ULPT request: Need to get back at my neighbors for ruining my quality of life for 15 years
Posted by SansSkely@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 130 comments
So a little context here. Me and my mom moved into this house when I was 6 years old (Im now 21) and because of how legally muddy the ownership of the house is, a family member got my neighbors to try to get us to move out.
It started small, just walking on our roof, making noises at night, waking us up. But it escalated into bigger issues as the years went on, they poked holes in our roof so we get leaks everywhere, they threw a bag of leafs in a rain drain so water got to the wooden part of the roof (the part thats inside, idk what its called in english) so now its all rotten and full of bugs, fungi and rats, also the garage flooded because the rain drain overflowed into there, ruining $500 worth of electronics and clothes
And somewhat recently they broke our water tank and poured sand into it, clogging all of the pipes and making the water unsafe, they even broke the lid so now it's full of dirty water from rain and debris carried by the wind, I think there's a young tree sprouting in it
I need an ULPT to get back at them, I want to ruin their quality of life just as much as they did ours. And it's very important to me that I don't get in trouble legally, they've been getting away with it because we could never record any conclusive evidence besides recording videos of the noises when they walked in the roof.
What can I do to make them regret what they've done?
MotherofaPickle@reddit
Call the police and report them for trespassing and vandalism and then sue them for damages (property and emotional/mental/fiscal)?
Why are you allowing them to do this?
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
the police doesnt do anything because we have no evidence and they refuse to look into it
SeaUrchinSalad@reddit
Have you tried going out when they're on the roof to get photos?
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
weve tried but they crawl and stay low so we cant get a good picture, the best we could do is record the noises
Moderatelysure@reddit
They have to be getting up there somehow. Why can you not get up there too, camera in hand?
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
their house has a second floor with access to their own roof, they just climb up their own stairs in their property and crawl into our roof from there
i dont have a way of getting to my roof
asekevin@reddit
Buy, borrow, build a ladder. Osha note: "ladder 1 in 4 rule" (or 4:1 ratio) is a safety guideline for setting up extension ladders: for every four feet of height the ladder reaches against a wall, the base should be placed one foot away from the wall. This ensures the ladder is at a stable angle (approximately 75 degrees) to prevent it from sliding out or tipping over. To calculate the proper distance. To calculate the proper distance, divide the height the ladder reaches by four.
No_Noise09@reddit
Next time they come over and are crouched on your roof, report a robbery at Their address. Then start recording the spot where they would hop between buildings (with plenty of light). They come down and / or have their front door knocked in.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
good idea
throwaway_t6788@reddit
really?? if they go up.. they must come down so why not wait until they are coming down? which begs the Q how are they getting up? ladder or whatever? or just JUMPING HIGH?
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
my neighbor's house has a second floor so they have access to their own roof, they can crawl into our roof from there
No_Noise09@reddit
Stockpile glass bottles. Predict when they will walk on your roof again. Go to sleep early that night, and protect your ma, get them somewhere safe.
When the noises start, rain down on the intruders with glass.
Or sneak out and break important things in their house while they are on top of yours, if you know exactly who is doing it.
KahurangiNZ@reddit
They have to get off the roof eventually. Just stay out there and wait until they climb down, then snap them in the act.
MissPatsyStone@reddit
You have to be 100% your neighbor is qt home, tell the police you think the neighbor has been looking in your bedroom window when you are changing clothes. Make sure you dress as young looking as possible. No makeup, a ponytail and clothing you would have worn when you were 12 yrs old. Try to sound like a kid when you talk with them
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
i sleep in the (now cleaned) garage, it has no windows so this wouldnt work but thank u for the tip
therapistmurderteam@reddit
Have four guys come over when they are on the roof and beat them with fucking bats tf you think this is
HistoricalGrounds@reddit
Yet another novel solution from the eternally unorthodox, crafty and cunning minds of ULPT!
therapistmurderteam@reddit
Another unorthodox, cunning, and crafty comment from le redditor that paints little action figures in his parents dirty ass house
HistoricalGrounds@reddit
That’s my dirty ass house, thank you very much! Really seemed to touch a nerve there, huh? 💀
therapistmurderteam@reddit
Not really fatty. You are just boring and unoriginal. Tried to be clever but came out as another socially inept retard. It is very very boring
Tronracer@reddit
Police are required to take a report. After so many reports, you can use those reports as evidence in a lawsuit.
But also, at this point - 15 years later - why are there no security cameras installed?
_steve_rogers_@reddit
So they’ve been harassing your family and destroying your house for 15 fucking years, but you haven’t gotten any security cameras to catch them in the act? Yeah, the story is bullshit.
Resse811@reddit
And yet at no point have you thought about putting up cameras ….. to I dunno… get proof?
bumbaclotdumptruck@reddit
I don’t mean for this to seem mean, but these sound like schizophrenic delusions
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
i literally have a video (filmed from inside my house but still) where u can hear them hitting my roof with a tool
Timely_Concept8516@reddit
Why would you not go outside and film them in the act?
one-two-time@reddit
Can you send it to me?
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
yeah, i'll send it in dms
leuk_he@reddit
Why would they hit your roof if they can drill silent? This only proofs there is a sound. Not that the neighbors are that sound. Not that they destroy your roof.
You literally don't have a video, only a sound recording.
-- you would go paranoid too if everyone was against you.
__thrillho@reddit
Can you post the video?
bitchstachio@reddit
A lot of what you describe sounds like animal activity.
notachancey@reddit
How are they getting on your roof ? Do you call the cops when they are actively on the roof and wait for them to come down/go home to catch them ? Like do something when they're active, throw fucking rocks up at the noise and eventually you should hit something.
one-two-time@reddit
I’m so glad you said it first…. That’s exactly what’s going on.
RhodiumPlated@reddit
Yup. Definitely sounds more like paranoia is at work here. Or else AI.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
look thru my account, i dont post ai slop, im a game developer and im firmly against it
1nquiringMinds@reddit
That doesnt preclude delusions.
bitchstachio@reddit
Or animal activity.
Ghost_wolf90@reddit
I came here to say the same thing about schizophrenic delusions. Sounds like gutters aren’t being cleaned out, no roof maintenance for failing roofing tiles, and hard well water leaving sediment build up in an old water tank. Owning a home requires regular maintenance and upkeep but OP is blaming the neighbors for wear and tear.
divorceevil@reddit
It's tough to make a psychopath regret anything since they have no empathy, conscience or remorse.
Kraligor@reddit
You get very good standalone outdoor CCTV cameras on Aliexpress for like $30 a piece. Get 10 of them and plaster your house with them. Get a subscription for whatever cloud service they offer and record everything.
Compile recordings of multiple different incidents, then report them to the police. Also retain a lawyer and explore the possibility of a lawsuit.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
dude i earn $300 a month and its barely enough to cover the basics, im tired of people suggesting this
Kraligor@reddit
Well that sucks. Then buy at least ONE CCTV for $30. There are the ones with one static and one PTZ cam integrated in one device. Put it where you can observe the roof, and if their ingress point.
BFMCock@reddit
If they're actually doing this make them regret being on your roof, find glass bottles to throw up and break on your roof, put hot sauce on the roof (you can freeze it in ice cube trays making it easier to handle and throw), silicon based lube squirted/thrown on the roof, things like that. If this is going on and you can't catch them on camera or stop them, make them not want to do it again. This won't ruin their life in the same way, but getting them to stop is probably a more important first step. But if this is going on and they're getting support from a family member this does risk escalating this, so keep that in mind.
DanFrankenberger@reddit
Knives and stabbing weapons are effective against criminals sometimes. Peace be with you.
ryfromoz@reddit
fish oil and prawn juice under the wheel rims of their vehicle
Not-a-Cranky-Panda@reddit
"Me and my mom moved into this house when I was 6 years old (Im now 21) and because of how legally muddy the ownership of the house is, a family member got my neighbors to try to get us to move out"
It's been 15 years!
Altruistic-Sea581@reddit
It sounds like OP and Mom might be squatters
Not-a-Cranky-Panda@reddit
Also the neighbor has been putting holes in the roof for 15 years when they are home but in all that time they have never seen anyone on the roof.as when they rush out they hide - in the comments. There are leafs on the roof and sand on the floor so everything is them doing it. Sounds like OP and co need help but it's not legal help.
Baguetele@reddit
_sportyscience_@reddit
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Joker8392@reddit
If my roof was getting new holes poked in it, there’d be some 5.56 sized holes following them. WTF?
jueidu@reddit
This. Do unto others, revenge sevenfold, etc. Do the same things back to them, but worse. Lots of things are flammable.
Joker8392@reddit
I mean, I’m not even suggesting something illegal. They’re literally being attacked.
Miserable_Smoke@reddit
Discharging a firearm is a serious offense here. You get out of it by showing the person physically attacking you. Escalation is a great way to go to prison to think about what you've done.
FrostyShoulder6361@reddit
Depending from where OP is, weapons are not that easy to access. And shooting people who are on your territory but are not life threatening somebody may be highly illegal.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
owning a firearm without a license in argentina is very illegal and they can only be used for self defense in case of a break in, and with non lethal ammo too
HistoricalGrounds@reddit
This guy almost certainly isn’t in the US.
_steve_rogers_@reddit
The only answer here is rocket launcher
vanflooringguy@reddit
Someone else posted this comment elsewhere...it is the answer to all your neighbour issues:
Car stuff
Get surfboard or canning wax and rub it all over his windows.
Get some baby oil, dip a fingertip or paint brush in it and paint words on his car glass with the baby oil. Baby oils seeps into the glass pores and is almost impossible to remove. Since it's clear, they'll likely not notice right away. They'll likely only notice next time it rains and can see something like the the word "a$$hole" or whatever else you choose, carefully painted across their windshield
To avoid getting caught
exotics@reddit
Police? Have you thought of the police?
PriestessKikyo1@reddit
Order some nasty insects online and release into a vent or window, if you can't pay to order anything try to find something locally
mamaleigh05@reddit
There are sprays to attract insects, but if they are next door, I’d be hesitant to want to do anything that could creep over to your house. I’d be taking pics, have a door cam and calling code enforcement , HOA or a police/insurance report.
I have more evil ideas but I don’t know how crowded the neighborhood is and who has door cams. A construction vehicle (not just a truck, it was hauling heavy equipment), ruined the pipes to our sprinklers and we almost had to pay thousands to get the expensive grass replaced in some parts. It’s rather fun to walk by and drop a jack rock under their tire and watch them have it towed away when they parked the next day in front of my house in a corner lot.
VixenTraffic@reddit
The time to fix this should have been fifteen years ago, put up a tall fence, video cameras. And press charges. These are crimes they are committing.
Also, why are they doing this? Are you the only neighbor they hate? It seems like this level of targeted vandalism would be for a reason has anyone talked to them?
Hopefully your homeowners insurance will take care of repairs, but since you know how crazy your neighbors are, secure your home against any future damages.
Install security cameras. Put up a fence, an electric one if necessary. Get the police involved.
If you do decide to retaliate, made sure THEY do not have cameras. With everything they are doing, they are probably trying to antagonize you.
kidd64@reddit
So there are a lot of poisonous plants that normally grow naturally. Some in small amounts will just make you really sick while other plants could cause permanent damage or kill. If someone received such a plant mixed with seasonings well u get the point.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
i dont know much about argentinian flora but i know theres some nasty plants, ill look into it
Impossible_Novel9185@reddit
Don’t search for this stuff on Google! Find a way to search incognito wherever you search !
verge_ofviolence@reddit
Bamboo is fun. Also I’d make my water drain onto their property. If it’s my fence I’d move it over and encroach on their property. Maybe one of your trees could fall in their direction?
eatingganesha@reddit
hilarious considering the owner would simply end up with a truly screwed up house and loads of expensive fixes. That in itself is pretty good revenge.
But since you’re leaving, just stuff shrimp in every place possible - curtain rods, gaps in the walls, hvac ducts, anything that has got a gap in it.
PriestessKikyo1@reddit
Wait for them to leave or be distracted, put fish guts, blue cheese and other super stinky things in the vent of their home or somewhere they can't locate easily but will smell up their house
comp21@reddit
Are you sure you don't have a co2 leak?
If Reddit has taught me anything, it's that "wired sounds" and "paranoid thoughts" are almost always a co2 leak.
Bubbles-not-included@reddit
ULPT are typically for people who've tried the normal routes and have found them lacking.
Like these activities are beyond harassment, but you haven't even got cameras to catch them in the act. Have you tried anything?
kilobitch@reddit
“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!”
Illsquad@reddit
I'm gonna guess they tried smoking weed, but that didn't fix the problem
ZealousidealMango114@reddit
They just need to smoke more about it
ophaus@reddit
Bingo
throwaway_t6788@reddit
you didnt call the police at every opportunity or install cameras or anything??
Slenthik@reddit
You said the neighbours are acting on orders from a family member. So it's not the neighbours you should be going after, but the family member. Attack the problem at the root, not the branches.
Forgottengoldfishes@reddit
Love your reply. Be efficient and ruthless. There’s no other way.
FranceBrun@reddit
If you live in or near the countryside, maybe you can pay some farmer to dump a load of horse or cow shit in their driveway. Maybe a load of logs, or a truck full of sand, gravel or stones from a landscaping company.
Make little cards or signs with their phone number, and perhaps the address. You can write, free room for a homeless person, or free meals for the hungry, come any time, or giving away a free car, or hot chick looking for horny guys! Call (the guy’s number). Put these signs everywhere.
Sign them up in the internet to receive all the junk mail you can. In America, the Mormons and the Scientologists may even come to your home. You can also sign them up online for free consultations about new windows, solar panels, new bathroom, kitchen remodel, etc.
You may need to use a VPN just to be on the safe side.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
im in argentina so driveways arent common (people park their cars in the street in small towns like mine) but yes i'll def look into signing them up for everything i can find
there was this time i broke their windows and got in legal trouble so i have to pay them back but that means i have their bank information like full name and i can find out their number with that
FranceBrun@reddit
Well, maybe you can get the horse shit or gravel dumped on their lawn. I suggested the driveway because then they can’t park there
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
theres horses near my house because we live in a suburban area near a railway and horses graze there, i'll go out at night with dark clothes to collect horse shit with a bag and dump it in front of their door
FranceBrun@reddit
Now you’re thinking like an American high school student! There you go!
No_Noise09@reddit
Not the ask, but you mentioned Legally muddy.
Another suggestion is to find a lawyer / land agent to sell the place, taking a percentage of the sale. With this deal, they would wade through the legal stuff Before they get paid, if that is a thing.
Do you value the house itself? / Does that location give you security you can't find elsewhere? If that house got completely destroyed, and you were in a new home, would your life be better?
The surest revenge would be to get out of that situation and live a better life than the people who are making yours hell.
If you can't leave, are there pillars of your community you haven't reached out to yet? Could they get the neighbors to back off? You need local community more than sketchy ideas from Internet strangers, myself among them.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
and yes we would very much want to leave
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
after my grandpa died the ownership of the house has been equally split between my mom and two of her sisters
her sisters are well off so we're the only ones staying here because we have nowhere to go but one of her sisters isn't okay with that and has repeatedly sent my neighbors to mess with us
we would sell our part of the house but her sisters aren't interested in buying it and finding a third party buyer interested in a house like this that they wouldn't even fully own is. hard.
we don't have the resources to leave, my mom is unemployed and im surviving off of disability payments, we have just enough for the basics
JTEL918@reddit
Bear trap. Preferably thrown at them.
Baguetele@reddit
With the bear still in it.
ConversationBasic195@reddit
You take bags of concrete and pour it down every toilet and drain in their house
Sea-Louse@reddit
Bacon grease is really good too. It pours well when it’s hot, but solidifies into a solis mass when it cools.
Baguetele@reddit
Coconut oil. Lower melting point. Easier to make it happen.
highnnmighty@reddit
Hi it’s me your enemy neighbor. May I use your bathroom? Pay no attention to these … large sacks of concrete
ConversationBasic195@reddit
I mean obvs you have to break in but I didn’t really want to say that.
_steve_rogers_@reddit
The only answer here is rocket launcher
IronWoodSentinel@reddit
One annoying thing about owning a house is that the windows are very fragile.
The_best_is_yet@reddit
It would be too bad if the neighbors windows broke in the middle of the night. How do things like this even happen?
Voyager5555@reddit
I think we're a little beyond "unethical" here.
OahuJames@reddit
Sorry you are living through this nightmare. How come they have such easy access to your roof? Recording them walking on the roof? Go outside and video them. Call the cops and trespass them.
I doubt you could get away with doing the same back to them. Which brings us to piss disks and the other go-to ULPT tricks.
Ok-Vermicelli-7990@reddit
Put their phone number and address on fb marketplace or WhatsApp selling something people really want for cheap or free. Furniture, farm animals, 4wd. Or whatever they have outside in their yard post it for free just come pick it up.
I mean it’s only annoying but maybe you would feel better to aggravate them.
xynthee@reddit
This sounds like Israeli shit.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
im argentinian
jollytoes@reddit
Fire can get out of control quickly
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
noted
Shaneaux@reddit
How is none of this something you can press charges for? This is terrible!
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
the police refuses to start an investigation because they dont take the case seriously, we havent been able to collect enough solid evidence that its them that did it besides recording of the noises
Scooter-breath@reddit
Music. On and loud when you go out - set a timer. Denial and off when you're at home.
sexydrmilf@reddit
Since the law won’t help and you have little resources, I’d say try these.
Small investment: buy a multipack of sharpies and hand them out to friends. You all then go to the sketchiest bars around and write, “MILF DTF, I like aggressive persistent men.” That way when men call they’ll become downright nasty trying to get that imaginary lady on the line.
Larger investment: Purchase business cards with their info on it. Advertise free mal de ojo protection for babies. No appointment necessary! Call or text 24/7!
OR
If they’re extra superstitious, find out their birthdays and start sending them cards months and months in advance. Give all your friends and family (different handwriting is key) cards to fill out. Ideally they’ll get multiple cards at varying times through the year so they’ll be constantly living in fear of their impending death. New letters should arrive annually forever, beginning the day after their next birthday.
Full scale psychological warfare: Obtain a small amount of animal blood. Dip toe in blood. Write, “You’re next.” on a blank piece of paper. Ensure you handle the letter (and envelope) with gloves. No DNA, no proof. Send the letter from a town or two over. You now have the terrible satisfaction of knowing the cops won’t do anything and they’ll live in fear for the rest of their lives. Repeat as necessary.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
thank u for the tips
stabbingrabbit@reddit
Cameras everywhere and big spot lights aimed at their house. Big speakers with a low frequency hum. Invite friends on Sunday night and have a loud party. Fireworks every night. Buy chicken parts ( livers etc) throw them into their yard. If you have raccoons, bread and old food on their roof. Fox urine in the vent on their windshield of their car.
Money_Ad1068@reddit
If their house has an external ethernet cable providing them with internet, pull it out a foot, cut it or partially cut it and shove it back in the hole.
Billthebanger@reddit
If it were me then I’d get bright lights on poles and shine them at their house at night.
ShesGotaChicken2Ride@reddit
In the US, I would document everything and sue them. They would be made to pay for all the damage they caused and have to pay for all the repairs.
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
not in the US sadly, im in argentina and the justice system is so bad, ive already tried going that route
nojustnoperightonout@reddit
Time to make them believe Satan has moved into their house
JEWCEY@reddit
15 years and now it suddenly matters? What changed?
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
well the biggest thing thats changed is that now im an adult and i have more agency so i can actually take action instead of waiting for my mom to do something
Plasticity93@reddit
Get some cameras up like a decade ago...
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
me and my mom can barely afford to get the basics, if we had spare money we would've been saving to move out for a while now :(
Billthebanger@reddit
Ok this sounds like a bot post second what country did this take place in ? Also what kind of house is it a house,duplex or condo?
SansSkely@reddit (OP)
argentina and also its like just a house
phluff__head@reddit
Climb on their roof and jam a tennis ball into their plumbing vent. Unflushable toilets can really put a damper on your day
bradlees@reddit
Need some Lake City Quiet Pills to resolve all of this. When taken as prescribed, they can be quite effective
dcidino@reddit
I understood that reference...
Ok_Enthusiasm_758@reddit
get a 5 gallon bucket, Fill it with flour and then keep filing with with diesel untill like wet sand. Then put a m80 in it, Light it and have fun with ur home made incendiary bomb.
beachbum818@reddit
Bricks through their windows at night should send a message. Like 3am... scare them and you'll be gone before they know who did it.
Pour water into their gas tank of the car.
Use cutters to cut the valves odd their car tires.
rusmo@reddit
This is the sort of situation you should sit on for another 15 years and maybe see what people have to say.
maninatrexshirt@reddit
So...are you living in the house legally or not? I'm going to assume no but not so obviously your family member can evict you cleanly. I'm also going to assume you can't just move somewhere else or video tape them vandalizing your property and then go to the cops. I am ALSO going to assume you don't live in the USA.
hooo boy you are in a ringer of a problem. Just going over to the neighbors house and wrecking up the place won't really help, just escalate the situation. I would either find a way to intimidate the neighbor enough that they wouldn't want to mess with you, or befriend the neighbor so he won't WANT to mess with you. I am going to assume straight murdering the family member that is starting this isn't a good option.
BEST option would be to get a new place to live, rip all the copper out of the old place, break up a bunch of asbestos break pads in the open walls, and then burn the place to the ground. With any luck when your family member goes to rebuild, the city will hit him with remediation for the asbestos and the land will be worthless to him.
anniebarlow@reddit
Should’ve gotten cameras years ago.
cbelt3@reddit
Your issues are with your family member AND their hired goons, the neighbors. Go after them both.
Also cameras are cheap and great for getting evidence of acts of vandalism.
Danibecr84@reddit
Install a shooting range by the fence... invite all your friends.