Convair Model 48 "Charger"
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The Convair Model 48 Charger was a prototype light attack and observation aircraft of the 1960s, developed to meet a requirement for a dedicated counter-insurgency (COIN) aircraft. It was a two-seat, twin-boom aircraft powered by two turboprop engines which lost out to the North American Rockwell OV-10 Bronco of similar layout. Only the single prototype Model 48 was built, and this turned out to be the last complete aircraft constructed by Convair
Without a doubt, a very peculiar and striking aircraft that in the end could not surpass the OV-10 Bronco
Ben_Dover70@reddit
Wings? We don't need no stinkin wings where we're going!
UrethralExplorer@reddit
Could probably take off and land on forested roads and trails. Idk about it's endurance but it looks like a sick little plane.
old_flying_fart@reddit
Probably? That wes the design. Somewhere there's a video (can't find it now) of a high speed taxi test on the most ridiculous "runway" you've ever seen, The 48's gear just sucked up all the bumps. A Ford F150 would have lost control at that speed. It's pretty amazing.
TrenchcoatVendor@reddit
This is the OV-10, but still fun to watch.
old_flying_fart@reddit
That might be the video I'm thinking of, but I'm pretty sure the 48 went though the same tests. That was a Navy test, not a North American test.
Note the short wings of the early model OV-10.
magnificentfoxes@reddit
Guess you could say they were penny pinching coins.
smithers3882@reddit
The original USMC vision was for an even lighter and simpler aircraft than what the OV-10 - the Charger competitor (and ultimate victor) became, with an 8’ landing gear track and a 20’ wingspan to operate from most roadways.
mexchiwa@reddit
Tails might be taller than outer wings are long
old_flying_fart@reddit
Man, I'd kill to have one of those. STOL out the wazoo and carries a load an a half. You can seat 4 inside the fuselage!
whywouldthisnotbea@reddit
Can anyone explain how that tiny wing with the weight of two engines and retractable gear can clear a 50 foot obstacle in 500 feet?
old_flying_fart@reddit
Max flap angle was NINETY degrees.
Put the wash from two turboprops over that wing, and it's nearly as good as a VTOL fan.
Lose one engine in that configuration and you die.
Pilgrim_of_Reddit@reddit
As u/Cthell wrote, “propwash “.
I started big googling “Model 48 NACA profile” and got the following…
“The Convair Model 48 Charger was a prototype light attack aircraft that did not use a standard NACA airfoil profile.
Instead, its short wings were designed with a unique system of full span trailing edge slotted flaps and leading-edge slats inboard of the engines to maximise lift and manoeuvrability from the propeller wash, effectively creating a form of vectored thrust.
The Charger's stubby wings were designed to operate within the slipstream of its two turboprop engines, which significantly increased the effectiveness of the flaps and slats.
Wingspan was 30’ 10.30” (9.397 m). The tailplane has a 20’ (6.096m) span.
Stall speed (which obviously varies with loading, t’s & p’s, is about 40 knots. Personally, that does surprise me.
Cthell@reddit
By having the wings almost entirely submerged in the prop wash.
Lose one engine and you're going to have a bad day
Mythrilfan@reddit
Oomph.
Diogenes256@reddit
You could fit it in a decent backyard too.
jacksmachiningreveng@reddit
Footage of the prototype
t53ix35@reddit
The OV-10.
blackpearl1477@reddit
The only Plane that kept coming back from the dead several times after retirement I heard. Very impressive and seemingly still useful and simple.
mdang104@reddit
It had a 90 degree flap setting and Krueger flaps allowing for very slow flight and STOL relying on a blown wing and prop wash. That also meant that an engine failure at those speed lead to a near instant VMC roll unless you cut power from the good engine immediately.
Live-Syrup-6456@reddit
Something I found at the neighborhood swap meet.
Live-Syrup-6456@reddit
Reverse side.
MightyOGS@reddit
Once again, the TPE331 wins the day
Extension-Two-4546@reddit
Even stranger was Martin Aircraft’s proposal. It had an inverted “V” horizontal stabilizer between the booms and: “blown” controls over the aforementioned stabilizer and ailerons and wings using engine exhaust gases. I became aware of said aircraft after a seller on eBay (of a non-aviation item) that I bought from was selling an/ the original Martin Aircraft promotional poster that I now own. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lockheedmartin/35452087666/
HFentonMudd@reddit
Man they were really reaching with that COIN title
72corvids@reddit
Holy shit! I ain't ever seen that one before now!!
korale75@reddit
It's more of a tandem wing airplane.
dirty_hooker@reddit
Ooh! I love this level of weirdness.
Successful-Cat-7120@reddit
Bronco sport
MrDeviloh@reddit
Baby bronco
General-Cover-4981@reddit
Looks like the Bronco and a P-38 had a baby
ghostpanther218@reddit
We have P-38 Lighting at home:
GhostPepperDaddy@reddit
But no original comments
ConstantCampaign2984@reddit
Is this an actual payload for this particular plane?
Brialmont@reddit
Beats me, but I don't see how it could be. Just not enough room to hang all that stuff.
ConstantCampaign2984@reddit
At first I thought it was some AI shit but there are multiple different images from the same day.
Brialmont@reddit
I think it was common for manufacturers to show a combat aircraft will all the different stuff it could carry.
ConstantCampaign2984@reddit
That makes sense.
ConstantCampaign2984@reddit
There’s also a drawing of one fitted with pontoons. Wonder if that was actually a thing?
ConstantCampaign2984@reddit
Also model 49 is wild AF.
RestaurantFamous2399@reddit
So its a Bronco before they had Broncos.
old_flying_fart@reddit
The Bronco won, the 48 lost. There was (as usual) some politics involved.
ShitpostSheriff@reddit
F-104 of ground attack aircraft
Harpies_Bro@reddit
Okay, who zapped the Lightning with a shrink ray?
Fr0gFish@reddit
They forgot to install the outer parts of the wings
LefsaMadMuppet@reddit
The original OV-10 prototype had short wings as well. They basically wanted to land on narrow roads with trees on either side.
Throwaway1303033042@reddit
The_Canadian@reddit
This is hilarious!
ConstantCampaign2984@reddit
That’s just cool.
mash3d@reddit
Is that supposed to be an elevator on top of the tail? Looks a Porsche 911 had sex with a penguin.
Wraeth7@reddit
Looks like the dodo from old GTA games.
Luster-Purge@reddit
"What if we took the P-38 and gave it a giant car spoiler?"
sentinelthesalty@reddit
Its a baby bronco!
122922@reddit
The first picture looks like he’s at the Coast Guard Station in San Diego.
Apexnanoman@reddit
Wow....5 paratroopers were meant to go in the rear compartment. Better have been real friendly