The Canadian Government is causing mass job and business loss…
Posted by whywe_hunt@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 34 comments
Seriously sad… Canada’s gun “buyback” program and insane prohibitions are such a mess. They even banned my turkey hunting shotgun!
AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit
This is a lesson in what happens when you elect anti-2A candidates. This is the "gun control" Democrats want for the US. Make no mistake, if the Democrats could get away with it, they absolutely would. Banning guns is a core policy for their party.
Temporary Gun Owner Flowchart of Confiscation:
Used_Cry_1137@reddit
You’re absolutely right.
The problem is that the Republicans run the worst candidates possible.
If the Republicans would run people who my grandfather didn’t bomb in WWII, I’d be able to vote for them.
I’m pro-gun. But I’m anti Nazi. And won’t vote for them or for people who won’t support science, who want to control what my daughters do with their bodies, and so on.
I’m being sincere. I dislike the democratic leadership, just like most of my fellow Democrats seem to. (See what New York just did, electing a decent human being instead of who the DNC trotted out and endorsed.)
It’s sad really. I don’t plan on giving up my guns, and every year the laws get worse in my state. But I’ll be god DAMNED if I vote for some POS who wants his personal God to rule me or mine, or 99% of the rest of the anti American shit I see the current regime pulling.
Seriously, we got questionable at best “LE” in masks brutally saving us from… people attending their citizenship court hearings, taking their kids to school, or their dogs to a dog park. What fucking heroes.
I don’t know how anyone can be proud to be an American right now and that really sucks. At this point I’m grateful that I’m a DoD veteran who predates this return to being the DoW.
It’s really telling each time someone on reddit asks where all the “2a people” are when all this terrible government sponsored racism, abuse, and oppression is going on, only for someone to point out that most “2a people” are for the racism, abuse, and oppression.
Let that sink in if it hasn’t. Even if you personally don’t feel that way, “this how they know you”. This is what you’re standing up to be counted with.
tl;dr: Run candidates that comic book superheroes like Captain America wouldn’t fight against, and I’ll be happy to vote for them to regain and retain our gun rights. Down with the AWB, and down with the NFA.
AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit
Yeah, I don't interact with people like you. I have too much respect for the work my trees do producing oxygen.
ThePiggySlasher@reddit
Nothing like being pro pedophilia to own the Libs lol. I'm sure your $500 PSA and airsoft optic are safe from Libturds 😂
seattleseahawks2014@reddit
The reason why DeSantis won was because the candidate he ran against protected one.
Illustrious_Crab1060@reddit
the Democrats literally had someone with an SS tattoo run for office
seattleseahawks2014@reddit
And look at some of the other individuals who won yesterday. Sure Trump is bad, but there's a reason why we're here now.
seattleseahawks2014@reddit
And democratic politicians have been running these candidates lately too.
shadowa1ien@reddit
I hate how accurate this is. Like obviously we have some cultural differences regarding firearms, but a good chunk of canadian firearm owners have realized that the liberal government just doesn't plan to stop. They absolutely will take "grandpa joes hunting rifle" because some woman from quebec said it shoots too fast (think about the #1 bolt action rifle sold and used in canada.... the SMLE, known for its capability of the "mad minuet") . they have already banned 10 gauge shotguns entirely, and they banned the weatherby Mk V, as well as multiple. 22 models that simply LOOKED like other guns (gsg 16, that looked like am Mp7, and another GsG that looked like a german MP40, both semi-auto). The only reason the SkS specifically has survived the bans is due to its immense popularity throughout canada, especially indigenous hunters, the government is worried about the backlash from indigenous folk.
Basically what im trying to say here in my mini maple flavored rant is... dont believe jack shit from the government when it comes to "we're not taking all of your guns". We have seen it here in canada, they kept moving the goalposts on what they consider "assault style"
AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit
You can't compromise with anti-2A people.
Today's compromise is tomorrow's loophole. Look at how the new AWBs they propose want to close the "Thordsen Loophole"
The law said "Features X, Y, Z are banned". So a company made parts which do not have features X, Y, and Z in order to comply with the law.
Now it's a "loophole" in their minds. That's not a fucking loophole, that's called "compliance".
But this is the proof. It's not about banning only certain kinds of guns. It's not about "dangerous features". It's about banning guns. The end goal is a UK style near-complete ban.
shadowa1ien@reddit
TL:DR: the government will ban your guns just because they want to, just as AlphaTangoFoxtrot said. below is just a specific example on the "loophole" he mentioned, if yall care to read it that is, i know its quite long 😅.
as far as i know, our government (canada) doesn't even have a definition for "assault style" nor do they have a definition for "varient". Which just leaves the law open to interpretation (i would say slippery slope, but its more of a dead drop)
And the best part? Theres a company here in canada, a firearms manufacturer.. they made a rifle, that had the modern tacti-cool ness, chambered in .223rem, called the "crypto". This firearm was specifically designed to comply with post 2020 laws.
Vere recently, the RCMP updated the firearms reference table to reflect that this particular gun is "prohibited" despite it having been put on the FRT as "non-restricted". Now, they are telling us that the crypto (gun in question) has "always been prohibited, and those who bought it should know that"
Before 2024, there was a requirement of the registrar of firearms that said they had to maintain a record of each classification they made on the FRT. So for example, if kel-tec wanted to make a gun for canada, the gun would be put through the registrar, and be classified as non restricted, restricted, or prohibited, and they would keep on file that they classified it as such. Buuuuut, in 2024, with an order in council (essentially an executive order) they removed that requirement of the registrar..... why is that important, you ask? Well that requirement of records kept, is what protected gun owners from the EXACT situation we just faced with the crusader crypto.
Crptyo was made NR, and that was kept on file. 2024 law change allowed them to erase that record and reclassify the crypto, and now they are gaslighting canadians by saying "they've always been prohibited" . As it stands, they can do that to any firearm that currently exists on the FRT. And its not even the government, its the fucking RCMP with the power to change the FRT, so its not LAW but is treated as such in court.
If you ever want a really good voice to explain the whole firearms situation here in canada, i highly recommend you check out youtubers "runkle of the bailey" and "soapboxguns". One is a criminal firearms defense lawyer and the other just has a knack for digging up all the information and laying it out. Both are very critical of what out government is doing, and Ian (the guy from runkle of the bailey)explains very well why the new laws surrounding firearms are a dangerous precedent. He also does cover other stuff, not only firearms, such as canadian home defense and pockey knife laws.
TaskForceD00mer@reddit
Nobody needs a pointy knife
Nobody needs a metal knife
Nobody needs a knife at all, everything is pro-cut at the store
Nobody needs a spatula, just eat ze bug paste
2cool4skool369@reddit
We Americans are also suffering mass job and business loss due to our governments actions.
akbuilderthrowaway@reddit
For as much as people bitch and moan about choices getting nothing done (feature, not a bug), I would legitimately vote in a heartbeat for a presidential candidate that promises to literally do nothing.
I have zero idea why it seems politicians need to justify their fucking existence by making shit decisions. Literally. Just. Do. Nothing.
imneuromancer@reddit
Oh, you mean the "Oligarchy is great!" Party. Yeah, it's a pretty popular one nowadays.
1leggeddog@reddit
A status quo government, yeap.
DrtySpin@reddit
Yes, because of all the tarriffs being handed out by your government. What I dont understand is why we are doing the same thing. Why are we putting "counter tarrifs" in? It's a tax on ourselves, that ultimately HAS to be an extra burden paid by end consumers. It's the proverbial fighting fire with fire. Only difference is, sometimes that actually makes sense, this just doesn't ever. Let them burn their own house down, we dont have to burn ours too!
UnfairAd7220@reddit
You aren’t being bitch slapped because it’s fun for us.
Carney proudly proclaims that 85% of US goods are tariff free.
It’s that last 15% of protective tariffs slapped on US goods.
Zero them out and we’re good.
The tariffs we put on Canadian goods are countervailing.
akbuilderthrowaway@reddit
Because politicians are fucking dumb, that's why. Tariffs might make sense if you aren't a consumer economy. But we're literally the biggest consumer economy on the planet, so I'm not sure what the fuck the point is.
singlemale4cats@reddit
Unfortunately, policies like this have inertia. Eventually Canadians might elect a government that isn't so rapidly anti-gun, but that administration is going to have little to no energy towards reversing the actions of their predecessors. I think of it like import bans in the US. Once they're up and running, they last in perpetuity, no matter how allegedly pro gun the new government is.
Canada needs a right to bear arms enshrined in law. I don't think anything else is going to stop this.
UnfairAd7220@reddit
The Canadian Charter of Rights isn’t.
seattleseahawks2014@reddit
That sucks.
SethmonGold@reddit
Thats what ya'll voted for though...
whywe_hunt@reddit (OP)
A lot of us did not vote for this…
EivorKS@reddit
and a lot of us didnt vote for the dumpster fire that is the current us nonsense. thats the fun of votes though, everyone gets one even if they cant read
StevenMcStevensen@reddit
That’s what Montreal and Toronto vote for, pretty much everybody else recognizes that these regulations are worthless bullshit and despise them.
However, the way federal politics work in this country, Quebec and Ontario (chiefly just a couple urban areas in each province even) effectively hold all the political power, and everybody else gets dragged along with whatever insane, dogshit policy they want. There’s a reason so many people in Alberta and Saskatchewan are wanting out of confederation.
FoggyDog78@reddit
That shop clearly went out of business because the owner couldn’t spell.
FoggyDog78@reddit
The irony of using AI to make a thumbnail for a video about job loss is chef’s kiss
whywe_hunt@reddit (OP)
Hey hey 😂 it was the easiest way to throw a video together while we fight this government
FoggyDog78@reddit
Can’t argue with easy. All in jest;)
Sodak01@reddit
Every citizen everywhere should resist being disarmed. It’s so obviously not in our best interest.
No-Produce7606@reddit
It's rarely a choice you can make without getting imprisoned or killed.
Sodak01@reddit
Oh I’m sorry I don’t own any guns. I sold them to some dude a while back.
No-Produce7606@reddit
Ah, I understand. Mine were lost in a tragic boating incident.
Jokes aside, using one after a country-wide ban is just going to put you in prison anyway.