New Aviation Trend
Posted by Fresh_man82@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 1112 comments
The new trend aviation products for private use. Looks very interesting
Posted by Fresh_man82@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 1112 comments
The new trend aviation products for private use. Looks very interesting
Brilliant-Goal-4405@reddit
Make them race, allow people to gamble on them, and I can assure you the technology will leap into the future lol
saxonturner@reddit
Adding weapons or military applications will make the technology leap even faster.
Specific_Neat_5074@reddit
There are helicopters already
Heavy_Ape@reddit
Yes, BUT we don't have smaller more vulnerable with kess range flying machines.
jcinto23@reddit
We do, they are just generally drones.
theSchrodingerHat@reddit
We also don’t have a purpose built pedestrian Slap-Chop, so this will kill a lot of birds with one stone.
altitude-adjusted@reddit
Birds, people, animals.
Four spinny whirly things on the ground at femoral artery height? What could go wrong?
roadbikemadman@reddit
...that suck-all for autorotation.
nordic-nomad@reddit
Yeah, I was going to say you could shoot one of these down with a good sized rock.
JMoc1@reddit
We have the MD500
turmacar@reddit
Finally. The Bradley of helicopters.
sbd104@reddit
The Bradley is plenty survivable and deadly as shown by the Gulf War and Ukraine. Pentagon Wars is a fabricated story.
CPT-DED-PUUL@reddit
Yea but these same low cost AF and if they lose one the most valuable thing that would’ve lost is the human
john_wayne_pil-grim@reddit
That is also the most valuable thing lost in any other fatal class A.
CPT-DED-PUUL@reddit
I agree but sometimes the way higher ups act, you would think the human factor is the least of their concerns. I’ve heard “people are easily replaced machines and equipment are not.”
john_wayne_pil-grim@reddit
That is unfortunate to hear. On the aircrew side of things, leadership has always emphasized safety throughout my career.
CPT-DED-PUUL@reddit
Yea I can see that. Aircrew literally different from ground life lol
john_wayne_pil-grim@reddit
Which, on the one hand, I totally get. Different requirements. But on the other hand, same team.
linx0003@reddit
And anything/one on the ground that it may crash into. We have a lot of idiots driving things on roads, imagine the carnage coming from the skies.
LaZboy9876@reddit
"We are working hard on autonomous vehicles to eliminate the significant danger of human error on our roads."
"Great, what else are you working on?"
"We envision a future where everyone owns and operates aircraft."
fluteofski-@reddit
Call it an “A.I.rcraft”… print money.
Specific_Neat_5074@reddit
Why stop there, make it work on a tiered plan, the pro model lets you go up to a meter high and pro max lets you go up to 5 meters. Also, if you lose connection to the server mid flight RIP.
fluteofski-@reddit
Maybe we can do a pro-max-max. It can seat 200 people, got to 30k ft, the users wont own it but pay a per-use fee to use it and we can take them from transit hub to transit hub. Kinda like a bus for the sky.
Specific_Neat_5074@reddit
We have a special area in the city where these buses of the sky land only our users can access these special sky bus stops
Soft_Walrus_3605@reddit
I still think it'll happen at some point. There'll be some kind of balance struck between safety and convenience.
CPT-DED-PUUL@reddit
That is very valid
LetsGoHawks@reddit
The military will find a way to make them expensive.
Draber-Bien@reddit
That's already true with helicopters, takes a ton of money to train and develop good pilots
Cetun@reddit
While normally I would agree with people who say this, especially when people try to launder these things as the new "flying car", I would say that these things might actually have a niche application as they look cheaper, lighter, smaller, and importantly quieter than helicopters and thus would probably be the Willys MB version of a helicopter. It could transport things to difficult places that might be inappropriate for a full helicopter and looks like they can be maintained rather easier than something with a T700 or T703 turbine.
It seems like you would easily be able to put a couple of these in a logistic company in a mountain division and them be quite successful.
Cheoah@reddit
Said something like this at the advent of jet technology. We already have flying things!
NotCook59@reddit
And that was proven to be correct!
Cheoah@reddit
Not wrong. But not Wright
BigMickPlympton@reddit
I don't know...the security implications are Orville-ian.
Cheoah@reddit
BigMick showin up!
I like it
Specific_Neat_5074@reddit
Can't argue with that
Brilliant-Goal-4405@reddit
Hey hey hey, slow down cowboy
Redituser01735@reddit
Too late, he now has a multi-billion dollar contact
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
Company is already valued at 2.3 trillion dollars and the stock is a meme.
Thandiol@reddit
Just lost it all, was spotted with his mistress at a Coldplay gig.
Hazzard_Hillbilly@reddit
Good news, he was shot dead and his wife inherited everything and is now banging the chairman of the federal trade commission.
Redfish680@reddit
Going airtight with the FAA Administrator
ohpickanametheysaid@reddit
My company was able to modify them for oil exploration and extraction. My company is going public and my IPO is next week. Initial valuation is 1.1 Brazilian USD
battleroyalewcheeze@reddit
I prefer my USD to be Argentinian
pundawg1@reddit
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LinksGems@reddit
How’d you fuckin’ do that?
morelsupporter@reddit
he, like you and i, are connected to the internet
LinksGems@reddit
I take it you didn’t see the movie?
NavierIsStoked@reddit
All non dividend stocks are meme stocks. You can’t tell me there is any difference. The only time the stock price comes into play is buying out voting rights.
ShitOnAStickXtreme@reddit
What is the company name?
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
Don’t know, but it starts with i and ends with Ai.
Which-Barnacle-2740@reddit
just add AI to it and its 5 trillion
mimaikin-san@reddit
which is less than half of the valuation of Nvidia (NVDA: NASDAQ) at $4.95 T
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
And wallstreetbets says that it could be worth more than Nvidia.
RatInaMaze@reddit
Saxon Turner: A weapons company
Cheoah@reddit
Săxon-Tủrner: evolving technology at the intersection of security and transportation
Haldron-44@reddit
Săxon-Tưrner: 🎶 we're in everything🎶
Cheoah@reddit
Dang việt keyboard was stuck on lol
bcegkmqswz@reddit
No I think you’re on to something with the stylization there
arrynyo@reddit
A .50 cal to the motor would put them down quickly
CyberSoldat21@reddit
Lockheed Martin liked this comment
IrishGoodbye4@reddit
To be fair, the helmets now cost $900,000
besimbur@reddit
LOL does anybody remember those Seabreacher watercraft that looked like driving around in a Shamu? Those things would breach 12 feet out of the water and dive under at 50+ mph. The whole time I'm watching someone ride around breaching in and out of the water, I'm just thinking this is screaming for someone to nail a bridge pier. When they do, there will be a body to pull out because between the limited cockpit visibility, being strapped into a 5-point harness, and flying blind during breaches, an unconscious operator after hitting a pier at 50 mph isn't making it out of that $80,000+ death trap.
That's exactly what I immediately feel when I see people riding around in a quadcopter. You are literally introducing a system with four times the number of failure parts as a regular helicopter.
HAETMACHENE@reddit
Don't you mean two times?
Helicopter need a large blades on top for lift and the smaller one in the back for stability.
Also, sure you need more rotors to get these going, but you could also make the argument that these require a smaller profile for one man to fly solo, yeah?
rawwwse@reddit
#FTFY
NoIdeaHalp@reddit
Tell me you’re an American without telling me you’re an American. 😆
abdallha-smith@reddit
You just know it will come to this
ActivePeace33@reddit
The military applications forgo the need, or the desirability, of having a human aboard.
acek831@reddit
Allow people to gamble on war. Thats like the vince mcmahon red eyed meme right there lol
canuckcrazed006@reddit
Oh my sweet summer child. How do you think they got funding for this ? I can almost guarantee you they already have a prototype with guns, rockets, and bombs. away from public eyes of course.
HGruberMacGruberFace@reddit
Make it porn-related, the technology leap will be exponential
Yureinobbie@reddit
Refueling vid for barely-prototyped aircraft, spilled all over the fuselage
Sqweaky_Clean@reddit
Came here for this, challenge accepted
Appropriate_Ad4615@reddit
A bit premature
Financial-Chicken843@reddit
I can see this being useful in ukraine.
Both sides alrdy use e scooters.
These seem way quicker and can fly just above the ground avoiding mines
Not_Eriond@reddit
Figure out a way to use it in porn, and you will own the world.
telperos@reddit
These things exist because of the ones that were already developed for military purposes
DruPeacock23@reddit
I just want my food delivered on time, piping hot.
iDabGlobzilla@reddit
Military tech is increasingly trending toward unmanned. I doubt there will be many interested parties in a piloted version. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is advancing the remote piloted tech by leaps and bounds, similarly the anti-aircraft/anti-drone tech is getting better ridiculously fast.
WhippetRun@reddit
OK Satan, or Halliburton 😜
stevebristol@reddit
They already have. Take the human out and you've got a drone.
W8_420@reddit
I was just about to say this
Itchy_Lab6034@reddit
If the general public has access to the technology it means it’s already obsolete for the the military. This was their tech 12 years ago
AloysBane3@reddit
Kinda like the Apache helicopter?
Sockerkatt@reddit
Explosives, a red headband and a shout of banzai will do the trick
J662b486h@reddit
And sex! Not sure how, but porn sites were a driving force behind developing credit card payment systems on the early internet.
Makkaroni_100@reddit
Nothing what a drone could already do.
TestyBoy13@reddit
I could this being a good rapid deployment troop transport for small formations
goldenthoughtsteal@reddit
It could be a way of evacuating wounded soldiers, medic finds someone who needs more than first aid, asks for one of these, it flies to the right location, strap wounded individual into drone, drone flies to field hospital way quicker than pretty much any other method if it's within 10km.
Chechewichka@reddit
Questionable, since it can carry just one man atm. But! Make a drone out of it and you get yourself a neat supply copter that can bring your troops a lot of supplies. Ukranians are already doing something similar with smaller drones and it's working.
TestyBoy13@reddit
I meant that each troop gets one. In a 4 man formation, it’s not all that unreasonable
Threepugs@reddit
except for the fact that their combat radius would be measured in double digits and then you're lugging around what is probably at least 200kg extra per person in the squad until you're engaged/active.
TestyBoy13@reddit
I’m not suggesting a long range thing either. I’m talking an unarmed, fast and mobile vehicle that can operate at a local level to provide recon troops to set up posts near an FOB in a place like the pacific where there isn’t much land or infrastructure available for traditional land based systems. The marines have been looking into options similar to stuff like thos
NotCook59@reddit
Except you can actually ride in these.
Makkaroni_100@reddit
Without any Protection. Then you just can go with a motorcycle like the russians already do. You have also more reach. There could be some niche usecases, but only if it gets cheap.
NotCook59@reddit
“Protection”? From what? When I grew up, we didn’t have helmets for roller skates, let alone bicycles. No knee pads, heck, no seatbelts in the car. “Protection”’defeats natural selection.
Makkaroni_100@reddit
So you grew up in a war zone and performed roller skating in the trenches under artillery? I am surprised.
fnigler@reddit
Sick shadow zone pfp
Makkaroni_100@reddit
🤟
the_friendly_one@reddit
Where have you been the past 3 years? This is already happening.
nellyfullauto@reddit
Figure out a way to fuck it, faster still.
K_Linkmaster@reddit
Some white plastic suits chasing bear cubs...
AbbreviationsOk000@reddit
Like Death Race 😂
60secThermometer@reddit
don’t worry. palmer luckey was the first one to get his delivered
Amethyst_princess425@reddit
Imagine if they made a pickup version so it’ll end up being a flying technical.
mattstorm360@reddit
I feel like this would be like all those projects moving cargo on tracks. Just reinventing the train.
The future of warfare. An aircraft that can hover and shoot at a target. Never before seen!
A better use would be to remove the pilot from the frame and turning it into a big drone. Using the mass saved for weapons. Battery life would still be an issue.
YouEasy9340@reddit
$ACHR is already on the case 😂
truearse@reddit
Tell the USA china already has those for their military and watch them break out the death rays
BobbyTables829@reddit
In that case, just remove the pilot and make it a drone.
hennabeak@reddit
We already have it.
DocFail@reddit
Let people gamble on the wars and… oh , now I get it.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
That already exists, without the meat bags inside.
Old_Man_in_Basic@reddit
The most unpractical, slow, large, inefficient, bulging thing floating around in the sky, that you could hit even with a training archery kit and like 20 minutes of practice? Something that would be a massive waste of money and just get anyone killed who uses it?
$500 billion defense budget granted. Screw you drones! Man powered flight made way for drones, and now drones will make way for man powered drones!
flume@reddit
Honestly, probably not. The government cares way more about safety.
Due-Landscape-7359@reddit
They already have done that they are called helicopters. That is a four propeller personal helicopter
codecrodie@reddit
Painting tits on them will make the tech develop faster still
gligster71@reddit
I'm gonna need these equipped with paint ball guns & maybe a gunners seat.
GorgeWashington@reddit
Figure out a way to do porn with them and the era of flying cars will finally arrive
Diligent-Main9092@reddit
Make them race with weapons and allow people to gamble😎
John_____Doe@reddit
And making it a porn set will cause it to leap even faster
snk49erone@reddit
Porn, make it porn, thats the real accelerator!
SirGidrev@reddit
Probably developed under military contracts
TheGacAttack@reddit
Can they compete in war games while we bet on them?
TOMC_throwaway000000@reddit
That would kinda be working in reverse, no? We already have $100 drones very successfully dropping grenades on much more expensive military equipment and disabling it
Novajesus@reddit
Add a celebrity endorsement and you'll get people who can't even read wanting one.
NotCook59@reddit
Well, to be fair, celebrities are, like, doctors, pilots, scientists and stuff, soothe opinions are valuable. Well, at least they pretend to be on TV, and in the movies. That’s almost the same thing, right?
OrganizationPutrid68@reddit
Wright you are!
Cheoah@reddit
I see you
bighornybear@reddit
I think Dubai was planning on using them for traffic cops
SaviorAir@reddit
So you’re saying to buy Lockheed and Northrop
BGP_001@reddit
I'm sure this has already been looked in to. Probably very few cases you would need a human on board, but the ability to carry a human-weight payload is very useful
elPatronSuarez@reddit
Make the robots fuck and you'll see the future!
salacious_pickle@reddit
Probably already being done.
HyoukaYukikaze@reddit
You would be surprised how many "military" innovations originated in civilian competition spaces.
ThatAndresV@reddit
Nah, I’ve seen The Incredibles. More controls and safety features needed.
insidiousfruit@reddit
That would come if we allowed a few accidents and deaths to happen first. We wouldn't have seat belts or windshield wipers if we didn't allow people to drive cars.
NotAskary@reddit
We are seeing them already, no need to add a pilot, just make them flying bombs in the end.
A1BS@reddit
Let us gamble on the wars and it will leap even further
UrethralExplorer@reddit
Yeah, especially because these things have very limited flight duration/range.
chintakoro@reddit
looks like something small arms fire could easily bring down. drones area better proposition.
Dubbartist@reddit
I mean drones are progressing in huge leaps in Ukraine The last few years
34786t234890@reddit
I'm guessing you haven't been following current military trends because these things would be turned to shrapnel in seconds by a swarm of drones on a modern battlefield.
Educational-Sea-9700@reddit
Why would you build such a big drone and put a pilot in it, when you can have the same effect for 1/10th the price and the pilot being safely a few dozen Kms away?
saxonturner@reddit
Special forces applications, drop a few out a plane or off a warship, transport the special operatives to the point, turns into drone mode for recon overwatch. Comes back on command and take the special operative back to base.
W00DERS0N60@reddit
That's some Metal Gear Solid shit.
zevonyumaxray@reddit
And now you will get a call from the Pentagon planning department.
saxonturner@reddit
Brb, someone’s knocking my door.
Own_Wolverine4773@reddit
Do both, and you’ll be able to get one for 5k in 10 years
Sensei19600@reddit
I hate that expression! You know who never says it? The person that dies “doing what they love” SMH….
EggsceIlent@reddit
I bet crashing in these is fun.
Hopefully theyve borrowed from f1 and sports car racing in general and is or will use their monocoque tech, framing, neck restraints like hans devices and so on because those are high g impacts and wrecks including tumbling and roll overs.
Right now it just looks like a fast crotch rocket motorbike with propellers and I'm sure just as dangerous.
PutOptions@reddit
Yeah the inertial forces of the battery pack weight is a thing, but hey, no 100LL to ignite.
Brilliant-Goal-4405@reddit
I guess the first bets could be about who dies first 🥇
FoolishAdventurer@reddit
FF1 = Flight Formula 1 Complete with "Fly to Survive" Netflix show. Get Ferrari to invest first so they can be posh about it even when they screw up their strategies every race.
I'd bet we would invent some ultra light ultra strong polycarbonate to protect the pilots inside of a 3 years.
Python_07@reddit
Pod Racers. Find a pilot named Anakin.
jghaines@reddit
“Now THIS is pod racing!”
jghaines@reddit
“Now THIS is pod racing!”
dangledingle@reddit
DJI MAXI
Sea_Warning_9140@reddit
Now this is Pod racing!
emperormax@reddit
And add porn somehow
FondantIcy8185@reddit
Too Many spinning stuff for porn.
Guys would be too scared of getting 'something' chopped off
locsbox@reddit
Ever getting closer to IGPX
Ologunde@reddit
Or find a way to utilise them in porn… the technology will leap fast and hard (ahem) 😇😇😇😇😇😇
if-I-@reddit
They already have races https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgCKTZMFSBY
PhDinDildos_Fedoras@reddit
Wow, slow and boring!
AffordableDelousing@reddit
Whoever did this has too much money.
CaterpillarBroad6083@reddit
FPS Drone fast as fuck and pretty cool looking but this ... well they are trying really hard to make this look cool and it uh... doesn't.
HybridVW@reddit
Put bush wheels on them.
Parmcheesy@reddit
And MAX VERSTAPPEN WINS the first Formula Hover Grand Prix!
Brilliant-Goal-4405@reddit
It's inevitable to happen
TheLastBaron86@reddit
Exactly this, race them. Put some regulations out there that can be loosely interpreted and see what the engineers come up with
Affectionate_Tea1134@reddit
More like let people pay to race them around a certain course kinda like go karts. 🤔
beaucoup_dinky_dau@reddit
Now this is Pod racing!
amooz@reddit
I have a brilliant name for them too: pod racing!
GOD-PORING@reddit
Harry Potter Quidditch World Series
Badass_veer@reddit
That’s movie plot material
BobbyTables829@reddit
If there was a way to make sure they stayed safe when they crashed, I would be all over this.
trashy1978@reddit
Came here to say this!
toad__warrior@reddit
This idea brought to you my FanDuel
FireReads_Bomber@reddit
"Now this is pod racing" Little Anakin.
oldfarmjoy@reddit
Redbull!!! Get on it!!
oblizni@reddit
Add some rocket launchers to it i would watch that 24/7
POMO2022@reddit
And there needs to be two bases with flags.
bumbumpopsicle@reddit
Ukraine would wreck shop by putting a few rockets and a gun on one of those.
Final_Alps@reddit
There is no pint anymore sending humans into the strong lines on something like this.
Drones fly faster re harder to detect and if shot down the operator is piloting another one in no time. I mean with a person on board s huge machine like this can likely not carry much else. Bit ditch the pilot and you likely vane 70-100kg of capacity for … things.
ride_whenever@reddit
Put the remote control onto these, then you can have 70-100kg of freedom delivered “to whom it may concern”
Glasvandrare@reddit
"What do you call flying soldiers on the battlefield?"
"Skeet"
secretincognitouser@reddit
Exactly. There is no need for a human to be in the craft, all combat functions can be performed by an operator remotely using a camera and gps. Military aviation has learned much from the Ukraine conflict, the days of $80 million jets operated by a human pilot will soon be over.
Odd_Ad_5716@reddit
I agree. Rather Ilfiltration, than as a weapon carrier
Makkaroni_100@reddit
Drones do the job better and without human losses.
Beginning_Ad_6616@reddit
I was thinking the same exact thing hahaha
photoengineer@reddit
I was sad that never took off for the rocket plane racing. :(
Brilliant-Goal-4405@reddit
Not commercially efficient like these would be
gitpullorigin@reddit
It is all because they don’t accept credits
KuwabarasHair@reddit
Not fully there but it's something. Your comment made me think of this video I saw a few weeks ago. https://youtu.be/ysE8FMhAPH0
Way-twofrequentflyer@reddit
Have you tried looking for a slave boy on tatooine? They seem to be the best at racing them
Puzzled-Orchid-7282@reddit
Check out "Speedracer"
PuzzleheadedDuck3981@reddit
Already happening https://airspeeder.com/
EASmax_@reddit
Entering a Class B near you soon! /s
graspedbythehusk@reddit
Look, if you ignore ALLLLLL the issues everyone is pointing out, these do look fun as hell.
psychoholic@reddit
Seriously - I wouldn't commute to work on one (people have enough trouble navigating X and Y. Add some Z collisions to the equation and you've made traffic gazpacho). I'd want to hoon around on one.
PenHistorical@reddit
Not to mention the noise pollution of a bunch of these flying around all the time.
Afraid-Ground-975@reddit
Well, traffic in general is noisy. I'd have to be around these things and hear them in person.
Fit-Notice8976@reddit
Yea dude I’m not vectoring you fuckers on a morning commute
bjornbard@reddit
I would, apply same rules as for regular aviation, maybe reduced vertical separation, ie let them fly below 1000 feet AGL, in 100 feet increments and above 1k follow the same rules as everyone else. They can receive flight following, but are not guaranteed separation by ATC
cybender@reddit
Altitude will be the next passing lane!
featheredass@reddit
Infinite passing lanes!
commandercool86@reddit
Why is everyone in the passing lanes!?!?!
cybender@reddit
Descend or gtf out of my way, a$$hole! Honk. Honk.
Fantastic_Shake_9492@reddit
Why’s that guy empennagegating me?
PhthaloVonLangborste@reddit
It's got one of those shity compact car horns you can't even hear over the wind and blades
cybender@reddit
Probably stole it off a Vespa, too.
outworlder@reddit
I really dislike this "passing lane" notion. Somehow people think it gives them permission to speed, which it doesn't. And it reduces the throughput by basically eliminating one lane.
cybender@reddit
I understand where you’re coming from. I think this is more of an example of individualism and interpretation of laws based on one’s own “circumstances” and how that is a plague on society.
This “me” not “we” mentality is becoming further engrained in each generation. I’ll end my rant, but people speeding to pass has very little to do with what the lane is called and more to do with people just doing what they want, how they want, when they want regardless of others.
altitude-adjusted@reddit
Four spinny whirly things on the ground at femoral artery height? What could go wrong?
canuckcrazed006@reddit
Guaranteed you would have to incorporate autopilot into the unit. Not to mention securing landing permits where ever it goes. The faa would be tripping balls over this.
Pshad4Bama@reddit
Traffic gazpacho…. Stealing that for my band name
jus10beare@reddit
I'm stealing "Goon around on one"
aclong154@reddit
Yah, the problem with flying car is that people only imagine their car flying alone, not with others.
lowrads@reddit
I don't want to have to look up when crossing the street.
Please ban these from cities.
Cyber_Fetus@reddit
But they would just fly over you, why would this be a problem?
IWasSayingBoourner@reddit
I'd rather have a whole additional dimension to avoid idiots
Rhawk187@reddit
That's the thing, we're going to need fully autonomy before these become daily passenger use.
seaburno@reddit
Just add a MCAS system. I hear Boeing had a good one 10 years ago that could probably be ported directly into these.
GiordanoBruno23@reddit
Adjusting yaw while texting
almostDynamic@reddit
I am 100% willing to die on one of these.
Airk640@reddit
A paintball into a rotor of your opponent would definitely end the game in your favor.
Probably would kill your friend, but hey they died doing what they love.
Optimal-Complaint454@reddit
“Died doing what they loved”. Screaming as they fell to earth
graspedbythehusk@reddit
If he dies, he dies. That means I win 🤣
almostDynamic@reddit
I mean we can test these things. I volunteer
psychoholic@reddit
I want to do one of those Red Bull Air Race courses on one! Absolutely on the dogfighting with my moron friends.
almostDynamic@reddit
Like bro…. Put some of those little rockets we used launch as kids on there.
If we put safety third, everything about these is awesome.
Capn_Flags@reddit
Laser tag.
IamJewbaca@reddit
Like the little Estes rockets with black powder motors and parachutes that worked 30% of the time?
battlecryarms@reddit
This guy gets it.
TheFrenchSavage@reddit
Just like a regular quad. It's dangerous but fun.
FCoDxDart@reddit
Not even close. If the quad unexpectedly dies your just fine. If this thing does you’re in a world of hurt.
DarthStrakh@reddit
Can these not autorotate? If not I'd never fucking fly in one xD.
FCoDxDart@reddit
Even if they could it wouldn’t save you in the slightest when you 50ft off the ground. You’d be hitting dirt before you knew what happened.
brickmaus@reddit
They look just safe enough that a crash would not result in certain death, just a couple lifelong debilitating injuries.
yoweigh@reddit
It's like a flying roll bar capsule. Looks like it's designed to tumble if it crashes.
Exotic-Sale-3003@reddit
Throw some airbags on to absorb crash energy and manage your terrain and limit altitude and they could probably be pretty damn safe.
altitude-adjusted@reddit
Have you met the average human? They'd be "hold my beer" and then whammo.
wanerious@reddit
Seems like things could be workable under some sort of regulation that any device like this has to be able to talk to all the others within ~400m and have autonomous crash avoidance.
WaterChicken007@reddit
Limiting altitude might actually make it LESS safe. With a higher altitude you could have the ability to deploy a parachute. But flying super low wouldn't allow enough time for it to deploy. You can die from falling off a ladder, so they are plenty high to suffer serious injuries if they fell from the sky.
Exotic-Sale-3003@reddit
Which is why I recommended airbags - they’re used by moto racers today and can deploy fast enough to mitigate high speed impact if you keep altitudes low enough so an airbag system can absorb crash energy. That becomes less effective pretty quickly because energy increases with altitude.
Parachutes might help at high altitude, but:
1) are useless in a low altitude regime where they can’t deploy fast enough
2) are likely to fail in the event of a spin (like one motor died).
A combination of the two might cover a broader range, but for pod racing airbags and staying at low altitude would be better probably.
Sea_Warning_9140@reddit
Won't be much fun if it lands on someone's head tho
changee_of_ways@reddit
but it's got zero crumple zone, any collision with anything at too steep of an angle and it's basically going to transfer all that energy into liquefying your insides.
lowrads@reddit
Safe for whom?
No-Weird3153@reddit
Just 20-40 feet of spiraling fall combined with the rotor shrapnel on collision. But it does look like it would be fun until then.
J662b486h@reddit
It's those propellers that look scary. The propellers on industrial drones can decapitate someone, these have to be at least as dangerous.
r2k-in-the-vortex@reddit
These look exactly like certain death machines when the first thing inevitably goes wrong.
They look to have fully redundant systems, so if one simply switches off, maybe the second has enough power to land in one piece. But for example a bird can easily take out two props and then its kaput, total loss of control instantly.
Loss of control is the biggest danger of such machines, because they are absolutely not controllable unless everything is working properly.
speedracer73@reddit
Come on now. Equip them with a Cirrus style parachute that can deploy at 1500 AGL or higher and we're in business. Though I guess from 1500 AGL to the ground would be considered the death zone
hepstah@reddit
Where do I sign.
LupineChemist@reddit
Yeah this looks super amazingly fun. Also...how I will die.
theaviationhistorian@reddit
It seems really fun, but I have no interest in riding the Slicer Dicer 3000.
Megaddd@reddit
Which is likely 100% of their intended use case
NoRealName73@reddit
How do I get one?
Crazy_Speed_7735@reddit
anyone who have info about this please let us know more
Cross58Crash@reddit
That's an awful lot of open blades in places where they can really create problems.
MolassesLate4676@reddit
That’s what I think every time I’m shaving my nuts
BavarianBanshee@reddit
It's risky business
NoCan3822@reddit
You’d technically have to contact ATC every time you used these right?
beastpilot@reddit
These are flying jet skis. They're for fun not travel. They're going to be riskier than a commercial airliner like a jet ski is to a cruise ship. Why is everyone bagging on them as impractical when they were never meant to be practical?
zestyclose_match1966@reddit
This Reddit, that’s why
OnlyEntrepreneur4760@reddit
but jet skis don’t bump into power lines.
photoengineer@reddit
Jet ski is a good analogy. So many people get hurt on those things.
Yddalv@reddit
How do you get hurt on jetski ?
PleiadesMechworks@reddit
Falling off, getting run over, running into things...
FullThrotleAristotle@reddit
Primarily running into things. I hit an old dock support, basically a 10 inch thick wood piller cut just below the water line. Stopped me dead in my tracks and I think I lost my virginity to the handlebars.
KhellianTrelnora@reddit
When I was a kid, a friend of mine was on a jet ski and went between a boat and its skier.
Line caught him on the neck. He got exceptionally lucky, but he was in the hospital for like a month.
kwaping@reddit
That's how my brother died
PleiadesMechworks@reddit
in my experience it's usually people hitting a wave wrong and getting thrown off, but I mostly see them around the beach where the worst you're usually gonna do is run aground if you get too close
jus10beare@reddit
In order to turn you have to be under power. This is counter intuitive. If you slow down you keep going straight into whatever is in front of you.
broncobuckaneer@reddit
Fall off when you hit a wave wrong while going 30mph. Collide with another jet ski. Collide with shore. Etc. Just Google jet ski accident and you'll find countless articles to read.
Xeno2277@reddit
Jetski go fast, jetski sees other boat, jetski go bonk
DontEatTheMagicBeans@reddit
In my case I ended up on land. Other people hit each other/boats/debris. Same way you can get hurt on a bicycle except with 200 horsepower and no brakes.
DDX1837@reddit
Here's one.
https://www.fox4now.com/marco-island/two-bodies-recovered-from-the-water-on-marco-island-police
kwaping@reddit
My brother died on a jet ski
compute_fail_24@reddit
I had no idea people died from those things - apparently 40-50 a year is common. Sorry my friend :(
Capn_Flags@reddit
I rented a supercharged model once. Face melting fast. I was up to 70mph blink of an eye. At least on my bike I have brakes!
Qfarsup@reddit
Wait til you hear about motorcycles.
glockster19m@reddit
Honestly less than I thought
Nvrmnde@reddit
I'm sorry
Marston_vc@reddit
I immediately was thinking of practical uses for them. Put a “tray” underneath and now you have a rapid rescue transport that could fit into much tighter areas a helicopter couldn’t. Could be used on ski resorts or other similar “remote” recreational activities. Might might be a much cheaper alternative to a helicopter.
Could be a convenient way to transport small groups of soldiers around a dispersed/hard to access front line like what we see with Ukraine.
guidomescalito@reddit
These would be great for rounding up cattle on difficult terrain. The noise and wind would probably spook them though
tashibum@reddit
To be fair, rounding them up is just spooking them in the direction you want them to go.
Sporkwind@reddit
Eh, sometimes. Spook them too much and they can jump through you or split even with a pretty controlled setup. Find it more effective to entice with feed if you can.
not_ElonMusk1@reddit
Exactly this and people do it in R22s and R44s all the time which are much louder, and they're generally flying almost as low as these are (look up Aussie heli mustering)
twat69@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TqDeEL5ou4
SciGuy013@reddit
literally just use a helicopter
Affectionate_Fan_650@reddit
I don;t know. There's probably little that this thing can do in its current form that wouldn’t be safer, cheaper, and more efficient with a UAV.
Affectionate_Fan_650@reddit
A jetski losing power means you drift. A manned quadcopter losing power means you fall-- fast.
beastpilot@reddit
Which is why this has two batteries and eight motors that are independent.
415SFG@reddit
I used to have a jet ski. Pretty fun to ride but only for like 20 minutes. I was thinking this would be about the same but you wouldn't want to try stuff like you would on the water because then you're smacking solid ground and shattering some vertebrae. It would get boring fast if you played it safe.
DrierFish@reddit
I’d love traveling on a Jet Ski.
WrongdoerIll5187@reddit
I do think larger versions of this are about to be practical.
PandaCheese2016@reddit
Maybe point to point preprogrammed routes in heavily congested areas? VIP transport basically when you absolutely must cross the city in a short amount of time.
GothmogBalrog@reddit
Except generally there are less things to hit in the water and when you fall off, you fall off into water. Or when it just breaks down you just float.
These are inherently riskier because they are flying and near more stuff
beastpilot@reddit
Then think of motorcycles. We allow those and they're pretty darn dangerous, and there is lots to hit on those that will kill you.
But lots of people die each year on Jet Skis and they also kill other people like people swimming.
Rooster-Training@reddit
Well there are areas of the world where vehicle traffic is horrible and the geography of the area makes commuting a shit show. If these can be fleshed out to a point where they are safe to fly, have collision avoidance features to prevent in air collisions with each other, and the ground infrastructure gets created to land and charge them. Places like the SF bay area could greatly benefit. Imagine just flying straight across the bay instead of dealing with bridges and tunnels.
justsomeboredloner@reddit
Well they could be made safer, like grills to protect you from the blades, airbags etc... I bet we'll see more and more of these in the future. Flying cars are finally here!
JPAV8R@reddit
Flying cars will not be here until automation is 100%, 100% of the time. You can not trust the average person to pilot something on 3 dimensions without training above and beyond what it takes to drive a car.
Imagine your least tech savvy worst driver family member whos in a quadcopter a few to a few hundred feet in the air and they now have to take over for the autopilot and fly a stricken copter to the ground
justsomeboredloner@reddit
Yeah I agree, but you kind of pointed out a solution in your comment. Autopilot. It already exists so why not adapt it to this? I'm not saying it's a good idea! Seeing how drones have evolved on the last few years it seems like an obvious progression of the tech. Again, not a good idea, there will be horrible accidents! But it's coming.
JPAV8R@reddit
I fly a plane with an autopilot but it’s not 100%, 100% of the time that’s why I’m needed I’m also a trained professional.
In order for this to be available to the non-flying public as a transportation option the automation needs to be fail proof and capable of landing automatically in all conditions.
justsomeboredloner@reddit
Yup, agree, but the tech will improve with time. Again, I'm not saying it's a good idea! Just natural progression. I think in the future there will many videos of flying jetskis smashing into all sorts of things 😅
JPAV8R@reddit
I agree with you It will.
You’ll need the generation of kids that drove around in fully autonomous driving cars to become the lawmakers before they get codified into existence. So put this in the 75-100 year range provided the tech can meet that need.
justsomeboredloner@reddit
Well, call me cynical, but I'm looking forward to the next 75 to 100 years (not that I'll live that long) of insane videos while the tech gets sorted out. It's going to be nasty!
Duckbilling2@reddit
people just love dogging on new tech, until it's widespread.
1904 - these planes are unsafe and they'll never catch on, they're just like ______ but in the sky
GrynaiTaip@reddit
Manufacturer claims that they are the future of transportation. Personal flying cars and all that.
Mandfried@reddit
Not "never". These were literally introduced as a "new way to travel" few years ago.
holzmann_dc@reddit
What is their payload range?
SlavaCocaini@reddit
If they put ducts around the props so people can't clip them on trees, and maybe big air bags on the bottom, and a parachute, they might be ok.
tomparker@reddit
Riding Jet skis while playing Jarts.
CousinEddysMotorHome@reddit
So many boomer comments against these things on this sub. They will occupy a recreational space for fun, and if we are being honest, the faa will regulate most of the fun out of these.
WhiteHeteroMale@reddit
Why you gotta insult the people you disagree with? Make your points and see if they stand in their own feet.
Dizzy-Confection-551@reddit
Fuk e-bikes. Buy ya kids 1 of these. Get em out cruising around Brisbane in 'em. They seem pretty safe.
G7VFY@reddit
New youtube 'New ways to die or get maimed with your $100k quadcopter' sounds like a great youtube channel.
Altruistic_Pitch_157@reddit
Now THAT'S pod racing!
JAW_Industries@reddit
I thought they were gonna crash two times at the start of the video lol
SecretOrganization60@reddit
For the correct distance, it looks like a very quick way to get a person or sniper on site.. Would also them a quick way to withdraw quietly and fast. Helicopters take time to spool up and they make a lot of noise while presenting a large target. Besides, this person wouldn't even require a crew.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yes it is, that's a nice analysis
Ficsit-Incorporated@reddit
Those look like disasters and subsequent lawsuits waiting to happen. Will they kill the operators or bystanders in greater numbers? Only time will tell.
Binspin63@reddit
lol, the first thing I thought was oh man, that looks like fun. Then, immediately I’m thinking like you, how many people will be killed or maimed?
REpassword@reddit
Right! Those blades ain’t gonna stop themselves - more like flesh and bones will stop them.
insidiousfruit@reddit
If motorcycles were invented today, we wouldn't be able to drive motorcycles on public roads.
I say fuck it, deregulate these things to the max. I want flying cars for personal use, and society will have to accept that people will die to make this new form of mobility available to the masses.
ashzeppelin98@reddit
Some of you may die...
lowrads@reddit
It's more about hazards to others. Motorcyclists kill comparatively few pedestrians in total, but more per vehicle kilometer traveled. It's a bit harder for them to crash through walls of buildings.
Some selfish person will try to operate these oversized blenders through urban areas.
insidiousfruit@reddit
I mean, that should be the goal. Yeah, people are going to get hurt and die for a few years, but over time, we will get better at mitigating that risk. I think the price is worth it to revolutionize personal transport in a way not seen since the invention of the horseless carriage (automobile).
lowrads@reddit
Such a noble notion.
It's already a big enough fight to kick private operated vehicles out of the parts of cities where they don't belong. There is zero logical reason to tolerate city design that makes flying blenders a viable option, much less any sort of necessity.
We should take a page out the early twentieth century, and require a person on the ground with a safety flag follow along underneath wherever the albatrossless carriage is operating.
insidiousfruit@reddit
Cities are already designed for these things. They look like they would fit in a car parking spot perfectly.
lowrads@reddit
After a few years of tolerating this, police will be arresting or ticketing any pedestrians that don't use approved tunnels for crossing between buildings.
insidiousfruit@reddit
That would suck, but I also doubt that is what would happen.
lowrads@reddit
People probably found the crime of jaywalking equally ludicrous when it was introduced, but didn't mind so long as it was initially only enforced against children and minorities.
After being banished to the sidewalks, pedestrians then discovered that those were being narrowed with each resurfacing event. Once the aerorists take over, they'll be demanding that pedestrians be banished from surface level streets entirely, for their own safety, same as any aeroport. In a few areas where businesses are upset by this, there will be gutters through which pedestrians can perambulate.
insidiousfruit@reddit
Honestly, the only thing that is going to need to be regulated about these things is the sound and flying height with more regulations to follow as more accidents happen.
mvgreene@reddit
Sounds like the gun argument.
EveryNameBeenTook@reddit
Okay Charlie Kirk
danrunsfar@reddit
You sound like a Luddite who would tell the Wright Brothers they shouldn't test their flying contraption because people might die in them, or the caveman saying "fire bad" instead of trying to harness it for cooking and warmth.
ScaramouchScaramouch@reddit
I think the problem isn't about the risk to the people flying the thing but to the uninvolved people it will inevitably crash into.
danrunsfar@reddit
The same thing was said about horses, horse drawn carriages, bicycles, horseless carriages (aka cars), planes, etc.
Homesick_Martian@reddit
Not to mention, how safe do you think the operator is, actually? Falling from 50 feet is like getting hit by a car going 40 miles an hour. Sure hope nothing binds, or the battery/fuel doesn’t run out! Those rotors don’t seem large enough to autorotate and generate lift in a fall….
featheredass@reddit
Dude, our main mode of transportation is driving heavy metal boxes 70 mph or more just one big step to the right of drivers doing the same thing in the opposite direction. It’s absolute madness. We have technology that can put drones gently on the ground when the battery gets too low, and sensors that help prevent collisions.
Homesick_Martian@reddit
I was texting with a family member about this after writing that comment. I actually don’t think it would be too hard to put an altimeter that is tied to a lower aimed sensor on one of these. Of course, you’ll need to train it for trees, but we can do that too.
It would be easy to make these safer and more reliable, but the parking sensors in my car are currently broken and I’ve just turned it off. Some people will override those safeties, and at least with cars, I only have to look at roughly eye level. I don’t wanna have to look up now too for dangers before crossing the road, ya know?
That being said, goodness these would be so fun to fly recreationally. Imagine ripping through a canyon over a creek/river? Just maybe not a primary mode of transportation?
featheredass@reddit
I hear you, but I lean a different direction. I see these as potential self-driving, fuel-saving and time-saving commuters, and possibly regulated to stay in broad corridors above existing roads up to a certain altitude where some more “as the crow flies” liberties could be had for efficiency’s sake. Obviously nobody want’s these flying over their backyard bbq, but many of is in the city already have planes and choppers within earshot at all times. I also think they could be required to be equipped to communicate with a network that knows when they’re being operated and formulates a route to your input destination using three dimensional space that avoids collisions with all the other fliers.
Recreational fliers manually controlling would be the wildcards, and I agree they may need to be regulated away from populated areas and into designated places where they can have their fun and test the limits of the machines, much like quad runners and jet skis are relegated to recreational areas.
Just spitballing—obviously there would be scenarios and complications to figure out in order to get these into the consumer space (birds, trees, weather, privacy, etc.), but that’s what we’ve been doing since the advent of the industrial revolution, and I was ready for these the first time I got stuck in a traffic jam and saw thousands of cubic miles of empty space around me, and nowhere to go…
GrynaiTaip@reddit
You sound like an absolutely insane psycho who is willing to kill people for fun.
GrynaiTaip@reddit
How about no.
I am not willing to die because you are flying drunk and you crash into a crowd of pedestrians.
localtuned@reddit
Nah they'd cut through em like a hot knife and butter.
EkbatDeSabat@reddit
I have no idea about physics and this kind of stuff, but does anyone know if it would be remotely possible to put a blade stop like a table saw sawstop on them? Yes it's still going to absolutely destroy someone due to sheer force/weight, but one problem at a time. Stopping the blades if they touch flesh is just one thing checked off.
Ok-Comment-9154@reddit
Idk quadcopters have become extremely reliable. It was only a matter of time until this happened.
They use large industrial drones for farming and to move goods back and forth over canyons. The tech had to become super reliable for those use cases to be feasible.
Not saying it's not dangerous, but I wouldn't be surprised if the accident rate is similar to jet skis or other such leisure vehicles like ATVs.
MiHumainMiRobot@reddit
They are not extremely reliable. A loss of engines on the same arm (in the video) and that's an unrecoverable crash.
Ok-Comment-9154@reddit
I said quadcopters have become extremely reliable. That's my lived experience.
I have basically a fleet of them at this point and they really only fail due to user error these days. It wasn't the case ten years ago.
This human carrying one is not much different from an agriculture drone, in terms of engineering. Those, too, have become extremely reliable. If you have high quality motors and rotors they don't just drop out of the sky. You also need to test and replace things like this once in a while, like a car or a boat. Otherwise of course it eventually fails.
MiHumainMiRobot@reddit
What I meant is that the consequence of a major failure (2 motors) on these quadcopters are way bigger than conventional aircraft.
An helicopter will recover from a engine fault, even 2 engines faut.
A plane will land even with the loss of all engines.
Those quadcopters will not, and never will.
Ok-Comment-9154@reddit
Yes. That is true.
The failure of two motors is extremely unlikely in the absence of human error.
But you're right. If it happens you're boned.
However if this becomes popular you can engineer some safety precautions. Anything can be made relatively safe with enough iteration.
This conversation seems to ignore the origins of planes and helicopters in general. They were death traps, too, for a long time.
Formula one cars, absolutely death traps for a lot of the history of the sport. Now people crash at 300kmh go flying flipping through the air and walk out unharmed.
Spark_Ignition_6@reddit
Not how commercial aviation works. You do the correct engineering and safety work, then you put the general public on it.
Ok-Comment-9154@reddit
Hindenburg? Titanic? Haha
Anyway you're twisting my words I never said that the popularity and wider use will come chronologically prior to the gradual engineering of safety precautions and introduction of regulations.
What I said, or meant, is that if the demand ramps up so too will regulation and safety. Just like literally any other type of vehicle which has ever been developed.
Remember we didn't need to even have seat belts in our car and cars had no crumple zones? Maybe you're too young. Millions of people have died in cars. They gave gotten way safer over the decades but people still die. People still die in trains and planes and cars, but, they get safer over time.
This is all a silly conversation anyway I don't think this becomes popular outside of some random rich dudes. There will never be the financial incentive to iterate this until it's as safe as a car. But it would definitely be possible.
You even contradict yourself in your other comment where you clearly refer to danger and re-iteration as the driver of progress in terms of safety. But here in this comment you imply that the safety comes before the public even uses the service. False. It comes with accidents and reiteration.
Spark_Ignition_6@reddit
That wasn't because we didn't realize crashes were dangerous pre-seat belts. Seat belts were invented and available in U.S. production cars in the '50s, long before they were required in the '80s. What changed was not the feasibility of seat belts; what changed was our tolerance of needless death. Our safety standards increased.
That has already happened for aviation. The standards are already very high, and it's extremely unlikely this thing can meet them.
No, I was pointing out how different designs have dramatically different safety levels regardless of maintenance practices. You can't just magically make a type of aircraft super-safe once it passes some bar of popularity.
Spark_Ignition_6@reddit
The engineering challenges for a small quadcopter aren't even in the same ballpark as something like this.
Quadcopters are trivial to build and make reliable. Something 200x larger and heavier is not.
Yeah, the parts are extremely reliable. So are the parts that go into helicopters. Those don't "just drop out of the sky" either. Maybe these have a failure rate of 1 in 100,000 hours. That's stupidly reliable. But when you're flying a few million hours a year and every time one fails somebody literally dies, that becomes a different type of discussion pretty quickly.
Ok-Comment-9154@reddit
But sir that's why I spoke about heavy load drones like agri drones. I never said a small quad is the same ball park as a very large manned aircraft. Don't try make it seem like I did.
No. Most likely not. That's why you have maintenance schedule like any aircraft parts. It's much cheaper to replace a rotor every X months than it is to change a massive jet engine. So it's kind of an irrelevant comparison.
It's more like changing a tire every 5 years. But even more frequently. You'd probably change motors at something like that cadence as well. And you'd of course have to keep all the components clean and maintained all the time.
Spark_Ignition_6@reddit
Increased maintenance does not fix the whole problem. Piston aircraft engines have a failure rate of 1 in 3,500 flight hours, roughly, despite seeing more maintenance than airliner engines.
If achieving extremely high reliability was just a matter of throwing more engineering at it and replacing parts appropriately, we would never have any crashes in any segment of aviation at all.
whistleridge@reddit
You are referring to widely tested and mature unmanned quads, that have completely different engineering requirements to those designed to be manned. The consequences of failure are much lower.
You’re also relying on anecdote because failure rates aren’t tracked with anything like the sort of precision that manned aviation failures would be. Because the stakes are so much lower, the acceptable rate for failure in unmanned quads is necessarily much higher.
If you’re in one of these and you have a bird strike, or a lightning strike, or icing, or there’s fog, or someone else in one hits you, you’re a brick, and you’re dead. There’s no chute or autorotate or glide to save you, and none of those are user error.
Yes: if you fly one of these solo on a nice clear day, your odds of it just stopping working are very low. But that’s like saying that, because you can drive very safely around an empty parking lot, cars are safe and have no issues that don’t come from user error.
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
At no point in this did I think it was a mechanical risk that would be the cause of the danger. It's the fact that this seems to be explicitly designed to basically be a flying toy for low level flight and recreational use.
It's not the equipment I'm worried about, it's the kind of person who would be interested in buying it that makes me worried.
Efficient_Reading360@reddit
I think it should be called the decapinator
atlien0255@reddit
That’s where my head is went 💀
proriin@reddit
When do we get pod racing is what I want to know.
Klinky1984@reddit
How many died in the pod racing scene? watches death explosion "Now this is pod racing!"
zevonyumaxray@reddit
Maybe that's what Area 51 is working on.
PropOnTop@reddit
I'm normally very cautious-minded, but with drones specifically, the introduction curve has so far been relatively smooth. We've been through the 'asshole flying up through clouds to 12000ft altitude' stages and drone flying in Europe is practically impossible.
The systems in these things will probably not allow their owners to fly them high, in exclusion zones, and hopefully, into their own propwash either.
There will be the odd adventurer landing into trees because they won't respect the battery level indicator, but with some kind of parachute and prop-stopping even total failure events at altitude could be relatively benign...
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
I'm not even thinking about any of that either, I'm thinking of low level aerobatics going wrong and them running into things.
This has Roy Halladay type accident written all over it, but now even more accessible to moderately rich adrenaline junkies.
PropOnTop@reddit
Sure, but the difference with drones/quadcopters is that without the software, they are basically uncontrollable for a regular person.
So the software will probably prevent any aerobatics that the owners might try... I'm sure they'll try though.
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
If their plan is to have a constantly running fly by wire system that will simply ignore pilot input as part of its normal routine then I'm less worried because this thing will never be FAA certified and it's dead on arrival lol
66hans66@reddit
Plan? That is literally what is required at all times to keep a multicopter in the air.
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
Fly by wire alone is fine. It's the "oh we'll just have it not do things the pilot commands to prevent unsafe flying" part that would be an issue.
66hans66@reddit
*Alpha floor protection has entered the chat.
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
That's a very different thing from having a system that just like, constantly monitors bank angle and orientation and won't accept commands even if the vehicle isn't in a stall lol.
66hans66@reddit
Oh do I have news for you.
Are you actually this ignorant of how FBW works, or are you trolling?
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
If you think that fly by wire can just fundamentally reject pilot input, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Fly by wire simply means that there isn't a direct physical linkage between the cockpit controls and the control surfaces. A huge benefit of this is that, for aircraft that would require superhuman precision to remain in controlled flight, you can have the system handle the constant small adjustments necessary.
In no world is fly by wire taking a command stick input and just going "nah, can't do that"
PropOnTop@reddit
What are you actually even arguing at this point? I've lost track, that's why I'm asking. u/66hans66 is just trying to point out to you that with multicopters, there is NO possibility of a non-fly-by-wire system. A human literally cannot operate those machines, period (save for the best of the best). Same as military airplanes with aerodynamic characteristics that do not allow for direct human control.
Of course multicopters will come with heaps of autonomous functions: even making it to hover is only possible by gently telling an autonomous function what you would like it to do.
Anyone can see how unstable multicopters are with and without assistance - just get a cheap one and see for yourself.
66hans66@reddit
I'm done here.
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
Unless you're seriously expecting them to put a whole ass Airbus/Boeing style intelligent flight control system on this with full on normal law and alternate law implementation, yes, you are.
But that would be fucking insane for a GA individual mobility doctor killer startup.
ABillionBatmen@reddit
But this guy is not even concerned with that, he's concerned with how he can be concerned!
aiusernamegen@reddit
You need to be in an airpark. for RC aircraft. What will be the restrictions on these? Farms like in the video? That's agreeable. Over houses or pedestrians, hell no. They're officially missles.
Challenge-Upstairs@reddit
I don't really see the difference between this and any other ultralight. Anyone with absolutely zero training or knowledge can buy an ultralight, take off, fly (specifically restricted to low flight), and crash.
This is literally just another ultralight.
lordnacho666@reddit
I could see a taxi service done with these things. One where the passenger can't just steer it wherever he wants. Open app, tap where you want to go, quadcopter takes you there, you take in the view.
noclue9000@reddit
And the app knows all the powelines,?
Not even speaking that you can't just low level fly over other people's private property
lordnacho666@reddit
Solvable issues.
What's not so easy to solve is people driving themselves.
Meth_Useler@reddit
As someone who flies drones, I can say power lines aren't that solvable right now. But yeah, flying cars means aerial DUIs are inevitable (Posthumously)
noclue9000@reddit
Just don't see the advantage to self driving cars, Unless of course one ignores all rights of people's property and safety.
lordnacho666@reddit
I mean driving these vehicles. Piloting.
Sixguns1977@reddit
That would suck. The only way this is cool is if I can drive it around myself.
WazirOfFunkmenistan@reddit
App malfunctions. Now you are heading to FL 2000 .
Rdubya291@reddit
Meh - let's hit orbit while we're at it.
TTwisted-Realityy@reddit
Oh good now I'll show up to a mall to warn them about 2024.
NordicCrotchGoblin@reddit
It's me, I am the danger. If I a had one, I'd blast Kickstart My Heart and try a barrel roll over a group of bikers.
Eltex@reddit
I’m good with all that. Risk is cool. We need that to innovate. Yes, a battery powered car can catch fire and lock you inside to ensure the correct level of doneness. I see no issue.
And these look fun, and allow me to pass your slow-a** hogging the passing lane. So yeah, give it to me and let me fly.
Short-Ticket-1196@reddit
Don't text and fly! Oh, and bollards are now useless so the next van attack will be something else.
Bushboy2000@reddit
Like griefers, team killers in multiplayer games ? That type
lowrads@reddit
The difference is that a helicopter still works somewhat, even when it malfunctions. They can autorotate and glide, under optimal circumstances.
Multirotors are entirely dependent upon software control of rotor operation for stability.
NFTArtist@reddit
attach spinning blades to jetskiis and maybe you have a comparison, however there's also generally less people in the water than on land also
not_ElonMusk1@reddit
Just wait till you find out about the spinning blades already attached to jetskis
toddriffic@reddit
Jet skis use impellers which aren't exposed in any way. You would have to go out of your way to be injured by it.
not_ElonMusk1@reddit
It's actually pretty easy to be injured from a jet ski impeller and there are also direct prop based "jet skis" which technically sent jet skis in the true sense of the word but are considered as such by most people.
Thousands of people must be going out of their way every year given the number of jet ski based injuries and deaths reported.
Doesn't change the fact that they also use spinning blades at very high RPM.
You could just as easily shroud the motors and props on these and by your logic that would make them as safe as a jet ski? (Which isn't all that safe to begin with)?
toddriffic@reddit
You're 1000% wrong and doubling down on stupid. Impellers are far safer than the alternative, to suggest otherwise is pure ignorance.
PWC accidents have nothing to do with the supposed dangers of the blade and you are probably fully aware of that to make your (very incorrect) point.
not_ElonMusk1@reddit
I never said they weren't safer but the fact remains they can and do cause injuries and they also consist of very fast spinning blades.
My original comment was somewhat tongue in cheek but apparently your need to try and sound superior to internet strangers compelled you to comment without realising that I was clearly "taking the piss" lol
Ok-Comment-9154@reddit
Plenty of people have been fucked up badly by jet skis man.
These flying things will have rough regulations if it becomes popular.
Normal small quadcopter drones are already subject to regulations which (are supposed to) keep them well clear of people.
Also jet ski users don't use any kind of protective gear other than life vest. These dudes are kind of armoured up.
NFTArtist@reddit
You're talking about scale and regulations, I'm talking about the dangers of the craft itself. Obviously if you give 1 million drunk people a Jetskii and 100 pilots following aviation guidelines there's going to be a lot more Jetskii accidents.
If you have to choose a Jetskii flying towards you or a quadcopter the choice is pretty obvious.
baronmunchausen2000@reddit
While true, a jetski or ATV will not kill you if an engine fails. Here you are flying maybe 30-40 feet above the ground, which is 3 or 4 stories high. In a fixed wing aircraft, if you are above a certain height, you can glide back to the ground in case of engine failure. In rotary aircraft, you can autorotate to the ground in case of engine failure, above a certain height.
not_ElonMusk1@reddit
Ain't no way in hell you're autorotating from 30-40 feet.
Low altitude loss of lift is catastrophic in rotary craft if you're only 40ft up, just like it would be in these things. It's also pretty catastrophic in fixed wing craft from that height.
baronmunchausen2000@reddit
that is why i said "above a certain height", because it depends on the type of rotary craft. see the last sentence.
not_ElonMusk1@reddit
You're still not gonna have enough altitude to autorotate in that situation so it's a moot point.
Source: I'm an ex rotary wing pilot with many hours and many many autorotations completed
cybender@reddit
Just needs a gyro to keep it upright and some rockets to stop the rapid, vertical descent. /s
GarbageTheCan@reddit
Just look at people with cars on a 2d axis as en example.
noclue9000@reddit
Especially when it is not used by rich person x who bought it as a 30 000$ toy, but when it is at the third owner, Hannt been maintained and idiot cousin wants to FLy over a friend's wedding to drop roses, crashes 200kg of metal and himself falling from the 6th floor into the wedding, killing 3, maiming 8
Kamusaurio@reddit
this things are going to be as expensive as real planes
and if one day they share the same air space they are going to have the same regulations as planes in terms of service hours and restrictions
SchrodingersGoodBar@reddit
I’m certain they said the same thing about cars
KuwabarasHair@reddit
A huge deterrent against that for now is that the price of entry is around $150k give or take a bit. Been watching VTOLs for years as different companies have advertised and started releasing them.
Odd-Bag-5651@reddit
Are you old?
RandomCoolWierdDude@reddit
Id also like to point out that "safety above all else" still allows heavily leaded gasoline for literally no economic gain whatsoever
bsoto87@reddit
They’re gonna be dangerous the same way tilt rotor aircraft are dangerous, no way to make an emergency landing
Superb_Inflation144@reddit
That’s what they said about the first Automobiles when they came out…
and they were correct.
Superb_Inflation144@reddit
Ahh, that’s exactly what they said about the first Automobiles when they made their debut…
and they were correct.
johndsmits@reddit
1903 has called. There is huge, huge risk with these things, but as long as it's isolated and people truly understand the risks (like a test pilot does), then stuff like this can progress. That's good FAA CRM hands down.
On a positive note, at least they're staying under what looks like 12-15ft. Stay there and not higher (like 30) will minimize risk greatly, Speed wise is another question of risk.
SuDragon2k3@reddit
I think if they're height restricted to 30 feet, it'd about as dangerous as crashing a racing motorcycle. The height factor being mitigated by being in a racing harness inside a frame. So yes, there is the danger of serious injury and death, but we haven't banned motorcycles or motorcycle racing. Or NASCAR, or Formula One. I think the death/injury rate will be on par with these activities.
BAN_MOTORCYCLES@reddit
not yet
Duckbilling2@reddit
GA flying has a risk profile similar to riding a motorcycle on the street as well.
Spark_Ignition_6@reddit
Yeah, and if you think getting in one of these and flying around is going to be as statistically safe as flying a Cessna 172, you're an idiot.
Duckbilling2@reddit
your an idiot
Spark_Ignition_6@reddit
How many motorcycles crash from 30 feet in the air? lmao what
Bushboy2000@reddit
Like them 50klm/hr limited scooters etc that go flying past ya, while you doing 60 k 😀👍
Foreign_Implement897@reddit
Motorcycles do a lot of low level flying.
SuDragon2k3@reddit
And they don't have protection around the rider. You could probably mount airbags on the frame as well. It won't be 100% safe, but the risk will be lower.
fruskydekke@reddit
Stay there and not higher (like 30) will minimize risk greatly
Risk to whom? If I'm walking around, minding my own business, I sure as hell don't want someone in one of those contraptions to be that close to me.
PriusesAreGay@reddit
I am reasonably certain it isn’t going to be legal to fly these or any such thing over people and around structures aaaaaanytime soon. Like honestly, zero chance it won’t be any less illegal to fly a personal [whatever you call this] around close to people than any other aircraft or R/C.
This is some private property/away from people shenanigans stuff, and I don’t really see it taking off as much else tbh.
insaneplane@reddit
If the Wright brothers had posted on Reddit, would the comments be any different?
More_Nectarine@reddit
The times when a couple of deaths was considered a worthy sacrifice for science is over, at least for now.
thecmpguru@reddit
Tell that to cars in the US...
phaederus@reddit
Yes, now we do millions of deaths for the economy instead ✌🏻
GGCRX@reddit
Not really. Astronauts take an outsized risk every time they go into space. Hell, we almost lost two of 'em last year when their test-flight capsule lost a bunch of its thrusters.
The difference here is that this isn't for science, it's for doing donuts in the sky.
I'm a little mystified that there isn't at least a partial guard cage around those props. You know people are going to be landing these things off-airport where people don't know to watch for spinning props. Even cheapie drones from Best Buy have guards and you don't have to worry about lopping someone's head off with those.
Spark_Ignition_6@reddit
Comparing scaling up a quadcopter until you can put a sufficiently stupid-enough human inside to inventing powered flight is exactly the kind of informed aviation analysis I expect from /r/aviation.
HotCat5684@reddit
Literally anything remotely dangerous and/or innovative gets Hated on Reddit.
If we listened to Redditors advice, we literally never have any new technology.
The omnipresent nihilism of this site if quite ridiculous and pathetic.
GayRacoon69@reddit
No they wouldn't but also those comments would've been right. Early aviation was a deathtrap
The thing is there was a reason to keep pushing the limits despite the high risk.
What's the point of doing that with these?
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
Honestly, I do think the comments would be significantly different. We all understand that astronauts accept what would normally be unconscionable risk for the sake of advancing humanity. So do people in all sorts of other scientific endeavors, which early aviation definitely was, even if it wasn't nearly as professionalized as modern day science and research is.
But you're right, even bringing the Wright Brothers up here is ludicrous. The Wright Brothers were looking at making a major technical leap forward. These clowns want to build a flying jetski for people to dick around in.
grottman@reddit
Word! The wright brothers invention change the world forever. It should be compared to AI or something of that magnitude.
wyatt265@reddit
Mount a machine gun and ship them to Ukraine!
SoothedSnakePlant@reddit
Significantly, yes. The Wright Brothers were doing something that mattered with the end goal being a major leap forward for humanity and achieving a long-held dream of mankind.
These guys are building a flying ATV for rich people to fuck around with.
spazmatt527@reddit
The safest thing to do would be to just not fly at all. No aviation is the safest aviation. So you can't genuinely claim that safety is the top priority. It's better to say that flying is the top priority, just done in the safest way possible.
Montaire@reddit
What do you think early aviation was like? People were charging for flights on sketchy planes and explosive LTA craft. Militaries were sending people up in crazy risky aircraft to throw grenades at each other
It was absolutely wild
Mundane-Tale-7169@reddit
With that mindset we would still be ground-bound. Aviation does only exist, because there were people who did care more about their curiosity than about safety.
Ficsit-Incorporated@reddit
And that attitude is just fine when we’re talking about trained test pilots and/or pioneers who are only risking their own safety. But when your intent is to charge people money for an unproven and dangerous machine with a significant potential to injure others during an incident, that becomes a different calculus.
Mundane-Tale-7169@reddit
💯
EggsceIlent@reddit
Heck I didn't even think about one of these things losing control and flying into a crowd of people. Yikes.
BladeDoc@reddit
If we just cared about safety, we would ban civilian aviation and motorcycles which basically have equivalent death rates. Personally, I want one of these and the only thing is I don't know if my work will let me land in the parking lot.
Terrh@reddit
USA doesn't even require a pilot license or training for ultralights so I'm not sure how much I agree with that.
robthebuilder__@reddit
Says who? If it were about safety above all else without exceptions we literally would not have aviation. Do you know how many people died attempting to make flight a reality. Calculated risk is an essential part of human innovation and development.
mineordan12@reddit
Okay, but can I use it to shop in Walmart?
Fireside__@reddit
A paramotor is probably a better (and cheaper) bet than that techbro death trap.
Sure you don’t have VTOL but every Walmart has a parking lot and even a moderate wind (or a very generous driver) can get you up to takeoff speed.
Royal-Al@reddit
Yea and street lamps
insidiousfruit@reddit
We wouldn't be allowed to rode motorcycles if they were invented today.
I say completely deregulate these things. We can regulate and create safety features as we learn from all the deaths and accidents.
Sixguns1977@reddit
Same here, except for AI.
Liamnacuac@reddit
Whose this Al guy I keep hearing about??
Sixguns1977@reddit
I think he sells shoes in Chicago.
justdoubleclick@reddit
Just wait till people use those to fight over parking spaces at Walmart..
YakAddict@reddit
They could put parking on the roof
BrewCityChaserV2@reddit
Only on aisle five.
havoc1428@reddit
To be fair, aviation as a whole wouldn't exist without people experimenting and mucking around in their backyard workshops.
silentsnip94@reddit
Almost like car racing?
angusshangus@reddit
Autogyros and ultra lights have been a thing lunatics fly for decades. This thing isn’t all that different from a safety perspective
DarkwingDawg@reddit
Eh.. for airlines, absolutely. For the regular folk, I think a less restrictive focus should be applied. Let people explore and enjoy it and, hopefully, it will grow
eatenbyagrue@reddit
Are these things incredibly safe? No. Is it possible to build very safe versions with advanced autopilot and other controls? Probably someday. Do those safe versions ever get built if we don’t first build the first attempts? No.
“Safety above all else without exception” means no flying at all. Otherwise why would I ever get into a Piper Cub.
Unnuanced take here.
shaquille_oatmealo@reddit
Imagine if the wright brothers took your position
KaiAusBerlin@reddit
Still better than motorcycles
FlakyLion5449@reddit
The original trend in aviation was home brew. Experiment class exists for a reason.
soupkitchen3rd@reddit
In books, yes. In real life: cash rules everything around me, dollar dollar bills
Kelvin62@reddit
Each motor and rotor is critical. To my non engineer eyes there doesn't seem this was addressed.
Direct-Original-1083@reddit
Commercial and general aviation yes. As long as these people are only risking their own lives who are you to say what is too risky.
Cybertheproto@reddit
Scott Manley made a good video on something similar to these. Electric VTOLS that take advantage of an electric motor’s differing ability to gas. Could be the future of electric flight. Right now the main problem is overheating, but if you have proper training, it is entirely avoidable.
W00DERS0N60@reddit
This is what Ironclad release clauses are for.
Millerized@reddit
Those in the video don't look like they are very high off the ground and not moving very fast , if people stayed at that height there would probably be less injuries and deaths than motorcycles cause
speculator100k@reddit
Rotors could be caged to reduce the risk of bystander decapitation.
truthhurts2222222@reddit
I can imagine that these might eventually have some niche use for things like rescuing stranded mountaineers or something where a helicopter wouldn't fit maybe. I don't think OP mislabeling this as a "trend" doesn't mean we should immediately reject the new technology. This basically is a manned quadcopter, it might be interesting to see where the development goes.
baronmunchausen2000@reddit
Do these things have auto-rotation? What happens if an engine cuts out?
Not directly related but one of the first things you learn during firearms training is that the Safety is a mechanical switch and can fail. In short anything that can fail, will fail.
krodders@reddit
There are some obvious improvements that can address the safety questions.
The rotors need to be shrouded - we already see this on some helicopter tail rotors
A rotor at each corner isn't good enough for redundancy. Eight rotors will allow for a single failure, and even multiple if not all at one side. Obviously this adds to the cost
Computer enforced altitude, speed, and location restrictions will prevent reckless usage
Etc
stealthispost@reddit
you know what they say: regulations and red tape are the driving force behind innovation.
stupidperson810@reddit
I have built a couple of small drones. Not sure if these work similar but they have many single failure points. Not sure how they handle redundancy.
jwrsk@reddit
kill operators or bystanders
why_not_both.jpg
obvilious@reddit
Lot less chance of collisions when tracking is done by automated systems, 3d space is much less crowded than two lane highways. Plus you sound less time in the air assuming these can move at a reasonable speed. Has to start somewhere!
Loose-Cicada5473@reddit
Change is hard
antyg@reddit
The new jetski....same wankers
multiplesof3@reddit
Dead right. Excuse the pun. Humans can’t even manage electric scooters without A&E visits going through the roof. How on earth would this work?
PresentationJumpy101@reddit
Mr fuckin no fun over here.
jschall2@reddit
Jetson in particular is Oceangate levels of reckless.
andylikescandy@reddit
Will more pools result in more drownings? flying go-karts-come-racing-drones will invariably crash with the bodily harm of aircraft. Question is how frequently and with what margin of error.
Technology readyness level where any rando is allowed to take control never came for general aviation, so I doubt it will be different for the quadcopters until The autopilot is good enough that your driver's license works for GA.
waxlez2@reddit
boooring
Ratspeed@reddit
Tell that to the Wright Brothers.
usrnmz@reddit
It looks like a lot of fun though!
justmikeplz@reddit
It’s all fun and games until you fly through someone’s jet-wash.
Mountain_Evidence_93@reddit
A quick way to kill yourself
GadgetGuy1977@reddit
If these were mass-produced I'd be at the front of the line to give money.
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gw19x6@reddit
How long can they fly and what distance they are able to take?
TheDavidCall@reddit
Not sure about distance, but flight time is a little over 20 minutes.
gw19x6@reddit
Thanks
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Interesting-Fox5076@reddit
How much ?
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Don't know yet
Interesting-Fox5076@reddit
No more than 40k... I guest 25
Jrnation8988@reddit
The Decapitron 5000™️
OddBoifromspace@reddit
I mean it's just guaranteed that someone's head will be copped off.
RoosterWhiskeyBottle@reddit
Great, SxS's of aviation coming soon
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yes it is 😊
deseptacon@reddit
lol. The majority of vehicle drivers should never have been given a license as today’s DMV is all about putting more drivers on the road to increase revenue for the state/government. So many can’t drive safely and now they want to take these idiots and let them fly? Smart
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
I agree 😊
codeduck@reddit
OH good, flying decapitation machines.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yeah
extra_croutons@reddit
Hmmm hey fellow rich people, let's find a way to make our lives look even cooler to the plebes
No_Chip7198@reddit
How much?
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Don't know yet.
Small_Plum_6185@reddit
That looks like it would be really fun.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yes it is 😊
m0rbius@reddit
I would not be surprised to see these being used by cops in a big city like NYC or Bostonbin the coming years.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yeah I believe very soon will been seen in the sky.
ShoddyFortune989@reddit
oh cool, flying rocks
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Looks amazing
Iamthe0c3an2@reddit
Reminds me of those flying discs the henchmen piloted in the incredibles.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
True
dylan_1992@reddit
Pretty cool. But scary since there’s no refinances if any of those motors fail.
When a car fails, you just have to crash into some trees.
When’s plane fails, it glides.
When this fails, you come crash down.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
I guess it has a safety system
despartan_smurf@reddit
Don’t worry guys, they’re wearing helmets
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
exactly
neovb@reddit
So..helicopters that don't require any qualifications to fly helicopters?
No_Tailor_787@reddit
It most certainly will require licenses. Basically, the Federal Aviation Regulations take EVERYTHING away, then give it back in specific ways. "No pilot shall... UNLESS (specific circumstance). So, no one can operate an aircraft unless various rules are satisfied. Unless these guys are following the rules, they won't be able to sell these.
an_older_meme@reddit
You can buy an aircraft without a license or even knowing how to fly one. People do it all the time when they want to get a license and don’t want to rent.
No_Tailor_787@reddit
I'm not talking about a guy wanting a plane to learn in. I'm talking about someone manufacturing a new type of aircraft.
an_older_meme@reddit
They will need FAA airworthiness certification to fly in the United States.
Square_Ad8756@reddit
My question is how would you log the time?
No_Tailor_787@reddit
Rotory.
zmroth@reddit
been playing arc raiders and was triggered
Hawtdawgz_4@reddit
Hard pass lol
vaneeus@reddit
Leave it to reddit to seeing a cool looking flying car prototype and piss all over it for safety concerns. Every transportation invention starts out wildly unsafe. You gotta admit it's cool and you wanna fly one.
sykoKanesh@reddit
Yeah, I don't get it. This is us literally seeing the future out ahead of us. I'd bet money the military is already ALL OVER this. Getting folks in (or even out of) rough terrain they can just zip over?
Yeah, the military is definitely looking into this for small squads of specialized operators for sure.
LobsterConsultant@reddit
There no way the Jetson One will have any kind of reasonable endurance with a soldier in full battle rattle.
The company claims 20min endurance at 63mph now. That gives you a max range (without return) of 21km. Combat radius 10.5km, best-case.
Add in the 58lbs of armor and kit the average rifleman carries, and that will shave off even more range.
This thing is a jetski, not the infantry jetpack of the future.
sykoKanesh@reddit
I mean, it's that now, but with DARPA research and iteration? Come on man, surely you can look out a few years and use your imagination.
This tech isn't going away, and it's not a fad.
TheirCanadianBoi@reddit
What would the benefit of this be over a helicopter in a combat situation? Certainly wouldn't be survivability, speed, range or carrying capacity.
sykoKanesh@reddit
Yeah I was meaning in very specific or niche situations, not specifically an army of folks flying these things. Maybe it's really bad terrain with a lot of enemy fire and they can't get a copter in, but they can zip this 5 feet over the ground, set it down, a medic can hop out and either treat, or put the casualty in the vehicle and secure them, and it can autonomously (or maybe remote control) be flown back to keep them out of danger.
Or some spec ops guys with a very specific situation that might require them to use it for infil/exfil of some kind.
I'm sure the military could think of some uses for it, but I don't think it would be used as a "generalized" device by whole platoons or anything, at least not how it stands.
levicoyotes@reddit
More investing in the idea itself. Definitely limited use, but for smaller scale more special operations I'd imagine. Might not be practical yet, but they can find a way to make it practical
TheirCanadianBoi@reddit
It would have to be a single dude. That's not a special operation, that Rambo.
A helicopter and ropes can do anything this can do with no disadvantages in comparison.
Don't get me wrong, this looks like fun and would consider trying it, but for military use? I just don't see what it would be good at.
levicoyotes@reddit
Yeah, just trying to think of anything I can haha. Looks like it's been tested for search and rescue though, which is sort of connected if you draw enough dots and ignore lots of other factors. It's all a matter of how ignorant to reality you can get, then any connection is possible!
TheirCanadianBoi@reddit
If it could carry the weight of three people or two and some kind of flight assistance, I could see the Coast Guard being interested.
That's something, I guess.
closetsquirrel@reddit
I feel like if Reddit were around when the car was invented horse owners would sound exactly like this.
NDSU@reddit
I mean, cars are wildly unsafe. People are just numb to the dangers now. Generally the #1 cause of death for anyone under 45 (although fentanyl is leading lately, so it depends on your sample period)
stone_solid@reddit
there are articles you can read from around that time. This is exactly how people reacted
DeadlyMidnight@reddit
Now this is pod racing!!!
TortugaJack@reddit
The threshold in my country to lift you off the ground is 10s of thousands of euros, meaning precious few will ever get the chance. This is going in the right direction. Give it some time, it's obviously not safe yet, but hopefully will be. I would say keep an open mind.
Someone compared it to jet skis in the sky, you don't need a license to operate those. Shouldn't need one for this. Recreational is the key word.
cmonbitcoin@reddit
How much?
Knowhatimsayinn@reddit
128k
Icy-Cow-3408@reddit
This... It's real?
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yes
320sim@reddit
if even one motor or prop fails, you’re done
Mushroom5940@reddit
If two motors on the same arm fails, yes. These have two motors in each arm, meaning one can fail and it won’t come crashing down. My concern with these is a propeller cracking or breaking due to poor design or collision with a tree or something. Would it shatter and blow brains everywhere?
NutcrackerRobot@reddit
The motors and props are redundant. Battery/fuse and power electronics however might be a single point of failure which would pull this out of the sky without warning
_jbardwell_@reddit
Typically, each motor has a separate battery for redundancy. By definition it requires a dedicated ESC per motor.
Amazing-Mirror-3076@reddit
There could be a dedicated subsystem for each rotor.
MiHumainMiRobot@reddit
They are not completely redundant. A loss of two motors on the same arm and it's a crash.
Whereas a plane can survive a loss of two engines, even if it is tougher when it is located on the same side
PomeloHour257@reddit
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of having the spinning rotors at neck-level.
Stoneman4@reddit
Fly them… higher? Noise is too loud at this lvl anyway.
PomeloHour257@reddit
I'm talking about the neck level of the pilot, ya ding dong.
Stoneman4@reddit
Then make the blades higher or lower. Either way dumb complaint
PomeloHour257@reddit
Well, you see. They are where they are. If I buy one of these, I wouldn't be able to put them "higher or lower" you dumb fuck.
PresentationJumpy101@reddit
Tell Me, how close do you get to the tail rotor of a helicopter? The nacelle of a spooled up turbofan? Exactly! Put some nice cool HID LEDs on the tips and you’re good to go!
mastocles@reddit
You most likely can buy replacement blades on Temu so if breaking the OEM blades is a worry why not use replacements from the get-go?
RedDead_Renegade_@reddit
Even if an entire arm fails, a quadcopter can still remain airborne by relaxing control on the yaw axis
toybuilder@reddit
Hopefully, AI vision systems will basically soft-boundary likely static collision concerns. Bird strikes, otoh...
NutcrackerRobot@reddit
AI vision systems are rarely safety rated - hence why musk is struggling and everyone else is using more sensors than a camera...
nat480L@reddit
I have a theory that he saw something like the darpa grand challenge “great robot race” on nova and when the underdog stanford won over the super funded carnegie mellon they did it with a vision-first (though crucially NOT at all vision ONLY) software first system rather than a gimbal mounted fragile multi-distance range array of laser scanners hardware-first system and also let their vehicle make pretty much all real-time decisions besides following the line of gps waypoints rather than pre-program a speed and parameters for every inch of the course like carnegie did or as he derides any other automation company that might hand-work over an area which yes, eventually with the scale of the world and how roads change would become beyond the realistic scope of manual route work keeping up, but in the meantime it could get a lot more driving data with a focus on reactive adaptation instead of also having to do complete ground up wayfinding also, and have likely a better reliability reputation but 🤷♀️ so along with cutting the cost of sensors it just makes too much sense that this and prbly other anecdotes of “the ‘simple’ solution making the complex solution look dumb and overkill, even if lessons from both aproches advance each other faster (as both teams in the doc express), has cemented in his mind that it doesn’t just need to work, it has to work in the coolest most impressive least “evident effort” way
also carnagie mellon only lost because their main vehicle rolled over the week before and the rebuilt scanner wasnt 100 percent so it stalled eventually, and their second they goverened to go super slow to ensure a gaurenteed finish so it couldn’t catch stanford, so its not even really anything to learn about the general superiority of either approach besides maybe the over-controlling thing which has nothing to do with the tech, though for sure stanford getting there with a lot smaller budget and team was notable, the absence of other traffic/moving obstacles, road signs, incliment weather etc. means not really anything proven fundementally, even the carnegie lead said of course eventually it needs to be completely indipentent but right now today it needs small airtight steps before worrying about all that
ouch-my-side-hurts@reddit
TL:DR?
newtostew2@reddit
Cheap 90% vision based, real-time adapting drone beat expensive 90% fancy tech scanner, pre-programmed for the course drone, but we csnt know for sure which is better, because the expensive one crashed and wasn't fully fixed.
Consistent_Guava8592@reddit
Musk saw the camera part somewhere else , tries to do it in a flashy manner .
Some1-Somewhere@reddit
Amazon's vision protection let them crash a couple of delivery drones into a crane, and farms are littered with low visibility power lines.
These guys need proper 3D lidar and they're all trying to avoid paying for it.
coffeepagan@reddit
Only if there is big enough power margin for the remaining prop, and flying carbon fiber hasn't taken out anything important. I don't think that's the case, remaining prop would have to run much faster and it comes with quite significant design issues.
Helicopters too have a single point fatal failure mode in their tail rotor... but this fucker has 8 of them.
PresentationJumpy101@reddit
Eject-o seat cuzzzz
beren0073@reddit
No, you just need to install emergency deceleration and landing booster rockets. An engine fails and it cuts into emergency landing mode with rockets firing wildly. I’m sure that will make it more safe.
PresentationJumpy101@reddit
Ok ok ok; hear me out okay; MARTIN BAKER EJECTION SEATS and BAM! Auto eject at the first sign of engine failure.
gitpullorigin@reddit
You lost me at BAM
PresentationJumpy101@reddit
Fair enough.
closetsquirrel@reddit
I mean, they're like ten feet off the ground and traveling less than 30 mph inside a roll cage and wearing safety equipment. You'd be banged up but most likely nothing beyond that.
You can say the same thing about a car tire while going 70 on a highway. If one of those wheels fails there's a good chance your car is going an entirely new direction very suddenly.
Watchgeek_AC@reddit
Nope. They have built in jettison parachutes as a fail safe. You can see it demonstrated effectively on their IG @jetsonaero
MyDespatcherDyKabel@reddit
Relax, he is wearing a hamlet.
ResortMain780@reddit
As others said, nope, octocopters can lose up to 4 motors and still remain controllable. But even if *all* motors fails, these things are so severely height limited, you will probably be ok. ish. If other manufacturers remove the height restriction, Im sure they will include a ballistic rescue parachute.
Nytalith@reddit
They are octacopters so guess one engine/prop isn’t catastrophic failure like in quadcopter
JaKobeGaming@reddit
Now that's what I call pod racing!
GillyMonster18@reddit
They should try spinning, that’s a good trick.
DeathMetalSucks@reddit
Both Star Wars quotes are wrong, this is like a "you're a wizard Harry" - Gandalph on the Death Star meme ffs
GillyMonster18@reddit
So? You still got the idea. I can’t say “I’ll try spinning, that’s a good trick” because were talking about the people flying these…things.
lowrads@reddit
These can't even autorotate.
GillyMonster18@reddit
Didn’t get the reference?
singerdrummer@reddit
WhooAAaaOOooh
Sea_Warning_9140@reddit
Damn you beat me to it
CorkPrackling@reddit
He’s literally been in multiple pod races…why does he say that?
Ok_Freedom8494@reddit
I think we need to blend the future of air travel with the days of yore… by having them joust each other.
7HawksAnd@reddit
Be careful what you wish for
ONE-EYE-OPTIC@reddit
My ex wife's boss (CEO of a large real estate group) threw a huge employee and families party every year at their ranch in the San Jacinto mountains.
There were guns, a hot air balloon and hover crafts for everyone to use.
Not everyone should be allowed to use those things.
I imagine something like this is the same. The average Joe or Jill shouldn't be flying around in a quad copter.
Dave_A480@reddit
More interesting with a turbine powered generator than with batteries ....
Orlok_Tsubodai@reddit
I, for one, can’t wait for the NASCAIR races and associated epic crashes.
MangoAnt5175@reddit
Way easier cleanup for the medics, 100% guaranteed.
Source: I’m a paramedic.
EggsceIlent@reddit
Just need the mortal Kombat announcer to be there to announce "Decapitated!" And "Fatality!"
Maybe they licensed it and it's built in.
hiking_mike98@reddit
“Go fast, turn left, don’t hit any wake turbulence” doesn’t have the same ring to it though.
InnerBreath2884@reddit
pod racing like star wars
Visual_Ingenuity3258@reddit
Source?
ProsthoPlus@reddit
Now this is pod racing!
Creative_Shoe_174@reddit
Are they jetsons?
expera@reddit
I’m not sure you know what a trend is
beachbound2@reddit
Yes I’m be honest I would fly this if it can handle reasonably windy days too.
CelendilAU@reddit
Oh look, Matthew Reilly’s Hovercar Racers can finally be a thing 20 years after the book!
MrLivefromthe215@reddit
Jet moto here we come
SoySauceandMothra@reddit
Who's got money on when the first two of these deathtraps collide, their props break off, and go flying into the soft bits of the pilots and any nearby spectators?
"How'd you end up in hell, Larry?"
"Propeller blade to the face. And neck. And spine And chest... spleen... balls... probably my taint, too, but I was pretty dead by then."
GT500R_@reddit
Looks very…. EXPENSIVE
TheDavidCall@reddit
They’re not as bad as you’d think. I haven’t looked in awhile but less than $150k USD.
GT500R_@reddit
Oh sorry Mr moneybags….i stand corrected 😂
TheDavidCall@reddit
lol I don’t have that kind of money either, but I assumed they’d be like $2m or more. $150k seems quite reasonable (considering).
GT500R_@reddit
My problem is it only goes 11 miles which is barely to the grocery store (the good one) and back. 11 miles seems just too short of a range.
ketralnis@reddit
“New trend” is only said by people advertising something.
Schassis_moonshine@reddit
Now put bars around the outside so we can crash into each other like carts
Objective-Direction1@reddit
the thing with these is that they are super brittle, one touch on the prop and it's over, with something like a kart you can bump them and if you don't do anything crazy you won't get hurt
CommuterType@reddit
The future looks like it will be noisy as fuck
BookwoodFarm@reddit
The future of tactical air support.
ReviewGuy883@reddit
Wha is this??
AFecklessWeasel@reddit
The problem is there’s really only limited places you can fly these. For example, the bottom right 1/4th of entire U.S. is off limits because rednecks love using their shotguns to shoot flying things out of the sky especially when they’re electronic on account of “not wanting to be spied on by the government”.
CousinEddysMotorHome@reddit
Your generalizations of an entire quarter of the country are showing how stupid you are.
SuDragon2k3@reddit
Rednecks, I suspect, would love flying these.
AFecklessWeasel@reddit
Definitely and it’s only a matter of time before they’d be souped up and painted camo too
Rooster-Training@reddit
Matter of time being about 1 day lol. It'd be camo as fast as it's printable. Souped up might take a minute
SuDragon2k3@reddit
You'll need better batteries. Bigger motors means faster speed but less flight time. It's a balancing act.
closetsquirrel@reddit
Right? You're telling me the part of the population that owns more ATVs and Jet Skis per capita would bawk at the idea of this?
wileysegovia@reddit
Some might even balk.
closetsquirrel@reddit
They could do either. :)
AFecklessWeasel@reddit
Go invest in a sense of humor.
jwrsk@reddit
I'd be more concerned about average US body weight
__Patrick_Basedman_@reddit
I feel like if these are to be a thing, you have to be at least a Private Pilot with an understanding of airspace and all
SuDragon2k3@reddit
Probably come in under Ultralight classification.
starkruzr@reddit
almost certainly too heavy, more like Sport Pilot
farva_06@reddit
With the battery weight, these things probably exceed 254 pounds.
MotherCartographer4@reddit
As a professional in automotive safety, there's no effing way I'm doing this
Strange-Ad2470@reddit
These in nyc would be nice
dynobot7@reddit
All I hear is Air Wolf theme song playing in the background when I see this lol 😆
Low-Flamingo-9835@reddit
Opinion of Insurance Companies: YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.
DaimonHans@reddit
Aviation and trend don't belong in the same sentence, please.
Wassertopf@reddit
Why?
MolassesLate4676@reddit
✈️=💥= 🧍♂️=🪦
ph0on@reddit
These look like death in the hands of anyone who isn't required by law to certify into flying them
MolassesLate4676@reddit
The sound I wake up to on a Saturday morning when someone’s cutting the lawn, how easing.
Until I look outside and realize it’s just Johnny going to get another 12 pack
Chickenbiscuitmafia@reddit
Want
Ordinary-Rain-6897@reddit
I wonder how much crosswind they can land in. Looks like itll be rough if the propellers hit the ground and shatter. A slight wind and the pilot's entire body cross section is right there to eat those fragments up.
I was really hoping to die in bed instead-- or in some way more glorious than a 8 mph crosswind making me eat a propeller, like an idiot.
Lanky-Conclusion-952@reddit
This looks cool, but for other people, not for me.
Consistent_Reasons@reddit
Approved
Suspicious_Bend9419@reddit
Shit who needs airlines now when you have these !!
-Economist-@reddit
Advanced air mobility. It’s the future. We are very close.
Emergency_Sector1476@reddit
Flying lawnmower?
Hot-Spray-2774@reddit
I would rather get a light helicopter.
huehuehueyyy@reddit
Good way to trim your trees
Prestigious_Yak8551@reddit
Do we think that they are flying with the same double joystick type controls like the DJI drones have?
Riddickullous@reddit
Is that AI, or the thing does exist already?! (I have no doubt it's possible with current technology, just curious whether someone actually spent the money to build it... 'cause the battery technology is not there yet... I mean to justify tactical or logistical investments...)
HolyHandGrenade_92@reddit
pretty cool. now, get a sky full of 'em, the crash sites will be epic
l_rufus_californicus@reddit
All I can say is, I've seen how most of us drive.
changee_of_ways@reddit
This is going to kill soooooo many tech bros.
PhysicalLocksmith679@reddit
Cool, something new and fun for the cops.
GroucheeIndividual@reddit
Can they be made to bump one another like bumper cars? I’d prefer to bump the ish out of the other instead of blowing them out of the sky.
gooddaysir@reddit
This is going to be more dangerous than riding 3 wheelers in the 80s.
Sempervirens47@reddit
Do they seriously intend to operate human-scale rotorcraft, with small diameter high specific thrust rotors to save the mechanical complexity of a swashplate, over unprepared terrain? To fly, take off, and land, among hills and fields; from parking lots and sidewalks in the middle of the city? These are tech bros who know nothing about aviation and do not think they should have to. The FOD is going to hurt people and destroy property even if it doesn't lead to a rotor failure and crash, which it probably will.
whattherizzzz@reddit
Ok but the wright brothers were literally tech bros
Sempervirens47@reddit
I am using a narrower definition of "tech bro," I think. I mean a person whose contempt for anything established and desire to disrupt/destroy all things stable ("stagnant") requires no case-by-case justification because it must always be right, and whose pride and vainglory reach Thiel or Musk-like levels. This is a creature of this moment in time, not just meaning "any technophile or innovator."
Think about when Uber tried to re-invent the bus or two Googlers tried to reinvent the vending machine as a "Bodega in a box," and thought these were powerful and good disruptions just because they came from the radical, ambitious world of Silicon Valley. The Wrights did not do anything like that as far as I know. In fact, didn't they err on the side of skepticism towards further innovations, like using separate control surfaces instead of wing warping? That would be a faux pas to a tech bro.
sykoKanesh@reddit
Military bro.
Sempervirens47@reddit
I suppose there'd be SWO applications. Helicopter insertions usually stay a few dozen feet above terrain and let personnel fast-rope or rappel down, instead of landing, specifically because of FOD issues, though, and with this you could not. It needs to be discussed.
sykoKanesh@reddit
I was thinking more highly specialized type uses, maybe evac for a casualty, or some sort of short term insertion for some small spec ops group or something along those lines, not so much every troop using one.
Sempervirens47@reddit
To use it for CASEVAC I think one would need a landing-free method, such as bringing along either a person or a robot that can fast-rope down and prep the casualty to be lifted out in a stretcher. Spraying your wounded with high velocity FOD during evac might be strictly better than abandoning them, but I think it can be avoided.
sykoKanesh@reddit
Ah, perhaps. I was thinking an automated drone to flew to a designated spot to land and power down.
I suppose I should put those thoughts in my earlier comments more often, lol
Sempervirens47@reddit
If there are other personnel with the casualty who can help load them up, then that would work.
blueskyredmesas@reddit
Techbros come in with 0 knowledge of the well-known pitfalls and start just trying shit, then call it 'disruption' with stars in their eyes.
From the people that brought you the Cybertruck and every failed sequel to passenger rail transit...
SuDragon2k3@reddit
Wilbur and Orville Wright.
Techbros.
blueskyredmesas@reddit
They actually engineered their own designs, built them and tested them with their own nuts on the line.
A techbro equivalent in their era would be a guy in a jacket and tophat handing out flyers and taking 'investments' on a street corner. "For the low low price of five whole United States Dollars, you, too, can become a partial stakeholder in Darryn's Marvelous, Miraculous and Ungroundable Flying Machine!"
DODGE_WRENCH@reddit
They weren’t techbros, they were actual inventors who did something that had never been done before.
ClassicNetwork2141@reddit
Don't you dare.
They were pioneers of aviation. They build their own wind tunnel. They designed and tested hundreds of airfoils. They are the opposite of "tech bro", they knew more about aerodynamics then basically anyone at the time. The only people coming close were those working in Göttingen on glider flight at the time.
lycantrophee@reddit
What's more,they truly did this for the advancement of science and pioneering (someone has to,there's a reason their names are forever etched in history) instead of doing shit to convince themselves they matter.
MrNewking@reddit
Tell us you hate progress.
You mean we come into a stagnant market and bring innovation.
blueskyredmesas@reddit
'Bringing innovation' via a coked up quadcopter that does everything a helicopter does but with less parts, less efficiency and less safety margins is progress in the same way that shaking around a can of broken glass and mice just to hear it rattle is.
daddywookie@reddit
Omg you just described a guy we’re struggling with at work. He’s a tech bro without the money! Thinks he’s “disrupting” our processes in a positive way but instead is just breaking things, and then he gets grumpy and calls on us to be more open minded when we don’t back him.
noir_lord@reddit
My industry (software development) is rife with those types as you’d expect.
Fortunately I’ve been doing it long enough and good enough that I’m senior enough to in extreme cases fire them.
It is remarkable how one employee going rogue can destroy the morale and output of an entire team and past a point and with clear warnings I won’t allow that.
daddywookie@reddit
If you've been around software Dev long enough I guess you learn not to disrupt the flow unnecessarily. We're 6 months out from delivering a 5 year project. Everybody is pretty unanimous that we don't have time for his personal crusade right now. Even his executive sponsor cut the presentation off early when the room pushed back politely but firmly.
blueskyredmesas@reddit
Yeah if he's the kind of guy I think he is - or is aping the kind of people I think he is - this is intentional. "They'll never be more over the coals then they are right now, maybe I can force it."
But predictably he overplayed his hand, which is good for you and literally everybody else. All the same; this guy sounds like someone who wants any power he can get to use it for himself and his own subjective reasons rather than being interested in the health and effectiveness of the overall system.
noir_lord@reddit
Don't know your situation but that sounds like a management failure somewhere - either the team lead or his boss.
One of the things I learnt the hard way as I got promoted is that no one on a team is irreplaceable and no one on the team is more important than the team.
You can be a brilliant arsehole (or just an arsehold sometimes) but if your a net drag on the team then the door is over there - some managers are just not comfortable having the hard conversations or they "let the situation address itself" and abdicate their responsibility, I learnt not to do that but not as quickly as I'd have wished in hindsight.
I use a variant of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disagree_and_commit - when a team is discussing something together you can disagree but when the team has reached a decision that is it, that's the decision, if they need to reassess later you do that as a team - outside of that if needed I'll shut it down with "we discussed this, that was the decision of the team, this conversation is serving no purpose".
daddywookie@reddit
That is some prime advice. I'm fairly early on my management experience (if not life in general) and these are all hard lessons that you need to learn somewhere.
Kai-ni@reddit
AI is the version of this that somehow took off anyway and now everyone is trying to copy that. Groan
techn0Hippy@reddit
Door handles? Meh, so 2020. Meanwhile 4 kids burn to death in a cybertruck
GrandFrequency@reddit
Now just imagine these unmanned and fitted for combat and the military will throw money at it.
sykoKanesh@reddit
I think they would want to keep the operator in there, spec ops could use these to get over rough terrain and things like that.
ituralde_@reddit
Honestly, right now, change that from a piloting station to something that can take a stretcher and use it for CASEVAC. It's one of the biggest challenges in Ukraine today.
starfihgter@reddit
Take out the person, make it smaller & some explosive and that’s what you’ve got all over Ukraine.
The_War_In_Me@reddit
Remove the soldier, add 10 lbs of computer… wait… we have that
DillerDallas@reddit
eh
Guppy1975@reddit
The Titan of the sky!
Giffdev@reddit
Aren't ultralights not allowed over urban areas
QuickConverse730@reddit
"The FOD is going to hurt people..." Heck, these things will turn people *into* FOD...
Whatyoumaydiscover@reddit
🫣
fivespeed@reddit
first thiught
neighborlyjim@reddit
I mean, if I’m strapped in tight wearing a HANS, I’m down for this.
ohthedarside@reddit
Strap a 50 cal to it
Ralphredimix_Da_G@reddit
Cobra-la-la-la-la-la!!!
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Prickle_Dimension@reddit
All they need is mounted guns.
Many-Composer1029@reddit
Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
johnnyribcage@reddit
Looks like a great way to decapitate yourself and/or your friends.
Destro_Jones@reddit
I don't know what is real anymore.
utlayolisdi@reddit
Where can I get one?
updog_1@reddit
Is this not AI?
Altruistic_Brick1730@reddit
2 people = trend?
WaitTraditional1670@reddit
Really cool, but i’m also skeptical on its widespread use.
Never mind that many people have trouble driving on land, what do you think rates of people flying in the air would be like?
If one of these has an accident mid air, imagine it falling onto people below.
Old_EdOss@reddit
Oh shit, I didn't know I needed one.
SummitYourSister@reddit
So it has no glide and it can’t auto rotate do I have that right
psyaneyed@reddit
And I thought my neighbors' leaf blowers were annoying.
jmattspartacus@reddit
Idc about the safety aspect, that's pretty well established by everyone else. Would something like this require a pilot's license to operate?
throwawayshirt2@reddit
Too close for missiles, switching to guns.
mlongue1@reddit
WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!…
grahamsuth@reddit
So where's the battery? Considering it is not obvious, I suppose the flight time would be very short. So a bit bit of noisey fun with no real practical travel application.
Rooster-Training@reddit
20 mins at 60 mph is its current limit
grahamsuth@reddit
So then there is the safety issue of what happens when the battery is going flat if you are not over a safe landing spot. It's not as if they could glide to a landing or flare the rotor before impact as a helicopter can do. They won't be flying high enough to use a parachute.
All this means it's a fun toy, nothing more.
Original-Knowledge87@reddit
Imagine in the future when these are more implemented in society, and you get a drive by in one of these 😂
moose51789@reddit
would love this, my flight to work would be so easy!
GrabberDogBlanket@reddit
This will kill people.
Awkward-Candle4992@reddit
I mean, you could say the same about pretty much any invention. Cars? Killed people. Airplanes? Killed people. Rolling pins? Killed people.
GrabberDogBlanket@reddit
Fine. This will disproportionately kill people using them for their intended purposes.
sit_right_back@reddit
What could possibly go wrong?
LoreInaccurateOrigin@reddit
All I can think about every time I see un-shrouded rotors like these is the horror story of some kid getting killed by one of those really large sized RC helicopters.
Dapper-Comment-682@reddit
trying taking dementia-grandmas flying car ! hah ! She’ll have a backup key and be gone before you turn around
ShroominBruin@reddit
You mean we can finally play quidditch?
Hot-Science8569@reddit
Thought we were going to see 3D bumper cars.
No_cool_name@reddit
New way to die
Equal-Pause3349@reddit
How long do the batteries last?
TheDavidCall@reddit
About 20 minutes
Equal-Pause3349@reddit
Okay, that is more or less what I would have expected. Good to know. Thanks 👍
TheDavidCall@reddit
Intro price was $128k, I think that’s going up to $148k if I read correctly. You can find all the info you want on their website. These things are cool as hell….
photoengineer@reddit
Dangerous: yes. Do I want one anyways?: yes.
NumbLikeMe@reddit
I second that poor judgement.
Hillsy85@reddit
"And it's Johnson, Johnson with the Quaffle, what a player that girl is, I've been saying it for years but she still won't go out with me.”
Particular-Car-2398@reddit
One engine fails it will scramble your brains
22cibeII@reddit
Bunch of fuggin Spießer itt
know_limits@reddit
Weird that the blades aren’t covered. In old movies you can see tabletop fans that have no covers, just spinning blades. Seems we’ve already figured out how to make that safer.
__wampa__stompa@reddit
I want one. How do I get one?
LizzyGreene1933@reddit
No thank you, just no!
sighbuckets@reddit
Send them to Ukraine. With guns
invisableilustionist@reddit
Oh fuck there not for civilian use ? Are they? There is too many people that should not have these .
Ballistasana@reddit
Toxic junk in 5 years and no place to dump it.
Send_the_clowns@reddit
How do I get or fly one??
soraksan123@reddit
Can't wait until I can afford one of those, looks like a blast-
InternationalWish210@reddit
Take my money and probably some health lol
Acrobatic-Ad7870@reddit
EZ pass hack
jdbcn@reddit
Those blades should be protected
gitpullorigin@reddit
Are they going extinct or something? I was not aware, what a cruel world
mastocles@reddit
The reason is shrouded
IWasSayingBoourner@reddit
I think this every time I see one. First time one shatters, it's going right into that unprotected cockpit
RockMedic277@reddit
This is so cool! Oh shit, I hit a leaf... now I'm dead. 😵
If I'm being honest, I still want one...
fi9aro@reddit
I would be lying if I said I didn’t want to try this. Looks a bit sketchy though. This is longer a drone once you put a human inside of it.
DeathPrime@reddit
Probably the most fun 7 minutes they’ve had before the 4 hr wait to do it again for 7 more minutes
mikowave@reddit
Buy yours today, prices go up on Monday.
https://jetson.com
Romando1@reddit
128k. Wow
Al89nut@reddit
What's the duration?
TheDavidCall@reddit
They go for about 20 minutes according to their website.
wileysegovia@reddit
Seventeen minutes
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Dunno yet, We have to see battery capacity
Ashnyel@reddit
Now all we need is someone who is good at post production to edit in sci fi lasers and space fighter engine sounds…
wileysegovia@reddit
These are clearly octocopters. If one motor fails, it becomes a heptacopter.
Jim-be@reddit
If I was rich I’ll be screaming “bitch take my money!!!”
jtyme10@reddit
Coming soon to the LAPD
Rhizobactin@reddit
Oh look, FPV drone racing, but lets make it 20,000 x more expensive and dangerous!
So glad the hobby ruined so a bunch of yuppies fly through the air at 15 mph
🤦♂️
PaleCommission150@reddit
look like you could trim trees with those rotors in no time flat.
TakenIsUsernameThis@reddit
Medivac.
Deadpool2015@reddit
Most people can’t manage to drive cars. We really don’t need people flying these things around too. 🤣
LateralThinkerer@reddit
I'm sure that there are variants with light automatic weapons already under development.
Which-Barnacle-2740@reddit
where can I buy one?
weskeryellsCHRISSS@reddit
Worldwide, "road traffic injuries are the leading cause of death for children and young adults aged 5–29 years." and kill 1.19 million people each year, mostly in low and middle-income nations, according to the World Health Organization. Additionally, most of the deaths in developing countries are pedestrians, passengers, and cyclists-- people are hit by cars, because of inadequate infrastructure, and are far more likely to die, because of inadequate access to healthcare.
In other words, we ought to think about how things mostly get safer in countries that can afford the luxury of regulations, to say nothing of healthcare. Overall it's going to be young people in poorer countries who are at the greatest risk of death because of vehicles that we designed. How safe is the vehicle in completely unideal conditions?
We can't control how everything is used, but maybe it's something we should think about more than we do. We all know that the phrase "please use responsibly" is pure fantasy in any context. This doesn't necessarily even apply to the vehicle in question-- it's mostly to say there are reasons beyond even the obvious that people are right to immediately be raising the issue of safety concerns. How fun/cool something is isn't particularly interesting, at least not to me-- we are the most entertained people in history, it is impossible for us to do all the things. There is no shortage of fun (except in my comment history).
mnztr1@reddit
wayyyyy too noisy for widespread use.
soysssauce@reddit
Limited by battery just like any electric stuff
tinyfred@reddit
Now THIS is pod racing.
Hungry-Organization5@reddit
I can just imagine the insurance rates for one of these things in NY... Lol
DaCrizi@reddit
I'm too poor for this.
Late_Chance_8080@reddit
Oh yes, this will absolutely improve life for the average person and not be a new way to ruin any resemblance of peace and quiet while out enjoying the natural world.
fronchfrays@reddit
For anyone who works at an airport, you should be allowed to take these into work and land there
phoneacct696969@reddit
Batter life - 7 minutes.
SRM_Thornfoot@reddit
You know what something like that attracts? Kids and dogs. They will run up to these things in excitement to get a closer look. Those open propellers just make me cringe at the danger of what is bound to happen.
sierra120@reddit
Give it a front canon and it’s like the Wasp from Halo.
PLS-Surveyor-US@reddit
License plate: GJETSON
roadtrip-ne@reddit
New Calvary for Infrantry.
Fearless_Resolve_738@reddit
Add airbags for the upcoming crashes
No_Fishing_6931@reddit
Not sure WHAT to call this….but “aviation” doesn’t quite fit. just sayin….
Hyperion04_@reddit
New aviation trends, new aviation accidents.
JournalistEvery1669@reddit
Can anyone buy those? If so, where and how much?
keetyymeow@reddit
As long as they have pilot license idc
pb_in_sf@reddit
Next thing we’ll see them at scenic spots destroying the peace and quiet 😫
Habsin7@reddit
You just know Bond's next Aston Martin from Q is going to have one these pop out at the push of a button
DiscoShaman@reddit
wow the future has arrived!
Rooster-Training@reddit
My 45 min to 1 hour commute would be 10 minutes if I could fly straight from my home to work. Even at only 60 mph
No-Change-1606@reddit
I think I'll stick to my motorcycle as a form of my demise, thanks
ReturnOfTheSaint14@reddit
I watched an interview with one of the creators of this thing today on an italian program,the company is based in Arezzo
Basically it's a startup with few employees (just like any startup),the vehicle is fully electric and has an autonomy of 20-30 minutes,so the guy explicitly said it is for fun only. I understood that they're actively working with Aviation Clubs and with ENAV (basically the Italian FAA) to make it legal.
So yeah as of today this thing is basically for rich (and probably dumb)people,and as long as it is not certified the orders are pretty much useless
joeyjoejums@reddit
I wanna live next door to that.😆
pukeblood213@reddit
Billionaire behavior
closetsquirrel@reddit
My man, if the worst billionaires did was make wild inventions this place would actually be a better place. It's all the other shit billionaires do that's the problem.
pukeblood213@reddit
No shit
sykoKanesh@reddit
Seems like your personal weight would be the biggest factor here, might have to sandbag some.
Also bro came in hot on that first curve/shot, lol
gromm93@reddit
This isn't aviation.
This is an investor scam.
Rooster-Training@reddit
They have redundant motors on each arm. The frame is a roll cage similar to what's in an f1 or indy car (can handle crashes much faster than this) and it has an emergency parachute that is explosive deployed if you are falling from high up.
Biggest danger is probably a bird strike or something causing a rotor to fly off and possibly hit you. Once they flesh these things out they will probably be very safe, especially if computer limits are put in place to not let the driver do stupid shit.
ULT1MATECaM@reddit
I feel like this isn’t a good idea
n0neOfConsequence@reddit
DJI could probably release one for $10k next year.
Faceless_Arya@reddit
Looks Like straight outta halo
scubaorbit@reddit
Now I know what I want for Christmas!
iParkooo@reddit
Tried one in flight simulator and they were fun .. I would never be able to afford one irl though.
SkunkMonkey@reddit
People can barely drive properly in two dimensions and you want to add a third?
Flying cars is a bad idea.
RoodysRun@reddit
Built to crash
ihadagoodone@reddit
flying cars
Advanced_Stretch1680@reddit
I feel like these should never be flown over people
Viper01MHC@reddit
What are these called?
TheDavidCall@reddit
It’s called the Jetson One.
Viper01MHC@reddit
Right on. That’s sweet - but also $128k!!! Holy shit!
TheDavidCall@reddit
I mean, I don’t have $128k sitting around (and if I did, I still wouldn’t because I would have ordered this). But I first saw it and assumed like $2m.
F-Cloud@reddit
Meh. Bring back the Williams X-Jet instead.
zwifter11@reddit
Looks like a lot to go wrong, with no redundancy.
From my experience of flying a DJI drone, it only needs one rotor to be slightly slower and it’ll flip out of control (asymmetric thrust).
Standard_Switch_9154@reddit
I have to lose some weight.
LordDarthAngst@reddit
It’s not The Jetsons but I’ll take it.
TheDavidCall@reddit
lol! It’s literally built by Jetson.
PlentyTight9650@reddit
Anyone knows if this being sold as retail? Or privately built and being tested?
TheDavidCall@reddit
Jetson makes them.
CardboardTick@reddit
Where do I buy one? This is fantastic!
TheDavidCall@reddit
Jetson.com
coocoomberz@reddit
Source on this? Your post and caption makes this seem like AI-generated content I'm afraid
TheDavidCall@reddit
It’s real. Jetson makes it.
NxPat@reddit
Run Time: 8 minutes
TheDavidCall@reddit
20 minutes, but that’s not that different lol
means7701@reddit
5 min at full throttle
pocketMagician@reddit
I dont really trust flying anything without actual control surfaces.
phatRV@reddit
What is the flight time for full charge of battery?
TheDavidCall@reddit
About 20+ minutes
GoatThick1651@reddit
where can I find one??
TheDavidCall@reddit
It’s called the Jetson One.
goba101@reddit
Someone has probably put guns on them already
dronesitter@reddit
Where would one buy something like that >_>
TheDavidCall@reddit
It’s called the Jetson One. 20+ minutes of flight time, less than $150k USD. I’m not saying I have that, but if I did, I would buy this :)
TheGonadWarrior@reddit
Can't wait to accidentally cut someone's head off while going to work
Dirty_Harry44@reddit
Waiting for the first blender accident vid.
Hour-Opportunity5147@reddit
That’s one of those cool concepts that likely never sees mass acceptance but it would be a massive shift if we got around in that
DwightsNursery@reddit
If one of the motors failed, would it just fall out of the sky?
NilsTillander@reddit
It's basically a DJI Agra T100 with a seat, right?
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yup I guess its upgraded model
NilsTillander@reddit
Aren't those Xpeng branded though?
TheEmperorForget@reddit
How much?
Elios000@reddit
mid 5 digits
Elios000@reddit
look more toys for millionaires... no payload no range and for same cost you could build a RV-10
superradguy@reddit
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yeah
Badass_veer@reddit
Why do i leep hearing star wars bgm in my mind?
thesnebby@reddit
I work with quads and never in my life would I want to step on one. But piloting a race quad would be so much fun.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Why you think? Since you are expert
rinkydinkis@reddit
That looks fun af
Drd2@reddit
I have never wanted a box of Roman Candles so bad.
Iamstu@reddit
Damn, that looks like fun.
Cheap-Peach5127@reddit
You can’t do full glide down in those nor can you do autorotation.
United-End761@reddit
It's called powered lift. And yes those are the two major downsides
RedDead_Renegade_@reddit
Conceivably it can autorotate with slightly bigger rotors that are variable pitch
obvilious@reddit
With eight independent rotors and motors, what are the odds?
Claidheamh@reddit
Does it have redundant battery systems?
obvilious@reddit
I don’t know,, difficult to see it close
Killfalcon@reddit
How many need to fail before it's unstable, though?
thecockmeister@reddit
Just put a giant airbag on the bottom, and problem solved
tartanthing@reddit
Are there mounting points for machine guns?
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Well, definetily they will do so soon
Quackmoor1@reddit
Beheaded you say?
Spazrelaz@reddit
This reminds me of those choppers they were using in the Avatar movies.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yeah dreams come true
sarky-litso@reddit
Why is it a trend?
squishybewbz@reddit
This that new DJi
Badass_veer@reddit
Could have added stars wars bgm n it would br perfection
Human_Pangolin94@reddit
Let's hope those pesky Ewoks don't tie ropes between the trees.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
I don't think so, it does have sensors and safety system
amicablegradient@reddit
It's just a micro-lite that has lower range and worse redundancy.
templeofsyrinx1@reddit
Electrics?
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yup
ocrohnahan@reddit
And my 249gram drone is too dangerous to fly around people. Yup, completely logical.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yeah
Prolapsed_Marquesita@reddit
Dumb ass shit food processor tech... ancient tech, boring, overpriced.
Only good for trimming tall hedges and trees!
This shit and electric cars are 100 year old tech, just with a bunch of shiny plastic.
MoistDealer2225@reddit
They look fun as hell. They need to find a cool canyon or river valley course and let people race through it.
tartanthing@reddit
Or a Death Star.
ElonMax303@reddit
Can I send it in Acro?
savagebongo@reddit
I bet those glide really well when a bird or other object invariably clips a prop blade. Oh wait no, you are instantly dead.
PriusesAreGay@reddit
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it’s designed to be semi-redundant with enough extra power in each pod to handle losing a rotor. Completely normal with quality drones so I can’t imagine it being muc different
bonfuto@reddit
There are versions with 12(?) motors that might be a little more robust to bird strikes. But I somehow doubt that people are going to inspect their props closely enough.
Hogavii@reddit
Aaaand you’re dead
BraveBG@reddit
Aaandd you're boring
Hogavii@reddit
😓
One-Hyena-341@reddit
Could you auto rotate one of those if you lose a motor?
SpecialCocker@reddit
Not without variable pitch
TheFredCain@reddit
A four engined aircraft where the failure of any 1 is unrecoverable. No thanks
StanCorr@reddit
It has 8 and can cope with one motor/prop failing on any/all arms without crashing.
closetsquirrel@reddit
I love the people making wild assumptions over a technology they have no real knowledge about solely on gut instinct.
TheFredCain@reddit
FYI, I didn't see that there were redundant rotors AND therefore, made a mistake while I was expressing an opinion, not codifying the laws of physics. Sorry to have harmed your delicate sensibilities, but very happy I could be the first to bring a solitary shred of "love" into your life. You're welcome!
SinisterKnyght@reddit
Anyone else playing Arc Raiders?
jvtech@reddit
The plug & play of aviation.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yep exactly
iknowrebecca@reddit
It’s giving…stupid ways to ☠️
richard_stank@reddit
Aaaaand… we have flying cars.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yeah finally 😊
lollyshoppy@reddit
Wall-E
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Its amazing
scubadrunk@reddit
Watch this get banned and regulated real soon.
Governments won't allow stupid people to fly and fall out of the sky on to sensible people's heads.
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
I agree, once incidents happens by stupid ppl they will ban it immediately
jimpski@reddit
That looks like it will get stuck in a tree or on a roof... /s
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
It has smart system to avoid incidents
SillyCubensis@reddit
OK, that looks fun as hell. Put folding arms like the Ag quads have and a BRS chute and you have a pretty practical and safe flying car that fits in a parking space
PrettyPromenade@reddit
Looks dangerous
MaintenanceBorn6881@reddit
Cmon man
M-Bernard-LLB@reddit
"Ride of the Valkyries" will never be the same.
woolymammoth256@reddit
In breaking news. " Men have found a new expensive way to kill themselves!"
MutantSheep101@reddit
You think the noise of the leaf blower next door is annoying? Just wait
ShawnThePhantom@reddit
This is ridiculous. What if someone ends up in those blades?
CantFightCrazy@reddit
make them fight!
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
They might happens in the future 😊
zzptichka@reddit
There is no trend. It's DOA.
crashdout@reddit
Can it fly on 2 or 3 rotors? Otherwise we’ve got a Tesla-level people killer.
Rafxtt@reddit
With 8 rotors it can fly regularly if 1 fails or even if 2 rotors fails, depending of the rotors that fails.
A failure of 3 rotors means landing - safely. With luck - depending of the rotors failing - can even land reasonable safe with the failure of 4 rotors.
5 rotors failure i.e. suddenly flying on 3 rotors means dead.
All depends in who makes these things. If it was Tesla, I'd run away really far away if I ever saw one.
Justinaug29@reddit
Now imagine your average civilian having access to this 😅
SharpEdgeSoda@reddit
Like the Jet Ski, seems like we'll see a lot of these as luxury toys and I'm in.
I do wonder what they can do for safety. There's not a lot of options there as you can tell weight is precious.
I would almost want an Airbag system around the whole frame. We are already Tech-Bro deep, so try it like that one "No helmet-airbag helmet."
Better then nothing at least.
Battlemanager@reddit
Finally the flying cars my dad promised 5 yr old me back in 1980 that I'd be driving when I was grown up.
Liamnacuac@reddit
I'll have to be honest. I'm a senior and I was saddened when I didn't see many people flying RC reproductions of historic or acrobatic planes and helicopters at the local RC airport, just a lot of drones. I know the traditional won't dissappear, but I loved seeing a Mustang or Cessna or something zipping about.
gillgrissom@reddit
looks fun not sure id plonk $128k down on one though, which is going up to $148k shortly.
69KennyPowers69@reddit
It’s not a trend. We are all poor
verb8um@reddit
Airwolf Lite…Thursdays on CBS
Xenogunter@reddit
These should be featured in the next James Bond film!
KarmaCommando_@reddit
If you want personal flight at a much cheaper, dramatically safer level, just get a paramotor. As far as I can see there's no advantage to these aside from speed.
copingcabana@reddit
One wrong move and it's a fool processor.
Half_Cent@reddit
I'm against billionaires but I would totally buy 10 of those with extra batteries before I became a philanthropist.
Liamnacuac@reddit
A couple of years ago, I prognosticated Amazon would have an ambulance service using a virtual doctor and drones to get patients to hospitals.
RadioWavesHello@reddit
I thought cars were loud
holzmann_dc@reddit
Call me when they are as fast as a Tesla Model S Plaid, Ferrari F80, etc. Probably next year...
Mindless_Bat_2588@reddit
Wow that's awesome
Droidy934@reddit
Guy behind "oh shit he stopped" ......face full of blades.
Galf2@reddit
These things have 2 minutes of flight time... It was cool until I read that. I wasn't expecting a lot more, but like, 50 minutes. 20 you can just use it to get across your private golf course lol
LiviNG4them@reddit
What are the purpose of the helmets?
MeccIt@reddit
To make identification from dental records easier.
blastcat4@reddit
These will be so much fun... for about 10 minutes and then you have recharge.
featheredass@reddit
If we weren’t wasting brain power and resources on evil bullshit we’d all be in these, they’d be self-driving, and incapable of colliding with anything that wasn’t shot at it. The days of traffic jams would be over and everybody would be happier.
StandardDeluxe3000@reddit
wonder how long it takes until it takes its first death toll.
nace71@reddit
Flying lawn darts.
masteroffdesaster@reddit
this is amazing. I want one
strolpol@reddit
I’m not really sure if there’s any use case for these. They’re too small for air evac or police work, they’re too expensive and bulky to replace smaller delivery drones.
alexandrosidi@reddit
We finally have flying cars
shit_ass_mcfucknuts@reddit
I want one of those right now!
digno2@reddit
a young german inventor had the Badewannendrohne bathtub drone for seven years now and went to fly to his local bakery https://youtu.be/EQK9m_OBVgY?t=27
cheeze_skittles@reddit
I am willing to risk my life on this.
notalk82@reddit
Can someone more knowledgeable than me tell me what advantage they get by not semi enclosing the blades? Wouldn't some kind of shroud at least give you a fighting chance against catastraphic failure if you accidentally got too close to some tree's/bird strikes?
aeroplane1979@reddit
I've flown quite a few RC quadcopters and they're astonishingly stable. But, when something does go wrong, it's catastrophic. While I'm sure that the safeguards on a manned quad would be far better than those of a hobbyist drone, the hard truth is that at the end of the day you can only fight physics and probabilities so much. Given enough altitude and speed, a fixed wing aircraft can still be safely landed in the event of engine loss. If you lose propulsion on even a single arm on a quad, you're probably fucked. And it probably won't just fall, it'll roll all the way down. Even if you kept your ceiling at 50'-100' that would still be an awful way to go.
Having said all that, this still looks like a fuckin blast!
Whatever_Lurker@reddit
Now it’s waiting for a new Lindbergh.
soulless_ape@reddit
this needs some cage around the blades, or around the blades area and frame like bumper cars otherwise its chaos waiting to happen.
Master_Chen@reddit
I love how they’re flying just high enough where if something goes wrong they break their back or worse.
Not high enough for the on board parachute to save them.
Watchgeek_AC@reddit
As OP hasn’t bothered to credit them. These are JetsonAero on IG. Pretty cool stuff to be honest. Built in parachutes that deploy if the rotors stop
efxeditor@reddit
I don't think they're flying high enough for an emergency parachute to be effective.
Watchgeek_AC@reddit
It’s there for when they do go high enough
means7701@reddit
Looks at drone with a GI Joe sitting on it
💡 💥
If I make it bigger... I CAN FIT IN IT!
What? What's the FAA? Pssssh!
SlippinYimmyMcGill@reddit
It's like cars, except the car in front of you creates giant potholes you can't see.
Tiny-Spray-1820@reddit
Wonder how stable they are against strong winds
MeBollasDellero@reddit
Take my money!!
PlayerOfGamez@reddit
Looks very deadly. Unlike airplanes and helicopters, there's no recovery from engine failure.
dollarbill1247@reddit
Next year's hottest ride at the carnival "Bumper Drones"!
Digital_1337@reddit
Now this looks freaking cool !!
trashbort@reddit
Hearing is over-rated
AliceLunar@reddit
Why doesn't it have blade protectors though, I feel like that would massively increase the safety of this.
ReadDwarf@reddit
Me on my hoverbike in TotK
Bosswashington@reddit
You think motorcycle crashes are bad? Wait until high speed, in conjunction with gravity, and toss in some carbon fiber scimitars moving at near the speed of sound. Usually the motorcyclist is the only one injured or killed. If you got a airborne high-speed landscaping lawnmower plummeting towards your nephew’s Bar mitzvah from 870 ft, being flown by some kid that believes he is the embodiment of the Fast and Furious and Maverick movies, all spun up on crank, I think you’d be shitting you pants, right before you got all Ginsu-ed up.
Eltex@reddit
But did your kid really need that Bar Mitzvah? Nah, not really. But that kid wanted to fly this, and you wouldn’t let him. And now he will be out there in the wild, all alone, doing who knows what just to get a quick flight.
ituralde_@reddit
Horrifying.
Every billionaire should get one immediately.
Icy-Split-891@reddit
That looks like fun
Viechiru@reddit
That thing is fast... Also license needed?
ProteusRift@reddit
If these become wide spread, the accidents are going to be gnarly, and not in the good way.
sholopinho@reddit
I don’t care if it’s AI or not. I want that
Callero_S@reddit
Video might or might not be fake, but the toy is real. https://jetson.com/jetson-one
5k_Baygulls@reddit
If you order today, it won’t arrive until 2028. Guess I’ll have to order the knockoff brand
LibelleFairy@reddit
Fantastic! Now there's jet skis for the air! Perfect for absolute cunts who think normal jet skis are far too quiet and respectful of wildlife, and of fellow human beings.
Scr33ble@reddit
What could possibly go wrong
Fist_of_Buzz_Aldrin@reddit
I hope they come with advanced collision avoidance and liability insurance.
cash8888@reddit
About freaking time
ProgressExcellent609@reddit
Think of all the asphalt we could get rid of if we use these things
IdahoDuncan@reddit
What could go wrong?
Fair-Working4401@reddit
Please enclose the propeller...
FrostyFix6752@reddit
This Is the future
AdOverall3944@reddit
Humans in quad drones😇
stevekaw@reddit
How will we regulate these things? Pretty soon these craft will kill as many folks as motorcycles and ATVs!
Arsch_mit_Ohren@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE-wLr2RSTA
lapululapapaya@reddit
Formula Sky?? Less goo
Direct-Quiet-5817@reddit
We're getting closer to flying cars
jugo5@reddit
Give me a parachute and I am in!
CassiCatto@reddit
FINALLY we get our flying cars!!! 😻
Fresh_man82@reddit (OP)
Yeah 😊
Next-Newspaper-8181@reddit
This looks beyond dangerous. And fun. Fun danger
Cambren1@reddit
Single point of failure
a_pulupulu@reddit
remind me of castle in the sky
W1neD1ver@reddit
Just a fender bender officer. Didn't know he'd fall 150 feet.
Tater_Mater@reddit
I dig it. However I don’t dig it for the people that can’t drive cars
kahnindustries@reddit
Fail safe design, these will easily replace fixed wing aircraft
Absolutely nothing can go wrong
….what if it loses power you say? Well it will nose dive into the ground like a rock from heaven. Perfectly safe
Ataneruo@reddit
Also looks like a new decapitation device trend.
jerrysimmons2@reddit
I’ll take a Piper Cub over this any day.
bassanaut@reddit
Everyone up in the comments with 50 different ways to say this isnt safe like they are delivering some profound news that isn’t immediately obvious
vronstance@reddit
TIHI
BlessedBeThyNutsack@reddit
Holy shit that looks fun!
Whole-Debate-9547@reddit
For those two guys
RRumpleTeazzer@reddit
these look expensive, dangerous and too much fun.
take my money
chaitalyy@reddit
The safety concerns are huge, especially with these operating in populated areas. It really feels like these are being developed by people who skipped the 'aviation' part and went straight to 'trend'.
Mercurion77@reddit
Remember the videogame Wipeout? We’re nearly there lol
ScarecrowOH58@reddit
I'm guessing the horror will kick off with this kid:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vKDpopHb5sk
The instability is glaring. The kid thinks he's invincible, too.
I'm really interested in personal electric flight, but it's obvious some ugly things are just waiting to happen.
Low_Bodybuilder7177@reddit
Money buys happiness
crownvic64@reddit
You’d think a bird strike would take these out pretty efficiently.
hatlad43@reddit
I just hope that because it looks & probably operates like drones, it has a collision alert & avoidance system.
LewEnenra@reddit
Taking the worst elements of current flying craft and infusing them together to make something even worse?
What's the worse that can happen
AppointmentHonest952@reddit
In Germany, we use our bathtub:
youtube.com/watch?v=EQK9m_OBVgY
woodalchi96@reddit
Now bring them to dessert and we can have a race!!
ConsequenceBusy8726@reddit
Those look badass and fun af!
LedZeppelinBalloon@reddit
100%. all these haters. this looks sick. i want one
insidiousfruit@reddit
It's comment sections like these that make me think the government shutdown is a good thing. How long before all the babies demand regulations. We will never get flying cars for increased mobility if we can't accept a few deaths.
Mysterious_Silver_27@reddit
”Those magnificent man in their flying machine” theme song starts playing
Mysterious_Silver_27@reddit
What you’re seeing is Advanced Warfare.jpg
finepies@reddit
Just need to make the more stealthy “quieter”
siRcatcha@reddit
I was waiting for the next release so many years!
jake_azazzel@reddit
Everytime I see a personal vehicle with propellers within an arm's reach, I'm reminded of this
FobbitOutsideTheWire@reddit
Flight time 20 minutes. Womp womp.
Party-Operation-393@reddit
Very cool. Question, what happens when one of the motors stops spinning? Can it compensate and keep it level?
Xinra68@reddit
How’s the trunk space on one of these if I went to the store to get a 12 pack and some scratchers?
Severe-Entrance-4093@reddit
Abit primitive tech, they used to do this with free energy from the ether and silent motors back in the days
DifferentSquirrel551@reddit
A guillotine that rich people willingly climb into? I'll invest.
MJP87@reddit
I'm not going to lie. These look fun, and dangerous AF. -Im a sports bike guy
But can these companies please turn their attention to saving real GA and making that welcoming and affordable.
ICON failed miserably, and all the new 600kg are pipe dreams for most common people.
I'm in the UK. These look too heavy to make it into the SSDR category. But given how the CAA views drones over 225g, I cant see these ever being a reality over here
matroosoft@reddit
Why no prop guards?
av8geek@reddit
Because they haven't been sued yet.
Mediocre_Gur9159@reddit
I need my trees trimmed.
Real_Sample1@reddit
Lets chop some heads!
Neat_Bug6646@reddit
In the city? hello no.
chewing_chewbacca69@reddit
Imagine drunk driving this thing XD
Afterturder@reddit
Fun new ways to die
Few_Eye6528@reddit
This is the coolest thing i saw all day
NaCl3251@reddit
Great! so it won’t be long until we have all manner of lowlife using illegal but readily available electrically powered transport to commit crimes and deliver junk food… oh wait…
BURNINGMOON_@reddit
Build name/build info?
Callero_S@reddit
https://jetson.com/jetson-one
BURNINGMOON_@reddit
Nice🙏ty
FiveFingerDisco@reddit
Cool - how much ~~explosives~~could a criminally reckless person deliver this way?
Cute_Committee6151@reddit
Never going to be used for mass transport. Way to noisy to have these land constantly in residential areas
Used-Height-2670@reddit
Where can I get one?
Callero_S@reddit
https://jetson.com/jetson-one
Nytalith@reddit
In Poland similar vehicle was tested by mountain rescue service. For now it’s not put in use but according to article it has some advantages. Translated article from regional tv: https://krakow-tvp-pl.translate.goog/87547526/jetson-one-testowany-przez-gopr-nowa-technologia-w-ratownictwie-gorskim?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=pl&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Callero_S@reddit
Same one I think? Jetson One
Manifestgtr@reddit
Well then…this looks bubonically dangerous
Callero_S@reddit
Is it really a trend? It’s new for sure
nc0@reddit
Hey I flew that thing in MSFS 2024!
Lost_Marionberry9426@reddit
-Mom, can we have Ben Quadinaros ?
Ben Quadinaros at home :
MightyCoffeeMaker@reddit
Can’t wait to walk in the woods and being attacked by that nightmare.
Malachy1971@reddit
Just let natural selection do it's job.
fazzah@reddit
As a scifi geek I would love to see them in cities. But seeing how many idiots we have (ab)using much simpler methods of transportation I'm kinda scared.
kkania@reddit
Great now we’ll have rich people flying loudly over every peaceful piece of nature
TheJohn_Doe69@reddit
Just get a drone and VR, or a helicopter. Those are way safer and VR is cheaper, and a helicopter flies higher and is faster
The_wolf2014@reddit
Those steel cages don't look too safe, especially when someone else gets too close and a propellor comes in the side and takes half your head off.
just_a_curious_fella@reddit
Highly unsafe
JuneauWho@reddit
as a drone pilot, no thanks.
BlackV@reddit
What new about this shallowly disguised ad?
USA_A-OK@reddit
Trend?
pternstrom@reddit
This is Jetson. This company was founded in my garage in Tuscany. I was the first CEO and still own about 25 percent of the stock.
Outrageous_Act_5802@reddit
Teenagers already causing havoc on modified e-bikes. Can’t wait for them to get access to these
admin557@reddit
Coming soon to a Polaris dealer near you?
SimilarPoetry1573@reddit
I'm a pilot, and the only thing that would make me nervous about flying this is a couple of people trying to have "fun" with them in uncontrolled airspace! There are protocols to be observed even in uncontrolled airspace, so some A-Hole playing dipsy-do just because he has something that will do it, would definitely be a huge drawback!
Mindless-Lack3165@reddit
We ought to send em all to Russia after we make em three seaters! Ukrainians on the front couldn't get enough! Slava Ukraine 😵😵😵😆🤣
Harha@reddit
Helicopters make sense because you can do autorotation on engine failure. This does not...
starfihgter@reddit
Quads can limp on 3 motors, but I have to agree that a helicopter makes sense in pretty much all cases over this.
obvilious@reddit
8 rotors/motors
SuDragon2k3@reddit
Can the Osprey autorotate? Glide?
starfihgter@reddit
Pretty sure it can glide. iirc it's a glide ratio of 4-5? Pretty bad, but better than nothing. Don't think it would be able to autorotate meaningfully.
healeyd@reddit
They need some inward guards on the blades at the very least, if possible.
WazirOfFunkmenistan@reddit
Attach guns.
Dubaishire@reddit
Won't be long
Axeman-Dan-1977@reddit
Spinning blades at head height sure look interesting!
PsychologicalRing160@reddit
Looks very dangerous.
Aggressive_Ad_7736@reddit
Did anyone else have the airwolf theme tune stuck in their head watching this
mokus123@reddit
Just great!
boogertee@reddit
They could easily evolve to fill the same role as an R22 on farms and the like, especially if you don't need a license to fly them.
an_older_meme@reddit
If they weigh over 254 pounds you would need a license.
dormammucat@reddit
This would realise my dream of flying!
Sharke6@reddit
Private use on private land, okay. It's obvious that using them is risky to the user & presumably the manufacturers caveat that. Could imagine them being very useful to e.g. farmers, but no way you could use them in "public airspace".
ghjm@reddit
Landowners don't own the airspace above their land. As soon as you take off, you're in the NAS.
Hot-Advantage-3876@reddit
Imagine when they start using these in India and Southeast Asia
BraidRuner@reddit
Rotary wing aircraft like this would be great for a point to point commute in warm weather. Any rain or cool weather would make using it a pain
jamescodesthings@reddit
powerloop it
petwedge@reddit
Instead of having car ctashes in front of your house they crash ON YOUR HOUSE
Complete-Car7191@reddit
Take my money!
echicdesign@reddit
JetSkis of the air.
ScryptSnake@reddit
For a small fee of 130k, it can be yours
BrewCityChaserV2@reddit
Just another venture capitalist dream. Fun in theory. Not in reality.
Veefy@reddit
Forces of Nod in Command and Conquer universe would be down to use these. Maybe where you have 1 of these as command unit with say disposable drone squadron attached.
Could make a fun James Bond toy for a sequence fighting against low tech adversaries.
Zealousideal_Dirt682@reddit
Reminds me of the self-powered South Park Unibike thing... Y'all know which one...
TheManWhoClicks@reddit
I still hope that some day everyone in LA gets 2 of these for free 🍿
ElSquibbonator@reddit
People can barely be trusted in motorcycles on the ground, and now we want to make them fly?
Extension-Rabbit3654@reddit
Oh look, the Decapitator 3000
Remarkable_Yak_8564@reddit
Aerial fucking bumper karts
Ratspeed@reddit
"Why don't we have flying cars??" Um.
top_of_the_scrote@reddit
I don't like how you sit in these, I want to be in a crotch-rocket style, the jet thing that's new, looks like you're hugging a motorcycle gas tank, that is the position but man that thing is ugly as hell
No_Olive_3310@reddit
Why do I feel like these would belong to an evil mastermind in the Incredibles or something https://youtu.be/t5v2qBBD-gE?feature=shared
LightSwarm@reddit
“I want something that’s more dangerous than an ATV and more expensive.”
shewel_item@reddit
looks further along in progress than automated truck driving tbh
RaifuFactionMKII@reddit
Nice, regulations are for idiots
B1BLancer6225@reddit
Naaaa that doesn't look like a disaster looking for a place to happen at all.
oldravinggamer@reddit
Sign me up
oktsi@reddit
Trusting small flying objects to unqualified hands (just like drones a few years back) would not cause any problems at all /S
BalzacTheGreat@reddit
Seems bad that the pilot can barely stick their hand out of the aircraft and get it chopped off.
Lucky_Man_Infinity@reddit
I know they are showing it off and need to stay within camera range, but it looks so goofy just flying around in circles
nighthawke75@reddit
Weight capacity; a mosquito.