Why do Brits get so mad about Harry talking about the royal family?
Posted by Yummyteaperson@reddit | AskABrit | View on Reddit | 142 comments
It seems childish to be upset about it. Any normal adult would like to know the details of what’s actually going on with a “royal” family that takes up tax dollars. It feels like they don’t want their idea of Santa Claus to be tarnished or something.
I see that many of people grew up idealizing the royals, especially figures like the late Queen. Harry was “Diana’s boy” — practically national property in a symbolic sense. So when he reveals dysfunction, it feels to some like betrayal or disillusionment rather than just honesty. But isn’t it time to grow out of this?
Much of the outrage seems emotional, cultural, and symbolic, but not logical. It’s also very telling how the British press attacks him for it. The press in any other setting would eat up someone revealing so much about a powerful family. But not yours..almost as if it’s controlled and has a very specific agenda. Now why would a grown adult want to be spoon fed this clear PR manipulation by the press?
NurseAbbers@reddit
The large majority don't. However, the British Media has a lot to answer for, tbh. Harry has been the scapegoat for the Royal Family and the press for his whole life. William needs something covering up? Print something negative about Harry. Charles needs some positive press? Negative story about Harry coming up. Katherine needs time out? Harry is there to fill the pages of the newspapers.
Harry doesn't talk to the press or about the BRF (and Meghan hasn't spoken about them since Oprah, and that was just about how she was treated) EVERY thing you've read recently re: H&M regarding the BRF has been speculation, lies and has been planted either Buckingham Palace Press team or Kensington Palace Press team.
Its interesting to note that there was a documentary a few years back where journalists were interviewed about Harry and Meghan, and multiple people stated that positive stories about them don't sell as well as negative ones, so it makes sense from a business perspective to write nasty things, true or not, because it makes the writer more money.
Imho, H&M are better off out of the media circus.
ODFoxtrotOscar@reddit
We must have all collectively hallucinated his BBC interview in May then
Six key moments from Prince Harry's BBC interview https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8x8knpgnd0o
NurseAbbers@reddit
To clarify my point: Harry doesn't talk to the NEWSPAPERS. This interview is with the BBC. He has scheduled interviews on camera so malicious twerps cannot misinterpret his words, and those interviews are few and far between. Otherwise, He doesn't give "quotes" except through official statements and certainly does not feed the press stories to keep him relevant. Unlike some members of the BRF.
Bajovane@reddit
Harry used to be the most popular royal, once even ahead of the Queen! What he and his wife have done is to smear the whole country with the broadest brush possible.
The UK people have every right to feel the way they do!!!
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
How did they smear a whole country? They spoke about their experiences within the family and with the press. Does the press with a clear agenda represent the entire country?
Bajovane@reddit
Harry literally says he refuses to return to the UK(don’t threaten a good time, man) because he’s under the impression that he and Meh are in grave danger without the full security he’s demanding. He has also said he feels that the UK is racist and dangerous.
Mind you, he’s not fully in reality. He and Meh are mentally ill. They drink, smoke weed, and god knows what else. His brain is fried. Meh has played him.
Atheissimo@reddit
I think a lot of Brits were pissed off that Harry and Megan seemed to be making a living by airing the dirty laundry of a largely well-liked cultural institution for the amusement and cash of the rest of the world, an institution which they themselves claimed not to want to be a part of but at the same time came back to that well every time the bank account was looking light.
We get to make fun of the whole thing as much as we like, but as with any family, that privilege doesn't extend to outsiders. Think about how Americans piss the bed when somebody 'disrespects the flag', and now imagine that Hunter Biden was making a living by going on a worldwide American Flag Desecration Tour. That's how it comes off.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
I’m clearly American and I don’t give a shit when someone disrespects the flag. But I just see the royal family as a sham outdated institution at this point so I don’t care if it’s “well-liked”…I care about the truth. And they seem to have several connections to shady people. Why wouldnt you care more to get a piece of reality instead of this fantasy because they are “well liked”
non-hyphenated_@reddit
But it's not your institution so why should you care? There's bigger things to care about in the US than who we get to host State visits in the UK.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Because I’m a student of British history and am trying to understand the mindset of a population that is still upholding and supporting such an archaic and illogical institution.
Atheissimo@reddit
Lots of things are archaic and illogical. The flag, the tomb of the unknown soldier, the liberty bell, the White House. All of those things are old and pointless and could be replaced with much cheaper alternatives or just scrapped altogether.
Holding onto old things that are symbolic of a shared past is how culture works.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
There’s a difference between that and pretending that “royal” blood is a real thing and that these people are special or deserve special treatment…
Atheissimo@reddit
What's the difference between pretending that one dead soldier in a special grave is significant and pretending that someone being related to William the Conqueror is significant?
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Strange comparison. Most nations uphold some sort of significance to a dead soldiers grave. But most have been intelligent enough to outgrow giving having an active royal family and giving them special privileges.
Atheissimo@reddit
'Obviously the arbitrary significance my society attaches to a mundane and useless object is deeply logical, while the arbitrary significance your society attaches to a mundane and useless object is silly'
If you're actually interested in other cultures you should open your mind a bit.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
I don’t really care about war memorials tbh I think most wars were a waste and disgrace to humanity and many soldiers were rapists that don’t deserve any honor. But the general notion is that those soldiers actually did something and made a real sacrifice that was difficult and unpleasant vs the royal family who is seen as “sacrificing their lives” to cutting ribbons and living in palaces because they have “special blood” which is clearly nonsense.
Atheissimo@reddit
So in this situation you're able to put aside the fact that the memorial itself isn't significant, and some of the soldiers it represents might have been assholes, but that broadly it is a good thing that society memorialises their achievements and their memory because it helped to strengthen our existing society, which is also broadly good.
Similarly, in British society, the royal family represents 1,000 years of history and continuity that helped to bring about the broadly good country that is here now and links us to our broadly positive past. Just as the majority of people don't look at the Tomb and think 'yeah but some of them were rapists', most people don't look at the royal family and say 'yeah but think how many traffic cones the government could have bought instead'
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
lol ok I’ll just accept that some of you are simply brainwashed and don’t understand basic science. Royal blood isn’t real.
non-hyphenated_@reddit
No, you're trying to be antagonistic. You've been told some people care, some don't so it's not the mindset of a population. You came here trying to get an argument going. If you were a "student" trying to get an understanding you wouldn't hold a position, which you plainly already do. You're fully entitled to your view, it's the view of a lot of people, just don't try and dress it up as something else.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
I said I’m a student of history. The question is clearly of my own personal curiosity about this loyalty towards the royal family and upholding their facade. I don’t see how it’s strictly me trying to start an argument. It’s genuine questions to which I’ve received various answers. Not my fault it’s bothering you so much. I fully understand any criticisms people have of the US. I don’t even fuck with that founding father’s nonsense. Most of them were slave owners yapping about “freedom”… but I’m not afraid to face reality.
SoggyWotsits@reddit
I don’t idolise the royals, but I can tell you what annoys me. Harry is quite happy to sell out his family so he can enjoy the life he wants. Some of that might be helping others, but much of it is living a celebrity lifestyle. The thing he seems to ignore is that he’s only in a privileged position in the first place because of his family. His family are only still in a privileged position because they’ve managed to keep the people who fund them largely on side.
The royals are there to do a job. That’s why many don’t receive any public money or taxpayer funded security. If Harry wants no part of it then no fine, but he can’t expect the royal treatment wherever he goes, and shouldn’t sell gossip when he needs some cash. Without them he would be a nobody, and he certainly wouldn’t have his current wife!
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
He can’t help what he was born into though. And again, why wouldn’t the public want to know things? Because you want to maintain this fantasy of the royal family which I find very childish and illogical
SoggyWotsits@reddit
No he can’t help being born into it, but he could have stepped back. He didn’t really want that though, he just didn’t want the rules that come with staying in. Stepping back means giving up the privilege though.
There’s no fantasy with the royal family. They’re representatives of our country who stay out of politics and do a good job with diplomacy. Diplomacy that way works much better than a one sided political leader who might be gone in a few years.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Sounds like a big fat waste of time and money to me. People bowing to billionaires whose official role is to “unite the nation” while doing nothing concrete to govern it.
non-hyphenated_@reddit
You really have no clue how this works have you
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
If they can’t have political views they can’t do much and it’s very obvious that the royal family’s biggest goal is to maintain their status quo. Also, royal blood is a nonsense fantasy. You seem to not understand basic science.
non-hyphenated_@reddit
Their role isn't to govern. You're not getting it at all. They have no say in how the country is ran. They project soft diplomatic power overseas, that's why so many works leaders crave a formal state visit. They get rolled out to host foreign ambassadors, opening doors for actual diplomats and government officials to do the actual work. They support charities, using their profile to raise awareness. They haven't had an active role in government for hundreds of years.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Yes that’s my point. They are just a silly mascot. It’s archaic and they are given ancient entitlements. It just seems so ridiculous. And then to treat them like a little fantasy that you don’t want exposed is extremely illogical
non-hyphenated_@reddit
What resources?
Smart_Record_7989@reddit
British tend to have a sense of “fair play” and “loyalty” and there’s a sense Harry is “having his cake and eating it”
ie he’s taken full advantage of the extreme wealth and privilege his family gave him, and then further enriched himself by exploiting it (essentially a “kiss and tell” model), BUT is trying to still keep the trappings of it “his various “Sussex royal” brands etc.
I think if he’d done an expose and then cut all royal ties and affectations, he’d be largely supported, but he comes across as a bit of a grifter who’s milking his relationship with them for money and fame AND trying to keep the benefits of being a royal.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
It was an institution he was born into. He is still a human who has to identify himself somehow and it was part of his life for a long time. He is still a family member even if not a working one. Who better to give the world insight into this archaic and powerful institution than someone who was once fully part of it? Why wouldn’t you want to know what he has to say about it?
Yet the press has tried to vilify him as much and sometimes more than Andrew. Up until now, since it’s become impossible to ignore how disgusting Andrew is.
Smart_Record_7989@reddit
I do, but there’s a thin line between “whistleblowing” and “exploiting for profit” and I think he’s very firmly on the later.
I actually have some sympathy for him (as he experienced significant trauma though paparazzi as a child and it’s extremely common children in this situations go on to perform the same power dynamic as an adult), but trying to answer your question.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
The family is so powerful and very likely been protecting a pedo for so long, I don’t see why most people wouldn’t want to know more about them, even if they are being “exploited for profit” it’s so odd to me that some Brit’s would like to cover their ears and say “lalala” I can’t hear you I don’t want to know!
non-hyphenated_@reddit
Whether you support him or not, you have a rapist and convicted felon leading your nation and representing you on the world stage. Maybe step out of the glass house before throwing more stones around
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Im asking questions about your country. Why bring up mine as if I don’t have my own serious issues with it? It’s not the topic here. This is the askbrits sub. I am extremely critical of the US but that’s not the subject here is it? Your odd response is so defensive but lacks substance.
non-hyphenated_@reddit
You're saying it's wrong to have a sexual predator in a powerful family from a place that has a sexual predator in a powerful family. You can see how that's a confused statement
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Yeah and I ask the same of Americans who support that predator. You are still going against the purpose of the sub and my questions because you are all defensive about my questions. Most Americans are not whining about how they don’t want to hear more about a president. Our press happily spills all the tea with enthusiasm instead of criticizing someone for “whistleblowing” or even exploiting for profit. We’ve had presidents with many scandals and we don’t typically whine about how our little fantasy has been corrupted. We’ve welcome the disillusionment.
Smart_Record_7989@reddit
We would, but the way he’s doing it comes across as disingenuous.
Remember he WAS part of the royal family.
He didn’t whistleblow and step away in his 20s, he did it at 35 after accumulating extreme wealth and doing the same harbouring you accuse the rest of the family of doing.
I think he paints a picture as a selfless whistleblower, but he’s an extremely wealthy and privileged man, who was part of/took full advantage of the family you criticise for 17 years of adulthood (interspersed with dressing as a nazi at parties).
Exposing the royal family and learning of its crimes… fantastic! No one will argue with this… but I think Harry was forced into this role, rather than doing it altruistically, and is motivated largely by financial gain in what he’s doing, and that’s why I think a lot of people aren’t massive fans of his.
Ill_Current_7197@reddit
Because we're being accused of racism whenever we make a critical note about him or his (highly annoying) wife.
Meanwhile about 90% of us had no idea she was black to begin with. Like hearing Stephen Graham talking about being bi-racial. Not saying they're wrong but both are extremely light skinned.
Plus I completely believe Piers Morgan, which is not easy for me to say. Meghan is starfucker who would do anything to raise her own profile.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
Not being funny but I heard Danny baker say he didn't know she was black. What?! She's clearly very dark skinned. Now I have a Italian family and my grandmother is very dark olive skinned. I would assume people would mix her up for being black and certainly not white!
Ill_Current_7197@reddit
Meghan is dark skinned? No, my skin is darker than hers after 2 weeks on a beach.
Mind you, I was also unaware Mariah Carey is black until I was 30ish. Sometimes its very hard to tell the difference.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
Compared to "white British" yes she's dark skinned. You should have to be blind not to think she's mixed race at least SOMEWHERE down the line. It's far from a Cole Palmer/Stephen Graham style situation she's half black!!
Ill_Current_7197@reddit
No need to insult or shout. Calm doen kid.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Even if what you say about Meghan is true. It’s so childish to think she’s much different than that fake “royal” family who never had to do any real work in their lives and live off of public funds.
Ill_Current_7197@reddit
Holy chatgpt batman, are you gonna go into any of my criticism or just keep repeating standard phrases by the anti royals?
You werent asking about the other royals, you asked about why Megahn got hated. Dont change the subject just cause you cant think of an argument.
You ask people for their opinion and then go around and tell everybody who has a different opinion that they're wrong. Why do you ask or are you jusy here to soapbox about how useless the royals are? Cause I think thats what youre really saying.
BenRod88@reddit
Firstly, pounds not dollars. Secondly, the ones who do care are the ones that think it’s hypocritical of him to want his privacy then go on Oprah and write books about everything that goes on in the family, especially during a time when both his grandad and grandmother were on deaths door. Add to that some of the blatant untruths that have came out from him and people who used to love the guy have now turned on him. And the whole stepping back from royal duties but still wanting all of the benefits that it comes with
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Wanting privacy doesn’t mean you never speak publicly again. It means you get to choose what parts of your life are shared and what parts remain private. It’s the difference between strangers sneaking photos of you through a window, versus you inviting someone into your home to talk about your experiences. And how can anybody really know what’s true and what isn’t? It seems most people attached to that circle in any way will do what they can to uphold the fantasy of the royal family and maintain a status quo.
BenRod88@reddit
It’s not about him not talking publicly again, I said it’s the wanting privacy yet airing family dirty laundry for the world to see. And there have been instances that he has spoken about yet were factually false. One off the top of my head was him saying he never went on bike rides as a kid yet there are pictures of him doing just that
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
The bike rides things is what gets you? 😂 that’s the kind of thing many people might fumble about their childhood. I’ve personally only been on about 2 bike rides in my childhood. A lot of people cant even remember their childhood, especially with regard to traumatic times.
So who cares if he airs out dirty family laundry? This is an institution that takes up public funds and you don’t want to know all the possibilities about them? That’s just plain silly. You want to still believe the royals are special and fart out roses.
non-hyphenated_@reddit
It doesn't
MalignEntity@reddit
No, it's the endless lies and hipocrisy from him and his wife. They got treated like royalty, then still felt the need to whinge and needle about how terrible their lives are. Don't like it? Fine then bugger off and stop whining.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
How can you actually know what lies are when you are spoon fed a narrative by the press that is clearly in league with the royals. And their game has been threatened by Harry so naturally they will make him their enemy
MalignEntity@reddit
Because you can watch complete, unedited interviews with them, then fact-check their narrative. When you do, they come across as a pair complete narcissists. Or (as I more suspect) a complete narcissist who has dominated a lost boy.
BenRod88@reddit
It’s not what gets me. I don’t care particularly I’m saying this is what people pick up on and find hypocritical about him. There’s other instances if you dig a bit. Like speaking on how he lost his virginity and gave enough detail that the girl was named publicly, what’s the need for that other than to sell his story and make her life uncomfortable.
TheRemanence@reddit
Also, talking about your penis and how you lost you virginity, don't seem like vital info for us to hold the institution to account. It's just weird over sharing. But yeah, the vast majority either don't care at all or probably think about it less than 0.0001% of the time - usually when scrolling and seeing something like this.
Some-Air1274@reddit
It’s weird that he would think people would care that. Most people probably thought wtf, tmi.
Riovem@reddit
Or the bit about using his mum's favourite cream on his frostbitten 'todger'
Jesisawesome@reddit
These are good points and I can't answer them because personally i dont give a shit about any of the royal family and I would prefer it if they didnt exist as an institution.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
I don't think racism is a big factor. Let's not forget early on they were hugely popular and she actually added a bit of Hollywood to the whole set up.
Jesisawesome@reddit
Yeah maybe - I honestly don't know what goes on in other people's heads.
But those (older) members of my family who do engage in a bit of light racism bloody hate Meaghan and Harry.
mom0007@reddit
I agree that the public generally liked her the press less, so there was definitely some racism in the press, but overall, she received the same press hazing that every royal woman has received particularly those marrying into the family.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
It was the press going with the whole "fab four" line whenever the two couples did anything. They loved the glamour of it.
Inquisitive_Scot_84@reddit
I think no.1 makes a huge generalisation. No. 2 most likely but the press also just love a story. No. 3 demonstrates the challenge in understand what Harry and Meghan actually want. But the truth is, who in their everyday life actually cares what they want?
Ill_Current_7197@reddit
Bs on point 1. Most of us had no idea she was black until it got pointed out.
Laefxxx@reddit
No.3 is a great one. We don’t care what he wants to say about his family/media however slagging them off and wanting to remove yourself, but still expecting the UK’s general population to pay and look after him is ridiculous.
Oghamstoner@reddit
That second one isn’t given enough attention.
SceneDifferent1041@reddit
To me, she is a lying, money grabbing cow but I don't need to read about it to know.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
If that’s what she is then most of the royals are straight from the pits of hell for protecting Andrew for so long. You think his mom didn’t know who he was getting involved with? How naive is that
non-hyphenated_@reddit
Your point doesn't make the one you're responding to wrong. It's not a zero sum game
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
The bias says a lot, in my opinion of course.
non-hyphenated_@reddit
Spiker alert. We don't. The tabloids do but most people honestly never give it a moments thought.
aesemon@reddit
If only they put as much energy over the last few years into exposing the money and home that the sweaty nonce Andrew has enjoyed.
non-hyphenated_@reddit
But he's not suing them....
aesemon@reddit
Could you imagine if he tried. Would have to buy kilos of popcorn for that one.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Now this makes a lot more sense!
non-hyphenated_@reddit
To be fair, I am a royalist. He's "resigned" though and doesn't live in the country anymore. It's his choice how he lives his life and who he marries. Good luck to him. It's not my problem. Where a lot of people have an issue though is he no longer wants the downsides of being in that world but still wants the titles, his kids to have titles and his idea of generating his own income is to leverage those things with Netflix. South Park covered it beautifully
colin_staples@reddit
Even before he resigned, it was his choice who he married.
The anti-Harry feelings are actually anti-Meghan. Because she's American, divorced, and mostly because of racism.
Meghan gets slammed in the press for doing something but Kate gets celebrated in the press for doing the exact same thing
Regardless of Meghan's personality, it's just flat out racism. And by association, the press hate Harry too (and also because he calls the press out for hounding his mother)
Charles wanted to marry Camilla, and they wouldn't let him. Look how that turned out.
Comfortable-Bug1737@reddit
Regardless of whether he's resigned, he is still a Prince and his children are still royalty. They are his titles.
colin_staples@reddit
Tabloids use rage to sell papers / make people click on their stories
In fact they manufacture rage, using (all caps) words like SLAMS and DESTROYS
Ignore tabloids, ignore manufactured rage, have a more peaceful life
DV_Zero_One@reddit
Genuinely, nobody gives af.
'Guy who thinks it's ok to cosplay as an SS officer has a dysfunctional family' isn't surprising to anyone.
SnooRegrets8068@reddit
Yeh pretty much everything ive learned about them has been against my will.
tgy74@reddit
This is kind of true, but I think people are overstating how few people care about the royals. I'm actually always surprised by how many people I know do randomly have surprisingly strong views on the Royals - like I have some friends and colleagues who are lovely and relaxed people about most things, and then can turn into frothing lunatics at the mention of Harry or Megan.
I think it's probably the para social thing where these people have been such a fabric of cultural discourse for so long that we all think we know them intimately and we're entitled to an opinion.
Sheetz_Wawa_Market32@reddit
The downvotes on OP’s post (barely breaking even, which means there’s a LOT of negativity toward OP’s theses) say different, though. 🤔
non-hyphenated_@reddit
It's the phrasing of the question. It's another one of those that's borderline condescending but may not have been intended that way.
Sheetz_Wawa_Market32@reddit
You obviously care enough to be offended. Thanks for proving my point. 😘
non-hyphenated_@reddit
I'm not offended. I said it could be but may not be intentional. I don't get offended by words.
MrDibbsey@reddit
I suspect it's more that more people think this is a stupid question as most people don't feel strongly either way, rather than that they feel strongly about the issues raised.
It feels like another question from (what folk will presume to be an American) about something that doesn't concern them in the least.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
This is far more a tabloid thing that takes anything Harry or Megan say or do and turn it into an apparent scandal. They need an antidote to the fawning they do over Kate and William.
scottgal2@reddit
He seems like the only decent one but he married a black American divorcee so the Royal Family uses negative stories 'source close to the royal family' any time there's any scandal about another royal.
Prince Andrew stories were almost always preceded by a Prince Harry story to feed the baying hounds of the press and keep them compliant on the Andy paedophile stuff.
Good_Lettuce_2690@reddit
Few people care about the royals in the UK. Many want to see them all gone. The ones that still care are dying off.
papayametallica@reddit
I think there is a certain % of the people who are interested and are encouraged by sections of the media.
The rest of us dgaf .
Personally I just don’t believe there is a place in a modern society where rank/ privilege which you inherited from your forebears by pillaging the working classes around the world entitles you to be treated differently.
qmzpl@reddit
Can't remember the last time I met someone that even cares about the royal family
Stephen_Dann@reddit
Tax dollars???.
The costs of the Royal Family are funded from the Crown Estate, whose main source of income are rents from property originally owned by the monarch. In return for allowing most of the income to go to the exchequer, a percentage is paid back to cover official duties, staff, travel etc.
As for Harold Duke of Sussex. To be honest most people don't care. However there is an element of annoyance having to listen to a privileged entitled person complain because he feels hard done by. One thing we have learnt is the Windsor's are just as disorganised and dysfunctional as the rest of us.
Willowx@reddit
Is Harold a cousin of Henry?
Stephen_Dann@reddit
Harold is Harrys official name, the other is a family nickname.
welshcake82@reddit
Henry is his official name.
freebiscuit2002@reddit
AFAIK the vast majority of British people don't care about it at all.
Some newspapers pretend it's exciting - but that's because they long ago gave up on doing any real reporting and they just chase any celebrity crap that flashes onto their screens.
Battleborn300@reddit
The thing is, I think you have completely misunderstood,
Don’t get me wrong getting really upset about something, that you are so detached from is somewhat ridiculous.
But I think, it goes to morals and other things,
Harry claimed he wanted a quieter life away from the spot light, Harry wanted to live independently and make his own money,
He can do these things without airing his dirty laundry if you like, He is literally profiteering from given a very biased view on very personal family life. Which whether it is accurate or not, The people mentioned in this had no choice about being mentioned, It’s personal family matters, And ultimately not wanting be part of the royal set up is one thing, but profiteering from this is completely unreasonable and hypocritical.
Surely you see that and understand that.
Not to mention, nobody is perfect Harry himself has made many mistakes, and that’s not to say people cannot change, But to go from wearing a nazi uniform to openly calling out family members as racist, is ridiculous.
Especially when the comments were not racist.
Again he will be the first to admit, people can change, so surely if you feel comments were made out of turn within the family, you deal with it, within the family, not publicise it all over the world.
It is also not honest, it is a narrative, he has made to sell books and make people go oooh.
It’s funny because there are lots of statements in his book for example that we no are factually incorrect, And not facts, we can say he interpreted it incorrectly, like he has made statements/ paragraphs that are factually incorrect.
I appreciate everyone see’s the world slightly different, me and my sister grew up together and have maybe slightly different views of a same event as a child,
It doesn’t make either of us wrong, it is just the way I saw the world. Or she saw the world.
But it doesn’t make sense to attack your family, Only to make money, Why did he do it , because it’s the only way to be relevant to sell books, He makes less than half the sales, if he doesn’t have some kind of attack on the royal family.
Because he is irrelevant
And it’s not about getting mad at him, it’s about Grow the fuck up- you are a 40 year old nepo baby, That should know better.
He didn’t need to do what he did, it’s questionable how accurate things are too.
It contradicts everything he is claiming to stand for.
MuayJudo@reddit
We don't. The media like to kick up a fuss, but generally the majority of the population don't give a crap beyond a break room talking point.
Are you British, or is your viewpoint from foreign media?
LooselyBasedOnGod@reddit
Why do you think the media covers it so much? Cos people lap it up.
sossighead@reddit
People lap it up everywhere though. I remember being in the states and seeing several glossy magazines carrying sensationalised / made up stories about the British Royal Family.
It’s celebrity gossip. There’s a market for it.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
Yeah I often see Americans who put themselves in various "sides" endlessly arguing over some random poshos via gossip they have heard and run with. It's bizarre.
pharmamess@reddit
Why do you think people lap it up? Cos the media tells them to.
SlimyBone@reddit
There is absolutely an element of this, dare I say in the older generations. Anecdotally, if the BBC push a brand of slop (which changes frequently), I do hear about it from my parents and others, even if it's just a passing comment.
CocoRufus@reddit
I couldn't care less what I do think, however, is just stop effing whining
_Daftest_@reddit
You're making the rash assumption that what Harry says is "what's actually going on".
londo_calro@reddit
The tabloids and their bored readers may care, but most people really don’t, though there may be some general disapproval of airing your family’s dirty laundry in public.
Melonpan78@reddit
We don't give a shit about this bunch of entitled oxygen thieves- unless we're journalists for the Daily Mail.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Is it mostly the younger generation on Reddit? Or is support for the monarchy generally going down that much?
Ill_Current_7197@reddit
Only American SJW'ers care about those 2.
sossighead@reddit
18-24 year olds have a lower level of support for the monarchy than the population on average. Additionally, I think King Charles isn’t the most popular with older, conservative people who would be traditional monarchists when compared with his mother. He’s seen as a bit of a liberal by them.
LossLeader83@reddit
I'm on reddit and I'm 52, and I don't give a flying chuff about that bunch of benefit scroungers living in state owned housing wearing the worlds most expensive hat.
Flag shaggers may care, but as far as I can tell most of my gen-x chums don't. It feels very silent generation and Boomer to care about what the whole inbred lot are doing.
Melonpan78@reddit
I mean, I'm Scottish generally speaking, we've never supported a monarchy. Remember that the UK isn't one country. It has absolutely nothing to do with one particular social media site, or one particular generation.
IAM_THE_LIZARD_QUEEN@reddit
The problem you're going to have asking this question is the kind of people that use Reddit generally don't give a single shit about him, and they think that means nobody else in the country does.
Consistent_Bird_9436@reddit
The majority don't.
rhrjruk@reddit
First rule of Fight Club.
It’s that simple.
foamingdogfever@reddit
We don't. We don't give a flying fuck about the royals.
Some-Air1274@reddit
Because he’s trying to have his cake and eat it. He wants all of the royal status whilst living 5,000 miles away.
Dartzap@reddit
You are allowing yourself to be absorbed by works of fiction written by people whose job it is to make you feel resentment towards others. As Sam Vimes once said: Follow the money.
The average or median Briton does not give them much thought beyond their mere existence.
leighb3ta@reddit
New flash: Most of us don’t give two hoots. It’s the media that perpetuates that lie
Good-Conclusion-9508@reddit
You’re right that it’s definitely not logical. There are lots of people that read certain newspapers and are all too ready to believe that Meghan Markle is a villain and Harry has betrayed his country. People love to talk about them like they know them, but no one really cares. The tabloids sell stories and people are happy to follow it but I think it’s more for entertainment purposes than any real emotion. Prince Andrew is obviously the one that can cause real issues for the family so always find it ironic that Harry is seen as the traitor.
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
Yes. And it’s also interesting that Harry and Meghan left pretty much as soon as the Andrew stuff started coming to light. I wouldn’t blame them at all from wanting to get away from a family that has clearly been protecting that disgusting man.
BarryBadrinath82@reddit
Most don't give a fuck.
Less_Enthusiasm5479@reddit
Most Brits couldn't care less. I would very gladly abolish the royal family because we'd make a lot more tourist money, if we could open up all the palaces for tours. I actually respect Harry and Meghan for nope-ing out of the UK, to go and be happy.
Bourbon_Cream_Dream@reddit
You're confusing the media making a big deal out of things for headlines with the general public not giving a fuck
ValidGarry@reddit
Great judgey and huge generalization post. Congratulations.
IainMCool@reddit
Do they? I think I speak for most of us, when I say I couldn't give less of a shit.
deckdeck555@reddit
The only people who care about this shit are insane Daily Mail readers and journalists.
rmvandink@reddit
And with Britons you mean The Telegraph?
LegsElevenses@reddit
Anything I see to do with Harry, the media, royals or “the late Queen” just reminds me how loathsome I find having a royal family to be and whilst I wish them all a nice life I would like to never hear about them again and abolish the concept all together.
sossighead@reddit
I don’t.
I do find him and his wife odd… retreated from public life for privacy to then engage in a load of money making publicity. Doesn’t make me mad in the slightest though.
Greatgrowler@reddit
The British press ≠ the British public. Some people will be bothered but I’m sure most will read about and not really care either way and many will not give enough shits to even read about it.
stevehyn@reddit
I don’t get mad, but I don’t think it’s really news worthy anymore.
When he does these types of interviews the news channels sometimes overreact and endlessly play it over as breaking news or take up lots of time talking about it.
He’s really not that important and Meghan less so.
dontChewTheCable@reddit
It's just a press illusion to avoid talking about the real issues like tax evasion and Andrew
FenianBastard847@reddit
I never read stories about the Windsor family. I simply don’t care. I favour a republic.
Swimming_Acadia6957@reddit
Like the majority of this kind of shite you see online 99% of people don't care but the 1% care very much and are very vocal about it. And a not insignificant amount of those 1% are even British or from a Commonwealth nation
ScottHansonSH@reddit
Tax dollars 🤔
Yummyteaperson@reddit (OP)
😂I’ll edit
ODFoxtrotOscar@reddit
By and large we don’t
Yes, chuntering on about the royal family is a national pastime, but you’re ascribing far too much emotion to it.
If you look at coverage over time - say from the 70s onwards (or possibly earlier) then you’ll see just how much opinions change depending on what the specific person does over time
PerfectRug@reddit
Not sure really. It would definitely be a generalisation to assume that all Brits get mad about it though, or that they even care. I personally have given no thought to this subject whatsoever haha. I don’t know any people in my life that have any interest in any of it. I know that some people will be upset by it (for whatever reason) but based on my own anecdotal experience maybe it’s not as widespread as media makes out.
SlimyBone@reddit
You nailed it in the first sentence, some people are childish. I don't know a single person that cares if the bloke is dead of alive, let alone what he says about relatives.
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