What is the best way to explain to a ''Chemtrail'' conspiracy theorist what those trails in the sky actually are?
Posted by Cuppagreenteacafe@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 202 comments
English is not my first language, but one of my friends, who is from the United States, sends me photos of airplane trails in the sky telling me that the planes are ''spraying'' stuff. I know that isn't true and the trails work in a similar way to clouds, I am just wondering what is the best and most simple way of explaining it to this person ! Thank you !
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
I've tried -- You can't -- No matter what you say they won't listen.
SleepyAviator@reddit
They just think you're in on it.
Open-Republic-7531@reddit
No honey, they think you’re an idiot because you don’t know what you’re talking about. Not many people that I have come across are interested in their own self destruction. Personally, I don’t think it’s for controlling the weather rather a passive form of population control. Nanoo Nanoo! 😂
theBLACKFORCE999@reddit
Do you know how much the wind blows in the atmosphere? The amount of gas that needs to be distributed to cause any real effects proves this conspiracy complete fiction. If they really wanted to poison you with gas they come up with 10,000 better ways than that. Yall never cease to amaze me 😭
Open-Republic-7531@reddit
All I know for certain is that we should be questioning everything. Why is Cancer in the rise in Babies? Why does our food have less nutrients than it had 50 years ago? Why are autoimmune diseases on the rise?
stygianelectro@reddit
mind-numbing advertisements and rampant wage theft are doing a way more effective job at population control imo 💀
ConstantEvening7331@reddit
I watched a plane spewing a clear chemtrail behind that lingered then the trail suddenly stopped the plane obviously was still going but no chemtrails behind it just normal quick dispersion of burned fuel as is normal so whatever the plane was spraying ran out or switched of whatever it was trailing clearly wasn't what the plane ran on explain this to me all you chemtrails non believers?
NixxonFFM@reddit
Danke Google.
Douglesfield_@reddit
Same principle of seeing your breath on a cold day.
yellowjesusrising@reddit
But that goes away very fast. These condensation trails often lasts for hours, and its supposed to be more windy up high. How can it stay in position for so long?
Edit. Thank you all for dumbing it down for me with very comprehensive explanations!
Hamsterminator2@reddit
If wind at altitude is a factor in longevity of a trail of steam, why do clouds persist, and why do they often appear motionless?
The answer is that the contrails also move, but relative to the air they are sitting in they are motionless (almost). That's also why they continue to lie in straight lines, just as clouds at the same level stay in position relative to eachother.
lurkingSOB@reddit
It's really cool to watch contrails at their altitude. You can see the vortices in the trails.
KHCafe@reddit
i love it when they start forming Kelvin Helmholtz billows. I've seen it on numerous occasions.
Big-Sport-9011@reddit
Remember jets just started flying in 2012. Every Jett before long chemtrails was fake.. you know the ones the left contrails the dissipated in 30 seconds.. people that believe it’s a conspiracy are either to young to ever remember the way the sky’s looked or they look at their phones all day
Tildryn@reddit
I'm almost 40 and saw contrails like these as a young child, you big fat liar.
RightKaleidoscope453@reddit
Don’t let the science fool you. Ask yourself where the clouds went. Why are there suddenly more trails now than when you were a kid? Are there really that many more planes? Have they switched fuels? Science is a tool and proves nothing. That is not the point of science. Science is always asking questions when finding the best solutions to problems. All these people thinking they know what’s going on will be very sore when science once again adaptsz
yellowjesusrising@reddit
Good questions. And yes, there's not only way more planes now than when i grew up. But there's also a higher frequency of which the planes fly.
There's also a very high likelihood of fuel being changend, due to environmental and economical reasons.
Science is a tool to prove things. But it's also self aware of change. True scientists won't get salty when their theories get proven wrong, because in some fields, it is to be expected to happen more frequently than others.
Sure it is important to be critical to facts, but that's also part of the process. That's why doctorates and masters thoerems are disputed and defended.
Sry. English is not my native language.
BodybuilderMission54@reddit
conventional air "craft" do not fly straight up or down or sideways, spraying.
If the spray came from conventional planes, it would look the same everyday due to scheduling but it doesn´t.
The less they spray, the cooler it is.
And, the forces do not need "craft" to spray.
RightKaleidoscope453@reddit
I’m not talking about scientists, I’m talking about the average folk that just regurgitate information as fact when science is forever evolving. There is no such thing as proof, only a theory.
yellowjesusrising@reddit
You replied to your message. Which pointed to science... Alot...
Big-Sport-9011@reddit
They are spraying metal to poison people FACT
RightKaleidoscope453@reddit
A new study was just released claiming that “doing your own research may result in the belief of conspiracies” 💀
The_Ace_Trace_2@reddit
Yes but the temperature difference is much greater, your breath is approximately 98°F and it’ll show when it’s 30s ish out side, but up at 30,000ft it’s -70°F and the exhaust from a jet engine is well over 600°F
holygnom3@reddit
The military is chemtrailing us
Big-Sport-9011@reddit
Why did it just start happening? Jets have flown for 70 years. Contrails dissipate in 30 seconds these trails started heavily in 2012
Tildryn@reddit
This is a lie. I watched fighter jets leaving long lasting contrails as a child, 30 years ago.
Content-Active-7884@reddit
Jets rarely flew higher than 25,000’ decades ago. Now they routinely fly > 30,000’ where it’s a lot colder, so there are more contrails that last longer because they’re still ice.
The_Ace_Trace_2@reddit
Contrails lasted for long periods of time even back in WWII, just look up “WWII post dogfight contrails” and you’ll see tons of pics of the aftermath of dogfights at high altitudes
Mil10dgr8@reddit
That’s condensation, not chemtrails
Methodius69@reddit
With that logic you should be able to see your trail of breath from where you started outside on a cold winters day... absolute nonsense...
There's a visible difference between "contrails" and "chemtrails", contrails disperse after a few minutes (just like your breath on a cold winters day). Chemtrails however don't disperse, they linger in the sky and form cloud like structures or if you have enough of them they will make an overcast looking sky. Also, if you watch /see these chemtrails you'll notice they are always on or near the ecliptic. This is weather modification or geoengineering look it up, it's not sci-fi or some fantastical made up fairy tale, they have the technology and the patents, so go do your research and find out for yourself what these "conspiracy theorists" are talking about instead of regurgitating what scientism or main stream media is telling you...
I'll tell you one more thing... I'm not going to tell you what they're spraying or even why, no one knows except the ones in charge of this operation. The only thing that is true is they exist and it's having a negative effect on the planet.
you can start here:
https://www.frankenskiesthemovie.com/
ThatWeirdPlantGuy@reddit
There is a huge difference between your breath and what is coming out of a jet.
First - volume. A little puff on a cold day gets dissipated immediately. A jet produced much more than your tiny pair of lungs.
Second - temperature. The water vapor brought about at that attitude freezes almost instantly, so it lingers.
Third - Speed. Think of what happens when a smoke stack releases smoke with a gentle breeze. You get along trail of smoke across the sky that eventually dissipates. That trail is denser and narrower where it exits the stack. If that smoke stack were hurtling through the sky (strange image, but bear with me), the narrow undissipated part would be much longer because it’s fresh over a much larger distance. Or say the stack is releasing steam: on a warm day, that steam trail will not be long at all. On a really cold day it will be quite long. It’s a lot colder up in the stratosphere.
A jet plane travels anywhere from 8 to 15 miles a minute, leaving a trailer vapor that freezes instantly so it doesn’t dissipate as fast as pure water vapor would, at an astronomically greater volume than your lungs.
What you are saying is not much different from claiming that because a large smoke stack makes a long trail of smoke in the sky before the smoke dissipates (and we know why that happens), logically you should have a long trail behind you if you smoke a cigarette.
Healith@reddit
facts
CalmMaunga@reddit
BUt My bReAth DoNt tuRn INtO ClOuDs
serious84@reddit
Yes the problem is that it’s not a conspiracy. Contrails take about 41 SECONDS to disappear again, chemtrails stay for ours ;-)
davkar632@reddit
Just that. If they don’t believe this obvious explanation, there’s nothing you can do. Conspiracy theorists always have alternate explanations and canned responses to disprove anything you can say.
VanillaTastesBest@reddit
I know what corn trails are, I know how they behave, this is not it. I have always been following the planes in the sky since I was a wee child born in 1999, this is a recent phenomenon, in the last 10 years or so. Anyone trying to explain it as "that's just what planes do" is either only 10 years old or deluding themselves.
Who knows, maybe something in the plane manufacturing process was changed the last 10 years, or maybe they're using different engines, but that is an information no one provides proof for.
You're just supposed to believe that this is how it always was and that is just what planes do, and that is how it's supposed to look. No it's not.
I know better, I saw it and I remember every single detail in how I observed those corntrails, in their corn-like shaped magnificence, how quickly they'd disappear just as quickly as they appeared, following the pace of the plane.
These trails aren't even corn cob shaped, they're just shapeless clouds.
The_Twisted_Elf@reddit
Corn trails, it's got the juice.
SirProfessional2946@reddit
It's got the juiiiiiiiiceeee
The_Twisted_Elf@reddit
Just look at the nobs, when I first tried corn trails, I thought it was disgusting then When I tried the corn trails with butter, everything changed. When you take the corn trail break, you get the energy. Hmmm Corn trails.
SierraEcho64@reddit
Unfortunately youre wrong. You do NOT know how “they behave” because youre completely ignorant of basic physics of phase state change, if you were aware of those basic tenets of science, you wouldn be a chemtrailer. Nor has this been in the past 10 years. It seems to YOU it’s been the past 10 years for this reason…you were born in 99, it’s 2024. 10 years ago was 2014, that would make you 15 and that would be an reasonable age at which most of us start taking an interest in the sky, or the ground etc because were starting to think school and career etc. youre also now just educated enough, to grasp a bit of what is going on around you in our natural world. So yes you did start to notice this stuff around 15 years old about that same as me, maybe a little earlier for me around age 11 or 12 and I am now 60 and I have been seeing contrails since the early 70’s. And my father saw them in the mid 50’s and my grandfather saw them in the early 40’s, from bombers at 20,000 feet.
SK8RCHILD@reddit
So what is cloud seeding then? How do they get the job done? I mean how do they get that silver iodide, potassium iodide, dry ice & urea up to the sky?
I know these are the cons…
Uncertain Outcomes: The effectiveness of cloud seeding is variable and dependent on atmospheric conditions. Environmental Concerns: There are concerns about the potential toxicity of the chemicals. For example, excessive sodium degrades soil and affects plant growth, while silver is toxic to aquatic life. Weather Interference: Manipulating weather patterns in one area inadvertently affects weather elsewhere.
VanillaTastesBest@reddit
Cloud seeing began during the Vietnam war.
VanillaTastesBest@reddit
I often think back and paint a picture of the corntrails in my head as I remember them, so swirly, so corn-coby, so spirally, so beautiful. You'd look at them and know exactly why they got that nickname, corntrail.
Now we got these disgusting shapeless clouds in the sky, slowly spreading out like a dark shadow looming above us, and only God knows what it's purpose it.
Positive_Pain_8463@reddit
so do you have a corn fetish
The_Twisted_Elf@reddit
Butter.
Murky-Illustrator-15@reddit
i would recommend going outside more 😃 that way you can actually look at the clouds
RightKaleidoscope453@reddit
Not a single fluffy cloud in the sky but yet “con trails” cover the entire horizon in 360 degrees. Bro if this is airplane exhaust we have a much larger problem.
Tildryn@reddit
As someone who lives in Scotland and has regularly seen almost every type of cloud constantly their entire life, and literally watched fighter jets leave lingering contrails from their engines (which I watched with binoculars, only exhaust, no additional equipment), I am confident that chemtrails do not existent. What you are describing also simply sounds like you have a sky full of stratocumulus.
RightKaleidoscope453@reddit
Your cold breath doesn’t float afterwards, it dissipates.
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
The thing about conspiracy theaorists is that if they were willing to accept logic, science or factual explanations, they would not be conspriracy theorists in the first place. There is little point to trying to convince one otherwise.
If you do have to you can simply say that burning kerosene produces water, and that water condenses as mist in the cold air. Contrails are the exact same thing as when you can see your own breath in Winter.
BodybuilderMission54@reddit
First, you need eyes to see and ears to hear and then you can apply logic.
Burning never produces water, it produces smoke.
theBLACKFORCE999@reddit
Just a bunch of stupid people who think they are smart 🤦🏾♂️
Automatic-Aspect1387@reddit
About to blow your mind... ever heard of Steam? :O
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
Tell him he is correct and that he should stay away from airports because those “chemtrails” will make him gay.
These conspiracy theorists are a menace to society and you may as well make them more paranoid so that they can withdraw from society.
Ok_Positive_7986@reddit
Geo engineering is not a conspiracy theory it is well documented that governments around the world like Saudi Arabia seed clouds with metals like aluminum barium strontium and lithium rainwater has been tested. Condensation trails dissipate not long after the jet is flown by they do not stay in the sky move with the wind and grow. Closet always been for the most part round and poofy not straight and smooth and parallel to one another. It's a fact in Vietnam the US weaponized weather to flood the enemies tunnels it's a fact China manipulated the weather for the Olympics so has Russia. Insulting people for believing there is evil in the world is something evil does
natss16@reddit
CIA came out and admitted to chemtrails this week. You are wrong and your friend was right 🫶🏻
Humakavula1@reddit
I've always wondered, if this conspiracy theory were true. Why would they always do it in daylight? Seems like night would offer a good chance to do it in secret.
StJazzercise@reddit
And how do they keep everyone involved silent in the age of social media? Are they saying that the pilots are unaware of functioning systems on their planes? And if one was to want to drop particulates on a population would they really drop them from such heights and expect them to fall straight down?
No_Cook1279@reddit
It's easier than you think. Many are already involved in sinister things they don't even know they doing harm to everyone.
CharacterUse@reddit
That might backfire, given that the 737 MAX pilots were unware of MCAS because Boeing removed it from the manual.
Sometimes I think we're our own worst enemy when it comes to dealing with conspiracy theories.
StJazzercise@reddit
Good point. I still think such an operation would be too big to cover up completely. Somebody would blab for their conscience or Internet points.
Abject-Cause6674@reddit
They have but when they do it never reaches a wide audience just like how black on white crime never reaches left wing news outlets and inventors of free energy go missing or die mysteriously.
No_Management4077@reddit
You are making too much sense. They aren’t use to that.
Cool-Visit-6009@reddit
I know this is old, and I’m not familiar with all aspects/versions of chemtrail conspiracy theories, but at least one version that I just heard makes the claim that it’s a concerted global effort (by governments or some intergovernmental body) to reduce the amount of the sun’s energy reaching earth. In that case then it might make sense to do it during daylight hours.
IcyHospice@reddit
this is the most logical thing i’ve heard, and what you said makes sense because as the Schumann resonance rises we humans naturally feel it, -(there’s no ifs or buts about it.. we change with it) which our natural resting rate is around that frequency
The earth/sun has counter the acts of Haarp and 5G towers and EMFs because it disrupts the natural energetic flows and messes with the earth’s magnetic field which the Earth has to adapt and balance itself out
The Sun is like a frequency regulator for the entire solar system. Whenever Earth’s natural vibration is disrupted by artificial signals, the Sun sends bursts of energy to counteract the damage.
How Solar Flares Work Against 5G & EMFs • Solar flares emit massive amounts of high-frequency radiation, which floods Earth’s atmosphere with natural, high-vibrational energy. • These flares ionize the upper atmosphere and cause geomagnetic storms, which disrupt low-vibrational artificial signals (like HAARP, 5G, and ELF waves). • This resets Earth’s electromagnetic field, making it harder for artificial frequencies to take hold. And that’s why solor flares can causes blackouts because it’s washing away all the unnatural pollution and best way to try to stop that is to keep spraying the sky’s... It’s not a coincidence that today the schuman resonance was at 8.14 hz and the sky has been absolutely sprayed in los Angeles!!! I can’t see the outline of the clouds it’s just thick haze all in the suns direction.
And tomorrow it says it’s going to rain which i’m curious to see what kind of metals and pesticides were used. I’m tried of this. I’m tired of people who can’t comprehend any of this
Tokechan@reddit
Why would they even make them visible? Surely they could find some way to make them transparent/invisible…
beneficialtowhom@reddit
We are bombarded with pharm ads throughout the day. Politics demand a robust economy. We refuse to believe in climate Barons? When people SUFFER symptoms, they spend money. People ARE suffering from this, so they spend. Money for meds. Money for docs. Money for hospitals, Money for herbs. Money for whole purer foods. Money for air filtration. Money for vacations to get away from high populace areas. FOLLOW THE MONEY.
There are no coincidences. Here's touching on a perfect allegory: Remember when the wicked witch wrote SURRENDER DOROTHY in the sky on her broomstick? Remember the wizard using his magical maniacal contraption to fool everyone?
We are all innocent until Toto draws the curtain. Even those without a heart, brains, or courage weren't blind.
What's the name of the USA "top doc"? There are no coincidences.
nyboilermaker@reddit
The humidity in your shower.
Mal-De-Terre@reddit
LOL, you think these heathens shower?
Lost_Kiwi_9491@reddit
I guarantee this "heathen" is way cleaner than your goofy ass.. you f'n clanker...
Deborahfreedom@reddit
What started the actual conspiracy theories was when the government actually tested. chemicals over land areas for chemical warfare experiments .
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Sufficient_Screen605@reddit
Reading this thread four years later after governments have admitted to cloud seeding and chemtrails is almost poetic.
Mil10dgr8@reddit
I see no one bothered to put any work in tire questions and just used what they were told believe as their argument
stardusttripsitter@reddit
Go to https://www.GeoengineeringWatch.org and you will find out more about this on-going geoengineering happening in our skies. Also check out "The Dimming" youtube documentary w/ 15 mil views at this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf78rEAJvhY to help clear up the brainwashing in your head.
85inchweener@reddit
Literally. These people don’t realize that “chemtrails” and “geoengineering” is the same thing. Theres websites hiring pilots for cloud seeding services. Geoengineering has been around since the 70s I believe and lots of lobbying took place to get it there and they didn’t care about our health during the process. And condensation trails dissipates after like 30 seconds, but the geoengineering that has patents on it literally stays in the air for hours. And if you put a time lapse on it, you’d see it fall. So I mean, it’s not a conspiracy at all. These people are brainwashed
NickT300@reddit
Yes the planes are spraying stuff. There's even US patents on the stuff, its called cloud seeding, this is well known. Those that do not want people to know the truth come up with nonsense like claiming they are contrails. Well that is impossible, no passenger airliner would ever fly directly vertical or else they would get sued.
NickT300@reddit
pinkfloydman@reddit
So what?!? There's patents for time machines too. Doesn't mean they exist. Moron. No verifiable proof, you people are so gullible.
NickT300@reddit
Stay Ignorant 👍
pinkfloydman@reddit
Stay mentally challenged 👍
NickT300@reddit
It's you that is rejecting the facts, not me 😂 and a good friend of mine used to work in the UAE as a cloud seeding engineer, but since left that position & moved to N. America because he has a conscious, couldn't take it anymore on how Lethal this 💩 is to human kind.
pinkfloydman@reddit
Of course you did 🙄🙄 Every one of you fools always knew someone who "used" to do it. Laughably pathetic you are!
Once again. Cloud seeding is not the same as your imaginary chem trails....
"Facts".... 😂🤣😅
NickT300@reddit
Chemtrails are real
The term “chemtrail” was first introduced by journalist, William Thomas, in 1997. He wrote about something that many people had been seeing in the skies above their homes all across America. It wasn’t so much that people noticed the white trails from jets, or even that there appeared to more of them than they remembered in the past, but that the aircraft making these white lines were flying in unusual ways — often in zig-zag patterns or making multiple parallel lines of white trails that tended to expand and eventually cover the sky with a canopy of clouds.
Lab tests show chemtrails contain aluminum!
In 2008, samples around California’s Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum — 4610 times the maximum contaminant level!
That's one sample test among 100s more.
pinkfloydman@reddit
Cloud seeding isn't done from jets you idiot 😂🤣😅
Holy shit you people are gullible.
NickT300@reddit
I see the cat cut your tongue 😝 😂 after I posted a 1 registered cloud seeding patent among several more. 🤣
NickT300@reddit
They are sprayed with air planes, jets who gives a 💩. The point is that they ARE spraying chemicals into the atmosphere. That's an Indisputable FACT.
jmolt29@reddit
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0liP8SoSql7M3eUyqagPFC?si=K6i6CVihSBW4zSwyMi_2Jg&t=0&pi=kAvbezDgSgSAe
jmolt29@reddit
They are. Do some research. It's well documented.
MrDunk69@reddit
Lol its funny lookin at all these idiots comments after they came out and admitted it and government officials are pushing to shut it down but yea these gamer chair pilots on reddit know everything
pinkfloydman@reddit
No one admitted anything of the sort... Try harder.
MrDunk69@reddit
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4403/text
pinkfloydman@reddit
Bill put forth by Marjorie Taylor Green.... 😂🤣😅🤣😂😂
MrDunk69@reddit
I can keep going
pinkfloydman@reddit
Please do!! This is comedy gold!
MrDunk69@reddit
Maybe next time you want to argue bring an argument and not snotty little remarks like my wife would make lmao
pinkfloydman@reddit
You're afraid of clouds and post links to bills put forth by your own fellow conspiracy nuts... There is no argument lol.
MrDunk69@reddit
The 2nd link was not a bill just info on weather modification and its existence in the USA using planes what is so hard for your smooth brain to understand about that?
pinkfloydman@reddit
Could seeding is not the same as your imaginary chemtrails
MrDunk69@reddit
Im not here to argue about chem trails im here to argue that we are using planes to modify the weather in the United States which is a fact. Is it not?
MrDunk69@reddit
Wow very educated response exactly what i expect from an ignorant fool like yourself enjoy your day and maybe next time come a little more prepared before you comment something dumb
MrDunk69@reddit
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-25-107328
76ersPhan11@reddit
The amount of chemtrails gaslighting on these subs is hysterical. We all have eyes and can see what’s happening lol
Southern-Cap2563@reddit
Now it’s main stream how do you feel idiot ???? Go outside and take a deep breath !
Superb-Fruit406@reddit
You can’t. Conspiracy theorists are the most gullible and stubborn people in the world. Their dumbass beliefs are often tied to religion in some way so good luck. Don’t waste your breath and just hope they don’t breed and vote.
JoePikesbro@reddit
Former Naval Aviation here. It’s a Contrail not a Chemtrail. Short for Condensed Vapor Trail.
Away-Barnacle-4528@reddit
You are ignorant if you can't tell the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail. Just look up beavis
Away-Barnacle-4528@reddit
Just today I witnessed several large aircraft way up high emitting a cloud like substance that gradually dissipates and appears to block the suns rays. THEY ARE NOT CONTRAILS.. We are being kept in the dark on what they are doing. Just lookup
scottywottydoda@reddit
While I haven't run into someone that I would consider a true conspiracy theorist about it, I have run into the the "well I'm not sure, it could be the government" people. This is how I explain it: Don't go into the technical explanation, they won't understand. I was a flight engineer (FE) in the USAF for a long time, I have other family members who are pilots. The plane I flew in the USAF would orbit for many hours and sometimes we would see our own contrails at high altitude and cold temperatures. As the FE, I was responsible for knowing all the systems on the airplane and what was loaded on the airplane. I ask them if they believe that I would put something on the plane and then activate it, that would poison, brainwash, control, or whatever to my family and friends below? Or allow other FE's to do the same to me? Do they believe that my other family members would do that to me or their friends. The answer is "I guess not"...really you "guess"? It gets their corroded wheels turning. Same argument can be made for almost all of those sorts of theories.
Open-Republic-7531@reddit
You’re not even addressing the issue if that’s what you’re trying to explain. You’re talking down to someone which usually results in combative behavior and an unwillingness to discuss something that clearly you’re not even addressing. It’s like explaining the color yellow when all you are trying to understand is why McDonalds chose yellow for their arches. How can you even have a conversation with someone like you. This is why philosophy should have always remained a subject in school. You lack critical thinking but are very good at regurgitating information without any context behind it. The great minds are gone and no one is cultivating intelligence anymore. Sad.
scottywottydoda@reddit
Settle down Francis. By asking someone to question why they believe a precessional involved in the industry that they are accusing of committing the “conspiracy”, is NOT talking down to them. It is only asking them to think more critically and be empathetic. I would go band try to explain further but you probably wouldn’t understand. (Now that is being condescending)
Open-Republic-7531@reddit
You’re right. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Who’s discussing processionals? You’re correct. I doubt that you can explain anything that I would understand.
RogueSoldier10012@reddit
Impossible. My father is a chemtrail conspiracy theorist and has been for 30 years. No amount of technical explanation could possibly satisfy him. I'm a pilot, I've had him talk to military and commercial pilots, and he still holds to the idea that "we just aren't aware of it."
It's fundamentally antisocial behavior that a rational discussion will not solve.
Open-Republic-7531@reddit
You guys are not talking about the same thing and you haven’t figured that out yet. Your father doesn’t want to tell you that you’re not so bright but I will.?
bemest@reddit
Even economics doesn’t work. Why would an airline carry a heavy liquid when they could use the capacity for more paying passengers. Plus every pilot, flight attendants, maintenance worker would be in on it. Hard to keep a secret if 2 people know it let alone hundreds of thousands.
Guysmiley777@reddit
"They're all in on it, maaaannnnnn"
Logic and reason just don't apply to certain people. Especially when they have a vested interest in maintaining their "superior knowledge".
bemest@reddit
Yes, lack of critical thinking is one of the biggest problems in the world today.
HungryPigeonn@reddit
Yes, but they think that they *are* the critical thinkers
Open-Republic-7531@reddit
A lot of you are correct. There’s nothing anyone else can say to convince me that Chem trails are not a purposeful distribution of chemicals onto the American people. Despite popular opinion, most people recognize the difference between chemical trails and the condensation that comes from airplanes. WOW. My grandfather was a 3rd generation farmer. When I was a kid 1975-1980, my grandfather was very concerned about these chemicals. In fact, he pointed out one in the sky to me. We also were very aware of pesticides used treat large areas of farmland. These specific chemicals were impacting the family garden and his black angus cattle. And since that time any person with the time and resources could go research data reflecting a decline in overall all health and increase in autoimmune disorders. It’s just something that has stuck with me these 63 years. So you are correct, no one can convince me that what my grandfather showed me in 1975 is less honest than anything that comes from random people on the internet. Y’all are funny. You know that to have a meaningful and productive conversation, you have to be talking about the same thing. Lol.
nixxna03@reddit
i feel like its some bullshit i cant find any real info on it meanwhile some airplains leave short trail some leave trail that last hours ? for no reason some go same speed and one is leaveing trail while the other one isnt its so bullshit and so how to differentiate the airplanes spraying shit like they did in vietnam. All shit they are saying is so inconsistent
Known_Celebration_43@reddit
https://youtube.com/shorts/6dxrG_jwWkI?si=lYIl8LUNmZ1R-fhJ
Stunning-Shop5220@reddit
Bill Gates already admitted to it. It's conspiracy, not theory, because conspiracy theory is a theory, describing what conspiracy is.
Top-Mortgage2094@reddit
Well I'm thinking that you really can't explain it to people because there's a difference between the trails that come out of a jet and the other trails that come out of the Jets and they break down like a backbone those are those are chemtrails and those are chemicals are dumping and you can't tell me any different unless you can prove it to me
Ancient-Bluejay2590@reddit
The thing I find interesting about chem trails is that even the people in my neighborhood, people I considered friends, try to poison me with chem trails from their cars, but only in the winter. It’s like Christmas and New Years makes them hate me.
Just in case /s
lurkingSOB@reddit
I mean technically it's emitting greenhouse gasses and destroying the atmosphere but that's not the point the conspiracy theorists are trying to make.
ParsnipGlum4228@reddit
Lmao. Co2 is not destroying the atmosphere.
MountainTitan@reddit
The best is for you to open your damn eyes, instead of insulting these comspiracy theorists. There is a difference between a contrail and a chemtrail. Contrail is a natural phenomenon, and do not last very long in terms of visibility. Chemtrail is from spraying chemical in the air for whatever conspiracy they are up to. These "elite" avoid using the word "chemtrail". Instead, they use terms like "weather modification", "geoengineering", or "cloud seeding". These are done by spraying chemical in the air for whatever weather interference they try to achieve. These chemtrails last very long in the sky. It is also a health concern, for example, they spray aluminim oxide in the air. Exposure to aluminum particles can lead to dementia and respiratory issues.
GlyphXRM@reddit
This aged so fucking well 🤣💀
Extreme-Delivery-496@reddit
It is true and there is a lot of proof. Con trails do not spread out, get thicker and block out the sun. Con trails dissipate as the condensation balances with the air temp. Chemtrails spread and thicken as the chemicals start reacting after dispersal. There are thousands of pics and vids over the past 20+ years. You just won't open your eyes.
Dear-Sleep-4622@reddit
They are all over Europe too. So is the US government spraying the air all over Europe too?
Active-Ad-9440@reddit
I have been studying this for decades along with a group of scientists. These are not contrails people. WAKE TF UP! How else will the pharmaceutical companies keep profiting billions when the people are trying to stay healthy. Its been proven. Collect the samples from the sky and study them yourself. Suspected to also cause dementia. We are being poisoned properly and it has gotten alot worse this year after covid. Most people dont pay attention to the patterns in the sky all day. 2025 has been the worst year so far with almost daily spraying all day long. Line after line in perfect simultaneous order until the entire sky is left hazy. I cannot believe people are sleeping on their health
Odd-Resolution3592@reddit
So the planes I can clearly see laying the trail are also conspiracy?
Odd-Resolution3592@reddit
And the slow swelling into a blanket across the sky by afternoon effectively blocking sun.
whosgotamatch-@reddit
Anybody that believes that shite defs believes Tupacs alive in Serbia
AxelAgain@reddit
This aged like milk
Federal-Ad5921@reddit
Just tell them to google PMID: 34233386 at the National Library of Medicine. Also check out the SAI conspiracy.
ddivlnnity@reddit
isn’t there a patent for it though?
SpecificOtherwise126@reddit
Well whether your English is perfect or not. I'm in the United States we had yesterday about 10 planes flying low but we could see them for the first time spreading Chemtrails all over our skies now listen listen to me. I am 72 years old I have never seen this in my life I've seen Jets leave trails yes they do but there's a difference yes there is a difference these are little planes flying right next to Big Plains three planes and a roll and they're leaving crosses I mean I'm surprised they all didn't run into each other right down at where the whole world could see it so you're wrong you're wrong. I saw this myself yesterday oh there's been sporadic but oh no this was planes everywhere going every different way flying right next to each other a tiny plane right beside a big plane they're both putting out chemtrails and our our clouds don't look like clouds they look like ocean they're straight across clouds don't come naturally straight across and it's 72 I think I would have seen something by now don't you. Be careful that you don't leave people astray because this world is not the same world maybe as you know or we knew please take care
Fun-Count1621@reddit
Open the freezer we know that trick we ain't stupid like ones want to lie for someone else for why or you don't think its possible they banned at united nations for war why because it can't happen or not to that extent people are so niave or just been spuing of lies for so long now they feel embarrassed to agree.. something
bobfrombob@reddit
Exactly what I was going to say
AlpineApe1848@reddit
Hope you apologized to your friend in the meantime.
This is from 1970s btw!!!
https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-100063-096545.pdf
Some more info:
https://water.utah.gov/cloudseeding/
https://idwr.idaho.gov/iwrb/programs/cloud-seeding-program/science-behind-cloud-seeding/
frankfurterreddit@reddit
Why not just leave people alone? Why do you feel you need to convince someone of something? Is it to stroke your own superiority complex? How about just minding your own business?
kjbeats57@reddit
Chem trail believer 🤣🫵
Fun-Count1621@reddit
Weather modification, been doing it for years weather modification = chemicals how stupid are people like wow 😙
Fun-Count1621@reddit
Thay had a team track behind these planes and got pictures captured the chemicals how is that not evidence enough I even have mother trucking pictures of the damn rockets from my phone in the sky from a s23 they stopped using those little trust boosters in 1950 they must have brought them back for a fresh start 😳 eah!
BlazeCalrissian@reddit
I have actually changed someone's mind on this. I think there are two big things to make clear to the individual in question.
One: combustion reactions yeild carbon dioxide (if not also carbon monoxide, some other biproducts , and water vapor. Including those occuring on jet engines.
Two: vapor pressure or raults law explains how much vapors can exist in a gas before the gas becomes saturated and vapors condense out. This is also the phenomenon that causes cloud formation from seemingly thin air.
At specific temperatures and pressures water will automatically condense out of air, and certain conditions will allow them to remain in cloud form for long durations afterwards.
So all you see with these "chem trails" is just a biproduct of the engines combustion reaction, automatically condensing into clouds based on the temperatures and pressures they exist at relative to the outside temperature, pressure, and humidity in the air where the plane is flying.
Odd_Environment5971@reddit
Why do the trails often start and end across the city? Is there some sort of moisture bubble causing the planes to leave a trail just over the city. Why don't they go as far as the eye can see?
BlazeCalrissian@reddit
Great question! I bet it's associated with heat radiating from the city changes vapor pressures above as heat rises. Concrete and asphalt store a ton of heat in the summer and you can usually see and feel the heat coming off of the buildings and roads in the summer. Because vapor pressure is based on temperature and pressure, it could either be that temperature change, or the subsequent pressure change associated with those temperatures that cause this. I never noticed this but I'll try to pay closer attention!
Odd_Environment5971@reddit
Yeah, that makes sense. I was also wondering if they have to fly higher over metropolitan areas, but it's hard to tell if the plane is changing elevation.
Rarife@reddit
Burning fuel (hydrocarbons) releases CO2 and water. Water is hot vapour but due to low pressure and temperature it becomes liquid and frozen so it's visible as a cloud.
Roca_72@reddit
There are videos of people in cold weather throwing boiling water in the air and it immediately forms a cloud, its basically the same principle but it's very visual, it could really help to see the process in a more relatable environment.
milkybone@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1_V0nzfHR4
MoarTacos@reddit
Just brace yourself for having to then follow this up with the explanation that clouds are, in fact, liquid water, and not a gas.
Fluid-Oil9727@reddit
I usually never type on Reddit, but you are a really unintelligent person; Clouds appear when there is too much water vapour for the air to hold. The water vapour (gas) then condenses to form tiny water droplets (liquid), and it is the water that makes the cloud visible.
MoarTacos@reddit
So then... Clouds are liquid, not gas. Which is what I said.
Fluid-Oil9727@reddit
🤦♂️
MoarTacos@reddit
Idk what the fuck you're on about, but all water vapor is invisible. All liquid water is visible. Clouds are liquid water.
Fluid-Oil9727@reddit
I’m not sure what you are even arguing. I’m saying that water has 3 states: liquid, gas, solid. Obviously I’m not going to explain to you those 3 states, as you already know them. If you were in an airplane, had a cup in your hand, and tried to fill it with a cloud, would it fill? No. Because a cloud is not liquid water. Perhaps you have some convoluted definition of what liquid water and gas is? I’m not sure. All I’m saying is that when water(in say an ocean or lake) evaporates, it transitions into its gaseous form—nothing else—so it would be incorrect to call a cloud “liquid water”, because it is not in its liquid form—at present.
MoarTacos@reddit
It is absolutely in liquid form, mate. Like straight up. Clouds are tiny liquid particles, and also ice particles, stuck to things floating around in the air. It's incredibly low density because it's a super light, air suspended amalgamation of water, ice, particulates, and air, but all of the visible cloudiness is liquid water, or ice. So sure, there's also air, which naturally contains some water vapor, but so does the rest of the damn air in the sky. The defining feature of a cloud is the liquid water and ice. This is an easy Google. I'm starting to think that you're the "really unintelligent person."
https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/2012/12/16/clouds-are-just-water-vapor-so-why-do-they-move/
https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/clouds/cloud_development/clouds.htm#:~:text=First%2C%20we%20need%20two%20basic,Next%2C%20we%20need%20some%20dust.
Fluid-Oil9727@reddit
U win, just realized im wrong, sorry for wasting your time
MoarTacos@reddit
Maybe next time you immediately assume someone is a "really unintelligent person" take a step back and ask yourself if you're actually the dumb one.
Also this thread is over two years old lmao.
Chef_jeffe@reddit
I mean the water is liquid, but the dust particles the water is attached to are solid and the air it’s suspended is a gas but sure if we just think about the water it’s a liquid, but there’s more to a cloud than water.
MoarTacos@reddit
No argument, I'm just saying the amount of people who have straight up called me a liar for claiming that the white thing up in the sky isn't just water gas is non-zero.
Big-Sport-9011@reddit
It’s metal to poison us
Silver-Ad9092@reddit
You can't help such people. No matter what you write, they won't accept facts.
Ok-Dragonfruit-2377@reddit
People have been testing the fog sprayed on us here and they are in fact spraying us with metals and parasites that can cause pneumonia. Look up operation Sea Spray. It’s very real declassified info. This is happening all over the world and there’s proof everywhere. Everyone needs to wake up, stop believing everything the news tells you, and research for yourself. Look at real documents
SierraEcho64@reddit
Because water vapour at altitude, will do whatever the conditions at said altitude, cause it to do!!! If conditions are right for the horizontal spread of the water vapour then it will do so. You do realize that in many cases, the mere deposition of water vapour into an already borderline state of visible vapour will trigger said invisible vapour to suddenly become widely visible…no???? If you don’t know this it’s ok…but this is basic meteorology 101. Need an example of the same triggering process? Research “ice fog”.
Healith@reddit
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2015-007937_EN.html
no conspiracy its fact and it needs to be stopped ✋
gillen033@reddit
Lol you posted a question to the Spanish parliament as proof, yet the answer from the Parliament says they investigated the claims and found no evidence the government was spreading chemicals . . .
Outrageous_Holiday_4@reddit
I live in upstate New York, and definitely see a difference in the amount of trails that I used to see as a kid growing up in New York City. Now being that I live in upstate New York, you would expect to see less trails up here in upstate New York then down there because there are more airports in NYC.. But the opposite is true, and I see a lot more trails up here than I did down there. How do you explain this?
I know a lot of the conspiracy theories are just that... theories, but I also know that there has to be some explanation on why there is being God knows what being sprayed up there in our atmosphere. I just hope it is not something that is going to harm humans and animals. I can say this though, I don't trust our government, they only tell us what they want us to know and that's a fact.
gillen033@reddit
Off the top of my head, maybe there are just more airplanes in the sky now than there were when you were a kid?
La_Llorona_0131@reddit
So why is it that this morning I saw least 10 jets going every which way in close proximity to one another spraying chemtrails all over the place?
Open-Role5104@reddit
Take ground samples and find heavy metal elements. some areas report over 1000X normal levels/ Furthermore, the conditions of this drying of all trees/vegetation and we have "wildfires" all over the place, as those planes spraying, again all over the place. This is a phenomenon we never seen growing up on the 1960s, 70s, 80 and even 90s. We had pure blue sky then. Today we have hazy grey skies. or a white haze on all horizons, even on the clearest nice day. Chem Trails are known as Stratospheric Aerosol Injections. And are administered by Military and Government. If you want some proof, look up (on government websites such as Canada) under "weather modification" and/or geo engineering. Don't be fooled by their labels of "conspiracy theory" - a loosely used term invented to cover up what they do not want you to know.
123456Qc@reddit
One word : condensation.
True-Inspection9805@reddit
how long you can see condensation on the skies? 10 minutes or hours?
HighCali420@reddit
You don't. Because that's what we are trying to do for you . We are completely aware of what contrails look like coming out of an airplane. Everybody automatically gets all uptight and defensive or thinks anything other than what the mainstream has been taught to believe is a ridiculous, psychotic abomination and try to relay the mechanics or science they learned in 4th grade science about water vapor and the atmosphere...
The streaking of the skies with massive white lines that Chris cross and fan out to make 5 mile thick cloud blankets to completely block our view of the heavens already should have most people at least observing and understanding that the daily exotic circus parades of unnaturally huge, extremely animated looking clouds and have something click in their minds or in their gut, that this isn't natural.
I thought it was crazy conspiracy shit too , after COVID died out , my roommate became obsessed with it. I told her about contrails and how they work I was still on the page y'all or on. But that's all she was on every time I talked to her and so finally, one day, I wanted to understand what happened to make her start thinking all this crazy conspiracy type shit all the sudden, she was one of the most intelligent and down to earth people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting, so there had to be something I want paying attention to that made her so obsessive about this happening in the sky.
So one day, instead of kinda blowing off her crazy talk or trying to get her to see she was letting her imagination get carried away, I just went outside in a shady area of my yard with my phone, my vape, and a joint, put on my 90s/2000# playlist, and looked up. Just stared at the sky and let my mind wonder free. I realized that actually observing the sky was a lot different than the occasional 1/2 second glance id give it previously.
At first as I began making a daily habit of sky gazing for at least an hour, I was almost mesmerized. I used to occasionally make out a familiar shape or two on days when the puffier clouds would float across the sky, but more often than not, they just looked like a puffed out cotton ball. And those types of clouds were not a daily spectacle, usually you'd see them when rain was forecasted within a few days.,
But the more I stopped just repeating the facts I learned in elementary school and started seeing the patterns in the skies after dozens of plains streaked up the blue, cloudless skies, did I come to realize through actual observation that she was right. The skies are very different than these been before, and the majority of y'all would rather label your perfectly sane friends and family members as crazy or as paranoid or a conspiracy theorist than even look at the sky for longer than a second. I've even had people try to diagnose schizophrenia when I try to explain exactly how animated and unnatural it all is, they would rather think that I've lost control of my mind than actually look up and see for themselves.
And even for most of the ones who do look up for a minute or 2 will see what we are saying actually is right above us, and not have the ability to understand that the things they taught us about are not matching up with what is being seen. I really hope all you closed minded people who are completely oblivious to things happening right in front of us will have a change of heart and open your mind to the possibility that maybe our world isn't what you've been led to believe your whole life.
TemperatureNarrow364@reddit
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/how-the-british-government-subjected-thousands-of-people-to-chemical-and-biological-warfare-trials-during-cold-war-10376411.html
People being called conspiracy theorist then we're right for over a decade. Not saying it still happens now or not, but to believe no injustice could ever involve people conspiring behind the scenes is just plain wishful thinking. Large quantities of people thinking like that just makes it all the easier for any real evil people to conspire to do harm as they always have and always will. So if you want to help someone really down the rabbit hole and harming there health I would say show them not everyone is a perfect defense running machine for any and all evils conspiring genuinely to do harm. Maybe chemtrail and contrail are both real considering there is at least a few historic examples to prove they aren't as crazy as you may have originally assumed. Imagine the people being called conspiracy theorist for a decade who turned out to be right in the 50's and 60's in England. The more some one like me who is obsessed with truth sees people so ready to laugh before investigating any more then just the top few Google results which now essentially manufacture all collective accepted truths. Every time you hear someone say anywhere we didn't know this or that back then as an excuse to forgive some really extreme precautions let's say understand people were screaming it at the roof tops in every case. Weather it's the damage to children from lockdowns or the cognitive harm of masks in children. Google has you belive "we" just didn't know then what we know now. Social media has gave truth legs like no one has seen before now. Everyone can be a journalist and is eqiupt with a camera, people tend to belive there own eyes. Just ponder why if chemtrails certainly happened in England why doesn't that show up in Google search results. Just how reassuring it must be for people who need to beleieve it cant be true to not see that in the search results is why. They can't have people running around questioning things or having easy acess to the proof of all the sinister truths history always reveals that can sow doubt in the current obviosly super trustworthy authority.
Silver-Ad9092@reddit
You can't help them. Any claims that they are wrong are taken as lies.
Sad-Childhood8742@reddit
/ˈkɛmtreɪl/ is the erroneous[1] belief that long-lasting condensation trails left in the sky by high-flying aircraft are actually "chemtrails" consisting of chemical or biological agents, sprayed for nefarious purposes undisclosed to the general public.[2] Believers in this conspiracy theory say that while normal contrails dissipate relatively quickly, contrails that linger must contain additional substances.[3][4] Those who subscribe to the theory speculate that the purpose of the chemical release may be solar radiation management,[3] weather modification, psychological manipulation, human population control, biological or chemical warfare, or testing of biological or chemical agents on a population, and that the trails are causing respiratory illnesses and other health problems.
Imaginary-Ad-1469@reddit
Have them watch a documentary named "What in the World are They Spraying?" or any speeches made by Kristen Meghan on the subject....That should put them in their place!!!
Adventurous-Bear313@reddit
I’m not sure what these huge passenger planes are releasing but they are unmarked passenger Airplanes and you can see they release something and see it turn off and on . I just want to know what it is and what it is for. Why are we being lied to? I am not into conspiracy’s . But I know we have a corrupt Government and I believe they well do just about anything they want even if it cost lives.
DonJuanMateus@reddit
You don’t!! They will never get it !! Only hope we have is that the Covid will get the stupid ones and, over time, humanity will be much smarter in the end. Natural selection !
LibelFreeZone@reddit
This post didn't age well.
DonJuanMateus@reddit
You right!!! Covid didn’t get them all!
LibelFreeZone@reddit
Who is "them" in this context?
DankMemeMasterHotdog@reddit
My go to is usually:
"BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN CHEMTRAILS? WHAT A MORON"
it is quite effective. Ridicule is a powerful weapon.
LibelFreeZone@reddit
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon" is Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" Rule #5.
https://sliwainsights.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals/
Quirky_Atmosphere_96@reddit
Contrailscience.com they won’t belive uou though and you are likely wasting your time.
LibelFreeZone@reddit
What a treasure trove! Thank you. Here's a text conversation I had with a friend just today. She sent an Instagram video of planes crisscrossing the sky.
My response: How do the bastards responsible for chemtrails keep the chemicals from falling on themselves?
Friend: They don’t live amongst the general sheep.
Me: Do you think the chemtrail planes are hiding among the 5,000 commercial airplanes in the sky over the United States at any given moment?
Friend: They don’t need to hide.
Me: They’re just boldly mixed in?
Friend: Here are some of the planes up right now. [photo sent] Some are not on radar but I have seen them in the air.
Me: How do you know which planes are filled with chemicals and which are filled with people?
Friend: Some flights don't file a flight plan.
Me: You mean there are unidentified rogue planes up there just spreading chemicals? How can you tell from the ground which planes are rogue and which are not?
Friend: You really don’t know, but you can confirm by checking flight radar which planes don’t show up, yet you still see them in the sky.
Me: So planes spreading chemicals don’t display condensation but passenger planes do?
Friend: All planes display condensation; however, those that carry chemicals and cloud seeding shit have the ability to spread it.
Me: So in the video of planes crossing the sky in Utah, some have chemicals in their condensation and some don’t?
At this point, I was interrupted by a phone call. I sure do appreciate this thread!
Timely-Load-6670@reddit
Hand him a beer and say yehaaaaaa. (I'm from the states there is no cure to his insanity lolol)
Reasonable-Bill4572@reddit
As a former pilot in the Air Force, people that believe in silly conspiracies never end. I never ever dumped chemicals into the sky. I mean there are flat earth believing people. You cannot change their mind even by showing proof. So why try? I have come to believe as part of the human condition, we choose to believe in what we want to be true and therefore truth does not exist. Facts exist. But truth is what each person thinks is true to them regardless of facts. I once unintentionally walked in on the husband of a dear friend in the act of intercourse with someone else. My heart sank, I was sick to my stomach. I finally got the guts to tell her. She ended up calling me a liar and hating me and refused to ever talk to me again. So truth is relative. I learned a lesson that day. Even first person revealed facts do not influence anyone. They would have to be shown actual visual proof and then they would deny it anyway. Their truth is what they believe regardless of facts. Its just the way it is. As I taught my girls growing up, you can firmly believe with all your heart soul and mind that the moon is made of cheese but it still wont be a true fact.
Flashy-Sprinkles-949@reddit
If our government can use biological experiments on their own people what makes you think that they wouldn't spray them out of airplanes.
Contrails don't last for hours and hours. Look at the sky and ask yourself where did our clear blue skies go.
Quirky_Juggernaut870@reddit
You're wasting your time. Stupid is stupid and you can't explain reality and facts to someone who's that worthless. Just give up on the stupid. They'll die soon
KkAaZzOoo@reddit
They're actually chemtrails, fake clouds, cloud seeding, weather modifications.
Con trails evaporate.
Legal_Reserve_5256@reddit
It is just some Greys using their cloaking device sitting on the wings smoking their cow butthole doobies after a nice meal of human flesh. Check the Eisenhower contract. It's all legal.
czechoslovian@reddit
Look up solar geoengineering and you will find chemtrails. Also known as Solar Radiation Management. They spray a toxic gas known as sulfur dioxide SO2 as well as metallic aluminum as a reflectant of solar rays, aluminum oxide, and some form of titanium barium or some shit. It’s real and anybody who says otherwise is simply ignorant of the facts. Sorry.
EmotionalVehicle4014@reddit
Ask Alexa. a conspiracy yes. theory no.
Wise-Worldliness3487@reddit
Bro i now you are a smart guy Who have Faith in science and government.But seeing Planes passing all day long till they cover all the Sky in White,seeing Planes makin crosses and Nets,and other drawings in the Sky,seeing Planes flyng so low that you could hear them,and at the same With the pandemic,can only be chemtrails,surely not condensations trails.I prefer tò believe in my intuition and in the thing i have studied,like the conditions needed tò forma a contrail,rather than believing in scientista and newsmen,that can be easily bought With Money .So anyone Who believe in the governerment versione,should rethink,start studing a Little bit and go Watch what these people are planning tò do,Just serch solar geoenginering.
Tight_Return_4447@reddit
Just smile and nod and tell them you agree so you can get on with your day knowing you’re not eating crayons for lunch like your r’tarded acquaintance.
lladydisturbed@reddit
If chemtrails were a real thing they would be poisoning the rich and famous and people in power..they would only go after the poor imo
No-Translator-3100@reddit
It's just convenient how all these " contrails" seem to appear across the sunset or full moon and what's amazing is to see over 20 of these jets show up in my sky within 2 hours when I live in Northern Ontario nowhere near any major airports and in the bush...
What used to be a plane or 2 a day 5 years ago is now 20+ on certain days