Exclusive: China bans foreign AI chips from state-funded data centres
Posted by DazzlingpAd134@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 27 comments
Posted by DazzlingpAd134@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 27 comments
Verite_Rendition@reddit
Hmm. I suspect this means that NVIDIA and AMD's hopes of selling their remaining H20s and MI308s have been dashed. And presumably for the final time.
ttkciar@reddit
Do you think AMD might try selling existing stocks of MI308 domestically? Customers are hungry for anything, and production isn't keeping up.
OnlineParacosm@reddit
You’ve articulated why they don’t need to sell domestically: they have the exact market conditions they want through scarcity.
Primary_Olive_5444@reddit
How would this cause piece of news cause Nvidia GPU price to fluctuate?
Will China scalpers travel overseas now to snatch whatever GPUs are available like the RTX Pro 6000 and RTX 5090?
txdv@reddit
whatever the news - prices increase
MetaVerseMetaVerse@reddit
Cheaper gaming GPUs. All for it
ttkciar@reddit
These datacenter GPUs are useless for gaming, lacking any kind of video interface.
MetaVerseMetaVerse@reddit
Yes, because they all don't use the same silicon.... try again
ttkciar@reddit
So, if you agree that these datacenter GPUs aren't useful for gaming, why are you claiming this datacenter GPU export ban will result in cheaper gaming GPUs?
Explain the cause and effect, here.
MetaVerseMetaVerse@reddit
English isn't your first language apparently..
They both use the same finite silicon/manufacturing line. Not to mention the same core RTL design, just used differently depending on the end-product SKU.
Maybe look up how these GPUs are made.
You got so far up artificial intelligence you seem to lack the natural kind.
ttkciar@reddit
That's not how any of this works.
MetaVerseMetaVerse@reddit
Youre a fkn 🤡
Go get a degree
🤣🤣
EmergencyCucumber905@reddit
Why does it mean that?
Dark_ShadowMD@reddit
He means that, since nVidia and AMD won't sell their chips anymore, they'll have to lower prices if they want to get rid of them. Sadly, knowing the greed of western companies, it won't be a thing, they will find a way to artificially raise prices instead.
GeorgeRRZimmerman@reddit
Yep. If you're not making the revenue you hoped for, instead of trying to sell at a lower price than you wanted, you simply put the thing in the closet and wait for people to beg you for it at a more favorable price.
Surely you won't be holding the bag forever, right?
thelastsupper316@reddit
Hahahahahahaha not happening
Carsmaniac@reddit
You wanna ban selling your chips to us? Stuff it, we're gonna ban selling your chips to us. How you like them apples?
Zhiong_Xena@reddit
More than that.
The apples you refused them have now been outgrown. They have begun the cultivation of far sweeter and more productive mangoes at a fraction of the cost. They will never want for apples again.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
This is a pretty significant announcement. Many datacenters in China have their electricity subsidized. I imagine power subsidizes are included under this requirement.
User-NetOfInter@reddit
Isn’t 99% of power in China subsidized?
jwang274@reddit
No only national owned or public institutions
soggybiscuit93@reddit
What?
non-public datacenters are receiving electricity subsidies. And these new requirements about requiring any state funds apply to any, public or private, that receive state funds.
ByteDance, Alibaba and Tencent all receive electricity subsidies.
MetaVerseMetaVerse@reddit
It means theyre all covered by this mandate.
aprx4@reddit
Perhaps the guidance refers to direct funding or investment.
Budget_Builds@reddit
Funny how China how has no issues using western tech untill they clone it or develop their industry to match it.
antifocus@reddit
And of course, the unfunny version is to impose sky high tariffs on industries before the supply chain and the necessary skilled labor are developed.
Positive-Road3903@reddit
“You want to sell the Chinese enough that their developers get addicted to the American technology stack,” -Howard Lutnick's (US Secretary of Commerce)
The issue here is that the Americans will use anything within their means to get what they want. Thats why Europe is on the ropes, because they cant wean off US dominated software ecosystem