Civilian SERE in Ukraine
Posted by NearbySuggestion978@reddit | preppers | View on Reddit | 10 comments
Hello everyone,
i am fron Germany and our office for disaster relief and civil protection made a new brochure for the civilian to prepare for catastrophic events. I heard from someone that ukraines brochures change over the war and is now including how to resist russian torture of civilians and how to prevent war crimes like Butcha. Is it true? Can someone please comment a link to this brochure and a translation with it, because i dont speak any slavic language.
Thanks in advance and everything good on earth for you guys.
JRHLowdown3@reddit
Was the assumption of the brochure that Putin who has been bogged down in Ukraine was suddenly going to sweep through eastern Europe Stalin style? Or was it regarding nuclear attack?
Homely_Bonfire@reddit
There are a bunch of german politicians claiming that the russian wrote "to Berlin" (in russian ofc) on the tanks and stuff. It's great business if you are invested in military stocks and can legislate/propagate those stocks up.
I think what people miss again and again - occupation requires a considerable amount of troops to hold the conquered territories. And Russia would need to instantly double its total population with able bodied, war ready men to control anything significant beyond the eastern part of Ukraine.
The current brochure in Germany doesn't explicitely mention war as the sole reason for prepping, its held fairly general, blackout, cyberattack, natural catastrophe, war etc.
Holiday_Albatross441@reddit
There's nothing in the EU that Russia needs, and any war between Russia and NATO would quickly go nuclear. Putin is well aware of that, which is why he's trying so hard to avoid one.
Homely_Bonfire@reddit
I agree that, but thats not what most people here believe. Almost like main character syndrom tbh... "We are so great and these barbarians are after us, because how couldnt they!!!"
dittybopper_05H@reddit
The other thing to remember is that the Russian Army still suffers under the curse of dedovshchina, and that kind of indiscipline makes for poor occupation troops. And without a professional NCO corps, that's another major strike against them.
Essentially, the only people who will care enough will be the junior officers (lieutenants and captains and maybe up to major), and they only to the extent that it will allow them to advance.
Also, corruption runs deep. It's been there ever since the days of the Tsar and it isn't going away because there is no systemic pressure to make it go away. Undisciplined troops with corrupt leadership do not make an effective occupation force.
Besides which, they've been bogged down in Ukraine now for 3 years, but actually now for 11 years if you count the annexation of Crimea and the Donbas war. They haven't exactly covered themselves in military glory or success, they're in a war of attrition with a country that everyone expected them to conquer in just a few days, or at most weeks.
I'm not particularly worried that the Sovie... erm, *RUSSIANS* are going to cross into any other countries. They're up against a solid wall of NATO countries to the West. Just not going to happen. They may be dumb, but they're not stupid.
NearbySuggestion978@reddit (OP)
https://dovidka.info/en/
Look yourself
VagabondAlbertan@reddit
I'd be more worried about the Chinese or millions of immigrants already in your country lol but, hey if the propaganda says Russia
Garand Thumb on youtube has a bunch of great videos about SERE and things related to that.
Republic81@reddit
Agreed, upvote from me.
GrumpyOldGuy2000@reddit
does it also talk about Ukrainian torture of Russians?
CadetThrowAwaway@reddit
At this stage in the war, there are no rapid advances like in Butcha. The line is moving a matter of meters per month, not a blitz that is going to catch the civilians off-guard. Especially not all the way in Germany. Maybe the Baltics or Poland, but the main threat in Germany would be sabotage, disinformation, and attacks with probable deniability.