Fury as Texans say they were given 'no warning' ahead of devastating tornado that tore down buildings and left hundreds of thousands still without power
Posted by chesterriley@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 239 comments
Icy_Sherbert_6237@reddit
Lived here all 36 years of my life. Texans gotta be the dumbest people in America.
Icy_Sherbert_6237@reddit
I say this as I'm listening to 2 dudes have a gunfight, a few blocks over, while I'm at work.
Traditional-Hall-591@reddit
Sounds like your average day in any major city.
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Icy_Sherbert_6237@reddit
Well, after like 60 rounds it seems someone won.
SoUnga88@reddit
Damn bro, that’s a straight up fire fight.
AbroadUsual6250@reddit
Sounds a little… unbelievable? How does this user know that there are specifically 2 guys a few blocks away in a gunfight? Don’t get me wrong - I know there are frequent shootings, but 60 rounds? These details sound a little questionable…
Icy_Sherbert_6237@reddit
They've been going at it longer than the post. Im actually amazed I haven't heard the cops. It was near the samuel/bucket intersection if you want to sleuth
radarksu@reddit
Checks out.
Lonely_Category_7658@reddit
Samuel/Buckner
radarksu@reddit
I knew what you meant. The neighborhoods around that area are okay-ish but the old motels and run-down apartments are the source of most of the issues.
It's not really a north or south of I-30 thing in that area. It's a "how close are you to the freeway" issue.
Suitable-Olive7844@reddit
Looking for the news of this so-called "firefight" ...... Have yet to be able to pick something up from any news source.
And please, we all have the brain capacity to know that something like 60 rounds being shot will be all over the news.
SYNtechp90@reddit
You know most stuff doesn't go on the news, right? Most news brands are also entertainment networks as well, very few are considered news networks anymore.
AbroadUsual6250@reddit
Welp, it looks like I might have to eat my words of total skepticism. Can’t confirm the number of shots or the number of people involved, but the location and time do match with an incident reported roughly 3 miles from that intersection:
Incident: 25-1905833 Nature: 6G - Random Gun Fire Location: Piedmont Dr & N Jim Miller Rd, Dallas, TX 75227 Time: 2025-10-26 00:56:04 Closed: 2025-10-26 01:28 Units at scene: 1 Priority: 3 / Beat: 321
https://police.robert-steinbach.com/history
Latter_Gazelle_5588@reddit
I wonder if /u/suitable-olive-7488 has anything else to say.
Old_Bathroom_6258@reddit
Thats bullshit and you know it.
lhxtx@reddit
In south Dallas? Might show up on the news like 3 days later.
Fauceteye@reddit
Electrician here, a few years back working on outside strip mall lights next to a grocery store which I can't remember its name now. Car pulls up to the front, 2 dudes get out with guns and run in the store. Boss looked at me, we grabbed our one ladder thankfully, and were fucking gone. Don't know what happened inside.
Robot_Alchemist@reddit
Sounds like fireworks
ohhhhshebadddd@reddit
You live in South Dallas.. you may have to move to central Dallas.. but if you’re a homeowner it’s probably a lot harder to just up and move
SipoteQuixote@reddit
That area, made me go oh yup.
masterap85@reddit
Just look at profile
AnxiousDwarf@reddit
Dude, that's Homelander.
TexDubya@reddit
Texas was a great place until Hurricane Katrina...
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blackgandalff@reddit
Ah yes, Texas famously had no black peoples until September 2005.
Texas is a joke tbh. The leadership is openly corrupt and untruthful. Ken Paxton and Dan Patrick are two of the most repugnant men I’ve ever had the displeasure of hearing speak.
Confident_Stand_6487@reddit
Yep. We know what this dude is trying to get at.... It's almost like they sit and wait just to post something like that to get it off their chest. Leave, isn't that what y'all usually say if you don't like it?
ladybirdjunebug@reddit
We’re in the same neighborhood? 😂
NiKoDaemous@reddit
Or ran out of ammo and moved to sticks.
GoodQueenFluffenChop@reddit
I don't know I think Oklahoma still has us beat in that department.
Durbee@reddit
They tried to outlaw the wearing of hoodies. No, seriously.
Elbynerual@reddit
And make the Bible the state book
Careless-Resource-72@reddit
Which version? 🤪
Tintoverde@reddit
Trump’s version
idiotsbydesign@reddit
Wish this was a joke but its true. Trumps Bible was the only one that "met" all of the requirements they laid out. You can buy bibles in bulk for cheap but they paid around $65/ea for Trumps.
stringpicker420@reddit
Trump version, literally true, this can't even be made up. Made in China btw 🤣
Pure-Breath-6885@reddit
Whichever version is the whitest
BABarracus@reddit
Doesn't matter its not there for reading
ManTheDan12@reddit
Yeah, lived in Texas my whole life as well and I know how stupid the people here are.
But it pales in comparison to the idiocy in Oklahoma.
bluechip1996@reddit
Which pale in comparison to idiocy in Arkansas which pales to the idiocy in Louisiana which pales in the idiocy to Mississippi.
Environmental-Top682@reddit
LOL
Pure-Breath-6885@reddit
That’s the problem: in Texas we think we have to be number 1 in everything. If that means the worst schools, the poorest levels of education, the most people to die from measles - we’ll see that as a challenge when someone looks like they are beating us, even if it’s the dumbest thing imaginable.
bluechip1996@reddit
You ain’t wrong
ManTheDan12@reddit
Good points all around.
This country is doomed.
bluechip1996@reddit
I ain’t happy about it Dan. I remember sitting on the floor at John Ireland Elementary in Dallas with a diverse group of classmates watching men on the moon on the TV and my little 7 year old self thinking “ the future will be amazing!”
ateateateopals@reddit
Yes, but there’s like 17 people in Oklahoma and no one cares what they have to say. No one outside of Texas even thinks about them. Texas has too big of a mouth (and size) to be so stupid.
ManTheDan12@reddit
Can't argue with that.
XtremeGnomeCakeover@reddit
Also, Kansas.
Zhombe@reddit
One would have to cousin marry an Oaky, a Baman, and somehow mix a OleMiss in there for a generation or two to register on the typical rural Texan sophistication and intellect scales.
Which-Discount-604@reddit
If you have only lived in Texas, how do you know what the rest of America is like?
Tintoverde@reddit
You can visit. Watch the news. ….
halnic@reddit
News is a trash source to what the world is like... if you think you know a place based off what you saw on TV, stop it because no you don't.
bluechip1996@reddit
I have traveled extensively, Texan born and raised, left 6 years ago and moved to AR. I am in OK, LA, MS and MO monthly. Texans, specifically DFW folks are the worst drivers but not stupid. MS folks are the most illiterate marble mouth buffoons of all of them, folks in LA folks are purposefully ignorant and AR folks are JESUS. GUNS. BABIES. Stupid.
Big__If_True@reddit
What part of Louisiana? I live in NELA now
bluechip1996@reddit
NW mostly around Natchitoches
Stunning_Donkey_ou81@reddit
With all the weather apps available this tracks. I was watching that storm on RadarScope. No excuses for not being weather savvy. Curious if the current administration cuts to meteorology affected this.
Tito_SDobleP@reddit
And they are proud to be dumb 😂
IntelligentSinger783@reddit
And they technically voted to defund the services and improvements needed for advanced reporting.
Yung-Floral@reddit
my partner and I moved here a couple months ago and while people are very kind here, they are just oozing with stupidity in an almost cute way
Calm-Individual2757@reddit
Bwahaha…just spent 5 years in TX and the stupidity was overwhelming. Thankfully I’m back where people actually think and have curiosity to understand.
Obsidianrunner@reddit
I think MS claims that spot
MarsupialPristine677@reddit
Unequivocally.
Historical-Book-4866@reddit
You should stick to creeping on the bi sexual sub, ya weirdo. Disgusting. Does the town know about you? Better hope not
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bluechip1996@reddit
*Furiously smoke signaling you from the ARKLAHOMA border.
Barack_Odrama_007@reddit
But wait theres more!
They vote!
permalink_save@reddit
It's rural America, which we have a lot of. They also voted in some of the dumbest motherfuckers into the government too.
bf2na@reddit
U included
myco_server13@reddit
Hey me too! But I moved to PA this summer.
PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS@reddit
Close. Oklahoma just beat us
Different-Nobody4228@reddit
Think it mainly people moving here not used to our weather. I’ve been here 67 years.
dragonflyhil1@reddit
I still haven't seen where the NWS confirms tornado
Professional-Fish889@reddit
Damn sure can’t blame that on democrats! POTUS Needldik did that!
Different-Nobody4228@reddit
It was all over the news stations . They had warnings, they chose to ignore them.
Homey-Airport-Int@reddit
They had severe thunderstorm warnings, people are claiming it was a tornado and they should have gotten a tornado warning. Honestly just classic idiots being furious at the weatherman because their property is damaged and there's no one to really blame.
hbk1966@reddit
Yep, NWS issued a warning that there would be 70+ mph straightline winds. People choose to ignore the warning and then turn around and blame the NWS for not warning them.
HeilStary@reddit
I was visiting friends in the area, power went out around 5-10 mins after the warning for parker county dropped, and sirens weren't going untill around 10 mins after the worst of it ended
jeremysbrain@reddit
NWS says it wasn't a tornado.
NWS: No confirmed tornadoes in Fort Worth area after storms | Fort Worth Star-Telegram
chesterriley@reddit (OP)
NWS has been broken though.
https://archive.ph/T5T3F
[In an effort to shrink the federal government, President Trump and congressional Republicans have taken steps that are diluting the country’s ability to anticipate, prepare for and respond to catastrophic flooding and other extreme weather events, disaster experts say.
Staff reductions, budget cuts and other changes made by the administration since January have already created holes at the National Weather Service, which forecasts and warns of dangerous weather.]
Homey-Airport-Int@reddit
Ironically you're endangering people by claiming NWS is broken and no longer reliable.
YPErkXKZGQ@reddit
Claiming that the National Weather Service is "broken and no longer reliable" is a gross over-reaction. Yes, NWS is hurting. No, the forecasters and their forecasts are not "broken and unreliable."
You should know better.
chesterriley@reddit (OP)
That's not my claim. I'm saying the NWS no longer works as well as we are all use to see it working. Because someone broke a great public service for no good reason. Since the NWS can't be relied on any longer to activate tornado sirens who knows what else it has become unreliable on?
hbk1966@reddit
Dude the NWS isn't even responsible for activating tornado sirens, that's the responsibility of the local government. The NWS is responsible for issuing warnings and the local government is responsible for using those warnings to active the sirens if needed. The NWS isn't broken, sure they're hurting for funding but there is no grounds to say that they're any less reliable as a result. What are you even trying to claim here? amA you trying to claim that there was a tornado? Because every meteorologist says otherwise, that the damage was caused by straight line winds and not a tornado.
meanmagpie@reddit
So what’s your point here? Actually it WAS a tornado? Is there evidence of that?
AceBricka@reddit
lol this thread is a lot of people being confidently and loudly wrong and being defensive about it.
AthiestCowboy@reddit
Doomers have infiltrated every subreddit. Just respond with “ok doomer” and move on.
YPErkXKZGQ@reddit
Normally I would agree. I'm just too closely-related to this one. Have to give an honest, good-faith response, if a little confrontational. Skill issue honestly. Just couldn't ignore it.
AthiestCowboy@reddit
Yeah I get it. Problem is that it’s coming from the same people that said those girls at the camp and that community essentially “deserved it” when their town flooded a few months ago.
Theres no reasoning with them.
azzers214@reddit
I mean in the end if their sources come from "The Daily Mail" (UK) and then something in the Phillipines you gotta at least question the source, right?
AthiestCowboy@reddit
Not really. You ignore and move on.
The adage of playing chess with a pigeon comes to mind.
NuthinToHoldBack@reddit
This is correct. Yes it’s definitely hurting. And to be clear, this is not a good thing.
That said, claiming that it’s broken and no longer reliable, hasn’t been proven yet.
The flash floods in Central Texas earlier this year, not the fault of the NWS either, that’s on local officials
mrmcbeer@reddit
The staffing and budget cuts have reduced the capacity of the NWS to quickly respond to rapidly changing weather events, but what reason do we have to believe that a survey of the damage conducted the following day would be inaccurate?
radarksu@reddit
Because the Trump administration just fires people who make reports that put The King in unfavorable light. E.G. :
Trump fires US labor official over data and gets earlier than expected chance to reshape Fed | Reuters https://share.google/fFoobYz2WLBQxLdHv
Now, did the NWS lie, in this case? Probably not, but the problem is that now, we just don't know. Sad.
paulsown@reddit
The Fed had a huge problem with massive revisions which made the data unreliable.
blakeinalake@reddit
Trust me, bro
burrito3ater@reddit
“No longer reliable” Sounds almost as dumb as “show us the REAL unemployment rate”
Dick_Lazer@reddit
Assuming it actually wasn't, is that technicality supposed to make much of a difference when your roof is caved in?
LandscapePenguin@reddit
Roofs can cave in for many reasons. The article is criticizing the NWS for issuing a severe thunderstorm warning instead of a tornado warning. In that context the technicality of whether or not there was an actual tornado seems more than a little pertinent, doesn’t it?
Dick_Lazer@reddit
Tornados are considered winds of at least 58 mph. The NWS is saying they found damage consistent with winds of up to 85 mph. But I guess as long as they’re not technically tornado winds we shouldn’t be warned or worried about them.
LandscapePenguin@reddit
Isn’t that pretty much exactly what the NWS is saying in tha article, Dick Lazer?
Dick_Lazer@reddit
Yep, they're admitting now after the fact that they've found evidence of damage from winds far stronger than the threshold for a tornado.
hbk1966@reddit
You realize a tornado has to have circulation right? It's not just a wind speed threshold as tornado's also produce a significant pressure gradient to sustain the vortex.
Dick_Lazer@reddit
You realize you're completely missing the point, right?
hbk1966@reddit
Because a lot of the damage from tornadoes isn't the wind speed. It's the massive pressure gradient that is required to sustain the vortex. The pressure at the center of a tornado can be 1.5 psi lower than the surrounding air. This pressure differential along with the torsional force acting on buildings is what causes a lot of the damage from tornadoes, not just the wind. This is why if you compare the aftermath of a hurricane to a tornado with a similar windspeed you'll see the tornado causes a lot more destruction.
The NWS did issue a severe thunderstorm warning which means you're supposed to take shelter and they said the winds would be 70-75 mph in that warning. Microbursts like these are a lot harder to predict than tornadoes as they're a small scale phenomenon that's too small for the size of current meteorology models to discern and they're too little warning to reliably notify people. By time the notification would be sent out the event would already be over. That's why people should listen to the warnings the NWS issue before a storm, because they absolutely did issue a warning telling people there would be strong straight line winds possible.
omgfloofy@reddit
A tornado is different from a derecho and both have high speed winds.
If you want to look at derecho type damage, check out footage of the storms from last May.
It's not that they're saying it's nothing when they say it wasn't a tornado. They're saying it's straight line winds, which can be just as damaging. Sometimes, they create more damage than a tornado because they tend to be more widespread.
Dick_Lazer@reddit
The larger point is about the alert systems in place rather than delving into the pedantry of whether the damage was caused by what can technically be referred to as a “tornado” or not. This reminds me of people who try to defend fracking by saying it’s not fracking that causes earthquakes, but the wastewater injection associated with fracking.
omgfloofy@reddit
The problem is that a tornado warning doesn't cover the area of a derecho. They're meant to target the path of a tornado, which isn't what derechos follow.
You're talking about being pedantic, however, the NWS did cover this in the severe thunderstorm warning that went out.
And it has this added towards the end:
In the end, Ft Worth was warned. It was just not the 'dramatic' kind of warning people want. Pay attention to all warnings.
SMF67@reddit
Yes
Wanglopse@reddit
15 other sources say there was. They are just covering their butts. Look up max velocity.
radioref@reddit
Max Velocity is the TMZ of meterology. This dude thinks that because he has access to the Storm Relative Velocity layer in NEXRAD radar apps that he's all the sudden a meteorologist. He's fun to watch, but the incessant hyperbole is almost too much to bear sometimes.
RoadAppleTarte@reddit
Are you maybe thinking of the other weather YouTube guy? Max V is in fact, a meteorologist. (Or at least he has a degree in meteorology, I don’t know if he calls himself by that title.)
YPErkXKZGQ@reddit
Max V is, in the kindest description, a hyperbolist. Because that's what generates engagement. I don't blame him for taking that path, but he is often basing video names or live stream titles on singular data points, data points which frequently do not pan out.
This is hard to verify against his public YouTube channel, since he simply deletes the ones that don't pan out, or changes the title and thumbnail and claims "A/B testing."
He does have a degree in meteorology, but that is not the end-all-be-all of weather forecasting. He is for sure a qualified forecaster. I won't deny that. I just think his judgement/motives are questionable. He generates some insanely-clickbait content. Which again, more power to you, but geez.
For clarity, I'm not the guy you responded to.
Hungry-Obligation-78@reddit
Ay man whats up? Fancy seeing you here!
PM_ME_FIRE_PICS@reddit
15 Weather podcasters who financially benefit from click bait
FTFY
tx4468@reddit
15 other weather podcasters*
Have not heard any criticism/critique from known local mets like Steve McCauley.
Valeradeer1957@reddit
Blaming does nothing. I want to know what local authorities are saying/doing about this. Every story is NOT a national story nor are we witnessing the decline of Western Civilization. The decline of Western Civilization has been talked about for years and has yet to happen.
Sudden_Swim8998@reddit
Sounds about right. Some cities in Texas don't even have tornado sirens and the excuse I was given was "they're only useful if you're outside. They can't be heard inside."
Which isn't fcking true AT ALL.
invaluableimp@reddit
Delkus said no tornado. Just strong winds. Strong winds took my roof off once so it doesn’t have to be a tornado to do serious damage
syzygialchaos@reddit
Tornadoes are strong wind. As storms increase in strength/intensity, we will see an increase in microburst and straight line wind damage. 70 mph wind is 70 mph wind whether it’s swirling or not.
hbk1966@reddit
The amount of people in this comment section that think tornadoes are just high winds is wild. I thought even every 5 year old knew tornadoes you know, spin. That's like they're defining characteristic.
Prior-Ad8373@reddit
No
MasterFletch@reddit
Tornados aren't just strong wind lol.
Berserker76@reddit
Trump, Project 2025, gutting federal agencies that we rely on is to blame. Stop voting for Republicans if you want to the state or country to be run by incompetent morons.
chesterriley@reddit (OP)
https://archive.ph/T5T3F
[In an effort to shrink the federal government, President Trump and congressional Republicans have taken steps that are diluting the country’s ability to anticipate, prepare for and respond to catastrophic flooding and other extreme weather events, disaster experts say.
Staff reductions, budget cuts and other changes made by the administration since January have already created holes at the National Weather Service, which forecasts and warns of dangerous weather.]
Greedy_Visual_1766@reddit
It's like they're intentionally trying to kill off the population.
sunny1268050@reddit
they are! don't want to pay anyone SS ,no funds they raided our SS funds
zakats@reddit
Republicans reading this comment:
MaladyMara@reddit
As much as I dislike the Donald, this incident can't be squarely put on him. The article explains the lack of warning was due to the fact there hasn't been a confirmed tornado in the area (damage so far is consistent with straight-line winds). Additionally, it is mentioned that even for normal operating times (when our government bureaucracy isn't under attack) tornadoes are not adequately detected and warned about for about confirmed touchdowns (more info on this here)
We are better than misinformation driven MAGA arguments. Please help educate each other on our current technological limits around tornadoes to better prepare everyone in Texas for them.
inhousedad@reddit
Lots of hate from partisan idiots on your post.
No_Roof_3613@reddit
whatever you have to tell yourself, buddy.
PoodlePopXX@reddit
“Slashed budgets and diminished staffing at key NOAA offices could have devastating impacts on U.S. disaster preparedness and day-to-day forecasts”
How NOAA funding cuts could make it harder to predict and prepare for severe weather
Cuts to NOAA increase the risk of deadly weather tragedies
5 Reasons NOAA and NASA Cuts Will Be Disastrous for Everyone in the US
OrangeGringo@reddit
Wait? This confuses me. Many schools moved their football games from Friday to Thursday many days in advance because we all knew horrible storms were coming.
My sons’ outdoor Friday practice was canceled days in advance.
My phone was going nuts with warnings.
And I could look outside and see it was really bad and react and plan accordingly.
??????
AnxietyDepressedFun@reddit
I think what people mean is that the traditional Tornado Sirens didn't go off + many news broadcasts didn't mention tornadoes or tornado force winds.
As lifelong Texans, sure we recognize when a storm is going to be bad, we understand the risk of being out during the bad weather & we know the hail risks. However for the most part none of us are running for our interior rooms or bathtubs until we hear the sirens or the broadcaster say "City name at 9:52pm take cover immediately" because otherwise we'd be in a state of panic Spring & Fall. Even when we do hear them, usually we go look at a radar map for just one more confirmation because "I'm not going to take shelter for anything less than an F2 kinda mentality" - NWS still says there were no tornadoes, people on the ground say differently.
The article is also from the daily Mail which I definitely don't trust journalistically and most of their quotes are people mad that the sirens never went off, not that they didn't know a bad storm was coming.
Necessary_Jacket3213@reddit
A tornado touched down within miles of me and I didn’t get a warning in my phone period
AnxietyDepressedFun@reddit
I'm fairly certain I know who is to blame but as this is the r/Texas sub it can be treacherous to even mention the name of the people responsible for the current 'administration' of the NWS.
StarWarsPlusDrWho@reddit
I did think it was weird how low-key the local news outlets were acting when the storm was happening. Got a group text from a coworker that a tornado had touched down south of Arlington I think? So I turned on the TV and flipped through channel 5, 8, 11, not one of them was pre-empting their programming about a tornado and in fact none of them even had a tornado watch in effect, let alone a warning. They only had a “severe thunderstorm warning” graphic with the affected counties listed.
Detanimulli@reddit
Unless I’m misreading this, are you talking about Fridays storm? They (wfaa, etc) all had tornado warnings overlayed on the mavs game, you literally couldn't watch the game fullscreen unless you went over to the channel they sent you to, they did that when they first recognized it in Weatherford.
StarWarsPlusDrWho@reddit
I am, and I flipped to the mav’s game even. The warnings they were displaying (at least when I tuned in during the back half of the game) were for thunderstorms only. And in any case, I would think they would had pre-empted even the mavs game and gone straight to the weather announcer if a tornado had touched ground but apparently not.
Detanimulli@reddit
I thought I was trippin when I read your message thinking that I made it up in my mind but I found the footage, It was definitely a tornado warning during the game and for a long while as soon as they recognized rotation. This was the same Pete delkus coverage that was overlayed on the mavs game.
tornado coverage when it hit weatherford
I don't think they would empty the stadium unless they know tornado touchdown is imminent but far enough out and even then a shelter in place order would be the route I bet they’d go.
trippapotamus@reddit
They did have people stay in the AA center for a bit after the game. The people I know that went said they were able to leave around 10:30
mattcalt@reddit
The local news mostly relies on the NWS so lack of destructive warning and no mention of 85mph winds likely (which radar clearly indicated) meant the local news wouldn't mention it.
The biggest issue to me was the radar was not setup in the correct mode for this type of event. It was forecast well in advance and with our population that is completely unacceptable.
AnxietyDepressedFun@reddit
Fully agree - Usually Plano sets off sirens for even moderate winds and not a peep during these storms which is kinda weird. I saw the damage on FW and they definitely should have sounded some alarms.
ctb030289@reddit
Get your kids into sports and this wouldn’t have happened.
/s
Renousim3@reddit
Except a tornado touched down within a few miles of my friends house in Fort Worth without ANY sirens going off or phone alerts
kokothegorilla1@reddit
People are weak and stupid. Looking to blame someone other than themselves. I straight up warned family members not to go camping that night and yet they still went. You cannot fix stupid.
There was PLENTY of warnings.
Forsaken_Ad477@reddit
Even though everything you just said is 100% true, some folks need to find someone, something else to blame instead of taking responsibility for own lack reason and accountability.
GoreonmyGears@reddit
I mean further south but I clearly saw warnings up there, during that storm, on the radar. I cannot attest to local sirens or anything though.
syzygialchaos@reddit
I live not far from my sirens and if I’m not outside when they go off of the storm is popping off already with heavy rain, wind, or thunder, I cannot hear them. I can confirm tho, they do go off when the wind alone is over ~40-50 mph.
syzygialchaos@reddit
I canceled some outdoor activities in Austin on Wednesday due to the chance of severe storms. My county emergency manager posted about the weekend forecast in advance and mentioned isolated chances of straight line wind and possibly tornadoes; she also posted status throughout each storm. I got an email from work warning of severe weather. I saw posts from Texas Storm Chasers and other weather people I don’t even follow. My coworker was pissed his son’s game got moved over “weatherphobia.”
This fury over “we weren’t warned” sounds like a them problem. There were warnings. Lots of warnings.
Tsakax@reddit
They would be real mad if they could read
scruuub@reddit
It may seem obvious to not stick your hand in the wood chipper, but remember the wood chipper has a sign that says not to put your hand in there.
LandscapePenguin@reddit
Don’t bring your logic and common sense in here!
jadedarchitect@reddit
I was watching the Max Velocity stream during these storms, and he literally said out loud "Nobody can get in touch with Ft. Worth NWS stations" - might have the wording wrong, but he definitely said nobody could reach them, and they'd been tracking the rotation for like 30 minutes by the time it faded, with 0 warnings all the way through Ft. Worth into Carrollton. Multiple weather streams were calling the rotation out as a radar indicated tornado.
lurkerlurking123@reddit
Piece of shit president, piece of shit governor, running the great state of Texas to the ground. What's new
Brief_Composer5961@reddit
There has been a Weather Modification Act since 1967 (from previously events in the 50’s [and manage 40’s]).
It’s not like they don’t know. The JRB has the same planes taking off/landing within a few hours of major storms.
Buy a dehumidifier when you see the spraying, and gauge base off how much you have to dump the container (1/2 gal min). It’s remarkable how easily it is to tell when events will happen.
radioref@reddit
go out and touch some grass bro and get off Infowars.
Brief_Composer5961@reddit
Which part is wrong exactly? You can check out the flight patterns/logs for yourself or conduct the same experiment as proof.
Maybe it was the Texas Weather Modification Act was incorrect about?
syzygialchaos@reddit
The part that’s wrong is the part about mankind’s ability to change the weather to this degree with cloud seeding. The physics doesn’t physics, man. Storms require both the equivalent of trillions of horsepower to generate the atmospheric unrest that creates wind and hail, and another trillions of gallons of water to generate the mass to allow flooding rain. Dinky little planes dropping salt into clouds won’t do anything more than allow moisture already in the air to maybe fall to the ground, which is all “weather modification” is at this point. That you should already know from your extensive research. I’m not at all trusting the government here, but I am capable of understanding the physics of weather and realizing there is no fucking way human beings have that kind of secret technology, nor can they do it with airplanes. FFS, at least do a basic cargo calculation when you’re doing your research; there are not enough C130s in the world to do what you think is being done.
Like. Your heart is there. But your education, logic, and correlation skills are wildly in the wrong direction. I bet if you approach this problem with extreme scientific methodology, you’d be quite shocked at the real cause of these storms. I promise, there’s even government lies and coverups involved. Happy hunting.
Brief_Composer5961@reddit
My responses are being deleted/unable to post. If it doesn’t work this time, it’s unimportant // test it for yourself.
Weather modification has been going on since at least the early 1900’s (California in like 1903) in the modern era. It’s not just cloud-seeding (which is more than just salt)/chemtrails, it’s many different things in a coordinated effort across many organizations for compartmentalization.
There are tracker sites which follow these sort of things.
If it’s harmless, why are states starting to ban the process?
syzygialchaos@reddit
Here’s where you lose any and all credibility. Do some genuine research on the physics of contrails, it’s really very simple. It’s based on the same science that makes your breath visible on cold days. Are you making “contrails”? No. It’s simple water vapor changing state due to the temperature differential between the hot air you (/the plane) expel, and the cold environment. There are additional factors like the particulate byproducts of burning jet fuel giving water vapor already in the air a point around which to condensate (nucleation). Basically, plane make cloud.
Again…the real conspiracy, complete with government and lobbyist coverup, that you’re somehow missing in your expansive “research” is >!climate change!<. This is a real, provable, fact-based and scientifically supported explanation for the increase in severe storms and weird weather, that is actively being suppressed by the government, who are also funding coverups that fuel conspiracy theories like “chemtrails” and “weather manipulation” and “space lasers” or whatever.
Blunt answer, because people are stupid. They take all the available information on the World Wide Web, and somehow cobble together the most baseless, asinine, illogical conclusions to these problems. Problems that otherwise have actual extremely simple and clear causal factors that anyone who paid attention in 9th grade science can follow. For every stupid conspiracy YouTube video people like you get suckered by, there are a dozen good, fact-based videos you can independently verify with basic math and straightforward science. You just have to stop believing what they want you to believe and like do your own research or whatever. Best of luck to you, hopefully you’ll find the truth someday.
No_Roof_3613@reddit
People have attempted to modify the weather. There hasn't been much success beyond silver oxide promoting the condensation of water to create rain, and even that isn't reliable.
Traditional-Hall-591@reddit
I too get my local DFW news from the Daily Mail in the UK. They really have the pulse of the area.
newusr1234@reddit
Daily Mail is also click bait. Their articles contain very little factual data and their "sources" are usually links back to other stories on their own website.
Muted_Chard_139@reddit
Yea it’s gossip. Then you find out it’s usually right.
chesterriley@reddit (OP)
The fact that we had to get this information about the DFW area from another continent because local news here wasn't reporting any of it makes the whole thing much more pathetic and unnerving. Not only did the NWS fail but local news media failed us too.
achaosjestism@reddit
Or you could listen to the people that live here. Storms in this area are wildly unpredictable even with the best tech. There were warnings, everywhere. Sirens, push notifications, news station broadcasts. What more warning were we supposed to get? Everyone that lives here through at least one spring knows that we never really know what the weather is going to do until it is on top of us. I understand that if your weather isn't like that, it's difficult to comprehend how you just have to be prepared for whatever is thrown at you in a moments notice. And there's a reason you didn't hear it from elsewhere. Bc it's BS
chesterriley@reddit (OP)
That is exactly what they did do. Where do you think they got their information from? From postings on X and Facebook.
You can personally vouch that tornado warning sirens covered the entire DFW area? I don't think so.
So you're claiming they just made up all the postings they saw on social media? It's far more believable that you just aren't as good as professional journalists are at uncovering information sources.
achaosjestism@reddit
I'm taking to YOU. You could listen. And clickbait is clickbait. Certainly you've read BS articles before. You want to double down and say that this widely known garbage of a source is correct and maintain that you know what happened here better than the people who live here. You have a ton of comments telling you that we were warned. But you maintain that we weren't. This is wild.
calste@reddit
...You seriously don't see the problem with that?
You posted a link to a tabloid that trawls social media for outrage and hysteria then amplifies it. But even then the publication points out that there's no actual evidence of tornado damage. Despite the sensational headline, the author at least made some effort to point out that the posts aren't backed up by any hard evidence.
Social media is not evidence of anything. People were absolutely convinced that helicopters and airplanes were actually drones invading New Jersey. Anger is addictive and social media is the perfect platform to spread that kind of righteous indignation. If the source is "social media" it can safely be disregarded in the absence of any real evidence.
Muted_Chard_139@reddit
Huh? There was lightning and massive rains. Duh it’s a storm people.
TexMom5@reddit
Tell me who cut the budget for NWS staff? Equipment? Who has been calling all the budgetary shots? Who set “national priorities?” Do the math. Where is all the money going? How if there have been cuts do “we” have $10 TRILLION more debt in the blonk of an eye? tell me exactly who is going to pay this debt? Our children are great grandchildren, our nieces and nephews. Unless of course you have connections and have a magnificent heritage.
pinkeye_bingo@reddit
When you're the anti-science party this is what happens...
No_Roof_3613@reddit
could've been straight line winds, but the NWS was silent the whole time.
melissam17@reddit
It was like 2 am anyways! What on earth are they expecting
shellbellgb@reddit
I live in Fort Worth (Haslet area) and there were warnings on the tv the day before the storm and all day the day of. I honestly didn’t hear the sirens go off one time though.
Eliminate-DaBots@reddit
This is such a big news story that only the UK press is reporting on it?
Dick_Lazer@reddit
US media is largely compromised at this point. They’re afraid of speaking out against this administration as a lot of people are losing their jobs (or worse) for doing so. UK reporters have less to fear from the US government.
plvx@reddit
Daily Mail UK bro. They know their shit. Been in the game for years.
Reporting on the Lone Star State from across the pond since I’ve been in diapers.
/s
Eliminate-DaBots@reddit
You missed the point entirely bro.
plvx@reddit
Na. The point is daily mail UK is click bait garbage.
Robot_Alchemist@reddit
This can’t be about actual Texans - we don’t expect warning psshhhh
frosty_the_snowman-@reddit
Came from Chicagoland for a job. Only good things here are the weather, no state tax, and nice people (sometimes).
ADHDwinseverytime@reddit
There were warnings on every app, the news, hell I even got a robocall the day prior warning of the next day. I mean what are we looking for here? Oh and someone asked about the weather sirens. Sometimes those things are controlled by some yahoo watching the news and pushing a button. That is of course if they are in the office when a storm hits. Oh and the minimum criteria for setting off the sirens is 70 mph winds, Nador warning, or two inch hail. The highest I saw in that article was 67. I got an idea, open up a radar app and make an informed decision.
syzygialchaos@reddit
My sirens in Johnson county have gone off for wind around 50 mph, and it’s automatic. We also have a county emergency manager who live posts on Facebook when we have severe weather; she’s very accurate on what’s happening and where, both in advance and during the event. He’s parts of the weather system are very (intentionally) broken, but it’s not completely worthless.
That said, I’m kind of in the let them rage mindset. Let them yell and scream about lack of warnings. Let them call their politicians and rile up their friends on Facebook so they can be shown the articles about the Doge cuts to staffing and budget for NWS and NOAA. Let them get a taste of what happens when you put the government in an indiscriminate wood chipper. Let them wake up.
ADHDwinseverytime@reddit
Some are automatic, well, triggered by NOAA weather radar, and if the sirens were set off for 50 mph winds that is nuts and someone would have probably contacted them. As a matter of fact a city close by set theirs off one time and the news was talking about it because there was no threat. There were always lots of people complaining that they should have been set off or they shouldn't have.
As far as the government goes, it needed a woodchipper, and no I didn't vote for the president.
Own-Shift-4910@reddit
Texans where is your beloved, long-term Governor, Lt. Governor and even better yet that lovely AG when you need them - oh they’re all up Trump’s arse. What will you get are no answers and nothing in return other than a lousy press conference where fingers will be pointed at everyone else - Beto, Democrats and you’ll be fine with it just like the deadly ice storm.
Pepi119@reddit
The correlation coefficient drop was easily visible and coincident with the couplet on velocity
FWD office absolutely messed up not slapping a tornado warning on that
jhkayejr@reddit
it's like these ingrates expect Trump to do his YMCA dance in a substandard ballroom.
Unusual-Ad-6550@reddit
They are getting what they voted for. Dismantling and gutting agencies that worked for the common good
HugePurpleNipples@reddit
Stop electing republicans who decline federal money for early warning systems because they don't want "Biden's money".
What a fucking joke our state government is.
https://www.npr.org/2025/07/10/nx-s1-5460996/texas-lawmakers-rejected-bill-to-enhance-emergency-response-just-months-before-floods
dageekywon@reddit
All of the forecasts did state low, but not zero, chance of tornadoes.
The problem is 99 percent of the time, they don't happen so people ignore it.
The technology doesn't exist to predict tornadoes accurately, which is why they have stuff like skywarn and boots on the ground reporting via the internet, which half of the time is someone thinking they are seeing something they aren't.
Storms that occur after dark are the worst for this because even spotters can only see stuff during lightning flashes.
So yeah, I don't blame people for being angry about it, but you can't exactly say it wasn't mentioned either. Any thunderstorm can spawn those, and when sirens get set off and there isn't one, they bitch because nothing actually happened, too. Either they set off sirens the moment a cloud even looks like it could spin or they try to find a level of rotation to do it to reduce false alarms, then something sneaks through because it didn't hit that threshold at first.
Can only do the best the technology and human interpretation can allow.
There were plenty of yellow indicators on radar as those storms came through, but yellow is weak rotation. Red is when radar picks something up that would likely spawn a warning, either that or a ground report. But radar isn't 100% the answer, and the technology has its weaknesses. But it can see in the dark much better than even a trained human, and a forecaster sitting at NWS Fort Worth has that and spotter/internet submitted information to work off of.
They will look into it, see if they missed something technology saw, but it'll probably be inconclusive. They can only work with the data they have.
And usually by the time it does show on radar, and they do hit the button to trigger the warning, it's already started as well. The ability to see 5 minutes into the future would help more than any technology, because they can spin up that quickly from what looks like nothing.
Reverend0352@reddit
The National Weather Service is a federal agency that had their funding cut and staff that were laid off. Lots of staff still working without pay for over a month
Sightline@reddit
The NWS had a 2% warning for those areas on that day. NWS > everything. Our property was hit earlier this year by a tornado (uprooted trees 150ft from our house), me and the wife were already gone, hell I even warned the neighbors before we left. You have to check the SPC (NWS) website, everything else is just filler.
SPC, click the tornado tab. If the tornado threat is > 0% you should watch the radar that day.
binarygoober@reddit
I wasnt furious, but I was honestly surprised to NOT hear any sirens during that storm. Nothing. But im the guy who stands on the porch watching all hell break loose.
Brief_Composer5961@reddit
In modern times, people have been successfully creating weather modification since the early 1900s (California in like 1903). Cloud seeding and chemtrails.
It’s not secret technology, and not relegated to dinky little salt planes. People have been actively tracking these sort of incidents since 2018. lol at thinking it’s C-130s, C-17s or anything similar.
I have family who actively participate in government testing, in East Texas (Sulphur Springs), in defense contracting.
Just because you cannot conceive or comprehend it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
Texas is not the only state who participates in these sort of coordinated efforts.
Current_Analysis_104@reddit
You get what you vote for. NOAA, workforce cut. National Weather Service, cuts. FEMA, cuts and probable elimination.
Pale-Succotash441@reddit
For those of you that don’t live in Texas, there has been a major drop in tornado siren alerts that should be issued by the National Weather Service under the new staff cuts and restructuring under the new administration. The sirens should sound when there is a Tornado Warning (an actual tornado or tornado activity is actively occurring), high winds in a storm are approaching, or a storm with hail is approaching. Some communities complained that the sirens were being activated too frequently, whereas others have complained that they aren’t being activated enough. In this instance, no sirens were triggered and no alerts were sent out to mobile devices once tornado activity was confirmed.
Calm-Individual2757@reddit
Texans hate science…so what do you expect?
tailskirby@reddit
This shows that people need to watch a weather report more often.
TurloIsOK@reddit
no paywall: https://archive.is/1IgqE
paulsown@reddit
No tornado.
Not_Associated8700@reddit
Wouldn't the local news channels be on top of this too? Are you saying the sirens didn't go off?
HeilStary@reddit
I was visiting friends in the area sirens didn't go off, and power in that area went out pretty early on, sirens werent heard untill maybe 10 mins after the worst of it passed and they sounded super quiet as if only the ones around downtown were blaring anything south of I30 and nothin
syzygialchaos@reddit
I live close to my sirens, and I can’t hear them if the storm is already raging. They are way too quiet, and that is entirely a different problem.
harrietgarriet@reddit
FWIW they’re not meant to be heard indoors! They’re really “get inside” sirens
Deep_Mechanic_@reddit
Texans "we don't need the government telling us what to do!!!!"
Also Texans "why didn't the government tell us a tornado was coming?!?! This is all their fault!!!"
duchess_of_nothing@reddit
I live in North Texas and was watching Max Velocity during this event. You could see the hook on radar but the radar was only updating every 8 minutes and the NOAA at Norman Ok couldn't reach the Fort Worth station. Not sure if it was offline due to power or no employees. Max was begging people to call anyone they knew in that area to warn them.
not-actual69_@reddit
Weird that I had endless alerts on my phone, every social media platform had warnings of severe weather, news stations said severe weather was predicted, and every tv local station had banners across the bottom. If you missed the memo you need to get your head out of your ass.
noncongruent@reddit
So, this area is extremely well covered by various types of doppler radar, and that radar is very good at identifying mesocyclones, which are wind patterns that are precursors to tornados, and tornado vortex signatures, TVS, which are the tornadoes themselves. In fact, when doppler first showed up engineers thought that what turned out to be TVS were actually software glitches because it never occurred to anyone that you could actually "see" a tornado with radar. Turns out you can, very easily. TVSs show up long before the tornado reaches ground level, and they always show up if there's a tornado. By definition, you can't have a tornado without a TVS because a TVS is the actually measurement of wind velocity of the side of a tornado, with one side moving away from the radar transmitter and the other side moving toward it.
There were no TVSs associated with the storms that moved through Fort Worth the other night. There weren't even any mesocyclones in that group of storm cells either. You can't have a tornado without a mesocyclone, and you can't have a tornado without the unique doppler radar signature known as a TVS.
Necoras@reddit
What did they expect? This is what Texas voted for.
BigJTex82@reddit
You live in Texas! If it starts to drizzle I prepare for a tornado.
Deezutzgoteem@reddit
There were no tornado warnings whatsoever- completely missed by the national weather service. How is this the average Texan’s fault lol? Your sub 70 iq’s are showing.
Tintoverde@reddit
“ hundreds of thousands “ that is surely an exaggeration
khz30@reddit
Warnings were plastered on every broadcast from Thursday morning onward and I own a weatherband radio. You cannot solely rely on a single source for weather information and expect to remain aware up to the second.
There's also three dedicated local weather radar TV stations that blasted warnings and were running coverage before during and after the worst of the storms. If you don't have an antenna as a backup, that's on you.
I'm still dealing with a lack of power since Friday night and more people need to understand that sirens aren't meant to be relied upon if you're already indoors, they're for everyone unlucky enough to be outside.
Self-Comprehensive@reddit
We talking about the storm they warned us about days in advance, that they cancelled a rescheduled the entire Friday night football schedule for, and that I was getting warnings on my phone all day and night about? Because I felt pretty warned.
LibMike@reddit
I don't know, I live in south FTW and there were literally tornado sirens going off lol.
Matchboxx@reddit
The sirens don’t necessarily mean tornado. They can go off for any severe weather alert that requires taking shelter, such as severe thunderstorms.
TieAccomplished3579@reddit
May 2024 my house and tree filled half acre lot was hit by tornado in temple tx. I got warnings from the weather app on my iPhone but other than that, no sirens. Because a tree had fallen the year before due to wind into my roof I prepared for possible tornado. I never truly thought however I’d be in one. We have many resources these days snd Texas is known for its hail and high winds.
plubem@reddit
My friends in south Fort Worth said sirens were going off. Every weather app and television broadcast had warnings on the bottom of the screen.
The Daily Mail UK? That's totally where I get my DFW news. But this is Reddit, anything to shit on Texas.
Spirited_Bacon@reddit
The sirens did go off.. a solid 5 to 10 minutes after the brute of the storm passed. The problem is not that there was no warning, it was that the warning was way too late.
plubem@reddit
Every news outlet and weather channel insists repeatedly to have multiple ways to receive warnings.
Also, it wasn't initially clear if it were a tornado or 80mph+ straight line winds that accompanied the storm system everywhere it went.
slammypjr@reddit
Both don’t hold a candle to memfrica
jeffgmosier@reddit
Ummm … why are we posting an article about this from the Daily Mail? Kind of think of the better coverage is going to be from the newspapers and TV stations that covered this, not a UK news outlet that is aggregating content from a variety of places.
BCMBCG@reddit
We were warned lol
Brief_Composer5961@reddit
Which part is wrong exactly? You can check out the flight patterns/logs for yourself or conduct the same experiment as proof.
Maybe it was the Texas Weather Modification Act was incorrect about?
tynskers@reddit
Thank the billionaires who think that they know what we want. Also somehow the state of Texas voted for this.
NiKoDaemous@reddit
I wonder if severe cuts to the staffing and budget to the NWS might have something to do with this.
LandscapePenguin@reddit
Probably not since there were warnings about this days in advance.
clarkrd@reddit
They had the day they voted for.
Mr_Freedom_Boner@reddit
Did they? We'll be looking forward to yours.
Basement_Chicken@reddit
Nothing is certain, but death in Texas.
SeattleBrother75@reddit
It’s only been on every YouTube weather channel for a week.
No warning? Really?
Repulsive-Ad-8558@reddit
Obviously they weren’t paying attention to Pete or ponder.
Bubbly-Pipe9557@reddit
they broke into the mavs game right at tipoff
pepelepew65@reddit
COVFEFE!!!!!!!!!!
Plane-Investment-791@reddit
A buddy of mine had trees that even windshear or microburst do not have the lateral force velocity to damage as they were. These were not bradford pears either.
therealbongjovi@reddit
Oh well. Maybe vote better next time
Old-Challenge-2129@reddit
News and social media outlets were tracking the storm. Also, given budget cuts and even government shutdown, I can see that lack of updates were affected.