AMD v Intel
Posted by DCCXVIII@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 25 comments
Yep. It's this question again. Only this time it's my turn.
Last time I built a PC was back in 2017 I think. Whenever the GTX1080Ti was king. Anywho, it's time to upgrade. Only now I'm hearing that Intel is trash and AMD is where it's at these days. They say AMD is now king for gaming. But here's the thing. I have a GPU. Last time I checked, it's your GPU that is primarily responsible for gaming performance. Not the CPU. Obviously this varies game to game but it's predominantly true. So considering this fact, does it really matter that AMD CPUs are better at gaming performance?
I mean, maybe if you're 100% reliant on integrated graphics. But with a discreet GPU, does it even matter?
Plastic-Leading-5800@reddit
AMD is a better company
Verdreht@reddit
This sentiment comes from a time where monitors where 60hz, you turned V-sync on and so long as you never dropped below 60 you were happy. Nowadays we have higher refreshrates and frame syncing. People want higher framerates and the CPU is more of an equal partner nowadays.
WatermelonRick@reddit
TBH is still lock my games to 60fps on my 180hz monitor because I simply can't see a difference.
Significant_Writer_9@reddit
So most games use one single core for gaming, sometimes more but generally speaking.
You need to find a CPU that is most efficient with a single core.
Intel have had to design hybrid CPU because their idle power consumption was trash before. AMD have amazed me, I have been using Intel all my life until I built my PC in 2021, I will never buy Intel ever again.
AMD runs more efficient, less power consumption, more cooler, and also more powerful.
Stick loyal to Intel if you want, makes no difference to me - but you will be making a mistake.
BoiCDumpsterFire@reddit
I’d say it’s pretty rare for new games to only use a single core. Modern games are getting pretty good about distributing the compute load. There’s even debate about whether or not 6 core CPUs are enough nowadays.
Significant_Writer_9@reddit
Yes sometimes there is a CPU bottleneck in certain games but it is so rare.
Back on topic, Intel 6 core may bottleneck way before my 5600x 6 core does.
Flaky_Sentence_7252@reddit
This video should give you the answers you're looking for.
https://youtu.be/2mE4YEm2L-g
BoiCDumpsterFire@reddit
I just built an Intel system and I’m going to say go with AMD. Motherboards are more expensive and you get less options, the ecore/pcore arrangement confuses a lot of software, you’ll have almost no upgrade path, and they’re more prone to chip degradation. The only reason I went with Intel was because I got a 13700kf for $150.
Anywhere311@reddit
What’s your spending limit ? A 5079ti , 7700x could be a good start . Or a 3060ti & 5600x .
Itsme-RdM@reddit
Where does "Nvidia has more compatibility" comes from?
Metallicat95@reddit
Nvidia supports more games, more features. AMD is good, and for many games it doesn't matter, but NVIDIA remains ahead on its ray tracing and AI performance.
Itsme-RdM@reddit
You probably on a Windows device? Try Linux and let us know the Nvidia experience compared to AMD
HarrisonGreen@reddit
AMD is better, but R7 9800X3D is right now too expensive for how little extra real world performance it offers, especially in 1440p and 4k.
Most people would go about just fine with the R5 9600X, or if you play more CPU-bound games and do productivity workloads on the side, R7 9700X.
For budget builds, Intel wins though. The i5 14400F is the CPU price-to-performance king right now. Faster than the R5 7500F while being able to use both DDR4 and DDR5, saving you a lot of money in RAM. The non-F version is also reasonably priced and nice to have for streaming and video editing.
TDEcret@reddit
CPU matters, and quite a bit. An old/slow CPU will also slow your GPU so it wont be able to give all of its performance
My own case was using a 4060ti with an old 4790K. Barely getting 40-60 fps in most games. upgraded to a 13600k and that same 4060ti now ran all the same games that ran at 40 fps now ran at 80-100, and the ones that ran at 60 reached well over 150.
So CPU matters, that said the entry level CPUs (Ryzen 7600X or 9600X) are more than powerful enough to work with any GPU and let them run at full power, so while the X3D cpus are the best they are not a requirement to run games well.
9okm@reddit
Gotta be rage bait.
jaba_jayru@reddit
Get an AMD 3d chache CPU but please don't take any x870 ASRock Motherboards. Just check out the sub and look and YouTube. ASRock is dying your cpu
MagicPistol@reddit
Why don't you just pair a Pentium 4 with a 5090 then.
You really sound like you don't know anything about PC parts.
prawnsandthelike@reddit
AMD CPUs dominate due to efficiency and relative price to performance.
You will get screwed over by RAM costs no matter which you choose.
Good luck.
Citadelen@reddit
Very few people tend to go with Intel these days unless they get a great deal, AMD is better in most regards
PCFliper429@reddit
unless you are on the tightest budget, tighter than my jeans that are 2 sizes too small, go with a gpu.
hitchhiker87@reddit
AMD 9950X3D for gaming, Intel Core Ultra 9 285K for productivity.
kmkm2op@reddit
I mean the cpu determines your upperbound framerate if you chose to lower settings, so it matters alot more for less graphically demanding games. Obviously cpu performance matters alot less at higher resolutions and settings, although with how good upscaling is nowadays, the need for stronger CPUs even at higher resolutions is becoming real. Plus you generally want to be able to have gpu utilisation maxed out as it is the more expensive component and you want to maximise it's output. A strong advantage of amd, you may not have considered is platform longevity. With zen 7 rumoured to come to am5 (likely given track record), you will be able to upgrade to a new cpu pretty seamlessly 5 years down the line.
Jirekianu@reddit
It does quite a bit. If you look at benchmarks around at things like hardware unboxed or gamersnexus. They compare the exact same GPUs with different CPUs. And there's big swings in performance.
While the GPU is the primary muscle. Your CPU is the brain that sends signals to it. Bottlenecking is overused as a term, but it absolutely applies to scenario where people have really strong GPUs but middle or low end CPUs in their system. Without an adequate CPU the GPU is sitting there waiting for instructions and not running at full tilt.
Even in games that are very much not CPU bound you're talking swings of 20-40% depending on which exact CPU you mean. What resolution the game is running at, etc. In games where the CPU is more important like sim and strategy games where it has to do simulations for turns with AI opponents etc? It's a bigger difference.
hard2resist@reddit
CPU matters significantly for gaming
it handles physics, AI, and frame delivery. AMD's 3D V-Cache excels at maximizing GPU potential by eliminating bottlenecks.
WatermelonRick@reddit
CPU is also important. And AMD with 3d cache is definitely winning.