main LG was specifically designed to sustain harder-than-average landings so the aircraft can be used on shorter runways.
wrestlingnutter@reddit
Any additional info on this. Stronger suspension etc?
Dragonogard549@reddit
Not to mention they have all their aircraft from brand new, if they were all traditional-flag-carrier-style 20 years old then it may well be different.
neinbullshit@reddit
ig their ground crew is good
DieZlurad@reddit
From the other side you could always say that you helped a pilot to land like a person holding the seat in front of him. Usually I am assisting with my legs, pretending to have breaks, like in a car. Have 100% assist success rate so far. "Thank you" from flight attendants while leaving the plane is just for that reason.
Brainchild110@reddit
Nah mate, you just got an ex navy FA18 pilot. He only knows how to land one way. Plane go down until floor.
ResponsibilityKey50@reddit
r/shittyaskflying
LaconicSuffering@reddit
Every time I fly to KLX with Transavia the landings are crunchy.
Aussie_chopperpilot@reddit
Watch the one in DRC today. Uganda air..makes Ryan look like a winner
Reign0ff34r@reddit
I still think they count every touch down (bounce) as a landing and therefore can count those on their tracker.
NICKtheHUTT@reddit
Pretty soft for a Ryanair to be fair
Jimmy_Fromthepieshop@reddit
Flown Ryanair plenty of times, never experienced landings harder than other airlines, so I don't know where this theory comes from.
TheEDMWcesspool@reddit
"sir we missed the arresting wire"
"GO AROUND!"
Mortui75@reddit
Navy pilot.
AdOverall3944@reddit
... navy pilot?😎
tostra187@reddit
This is how I land my plane in GTA 💀
Small_Palpitation121@reddit
They must be training for carrier landings on solid ground.
Throwitaway701@reddit
I refuse to believe this is real, we usually bounce and land again at least twice on Ryanair flights.
TheLastFoodBender@reddit
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Lysol3435@reddit
Navy pilots vs Air Force pilots
Mysterious_Silver_27@reddit
Landing like he ought to have the hook catch the wire
joninco@reddit
Just a navy pilot.
DEI_Chins@reddit
Not an Aviation expert but this sub popped up on my feed was hoping any Ryanair knowledgeable people might know this query.
Recently took a trip to Bergen via Norwegian ASA with Ryanair on the return to Manchester. The trip to Bergen was brutal because of Storm conditions throwing the plane around, the pilots attempted landing 3 times before diverting to Oslo. Although I puked my guts into a bag with the extreme turbulence and another passenger fainted and required medical attention I did feel safe in the pilots control. They were very skilled and kept us safe. Norwegian texted us before we even got to baggage claim with a stay at a Hilton and breakfast included. Flawless services as far as I'm concerned.
No such issues were encountered on the return journey with Ryanair, normal painless flight but I guess that's my query. Could I trust a Ryanair pilot to deliver the same feeling of safety and attention? I have no doubt they're qualified but if they're incentivised to land hard and under a time pressure would the experience have been the same? I have no doubt that the company wouldn't have responded with a hotel ticket as quick as Norwegian Air did but is the Ryanair procedure of landing quick and hard like in this video a problem in bad weather?
nevertricked@reddit
Was that a Navy landing or what?
doomiestdoomeddoomer@reddit
HYPERNOVA3_@reddit
"What is a landing if a controlled fall". Some Ryanair pilot probably
Duct_TapeOrWD40@reddit
Navy pilot? Oh no.... just Ryanair.
DrZaiius@reddit
Damn those planes are sturdy, made to be rayanair-pilot-proof.
Murky-Version8225@reddit
Inevitable-Dark5537@reddit
Smooth landings cost extra
nmk44@reddit
Yawn
ModeratelyGrumpy@reddit
So War Thunder really needs to shut up about my landing gear snapping because I land too hard
blubear1695@reddit
Had one exactly like that yesterday. At one point we were halfway down the runway and I thought the landing was aborted
Small-Policy-3859@reddit
They really like to scare their passengers a bit by landing at the last possible moment. Funny blokes.
dpaanlka@reddit
Is this actually “typical” though?
elemental-mind@reddit
The window blinds are still up - this was buttery smooth.
Mad_kat4@reddit
Ryanair.....making sure their weight on wheels switches don't have to wait.
bimbochungo@reddit
as we say in Spanish: "Toma dura, toma segura"
Tema4@reddit
Когда пилот привык садиться на авианосец.
PlatypusBackground53@reddit
At least it’s a landing.
stevewithcats@reddit
Flaps, gear, gumshield ,,,,,,,,,,, bang
Icy-Farm9432@reddit
Baloo from Talespin was on the rudder.
BCNb@reddit
Confirmed, always the same.