What is a pantomime, (also called a panto?), and what is it like?
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Hi! I’m an American, and I have a question for you all! I have heard of British pantomimes before, (also called a panto), but I don’t really know what it is. I know it’s usually during Christmastime, but I am confused on it. I wonder, what is it like? I wonder why we don’t have them in the United States?
spacecoyote555@reddit
It's a type of play. The story is usually based on a famous fairy tale (Cinderella etc but often includes drag aspects like the ugly sisters), and is aimed at children with lots of audience participation (booing when the villain is on stage for example). But adults can enjoy it too as there's often lots of innuendo used that will go over the kids heads.
LadyBAudacious@reddit
Do they still bombard the audience with sweets?
And have a song the audience is encouraged to sing along with?
Afraid-Priority-9700@reddit
Yes, at least at my local one that I attend with my in-laws every year. Right at the end, there's always audience shout-outs and a silly song with actions.
ukslim@reddit
It's also extremely codified.
There's always a "principle boy", which is a heroic male character played by a girl. It works out that both Cinderella and Prince Charming can be "something for the dads".
And a "dame" which is a raucous female character played by a man. Big wigs. Big frocks. Lots of costume changes. There's usually a comedy sequence where the dame strips (down to Victorian bloomers). The dame can be a villain, like the ugly sisters in Cinderella, but are usually good side characters, like Jack's mother in Jack and the Beanstalk, or Widow Twanky in Aladdin.
There's always lots of breaking the fourth wall. The characters talk at and with the audience - "you need to help me by shouting as loud as you can if the crocodile appears" etc.
Loads of conventions. Nowadays not every panto has all the pieces, but you're entitled to feel that you've been let down a bit if one's missing.
It's also quite parochial. There will always be regional jokes. The smaller the production, the more local and inside-jokey the jokes will be. People travel from 50 miles away to see the big panto at the Birmingham Hippodrome, so the jokes will be about broad regional themes. Maybe a dig at Coventry. But the panto in Leamington Spa is really only intended for people from the town and nearby villages, so they can do niche jokes about local politics, a specific set of roadworks, etc.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
It sounds like so much fun
AdmiralRiffRaff@reddit
It's an absolute hoot. This is an example of one
whizzdome@reddit
Agreed. This is a great exemplar.
ikariw@reddit
Oh no it isn't
Foreign_End_3065@reddit
Oh yes it is!
SimpleDisastrous4483@reddit
Oh no it isn't!
wizardeverybit@reddit
Oh yes it is
Accomplished_Fix5702@reddit
We see what you did there 😂
NoiseLikeADolphin@reddit
I’ve never seen this video! It’s an absolute delight thank you for sharing
Grey_Bomberman@reddit
Wouldn't Jim Davidsons Cinderella be the best example? 🙈
brideofgibbs@reddit
Just came to say that in polari, Widow Twanky is rhyming slang for a north American DH & I often use it to comment discreetly Widows everywhere in this street
auntie_eggma@reddit
DH?
brideofgibbs@reddit
Dear Husband
ukslim@reddit
I feel we may be 3 levels deep in gay slang here.
I don't know what a "dear husband" is, except I think on Mumsnet women use DH to just mean "husband".
brideofgibbs@reddit
Correct
ukslim@reddit
So a Widow Twanky is just a married man? 🤷♂️
auntie_eggma@reddit
I did a little search and it's nothing of the sort. It's rhyming slang for American. And handkerchief.
Lowermains@reddit
It is used in common usage on Mumsnet to signify husband
auntie_eggma@reddit
Widow Twanky?
brideofgibbs@reddit
Widow Twanky = Yankee
Which I thought OP would enjoy, as a North American asking about panto
Ginger beer = queer
DH = Dear Husband
Glad to have made that clear. I’m assured the first two are polari. DH is so ubiquitous on th’interwebs it never occurred to me to have to distinguish its register, explain its meaning or cite its source.
Sorry to have anyone
TomatoChomper7@reddit
Not everyone uses your stupid mumsnet language
ukslim@reddit
Ah.
I thought you were saying Widow Twanky was slang for "North American DH".
inkymittens@reddit
Ahh now I understand. Punctuation would have saved all that.
poeticlicence@reddit
Dear half too
auntie_eggma@reddit
Widow Twanky is rhyming slang for American Husbands?
brideofgibbs@reddit
Sorry, I was answering your question. If you follow the thread, I think you’ll see the answer you’re looking for. There’s a little bit in Polari for you to read as well. Good luck, hon!
auntie_eggma@reddit
No, what you're doing here is being snarky and passive aggressive because you were unclear.
brideofgibbs@reddit
I’m not sure why you’re upset. Hope you have a better day from now on, dear
spocksgaygrandchild@reddit
You need to learn how to use full stops.
auntie_eggma@reddit
Lol you can't help yourself.
mildlydiverting@reddit
There’s a lot of overlap between Polari, Fairground Cant / Carney and Rhyming Slang, so words often travel in both directions.
JCDU@reddit
Polari you say? Ooooh allo I'm Juian and this my friend Sandy....
brideofgibbs@reddit
Vada those ginger widows, Jules
Willsagain2@reddit
Compulsory response "Oh no it isn't......"
midlifecrisisAJM@reddit
"Oh No It Doesn't!"
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Yess! It actually sounds like so much fun!
ComposerNo5151@reddit
I wonder how the gender swopping of the principal boy and dame would work out in the US, particularly as panto is aimed at kids as well as adults. The adult humour is generally designed to go over the head of an eight year old, but still.
I can imagine conservative Americans getting extremely over exercised about the whole thing.
Incidentally, that puritanical and conservative streak that runs through American society is probably why panto doesn't exist there. The only other places I've been to that do pantomime are Australia, New Zealand and even Canada, but I understand a panto may also be seen in South Africa - so basically the 'Old Commonwealth'.
Scarymonster6666@reddit
Imagine Rocky Horror Picture Show audience participation for kids
GrinningD@reddit
To add to the perfect answer above, larger pants often have a celebrity involved - usually a soap or sporting Star. I will always remember Heavyweight boxing champion Frank Bruno's stint from 1999 to 2004.
AlannaTheLioness1983@reddit
It is! If you like British humor at all, and you have the opportunity, buy the ticket! I went to my first panto as an adult, and I loved every second!!!
fefafofifu@reddit
You might be able to get "Peter Pan Goes Wrong" online. Their stuff is a bit more "meta" than most, but should give you s good idea what they're typically like.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
OMG YESS I LOVE THEM
Obsidian-Phoenix@reddit
They also tend to lean into mistakes and ad lib when it happens. It’s almost encouraged.
I’ve heard that if you go to the last few shows of most panto’s they play trick on each other. Things like nailing a stool to the floor when someone needs to pick it up.
Training_Echidna_911@reddit
We used to go to the Christmas Eve show which was looser than usual shows.
Obsidian-Phoenix@reddit
We used to do the same when I was a kid. Now, with my own family, we like to keep Christmas Eve for staying in, watching a film, and getting ready for Santa, so now we go a few days before Christmas instead.
nealbo@reddit
And more than that, fake "mistakes" are often built in on purpose and repeated every night. Discovered this when friends had seen the same panto on a different day and I mentioned the funny mistake they had leant into, to discover the same thing happened during the showing they saw.
Thinking about it and reading all of the other comments panto is actually a really deep interesting cultural staple with so many rules and conventions. Very interesting for something we do for a bit of a laugh at Christmas 😂
Lots-o-bots@reddit
Last year we went to one with a back and forth toungue twister. There wasnt anything rude scripted but it was set up so that any accidental spoonerisims would end up making swear words. It was very funny.
hungrybuniker@reddit
Yes, always learned to go to the last showing. Even in our tiny local one we did this. I miss those days.
S_C519@reddit
I’ve been to the one in Lichfield a few times and every year no matter what the production is they always have some guy in a gorilla suit kidnapping the cast one by one from a bench
chaoticchemicals@reddit
The last time I went to a panto was at the Spa Centre in Leamington. It was dreadful and it went in for nearly three hours. Our daughter was bored rigid ! Used to be a big thing to go over to the Belgrade in Cov for Panto when I was a kid. Also, when I was a kid Leamington Panto had reasonably famous people in, I remember one year it had Howard and pearl from last of the summer wine !
TWUK512@reddit
Howard and Pearl in Leamington- you’ve got a good memory- that was in the 1990s!
chaoticchemicals@reddit
In 1979 when I attended St Peter's First School, we went on a trip to the Loft Theatre. I had no idea what we went to see but it terrified me. The only thing I could remember from it was this weird house that had chicken legs and could move. I was telling the Story about it being scary to a woman in a Waterstones and she told me I'd probably watched a play about Baba Yaga. I'm.prettynsure that was the one and only time I've been in the Loft !
CityOfNorden@reddit
I've just realised how mental pantos are.
allywillow@reddit
We went to an audience with Ian McKellan a couple of years ago, and he talked for a good bit on how much he loved panto and how important it was to him, he loves being a dame
Familiarsophie@reddit
Excellent write up! Can confirm the regional jokes, I’m working on a pantomime this year quite far from my home and I don’t get any of the jokes!
Historical-Rise-1156@reddit
The hall for Cornwall does panto and Kernow King participates, I think he was Peter Pan last year but you are right about the local / regional jokes but I went to my first one about 12 years ago, we were abroad for much of my childhood and never saw panto until I was an adult. Lots of slapstick comedy, the dames are not like drag queens but def a parody of female characters but a more child friendly (or at least one that they would be oblivious to the jokes) version
No-Garage-7424@reddit
Oh no it isn't! ~Sorry, I couldn't resist. :p
Alexander-Wright@reddit
I just have to reinforce the part about the conventions. They are very important: for example, the main heroes are led through a haunted wood, usually by the dame. She warns the other characters and asks the audience to shout if they see the ghost. They then creep across the front of the stage, often singing a silly song. The ghost, of course, appears at the back of the line, picking off the heroes one by one, unseen by the rest. The audience roars their warning interrupting the song, but the dame "doesn't hear", and is then surprised that a follower is missing. She will then say "We'll just have to do it again then, Wool!" And, turning round, will creep back across the stage. Repeat.
This is performed at the front of the stage with a haunted wood backdrop hiding the rest of the stage. The purpose of it all is to allow the stage crew to set up a new set for the finale.
There are many other, similar conventions.
EitherBarry@reddit
...Widow Twanky?
ukslim@reddit
... Only appears in the panto version of Aladdin as far as I know. But has done so since the 1800s.
Mother to Aladdin and his brother Wishee Washer.
New_Line4049@reddit
"Lots of audience participation" OOOOOOOH no there isnt!
HeyMySock@reddit
The British version of the TV show Ghosts has a Christmas episode where the ghosts perform a Pantomime. Had only the vaguest idea what one was but this explanation fills in the gaps perfectly.
Cute_Ad_9730@reddit
When the overall concept is 'Aladdin and the magic lamp' the bad character will say; 'i want to get Aladdin', and the 'camp' character will say 'I bet you do'. The joke is children in the audience will just here the baddy want's to catch the hero where the joke for adults is ' I want to get a lad (means young male) in. Historically funny but probably not PC anymore.
Captain_Stable@reddit
Oh no it isn't!!
Wild_Wolverine9526@reddit
Oh no it isn’t…
britishink@reddit
Oh yes it is...
papayametallica@reddit
No it isn’t Boys and Girls
Monsterofthelough@reddit
Oh yes it is!
Wild_Wolverine9526@reddit
Oh no it isn’t! 🤣
twobit211@reddit
OH YES IT IS!!!
Hulla_Sarsaparilla@reddit
He’s behind you!!!
Honest_Associate_663@reddit
Excuse me, is this the five minute argument or the half hour?
dick_schidt@reddit
I've told you once.
Wasps_are_bastards@reddit
I’m so sorry, this is contradiction.
colin_staples@reddit
Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contradictory position
Honest_Associate_663@reddit
No it isn't
BigSisLil@reddit
Call that an argument?
R0gu3tr4d3r@reddit
MP approved
Bam-Skater@reddit
It was originally an adult performance that was toned down for the kids. The drag and occasional bawdy joke are a hangover from that. The guy(Fred Collins) that did the 'toning down' is buried in my local cemetery. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44222574
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Ohhh thank you so much
Academic-Ad-3677@reddit
(Waits for Americans to start foaming at the mouth.)
Loud_Ad_9187@reddit
Musical fairy tale. Not always containing music but usually. Usually a man in drag playing a fairy godmother. Usually about a fairy tale. Usually has a celeb in if it's a city theatre. One that used to be on a soap that ended awhile ago. Usually has a dance number or two
Itchy-Armpits@reddit
Imagine a fairy tale performed on stage but scripted by the people who do pro wrestling
AstroBlush8715@reddit
It's an absolute pile of dogshit where men dress as women and go on stage, act out vaguely rude versions of well known fairytales and there are songs and dancing and stuff. There's a bit where two blokes come out and the audience shouts "he's behind you!" and "oh no he isn't!". It will be devilled with exaggerated regional accents by local failed actors and it will be full of grandmas and primary school age children.
I fucking hated it when I was 5 and I doubt it's gotten any better.
Mediocre_Bridge_9787@reddit
It’s great fun and typically British. I don’t think you’d get it though. It tends to baffle foreigners
Flamingpieinthesky@reddit
You say you've heard of a panto? Oh no you haven't.
WynDwr@reddit
It's behind you!
WynDwr@reddit
Innuendo - lots of Innuendo!!!
joe_smooth@reddit
It's basically a theatrical production of a fairy tale (Jack and the beanstalk, sleeping beaty etc) but it has lots of traditions that mean that unless you were brought up with it, it makes no sense. For instance:
The lead actor is a male character but is played by a woman
There is always one female character that is played by a man (these are know as pantomime dames)
There will always be celebrities in the cast but how famous those celebrities are depends on where the panto is showing i.e. in London you'll get well known people like Julian Clary but here in my home town, Reading, we always get a chap called Justin Fletcher who is famous for kids TV but nothing else. He also lives in Reading and quite often, the celebs will be local to the town where the panto is showing
There is loads of audience participation and some of them are so well known that they have become part of the UK language. If someone in the UK ever says 'oh no it isn't' someone will say 'Oh yes it is!'.
It's also common to do a few songs or a skit of some sort during it.
If there is a horse or a cow or similar in the story, this will be represented by two people in a costume, one in the back and one in the front. Which leads to silliness.
They start in early December and end in early January and it's a Christmas tradition to go to one. I personally hate them but they are very very popular.
rycbar99@reddit
Id just like to point out that pantos in large theatres often have celebrities but there are also A LOT of pantos around the country by amateur dramatic societies - I’ve been in lots!
Wooden_Astronaut4668@reddit
These are always the best pantos!
Disastrous_Fill_5566@reddit
Hang on, Justic Fletcher is a huge get for a pantomime, my daughter is 12 now, but when she was of CBeebies age, he was easily the biggest star on the channel. Three different shows at the same time big.
IMHO, a much bigger star for the pantomime audience (small children and parents) than any soap stars. Julian Clary is hard to beat admittedly, but Mr Tumble isn't exactly D list. B+ list at least.
adam-a@reddit
Also alongside Justin's House and Mr Tumble he does the voice for Shaun the Sheep - which makes him an international film star! Clearly A list :)
Disastrous_Fill_5566@reddit
Don't forget Gigglebiz!
Lily_pad_gargoyle@reddit
I agree! Justin fletcher would be a huge hit if he is was in my local panto. He has got to be one of the biggest celebrities for kids.
joe_smooth@reddit
Yeah but he does it EVERY YEAR. If you grew up in Reading in the last 20 years you'll have seen him in a couple of pantos at least before you're 10 years old.
Disastrous_Fill_5566@reddit
Oh, that's fair. If he played Stockport, tickets would be impossible to get. He should definitely play somewhere less local.
cowprintwheels@reddit
He probably doesn’t want to be away from home all over Christmas. You don’t get much time off when you’re doing 8 shows a week and you have shows on Christmas Eve and Boxing Day and the usually New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day.
Glad-Feature-2117@reddit
I remember seeing Sarah Green (who was in Blue Peter, so also massive) as Cinderella at the Hexagon one year as a kid.
AttentionOtherwise80@reddit
My twins (daughter and son) have their birthday in mid-December, so a trip to a panto was often their birthday treat. They are now grown up and still love a panto. Unfortunately, my daughter's husband is not a fan. It is about the only form of entertainment they disagree on.
joe_smooth@reddit
As I said in my post, I'm not a big fan, but I did enjoy going to the Palladium one a couple of years ago as the humour was VERY adult whilst still having the traditional stuff and lots of jokes for kids, Maybe your son in law would like it if he went to that?
gardenofthenight@reddit
In Derby this year we've got someone who used to be in Corrie! And even as an occasional Corrie watcher, I don't remember her.
Remarkable_Gap_2746@reddit
Omg I would quite happily travel from Derbyshire to Reading to see Justin. He's basically a toddler god
kittenmermaid@reddit
I am screaming with jealousy at Justin Fletcher (mum to 2 young kids). We have Tweedy the Clown who is basically a well known clown where we live... But not cbeebies or even soapstar level of celebrity!
no_instructions@reddit
My parents assure me I saw Brian Blessed doing a panto in Manchester in the 90s but I can't remember it!
I can remember seeing Ian McKellen as the dame in Mother Goose when they toured a few years ago though, that was good fun.
moist-v0n-lipwig@reddit
Surely no one can forget Brian Blessed
MoghediensWeb@reddit
We’ve got Rylan this year in Southend!!!
boojes@reddit
Oh no you haven't!
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! That sounds like fun actually
anotherblog@reddit
Lol if you’ve got kids of a certain age in the UK Justin Fletcher is an absolutely massive deal 😂
Ned-Nedley@reddit
My kid could walk past brad pitt kissing Trump without a twitch, but Mr Tumble?
olihrk@reddit
There won't always be a celebrity. Small settlements still have panto!
ArborealFriend@reddit
Oh yes there will!
In a village it might be a schoolteacher, vicar, Parish Councillor, who'd be the local 'celebrity'.
iamabigtree@reddit
Yes. Durham Gala for example don't usually have a celeb but it is always the same crew each year who are somewhat noted in their own right.
minxorcist@reddit
You also have them in some parts of America, I've seen them advertised.
Various-Baker7047@reddit
Google pantomime. That should answer your question.
kumran@reddit
It's a very camp, funny form of family theatre with a long history, so people here tend to understand the formula they follow and the sort of silliness to expect. Usually based on classic stories but adapted often with new jokes and songs. They have audience participation and jokes that people in the UK just grow up knowing ("oh no he didn't!", "she's behind you!") that you will shout at various points during the show. There's always a 'Dame' who is a man in drag, and young male characters played by women. They're on at Christmas but not often actually Christmas themed. It is silly, funny, and probably very weird if you don't grow up with it as part of your cultural traditions.
imtheorangeycenter@reddit
Don't forget a random person off the telly filling one of the roles.
Usually Barry from EastEnders, belting out a tune noone was expecting.
Hulla_Sarsaparilla@reddit
I once saw David Hasselhof in panto as Hook 😂
tiptoe_only@reddit
I didn't realise this was a thing when I was little so imagine my surprise when I went to the panto and saw Michaela Strachan, one of my favourite people on TV, playing the part of Goldilocks.
For ages I tried to find something to write in to The Really Wild Show about, just so I could put as a PS "I saw you, GOLDILOCKS!"
Fortunately for her, I never did.
AttentionOtherwise80@reddit
Henry Winkler has played Hook a couple of times as well.. And Sir Ian McKellen has played a 'Dame' several times too.
NaturalHighPower@reddit
I met Henry winkler in Woking when I was out on the piss. Couldn’t believe I was meeting the fonz, none of the other lads with me had a scooby who he was 🤷♂️
amberthezombie@reddit
My local panto has the beast from the chase haha
Accomplished_Fix5702@reddit
I found a clip of that, he enters the spirit of it perfectly...
https://youtu.be/N9FS1j3cCyE?si=9844OiHyLKFb_oh1
Well played Hasselhof!
imtheorangeycenter@reddit
Oh, perfect example! OP will be scratching their head at that!
itsfourinthemornin@reddit
Ours last year was graced by The Governess (Anne Hegerty) and I'm loving it, she returns this year too!
Matrixblackhole@reddit
One of the pantos I saw had one of people off The Chase, was great lol
Monsterofthelough@reddit
Sometimes very big celebrities - Frank Bruno for example (not for a while though 😢).
Karl-Pilkinghorn@reddit
MUSTANG SALLEH
joemktom@reddit
And the two people dressed as a horse/cow.
clivehorse@reddit
The classic is a donkey, but one time I was the front of the panto camel. There was a reimagining of "What Shall we do with the Drunken Sailor" but all camel themed, I wish I could remember it.
Ovenbird36@reddit
I learned this from celebrity Sewing Bee when a horse (costume) won the competition.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much
Top_Barnacle9669@reddit
Honestly, I dont think that Panto would translate very well to the American side of the pond. They are extremely codified to start off with due to men playing women and women playing men. And they can be incredibly risque. Lots of jokes that fly straight over kids head but the adults in the room would get. America seems to be a bit "oh wont someone think of the children" for panto and it would end up far to "correct", Its not meant to be correct.
UnspeakableGnome@reddit
Imigaine Rocky Horror Picture Show if the story was based on a fairy tale and the expected audience included a lot of children.
That's panto.
Sullysbriefcase@reddit
It's a sort of play, usyally of a fairy tale or old story like Dick Whittington. Done in a very playful and camp way. It features a lot of innuendo and there will always be mine frmsle characters, like a fairy godmother, played by men in drag, and the main male character will always be played by a woman.
Children love them.
As to why you don't have them in USA? Well you are a completely different culture, and from what I've heard, many yanks have meltdowns about men in drag. You'd probably have simpletons electing fascists to protect their children from the horrors of pantomime
YorkshireMary@reddit
A play based usually on a Fairytale. The most popular is Cinderella.
Leading women's parts like the ugly sisters will be played by men. There is also a pantomime dame played by a man dressed as a woman in really loud clothing.
The pantomime dame is the star and prompts the audience on what to shout out, most popular being "He's behind you" and "Oh no it's not".
There is a varying resemblance to the storyline but it usually ends with a wedding.
At some point the dame will call out children's birthdays and throw sweets into the audience. Sometimes birthday kids get invited on to the stage, where they're likely made fun of.
It's suitable for all ages unless otherwise stated as some Pantomimes are aimed at grownups and contain "adult" jokes
They are good fun and last about 1.5 to 2 hours with a break in the middle for you to buy drinks and snacks.
Depending on which theatre you go to there may be some famous soap stars amongst the cast.
Amateur ones will be cheaper with non-proffesionals playing.
There are also Rock and Roll pantos. These are great with well known hit songs in them.
Besides Cinderella look for Aladin and Jack and The Beanstalk.
They usually run from the beginning of December to the first week in January with evening and a couple of afternoon matinées. The price varies on which showing you go to. Wednesday afternoon will be cheaper than Saturday evening.
If you want to go, you need to get booked in around now.
Hope you have fun!
Narrator_neville@reddit
English version of WWE , goodies and baddies are well defined and the ‘look out he’s behind you’ attack is the staple of crowd interaction
Boldboy72@reddit
An American adult may find it more confusing than anything. Thing appear to go wrong, this is on purpose but Americans are more used to slick perfect productions so they see more tragedy than comedy, their children will absolutely love it though.
Tommy Cooper struggled in America because they couldn't figure out why this magician was famous when all his tricks appeared to go wrong... they didn't understand that it was the joke and that whilst an accomplished magician, Tommy was a comedian.
holdawayt@reddit
"Hi, I'm an American and I have a question for you all".
OH NO YOU DON'T!!! Hahahahahahhahahahahahahhhaaaaa
TheHornyGoth@reddit
Oh yes he does!
Particular_Captain27@reddit
Oh no he doesn't
E420CDI@reddit
Is this going to be five minutes or the full half hour?
Possible-Highway7898@reddit
OH YES THEY DO!
Knightoftherealm23@reddit
This made me snort laugh
Longjumping_Bar_6128@reddit
This had me cackling. Well done.
Electricbell20@reddit
Take a fairytale and make it funnier and aimmed for kids and make it into a play
Add in audience participation and plenty of 4th wall breaks.
Add in some cross dressing, panto dame
Questionable acting
Normally a local celebrity will be involved, my head teacher was the panto dame one year
Then you want innuendo for the adults.
Overall it a big bit of fun
E420CDI@reddit
Oh, no, he wasn't!!
E420CDI@reddit
Brian: "Don't let anyone tell what to do! Otherwise... Ow! No! No!"
Brian's Mother: [dragging Brian off] "All right, all right, that's enough, that's enough."
Crowd: "Ooooooh, that wasn't a minute!!"
Brian's Mother: "Oh, yes it was!"
Crowd: "Oh, no, it wasn't!!"
Brian's Mother: "Now, stop that! And go away!"
Throwawaylife1984@reddit
Fairy tales acted as comedies mainly for family entertainment
TobsterVictorSierra@reddit
Oh no you're not.
BlackEyedV@reddit
A panto is a show primarily aimed at adults with risqué humour and bawdy jokes, disguised as a children's show because it is framed in a traditional tale. Generally, there is wild overacting, knowing nods to the audience and much breaking of the fourth wall, lots of audience interaction to 'help' the bad guy get their comeuppance - e.g. shouting Behind you, and Oh no you didn't, and other such nonsense.
Kids never used to notice the innuendo, but these days, I'm not so sure it's for adults only. We stopped taking our young children because it seemed so inappropriate last time I went.
majorlittlepenguin@reddit
Oh no it isn't
BlackEyedV@reddit
😆
MINKIN2@reddit
For those of us who grew up with the Carry On movies and the like, we got the innuendo.
Sea-Environment5246@reddit
They're plays, with songs.
Usually a classic fairytale, (Cindarella, Jack & The Beanstalk, Aladdin etc)
They're for the whole family, with jokes for tiny children up to their grandparents. They're funny, loud, Slapstick, silly and full of jokes and innuendo. (Often adding local in-jokes!)
Audience interaction, 4th Wall Breaking or sometimes outright corpsing is entirely allowed and normal.
They're performed professionally or as amature productions, and usually around Christmas or New Year.
They have a common cast of character tropes and jokes. Cheer the Hero, Boo the Villain!
Is the villain creeping around on stage? Shout "He's behind you!!"
Male Leads (Prince Charming!) are usually played by women. (Less so now, but more likely in am dram productions).
There's ALWAYS a Dame (Widow Twankey, Dick Whittington's Mum, Cindarella's Fairy Godmother etc) who is ALWAYS a man in Drag. (Long long before anyone made a fuss!)
I was in a village panto. On the last night we switched a shot glass of water (the character was meant to hold it in her mouth) with Vodka...
Fun times.
a1thalus@reddit
Here’s the straight history of pantomime — from its ancient roots to the modern British Christmas tradition.
The word pantomime comes from the Greek pantomimos — meaning “imitator of everything” (pan = all, mimos = imitator). In classical Greece and Rome, it referred to a solo masked performer who acted out a story through gesture, dance, and movement, while a chorus or musicians narrated or sang the dialogue. Roman pantomime in particular — popular during the reigns of Augustus and Nero — featured mythological themes, expressive masks, and grand gestures. These performances were highly stylised, often tragic, and aimed at showing emotion through physicality rather than speech.
Source: Webster, T. B. L. Greek Theatre Production. London: Methuen, 1970. Beacham, Richard C. The Roman Theatre and Its Audience. Harvard University Press, 1991.
After the fall of Rome, the tradition didn’t die — it shifted. In medieval Europe, mummers’ plays, masks, and folk drama kept the spirit alive. Travelling bands of performers acted out short comical scenes during festivals like Christmas and Twelfth Night. The stock characters — the Fool, the Hero, the Doctor, Death — were forerunners of what became pantomime roles.
These performances were rough, moral, and bawdy — relying on slapstick and improvisation, with deep folk roots rather than classical theatre.
Source: Chambers, E. K. The Medieval Stage. 2 vols. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1903. Hutton, Ronald. The Stations of the Sun: A History of the Ritual Year in Britain. Oxford University Press, 1996.
The next big leap came from Italian commedia dell’arte, a travelling street theatre form that spread across Europe in the 1500s. Its stock characters — Harlequin (the cunning servant), Columbine (his clever sweetheart), Pantaloon (the miserly old man), and Pierrot (the sad clown) — became central to pantomime. Commedia was lively, improvised, and physical — a direct ancestor to pantomime’s slapstick and chase scenes.
When Italian troupes performed in France and England, they blended their masks and physical comedy with local music, dance, and farce. By the 1600s–1700s, this mix evolved into a distinct stage form in London theatres — part ballet, part comic sketch, part spectacle.
Source: Rudlin, John. Commedia dell’Arte: An Actor’s Handbook. Routledge, 1994. Nicoll, Allardyce. Masks, Mimes and Miracles: Studies in the Popular Theatre. London: Harrap, 1931.
Pantomime became a distinctly British institution during the 18th century. Early versions, known as Harlequinades, were based on the Harlequin and Columbine stories — full of magical transformations, slapstick chases, and trick scenery. The transformation scene (where ordinary settings turned to fairyland) became a staple.
John Rich, an actor-manager at Lincoln’s Inn Fields Theatre, was crucial — he performed as Harlequin and popularised the word pantomime for these mixed shows of dance, mime, and spectacle. By the late 1700s, playwrights like David Garrick and Charles Dibdin added spoken dialogue, topical jokes, and fairy-tale plots.
Source: Nicoll, Allardyce. A History of English Drama, 1660–1900. Vol. 1. Cambridge University Press, 1952. Speaight, George. The History of the English Puppet Theatre. George G. Harrap, 1955.
The Victorian era turned pantomime into a Christmas family entertainment. Traditional Harlequinades merged with fairy tales and nursery stories — Cinderella, Aladdin, Dick Whittington, Jack and the Beanstalk. The shows became elaborate — with lavish scenery, songs, topical political jokes, and audience participation.
The “Principal Boy” (a young woman playing the hero) and “Pantomime Dame” (a man playing a comic motherly woman) were established conventions by the mid-1800s. Music-hall comedians began to dominate, blending song, dance, parody, and improvisation.
Source: Speaight, George. The History of the English Pantomime. London: George G. Harrap, 1949. Booth, Michael R. Victorian Spectacular Theatre, 1850–1910. Routledge, 1981.
By the 20th century, pantomime had become the definitive British Christmas show. The Harlequinade vanished, but the fairy-tale core remained. Modern pantomime kept the cross-dressing tradition, slapstick comedy, singalongs, and call-and-response (“He’s behind you!”). Celebrity casting became common from the 1960s onward. Despite modernisation, pantomime still carries traces of ancient ritual — inversion of gender, seasonal misrule, and rebirth themes from winter festivals.
Source: Cochrane, Claire. Twentieth-Century British Theatre: Industry, Art and Empire. Cambridge University Press, 2011. Billington, Michael. The 101 Greatest Plays: From Antiquity to the Present. Faber & Faber, 2015.
Summary
Pantomime’s lineage is clear and layered:
Ancient mime (gesture-based myth reenactment) →
Medieval folk performance (mummers, fools) →
Commedia dell’Arte (stock characters, improvisation) →
18th-century English Harlequinade (transformation scenes, slapstick) →
Victorian fairy-tale spectacle (cross-dressing, music, topical jokes) →
Modern Christmas pantomime, Britain’s living folk theatre.
mildlydiverting@reddit
There’s a very good writeup of the history on the V&A Museum website
https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-story-of-pantomime
It’s full of glorious Victorian pictures.
(I wonder if anyone has written on the relationship between Panto and Carry On films?)
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much
Hopeful_Sweet5238@reddit
So it's like Boxing Day - it's a (mainly) Victorian invention, you'd gone your own way by then!
NotYourGa1Friday@reddit
Follow up! Is this where the horse costume that requires two people gets the name “pantomime horse”? If so—- how many pantos have pintos? 🐴
Dyrenforth@reddit
Look on youtube, there's plenty there and lots of explanations,
bunnymama7@reddit
It's hell
New-account-01@reddit
Is there any on YouTube?
Swarovski_8X20B@reddit
It is kind of naff, a little kitsch. People sometimes break the fourth wall and thy have corny jokes. I am sure you got similar stuff in the US.
Majestic_Rhubarb_@reddit
If you are MAGA and have the slightest hint of trans/homo/phobia I’d recommend you don’t attend one.
Proof_Cat_6742@reddit
They're really shit, but also a part of our collective consciousness, if you want. It's usually based on a classic fairytale, one of the Disney ones, but occasionally they're about Dick Whittington or someone else. There's a Dame, which is an unusually camp man in a wig, who makes a lot of jokes about washing her bloomers. I don't enjoy them, they're really bad theatre. They are sort of base level. Very broad, if that makes any sense.
jellomatic@reddit
Family show with drag leads and lots of risque jokes. Had a very religious colleague from Utah working in herts with his many children ask for UK Christmas stuff to do. He was a nice guy but walked out because of the "sexual content" in front of the kids. The nature of panto means I have no idea if this was a wild overreaction or not.
baldeagle1991@reddit
It's a drag show based on fairy tales, with a shit ton of innuendo and sometimes they throw sweets at the audience.
People complain about drag queens being a bad influence on kids, but don't appreciate it's been a cornerstone of British culture for the last 300-300 years.
Responsible-Sale-467@reddit
Is it fair to call it a drag show? Obviously they usually features a key performance in drag, but it’s not generally a drag show type performance, it’s closer to Tyler Perry or Bisson Buddies, no?
baldeagle1991@reddit
To be fair, a British Panto is far closer to a drag show than Tyler Perry or Bussom Buddies.
As an adult I was extremely surprised how much sexual content in pantos flew over my head as a kid.
Spoke to my mother about it, and she said it always had been like that.
jellomatic@reddit
In your endo.
Accomplished_Fix5702@reddit
OP. I posted a link to a clip of David Hasselhof playing Hook earlier, and here is a related article you may find interesting.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/features/us-stars-in-uk-panto-from-david-hasselhoff-to-jerry-hall-9940974.html
Cute_Ad_9730@reddit
Good luck making any explainable sense out of this. Anyone ?
TaffWaffler@reddit
I’ll give it a go. Ahem. Op, a panto is like a campy stage play that focuses on comedy and family fun. Crowd interactions are a core tenet of the experience. It relies on a known answer for the audience. For instance, if a good guy is looking for a bad guy on stage, and the bad guy is behind him, the good guy will ask “where is x”
Audience- “HES BEHIND YOU”
Good guy- “what?”
audeince- “HES BEHIND YOU”
Good guy will spin around to see the baddie, and likely give the audience a little wink or thumbs up for their help.
WaldenFont@reddit
Where does the horse come in? I’ve heard a lot about the pantomime horse.
Downtown_Physics8853@reddit
Monty Python once had a "Pantomime Princess Margaret"...........
chamekke@reddit
New ambition for Halloween costume unlocked!
incrediblepepsi@reddit
It's yet another opportunity for rude jokes, one person is the head, and the other is the ass!
Cute_Ad_9730@reddit
Well obviously there has to be a horse because.....the horse is.........? traditionally.....I've no idea why there is a horse.
fozzy_bear42@reddit
Because they couldn’t afford two empty halves of a coconut?
Oghamstoner@reddit
It’s two people wearing a horse costume, one in front of the other.
TaffWaffler@reddit
Uhhhh ask the audience
iamabigtree@reddit
At the moment they turn around the baddie will hide and they will shrug that they didn't see them. Repeat for several rounds.
GoldFreezer@reddit
And when the audience shout: "He's behind you!" and they turn round and he hides, the character will say:
"Oh no he isn't!"
To which the audience will reply: "Oh yes he is!"
Also repeat for several rounds.
Cantdecide1207@reddit
"Oh no he doesn't"
mrbullettuk@reddit
Oh yes he does
Cantdecide1207@reddit
Americans reading this sub thinking we're all on crack 🤣
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
It’s ok lol! You’re good! Actually this sounds like fun!
Cantdecide1207@reddit
It's kind of a right of passage as a kid in the UK.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Ughh I need to watch it now! Idk why we don’t have them in the states! It sounds like a blast
Hazeylicious@reddit
Craic is good though
pjc50@reddit
Yes, going straight through the fourth wall is a key part of the humor. Usually you have one or two characters which are played "straight", while the villain and the Dame (in drag, very panto, very not American) are doing vaudeville, bantering with the audience, making sarcastic jokes about the other characters, and generally not getting on with the show.
Meta humor about how rubbish the show you are currently in is very British. Wogan used to do it a lot.
StirlingS@reddit
Is that meta humor thing where the appeal of The Goes Wrong Show comes from? I did not get that at all, but my tame Yorkshireman seemed to love it.
anabsentfriend@reddit
Boooo Hissss
abyssal-isopod86@reddit
And don't forget the drag.
Knightoftherealm23@reddit
But the good guy is a woman dressed as a man and there will also be a lady who is a man called the dame in exaggerated make up. Also the good guy being a woman is never addressed it just is
New_Vegetable_3173@reddit
This is going to be hilarious. I have literally no idea how to describe it.
Infinite_Crow_3706@reddit
Oh no it isn't
thesaharadesert@reddit
Oh yes it is!
BigJDizzleMaNizzles@reddit
Ohhhhhhhh no it isn't!
Disastrous_Fill_5566@reddit
Ohhhhhh yes it iiiiis!
Living-Excuse1370@reddit
Ohhh noooo It isn't!!!!
Disastrous_Fill_5566@reddit
HE'S BEHIND YOU!
Used-Needleworker719@reddit
Oh no he’s not
Disastrous_Fill_5566@reddit
Yeah, so OP. It's like this.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! I’ve actually been to a play like that!
Living-Excuse1370@reddit
OH NO IT'S NOT!!
New_Vegetable_3173@reddit
Ohmigod this is chaos lmao
Downtown_Physics8853@reddit
Like comedia dell'arte, but British?
MoghediensWeb@reddit
Like comedia dell’arte but with a bit where they throw sweets into the audience?
ElectricalPick9813@reddit
And a minor soap star. And a couple of pop songs with the lyrics changed about with some weak puns.
Specific-Sundae2530@reddit
That's what it evolved from
Cute_Ad_9730@reddit
This is actually a really interesting description of historic comedy theatre traditions and definitely is related to modern pantomime.
Commedia dell'arte - Wikipedia
HMSWarspite03@reddit
Oh yes you can......
Ok-Tax2530@reddit
Biggins is the best ever panto dame!
ignatiusjreillyXM@reddit
Oh no he's not!
Estebesol@reddit
If you've ever been to a Purim shpiel, that's similar.
dark_sparklex@reddit
One thing people don’t seem to be mentioning here (that I’ve seen) is these theatre productions are not “high budget” they’ll run few a few weeks or months, costumes might be a little tacky, sets will wobble and you won’t have any insane lighting or slick choreography. It’s all a bit “tacky” but that’s the charm of it. You’ll often find a celebrity in major ones - but don’t expect a-list stars it’ll be people who do it for the joy of it. Pantos are often put on by small theatre groups, churches or community and the tickets aren’t west-end rates, designed for the community to enjoy and just have fun
BellaNoStrings@reddit
All I learned when reading these replies is that Pantomime is another word that british people use to sound special when they just mean “play”
JeffTheNth@reddit
it's moreso a play with audience participation and involvement, but not to the level of, for example, a renaissance faire, cosplay or a themed party.
ManiaMuse@reddit
It's basically WWE but without the wrestling.
Swansboy@reddit
It’s essential a family friendly play with inside jokes you enjoy as a kid but adults do enjoy it as well. They are adult versions of pantomimes as well but not as common as family friendly ones. Woman dress up as men and men dress up as a dame. Main character in it, not main characters get a role essential in it but have less costumes changes. Not sure if this parts still goes on but they usually Sprey water on few people in the audience you didn’t know who it would happen to and same was a fake pie that was shaving cream usually and hit someone on face with it. That’s the risk you take going to pantomime, no one is off limits not even kids or old people. My dad got shaving cream pie in the face last time I went to one. At Port Talbot princess theatre, me,my sister & my mother came prepared with light jackets with hoods, as jacket can be washed without less effort than washing your face. My dad didn’t. Swansea grand theatre is great as well but as it’s not London they won’t do Harry Potter and the cursed child, a play as it’s only west end vision of broadway. Most are not musicals but some are. There an app called digital theatre they have lots of plays on there. Not really pantomime style of play where it engages the audience by actually talking to audience. Not all plays do it. I might of gone to another theater around 2005, when I was in primary school might have been Swansea one but it might have been another one which it could have Bristol or Cardiff but don’t remember. I was kid with one of my best friends sitting next to me and grow women kicking my chair & my friend chair, I told her stop once she did for bit then carried on I warned her second time and she stopped kicking my chair but was doing it to my friend chair still which my I again told her to stop it. I assume she stopped but she didn’t as my friend told me afterwards. Not during it if she did I would have got teacher involved but as my friend didn’t tell me until late on I couldn’t do anything.
Sxn747Strangers@reddit
It’s funny theatre with a loose retelling of a fairy story such as Cinderella, Jack and the beanstalk, Babes in the wood, Aladdin or something like that.
The luckless soon to be hero is the Principal Boy and she generally wears a leotard, tights and high boots will find his princess, (I know but stay with me here); and there’s the Pantomime Dame who is typically an overweight old bloke who will generally have a slapstick routine or two.
If it’s a big production at the Bristol Hippodrome for example, (normally used for serious plays), you can expect TV or sports personalities to be involved.
I saw Les Dawson as the Pantomime Dame in something decades ago, the character got fake blown up on stage.
Later on when it was a part of the panto that Les wasn’t supposed to be in, he was popping in and out at the back of the set in singed vest and boxers in a dazed state, with laughter from the audience.
Steve Guttenberg, the devious troublesome cop from the Police Academy films had a period where he had trouble getting work and ended up doing Panto over here; I think he was Baron Hardup in Cinderella, (if I remember correctly), but I may be wrong as it was a few years ago.
There’s audience participation, it is mandatory 🤔🤣 that adults do shout out, “He’s behind you.”, and, “Oh no it isn’t.”, and anything else that is to be shouted.
At some point sweets are likely to get thrown into the audience for the children; also someone from the audience could be asked to ‘help’ on stage at some point.
If done well there is much hilarity for the whole family.
It sounds strange but contrary to popular belief, it has absolutely nothing to do with Woke or LGBT+ or anything like that.
Pantomime’s roots go back hundreds of years, I can’t remember if it’s a British thing or maybe of French origin or even somewhere else.
nasted@reddit
Panto is to theatre what WWF is to sport.
Basically panto is a fairy tale story filled with outlandish costumes, innuendo, tropes and cliches plus a chunk of audience participation all in the name of entertainment.
There’s a few must haves such as a man playing a woman, a woman playing a man, two people dressed up as a horse and singing.
It’s family fun and a secular alternative to a nativity.
Rocky Horror showings are panto-esque in the in-jokes, set-pieces dressing up and predictability albeit with an adults-only twist.
And as I mentioned wrestling has the same energy and theatrics.
kittyl48@reddit
Jesus as a massive Rocky Horror fan that's the only time I've heard Rocky and panto mentioned together!
I get where you're coming from though....
nasted@reddit
Yeah, I was trying to find something American that was a bit Panto and I came up with Rocky Horror and wrestling!
kittyl48@reddit
Rocky Horror is British with a British/Kiwi creator but you're right the film is pretty well known across the pond.
nasted@reddit
Ie - known in America. America didn’t invent wrestling either.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! That actually sounds like fun
bothsidesofthemoon@reddit
This bit might not be a perfect description of what panto is, but it might be the best example used in this thread to get a non-Brit to understand what panto is like, in terms of being over the top, audience participation, it's predictable but everyone laughs because they're in on the joke.
In terms of its style, it's kids entertainment but laced with double entendre they won't understand. Think of the British saucy postcard humour.
On the surface level, it's presented as a fairytale aimed at the younger kids, and the actors ham it up like kids tv presenters. However, it's also non-stop innuendo for the adults that will sail over those kids heads.
Imagine the whole family sitting down to watch something together, only the kids get to see Disney, and the adults get to see Rocky Horror without the kids having a clue.
Informal-Tour-8201@reddit
Doesn't always have to be a horse - Jack and the Beanstalk has a Pantomime Cow
nasted@reddit
I have corrected!
itsfourinthemornin@reddit
Funnily, I had a good period of where I thought they were silly, a bit outdated and stopped seeing them. Most towns have a panto running for the holidays (Christmas). My son's school goes to see it every year over two days (two year groups at a time iirc and a morning one for littlies). Last year's was Cinderella and had Anne Hegerty as the Fairy Godmother - for non-Brits (mostly) she's a chaser (think of a 'boss' you have to beat) on the TV quiz show 'The Chase' - my son likes The Chase too. He wouldn't not stop talking about Anne being there and wanting to go again. So off we went (oh no we didn't) (oh yes we did!). I had a great time. Anne is back again for this years local panto too, this year is Beauty & The Beast! I'm looking forward to panto again!
Holiday-Poet-406@reddit
It's a stage show, typically based arround a downtroden hero played for laughs often with several of the cast being cross gendered. If done well it's laugh out loud funny. If done badly it's two hours of your life you won't get back.
RhubarbDiva@reddit
I used to live in a small Yorkshire seaside town which put on a charity panto every year.
We couldn't get a celeb, but the Lady Mayoress would have a cameo where she usually got a custard pie to the face, which she took with great good humour and dignity.
The local rugby club blokes would come on in full kit and sparkly tutus to do a comic version of either swan lake or sugar plum fairy.
It was a tourist town so there was always someone dressed as a typical tourist wandering onto the stage and doing something silly.
The lifeboat crew usually had to rescue either said daft tourists or one of the main characters.
Local businesses would get a shout out. I'm sure they donated handsomely for that!
Of course, the audience participation was key. And all the expected shenanigans occurred until the finale where the hero and heroine get married.
I mostly helped with the costumes so never went on stage except at the end when the 'back stage crew' got a mention. Huge fun.
Ok-Pumpkin-6203@reddit
For most people, it's their first introduction to theatre as the shows are very family orientated.
Yikes44@reddit
Panto grew out of the Italian Commedia dell'arte with very slapstick content, sterotypical comedy characters and lots of audience participation. These days is aimed mostly at kids but a good one will be full family entertainment with lost of adult jokes in there too. It's good fun. A lot of minor celebs will do seasons in Panto over Christmas. There are several different franchises that put on the pantos in London and some are bettter than others. If you're ever over here and want to go, I recommend the one at Hammersmith.
thehoneybadger1223@reddit
Its a bit like an interactive theatre production. So people are acting, usually a well known story, out live on stage. Typically at Christmas it's something like Cinderella or Aladdin or Narnia, and they act out the story. They get the audience involved by asking questions which prompt the audience to answer. An example is, during Cinderella, they'll prompt the audience to shout Boo or to Hiss when the ugly step sisters come on stage, or they'll ask a question like "She looks beautiful, doesn't she boys and girls?" And the audience would be expected to shout yes.
In the olden days, they used to flick cards at the audience or spray water pistols at them to get a reaction but that doesn't typically happen now, the interaction between performers and audience is generally vocal. It's great fun
Specific_Koala_2042@reddit
The Rock 'n Roll Panto in Liverpool still has the audience being sprayed with water, usually from water blasters. It takes place in the Empire Theatre, which is nearly in the round, and the actors go to the back of the theatre to spray audience members, or to throw sweets out, as well as aiming at the front rows.
Other details that people have missed out include the fact that the 'goodies' are always working class, often very poor. The 'baddies' are always rich, upper class, eg Evil Viziers, Evil Ice Queen, Evil Baron.
The baddie always wants to impose their will on the heroes.
The Principal Boy, (traditionally a girl, dressed as a boy), will often be imprisoned and need rescuing.
The content is generally in the tradition of Musical Theatre, and will involve singers, dancers, comedians, and speciality acts such as animal acts, or magic.
Panto humour, in addition to lots of silly 'Dad jokes' and innuendo, (that you really hope that the children don't understand!), also includes a lot of physical humour, (think early Laurel and Hardy, or Charlie Chaplin), with people carrying long planks across the stage, or buckets of 'water', (often confetti).
There should always be plenty of audience participation, with call and response sections, to keep the audience involved.
The performance also often includes gymnastics, such as characters somersaulting through the air, or performing dances while suspended from ropes. (Lots of 'Oohs' and 'Aahs' from the audience!)
They can also include set piece dances, which can vary from ballet, to rock 'n roll, to modern. Local dance schools often provide a chorus of young dancers.
The end of the performance should be a sing-along, loads of energy, and a 'feel good' conclusion. Even 'The Baddie' can have a satisfactory ending, but that can vary from being carried away in enormous fake chains, to falling in love with 'The Dame'.
Costumes for 'The Dame' should be increasingly outrageous during the show. They should be brightly coloured, and involve enormous skirts, (large enough for characters to hide underneath, shuffling around on their knees), with hoops or panniers that cause physical mayhem.
Pantomime Dames traditionally wear brightly coloured, striped stockings, and a large wig. The wig will vary from long plaits to a tall, Regency style, powdered wig. Jewellery, and accessories are also extremely large, and overstated, (enormous earrings, massive necklaces that can nearly reach the floor). If they go to bed, they will be dressed in the striped stockings, a floor length, Victorian style nightshirt, with either a head full of curlers, or an old fashioned nightcap, with a tassle.
In comparison, 'The Heroine' will be dressed in a beautiful, tasteful, dress at the end, and always in simple costumes.
In essence, it is a morality play. Good defeats evil. Evil is overthrown, or learns their lesson. By working together, the poor, the downtrodden, and the weak, can defeat their enemies and improve their lives. Evil never triumphs.
Oh, and if you wash a tub of clothes, during a pantomime, they will come out tied together, in a line long enough to cover the stage!
Acceptable-Pear2021@reddit
As a lot of people have said, it has to be based on a fairy tale or children's story. There are only so many that can be done. Aladdin, Peter Pan, Cinderella.
Whilst it is ostensibly aimed at children, a lot of the jokes are a bit risque.
The principal boy is always played by a woman, and the dames are always played by men, in a bit of old fashioned drag.
There is a lot of singing and dancing, usually a sing-along section and audience participation. You are expected to boo and hiss and the villain, who will react and tell you not to and that he's not as bad as all that.
There's usually a section where kids are brought onto the stage and where sweets are thrown into the audience for the children to catch. Children are allowed and expected to get over excited.
There are set jokes which must be included which involve audience participation because we expect them and are ready with the responses.
There's lots of colour, lights and silliness.
The whole celebrity involvement is modern and IMO spoils it (because they are often not great performers).
It's a big money spinner for the theatres because they will have full houses for the full run, which is why many do now include a celebrity as an extra draw
Zos2393@reddit
When we’re say a man in drag it’s not super glam like Drag Race it’s obviously a man, often middle aged and a bit overweight playing it for laughs.
Appropriate-Bad-9379@reddit
I prefer the professional city/ big name panto as the special effects etc are spot on.Very expensive though ( matinees are cheaper) I have a friend who prefers local/ regional amateur productions ( a lot less expensive). Try both-you’ll enjoy them ( taking a child is optional)….
simmyawardwinner@reddit
imagine a cheesy play where the characters are larger than life, and theres always a villain and classic lines like 'where is he?!' and the audience shout 'he's behind you!'
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Omg that sounds like fun
simmyawardwinner@reddit
its fun but it can be really family oriented and cheesy. they also do adult facing ones that are more risque and cheeky lol
AlternativePrior9559@reddit
I live elsewhere in Europe now as Brit but my annual treat is to splash out and go to see the Palladium panto every year with my good friend who lives in Scotland so we use it as a weekend catch up — and, of course, to see the inimitable Julian Clary.
The pantomime at the Palladium bears no resemblance to the actual story whatsoever, in fact last year Sir Ian McKinnon made a 3 minute guest appearance in a chariot for no reason whatsoever other than to delight the audience !
Years ago, when I was an actress, I was the Spirit of the Trees in Red Riding Hood😂 Pantomimes are fun to watch and phenomenally fun to be in! Happy days.
soozdreamz@reddit
The one we go to has a bit more audience participation than most - all the children in the audience are invited up on stage at one point to play the bucket game (musical chairs played with buckets to sit on).
We’ve also had seats quite close to the stage a few times - one year the dame shouted out to my husband, “Are you married?” And when he answered yes, pointed at me and enquired, “is THAT it?”.
We also had seats one year in the last row of the stalls, so there was an aisle behind us. One of the cast came up behind my husband, took his baseball cap off, plopped a paper plate covered in squirty cream on his head, and put his hat back on!
TwpMun@reddit
The right wing would lose their minds, pantos have men dressed as women
cardew-vascular@reddit
We have them in Canada around Christmas. I know the Metro theatre in Vancouver is doing Cinderella this year.
kebabby72@reddit
Watched one as a kid and Sooty and Sweep were in it. Sweep, being the naughty dog he is, stole the policeman's truncheon and proceeded to beat the shit out of everyone with it. It was absolute chaos and not even sure it was part of the script. The bloke operating Sweep, was completely visible.
Specialist-Web7854@reddit
They are like this: https://youtu.be/CdA_6BtsXko?si=Ugqt-yKA3uGFCsdX
TheDarkestStjarna@reddit
It's a play with a series of conventions and traditions, that just... are.
It's based on a traditional fairytale, such as Snow White, Cindarella etc.
Characters include the fairy godmother, the pantomime dame (played by a man, usually with ridiculously over the top costumes), the sidekick to the dame, the baddie, the hero (played by a woman) and the heroine.
There's a fairly standard narrative structure, but with a lot of talking to the audience and getting them to interact. "I've been asked to look after this diamond ring, but I'm worried the baddie will steal it. Will you shout if you see him?" etc.
The fairy always enters stage right and the baddie always enters stage left.
There's innuendo for the adults and slapstick for everyone.
There's usually a scene where a cake is baked, or laundry is done and it's just messy. (The comedy comes from stuff being sploshed around).
The dame falls in love, but ends up heartbroken.
There's a ghost dance, where a ghost appears at the back of the scene scaring off everyone one by one until only the dame is left
There's a big song at the end where the audience joins in; usually, the words are displayed on a massive scroll on the stage. Then the audience get split down the middle and have a competition to see who can sing it the loudest/fastest.
To anyone outside the UK who's not grown up with panto, it seems utterly bonkers. To us it's just normal level bonkers. If you get the chance to see one, you really should.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! Actually that sounds like fun!
TheDarkestStjarna@reddit
I think it is. I did say elsewhere in the thread, but I didn't realise how much there was to it until we took a Swedish friend of mine a few years ago.
Bigger cities and theatres will have more famous actors in the lead roles, but that doesn't automatically make them a better show. Basically, if you come and visit the UK any time in December, you'll be able to find one.
missmotivator@reddit
“Pantomime: A particularly British family show. Men and women play interchangeable gender roles for some of the parts. Normally performed at Christmas with fading celebrities in starring roles. Although cheesy, they are popular and are often a child’s first introduction to theater. If you attend a pantomime as an adult without desiring to poke one’s own eyes out, I salute you.”
— Put The Kettle On: An American’s Guide to British Slang, Telly and Tea by Trish Taylor
https://a.co/gr6amX6
Monsterofthelough@reddit
I’m an adult and I went to a panto last Christmas and loved it, but I’m not sure I could stick it every single year.
TheDarkestStjarna@reddit
We took a Swedish friend of mine a couple of years ago and it was only then, I realised how much more there is to it than colourful costumes, songs and a bit of innuendo.
Monsterofthelough@reddit
I do like the fact that there’s so much tradition to it but it also absorbs lots of popular culture and is very inclusive.
TheDarkestStjarna@reddit
Yeah, I agree.
glittermaniac@reddit
I love it and insist on going every year. My parents and husband humour me, but this year my brother and sister in law put their foot down and so they are babysitting our 1 year old!
-Londoneer-@reddit
Except that they tend to work on more levels than for kids… lots of double entendres, audience participation and it’s supposed to be a bit cringeworthy.
Monsterofthelough@reddit
Yeah I went to one in Hackney last year and at one point the Dame was dressed as a pepper pot. ‘Where’d you get that outfit?’ ‘On Grindr.’
That_Northern_bloke@reddit
That's hilarious
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
I do not get it. Is there some association in Britain between stew and gay pick ups that I am missing?
Mumique@reddit
A pepper pot is a receptacle for peppercorns that can be pre-ground or ground on exiting through a pepper grinder.
However we all know what Grindr is. The implication is that the cross-dressing Dame has been on Grindr; the humour is in the ridiculous idea of buying a pepper pot outfit on a gay sex app and also the play on words between pepper grinder and Grinder. It's a sort of subversive nod to LGBTQ+ folks and also just silly.
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
I only know pepper pot as a stew. I never heard it used to refer to a grinder.
I even googled and the stew is all I found listed.
Thanks for clearing up what I should have been able to infer.
-Londoneer-@reddit
Never heard of pepper pot as a stew. Definitely a grinder here.
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
We call the grinder a pepper mill in the US.
Here is what the google search found.
https://www.google.com/search?q=pepper+pot&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS1164US1164&oq=Pep&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDggCEEUYJxg7GIAEGIoFMgYIABBFGDkyEAgBEC4YxwEYsQMY0QMYgAQyDggCEEUYJxg7GIAEGIoFMg0IAxAuGIMBGLEDGIAEMgoIBBAAGLEDGIAEMgoIBRAAGLEDGIAEMgoIBhAAGLEDGIAEMhAIBxAuGMcBGLEDGNEDGIAEMgcICBAAGI8CMgcICRAAGI8C0gEJNjg3MGoxajE1qAIIsAIB8QW-lUKR526mjw&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Either_Reality3687@reddit
Amazon.co.uk : pepper grinder https://share.google/K4VsR5uJMMTHksWR2
This is a grinder I guess you'd call them pepper mill
The_edref@reddit
Is it this dish that came up - https://www.seriouseats.com/guyanese-pepperpot-recipe-5222656 , Your link just does a google search which will be changed by regional biases of google.
This sounds amazing, but surprises me as most recipes seem to have several hard to find ingredients
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
It was a few dozen recipes that came up. But they mostly are like the one you linked to.
illarionds@reddit
A pepper pot is literally a pot... for pepper. There are thousands of them on Amazon, for example, which was the first or second Google result for me.
I've never heard of a stew called "pepper pot".
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
It did not show up for me at all. Even in images all I saw was the stew.
And amazon mostly shows pots to grow peppers in. With a few little pots for salt and pepper--not any of them with a grinder.
I did not realize how much our searches vary by country.
illarionds@reddit
A pepperpot doesn't necessarily have a grinder (though it can) - the little shaker you would get alongside salt in a cafe would also be a pepperpot.
You're not wrong about the searches varying though!
Mumique@reddit
There's a British school rhyme about it.
"Don't put your muck in our dustbin."
Do a search online for 'One bottle of pop' and you can listen to it! The lyrics include 'fish and chips and vinegar, pepper-pepper-pepper pot."
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
Now that you call it to mind, I remember this from my childhood in the US. But here it all plays as nonsense lyrics with no real meaning.
Mumique@reddit
It is a nonsense rhyme to be fair. Gibberish set to rhyme about an argument with a neighbour over putting their stuff in your bin and then a treat of fish and chips, random condiments and a drink. I always imagined it as being kids singing to themselves what they heard their parents say and then thinking about the afternoon treat.
Monsterofthelough@reddit
Thanks for explaining this to the person who asked :). I should have avoided confusion by just saying pepper grinder lol but then I’d have had ‘grinder’ and Grindr in the same sentence.
PrimaryLawfulness@reddit
A pepper grinder is used to grind pepper which would be the alternative to pre ground pepper in a pepper pot.
And now I’ve typed pepper too many times
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
It sounds like you also thought it referred to the stew. But someone cleared up that "pepper pot" is also a term for the pepper grinder itself.
warmslippers12345@reddit
Haha that's brilliant
Either_Reality3687@reddit
It's just a fun day out. I remember one when the hero asked if the big spider web should he touched everyone shouting no don't he did anyway and got stuck.
https://youtu.be/ubhBI8E_IDU?si=U7p19Z2oumN7EruJ
MiTcH_ArTs@reddit
It is camp "family" fun that is fabulously terrible, laced with innuendo and adult humor to amuse the parents and chaotic fairytale fun for the young kids and irreverent puns and fart jokes to entertain the teens/tweens that get dragged along. Audience participation is encouraged (it was better when they threw sweets and favours at the audience)
Think Rocky Horror Picture Show (live screening) but with fairytales and a kindergarten rateing, instead of "horror" and R rated transexual transylvanians
There is songs to sing along with, catch phrases to yell at the stage, panto dames (men in outrageous drag) principle boys (women crossdressed) bad jokes, dad jokes, blue jokes and the total destruction of the fourth wall mayhem and chaos all round
TeaMaleficent2103@reddit
We have been doing an adult panto since 2018 in NYC! www.nycpanto.com - this year is The Wizard of Oz, Nov 22-Dec 20 at the Parkside Lounge. I’m American and was introduced to Pantos when I lived in England and attended drama school there. I met my British husband at said drama school and now we live in NYC and do an annual panto that he writes and I produce! Come see us, it’s a lot of fun! @nycpanto on Instagram and Tik Tok
Popular_Speed5838@reddit
“BEHIND YOU!”
SAUR-ONE@reddit
The word pantomime is Greek and means the act of imitating everything.
Jo-Wolfe@reddit
They wouldn't be allowed in the US. - Aimed at children and has men in women's clothes notably the Dame who is OTT - The lead boy is a girl who falls in love with a girl who is a girl. - Jokes are full of innuendo and if cleverly written adults and children will laugh at the same joke but for different reasons. - Fourth wall very much a feature and audience participation is a key part of the performance. - 'It's behind you' - 'Oh no it isn't' 'Oh yes it is'
Tremendous fun.
Fine-University-8044@reddit
Like Saturday Night Live dress up skits, but based on fairy tales.
seola76@reddit
This is really hard to explain in full because pantomimes are very complicated culturally. There's a lot of rules, or at least recurring features, that aren't immediately obvious. I'll have a go at explaining it but there are things I'll miss.
In principle it's a comedy play with the story being a fairy tale, think Cinderella, Robin hood or Jack in the beanstalk. On a surface level it's aimed at children but there are frequently lots of subtle adult jokes that can be quite inappropriate for children because really it's a full family event. It's absolutely not a serious play- there's lots of third wall breaking, audience participation and out of character behaviour. A pantomime is more about the experience than the story.
Common features are:
A set list of stories. New pantomime stories aren't really a thing, there's a list of stories and it's almost certainly one of these.
The main hero is a young man played by a woman.
One of the characters will be a Dame. This is an old woman, usually a large motherly character, played by a man. The actor exaggerates a lot of female features, big chest, lots of make up, shrill voice, flamboyant behaviour. Exaggerated stereotypes and the audience awareness that it's a man is a source of a lot of the cheeky humour. A character being attracted to the Dame is often a source of the jokes.
Audience participation will involve things like asking the audience to keep an eye out for characters (the origin of "he's behind you") or arguing with the audience is common. Out of character jokes are extremely common, despite being set in a fantastical history setting it's pretty common for there to be jokes about local or current events. It wouldn't be surprising to have the Cinderella character make a joke about a supermarket, a local football team or a current national event.
Characters are extremely archetypal. There will be a hero, there will be a love interest that needs saving, there will be a moustache twirling villain who is comedically evil, there will be a villain's assistant who is often incompetent, there's usually a good character who's extremely stupid who sets up a lot of jokes.
Humour is simplistic, lots of physical jokes and slapstick. The adult jokes are usually at least somewhat carried by the fact it's an inappropriate joke in a family setting.
There's usually an element of singing.
Big pantomimes often have celebrities playing characters.
MolassesInevitable53@reddit
Pantomime - Wikipedia https://share.google/Dgk0C1Rvb4d9sc7uO
Defiant-Tackle-0728@reddit
Some cities, do have a more traditional panto suitable for all the family.
But there is also a growing traditional of a different/smaller venue doing an "adult only" panto.
For example in Belfast the "big" panto with May McFetteridge (John Linehan's drag persona) is at the Grand Opera House - this year is Pinnochio.
The Adult Panto - this year is Red Riding Hoodz is at the Waterfront Hall.
To give you an idea of the adult ones the last two have been "Sleeping with Beauty" and "Jack and his Belfast Beanstalk"
incrediblepepsi@reddit
There are many good explanations of panto in the comments so I won't repeat them, but the reason you don't have them in America is because they are quintessentially British culture and sarcastic double- entendre humour. And also very, very camp.
The British are aware, having grown up with pantomime, that watching a pantomime dame isn't going to make their child trans/gay (because we all grew up with it and we are not all trans or gay).
Can't imagine that would be the norm across the USA.
Gelkoid@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14lN-hlIavc
Unusual_Entity@reddit
It's usually an adaptation of a well-known story. Think Aladdin, Puss in Boots, Cinderella etc.
There are certain casting conventions which will always be followed: For example, the leading heroic male character (e.g. Aladdin or Prince Charming) will be played by a younger female. The pantomime dame (a larger, older female character such as the Fairy Godmother) will be played by a man of suitable size.
There is a heavy emphasis on audience participation and breaking the fourth wall. So when the main villain comes on stage, the audience are encouraged to boo loudly. Some shows may encourage the audience to join in with a particular song. At least once, a villainous character will be hiding, and (usually the Dame) wonders aloud where he is. It's compulsory to shout out "He's behind you!" to which the response will be an exchange of "Oh no he isn't" (as he hides again) "Oh yes he is!"
As you would expect, this is a show aimed squarely at families with younger children. But also expect plenty of double entendres and innocent-sounding adult humour that goes over the kids' heads. If you've ever seen "Allo, Allo" or a "Carry on..." film, it's not far from that. It's also great fun as long as no one takes anything too seriously.
Old_Introduction_395@reddit
https://share.google/LbCdyRGZm7LtLmR9w
Gloomy_Insurance3203@reddit
Cheesy, innuendo laden and a riot.
I suggest watching one online.
Better with kids or alcohol. It’s frowned upon if you take both.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! That sounds like so much fun
Gloomy_Insurance3203@reddit
If you’re in Canada British expats often put them on. My sister is in NS and says they’re fun but not the real thing
ChaosCockroach@reddit
A pantomime is a stage show for kids, usually based on a fairy tale or other children's story. They will usually have a few typical roles such as pantomime dames, older women characters played by men, and principal boys, younger male characters played by women, and the cast will usually have some celebrities of variable notability. You can find recordings of pantos on YouTube that should give you the idea. There is often a strong emphasis on audience participation usually through set call and response phrases.
deanomatronix@reddit
But it’s often aimed at adults also with cross-dressing and double entendre
E.g “I do love a warm hand upon my entrance” Julian clarey circa 2023
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much
narnababy@reddit
So imagine you go to a musical based on a fairy tale. Think Cinderella, Jack and the beanstalk, sleeping beauty, etc. (they are usually the traditional telling, not the Disney version). The songs in it are usually pop songs with slightly altered lyrics to fit the story, a mixture of contemporary music kids would know and older songs everyone will know and sing-a-long. There is almost always; a prince and princess, a villain, one or two slapstick comedians, a fairy, a pantomime Dame, and various dancers/extras. The Dame is a normally a drag queen and often plays the role of the mother of the main character. The play follows the general plot of the fairytale but adds comedy elements, songs, and a lot of audience participation. There are elements that are relatively traditional, for example a “good” character might be chatting to the audience when the villain enters and “hides”, inciting the audience to shout “he’s behind you!” Along with loud boos and hisses. The good guy will make a bit act of looking, all while the audience is shouting and booing 😂 Pantos are usually aimed at a mixed audience of toddlers up to OAPs and so have a mix of jokes and references (some of them blue for the adults), and they try and get everyone involved, singing, shouting, laughing. It’s a great tradition and if you’re ever in the uk in winter (panto season usually starts in November and goes on well into January) I’d recommend going to one. They’re done in all theatres from the west end to the local AmDram at the community centre. I love a panto me 😂
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! That sounds like so much fun
narnababy@reddit
It really is!
Z-Z-Z-Z-2@reddit
It is something that as a foreigner you pay for once and then put it in the bit of the Brit box labelled “weird shit that makes no sense but somehow Brits like”. It’s cringeworthy theatre if you’ve not been brought up on it.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much
Dry-Education6327@reddit
Kinda same appeal as US wrestling.
Panto is cheesy nonsense with 'ooo misses' baudy jokes 'for the mum's and dads'. Slapstick. Cross-dressing. Actually, I'm liking it more and more as I type. It is ridiculous and you have to leave your critical faculties at the door. It's daft and people enjoy it because it's a chance to just not care about what's clever or cool or stylish or intelligent. A man dressed as a buxom woman will turn their back, bend over, lift their shiny latex dress and show you their fancy bloomers. Everyone is shocked and titliated. And one must hiss and boo the baddie.
We have a fondness for it because it's rather lovely.
And it is one of the oldest sources of memes.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! It sounds like so much fun
Dry-Education6327@reddit
Expect to be underwhelmed. It's like a school play by adults.
Eggtastico@reddit
Its a carry-on film meet fairy tail… but for kids. We have a local adult one. Full of smutty innuendoes. Its great.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much
harrietmjones@reddit
There is no real description to really explain what exactly a panto is. The closest is a playful play based on a fairytale, usually Cinderella.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much
Used-Needleworker719@reddit
It’s a comedy play. Often based on a fairy tale with some songs
It’s very physical humour, with lots of inuendo for kids and adults. Very much focused on “he’s behind you” audience participation. All very tongue in cheek with lots of direct chats to the audience in the middle of it.
There’s also usually a man dressed as a woman who is the panto dame and is the lead character.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! Actually that sounds like fun!
Used-Needleworker719@reddit
I’ve recently got into WWE and I keep saying to my husband how much it’s like a panto.
With the “baddies” and the “goodies” and the audience cheering/booing. And the nod nod wink wink element of “I’m going to be bad but I’m going to have so much fun doing it and be so ridiculous and OTT that you’ll love me for it”
Honestly pantos are ace! They’ll be loads you can watch on YouTube. I’m sure that ITV have televised them before. They get BIG stars in them, for example you could absolutely expect to see sir Ian Mckellen playing the panto dame at the palladium
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Oooh thank you so much! That’s so cool! Like, is that similar to how John Travolta was the mom in hairspray?
Used-Needleworker719@reddit
Yeah very much so.
Cold-Society3325@reddit
And the main young male character is often played by a woman.
Informal-Tour-8201@reddit
Aka the Principal Boy
SwordTaster@reddit
You know plays that happen at a theatre? Like that but VERY silly. Usually based around a children's story (snow white and jack and the beanstalk are common options). Oftentimes the actors will throw candy into the audience, and there's almost guaranteed to be a joke that goes
"Where is X character?"
Audience responds "He's behind you!"
Actor looks and character X will have moved "oh no he isn't "
Character X moves back. Audience responds "oh yes he is"
This continues for up to a few minutes ending with character X being seen.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Ohhh that sounds like fun actually!
SwordTaster@reddit
It's vaguely amusing if it suits your sense of humour. I never really got it and just sat that confused by why people were laughing, but pleased that the school chose to let us out of school to go see it. These days, some theatres also have naughty pantos for adults with a sexual tone. A group of ladies at my work would often set up a trip to go outside of work hours.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Oh really? I’ve actually been to a play like this before! It was based on Snow White and the seven dwarves, and it was actually an adult thing, and it was similar to like the pantomime with audience participation! I’m actually shocked why we don’t have this in the states, (well where I live at least, I live in Rhode Island, near Massachusetts, where the British came)
SwordTaster@reddit
Sounds like it could've been a panto without the label. I agree, it's a little surprising that it's not popular in the US, it seems like it'd pair well with US humour
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Ikr! Like that would be right up our alley with humor! I think it sounds like a blast idk why we don’t do it
SwordTaster@reddit
Not enough eagles
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Yea probably! I swear, idk why we left you guys, like literally yall seem to have amazing stuff
SwordTaster@reddit
Something about kings and tea
MarkWrenn74@reddit
Pantomime is a very British theatrical genre, that's a staple of provincial theatres in the run-up to Christmas. Here's a guide to the basics: https://share.google/A9IxdrraxfvxAuMeQ
I don't think (especially in today's political climate) cross-dressing and innuendo-laden humour (which are frequently found in pantomimes) would go down too well in America…
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much! Actually it sounds like so much fun
MarkWrenn74@reddit
Oh, no, it doesn't 🤣
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Oh yes it does
cari-strat@reddit
Panto, done well, can be utterly magnificent. We saw one at the Grand in Wolverhampton in about 2017 which featured a magnificent slapstick version of The Twelve Days of Christmas and I literally could not breathe from laughing so hard.
Some of the guys playing the male 'funny boy' characters (like Buttons etc) in that era, such as Adam C Booth and Tam Ryan, were absolutely superb.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much!
YourLittleRuth@reddit
Interactive theatre. The “Oh no it isn’t/Oh yes it is!” And the “He’s behind you!” And all sorts of similar stuff are part of the deal.
A fairy story or nursery rhyme retold for comedy. A Princioal Girl (straightish role) A Principal Boy (played by a tall woman in a bum-covering tunic and high boots; there is traditionally thigh-slapping) (straightish role) A Dame (female character played by a man in clownish drag—the main comedy role, usually) A Villain of some sort (usually comedy role) Storyteller: talks to the audience and the characters Others as required by the story.
The script includes a lot of jokes for the adults as well as slapstick and silliness for the kids.
To give you an idea how the roles work out, for ‘Cinderella’ you get: PG: Cinderella PB: Prince Charming Bonus PB: Dandini, the Prince’s sidekick Dame: Two dames, ie the Ugly sisters (I saw a brilliant production which presented them as the AbFab ladies) Villain: there isn’t really one of these but some minor chicanery can be added for comedy Storyteller:: Buttons, Cinderella’s sidekick who is secretly in love with her, and a wimp Extras: Fairy Godmother
Honestly, to get any real idea of this you will have to come over and see one.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
OMG that sounds like so much fun
YourLittleRuth@reddit
It is! I was in an amateur theatre group, and I carefully avoided being in any of the pantos because the idea terrified me, but for those who enjoy a bit of improvising, it's a delight. Sir Ian McKellan played Widow Twankey (the Dame, natch) at The Old Vic in London for at least two years, and from the photos it looked as though he had the time of his life.
Cinderella is the best one, I think: it's a good story and everyone knows it, and, it gives TWO Principal Boys and TWO Dames the chance to have a go.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Idk why we don’t have this in the states! It literally sounds like so much fun
YourLittleRuth@reddit
You would have to 'seed' the audience with British people or it would fall completely flat. Nobody would know the script. (Of all the pantos I've seen, it is never the audience that doesn't know the words.)
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
lol! Actually, surprisingly, there’s a good amount of British immigrants in my small town, which is shocking, since our town is so small and not usually known
kh250b1@reddit
Hes behind you.
Oh no hes not
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Oh yes he is
qualityvote2@reddit
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OH NO IT DOESN’T!
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Oh yes it does
JT_3K@reddit
WELL…WE’LL HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN THEN, WON’T WE
theawesomepurple@reddit
It’s really good fun. Nobody is serious and there is often improvisation and lots of audience participation. Slap stick humour and it’s really silly. Lots of local jokes which is why a local Panto is the best. There is often a lot of innuendo throughout but it’s clean and designed for families so the risky bits go over the children’s heads.
We go every year. I think most people do.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Omg that sounds like so much fun! Idk they don’t do this in the States
Nooby1983@reddit
Have you seen Rocky Horror, how there are specific bits where people yell stuff out and join in? It's like that, but they're traditional fairy stories, and the stuff you yell out and join in with is the same for all pantomimes, not just the story you're watching. They usually star a D list TV or pop celebrity that is way older than the character they're playing, and usually a comedian in drag. It's fun, there's a bit of doubling of the old entendres, and sometimes a song.
I saw Chesney Hawks play Jack from Jack and the Beanstalk in Scunthorpe one time. Met him afterwards at a Chinese buffet around the corner too, nice guy! I thought he'd be more hungry after being on stage all night, but he had the won-ton only.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Yes! Omg that sounds like so much fun
colin_staples@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantomime
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much
CarrotCakeAndTea@reddit
Why aren't you all singing and clapping your knees as the ones on stage get bumped off one by one? Just my local theatre??
OP: Your first experience you'll be like, "WTF just happened?" But if you go to another you'll get into the swing of it, and as long as you surrender yourself to the madness and silliness, you'll have a great time.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Omg it literally sounds like so much fun
essexboy1976@reddit
Basically the story is a comedy version of a fairytale or other children's story, something like snow white, Cinderella, Peter Pan. The male lead character is often played by a woman, and there's a character called a Dame who is always played by a man in drag. There's lots of silly behavior, deliberately hammy acting and breaking of the 4th wall.
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Diddleymaz@reddit
The hero or principal boy, will be a woman dressed up as a very camp man. Lots of leg. The heroine is a girl. There’s a comedy character called the Dame, this is a man in outrageous drag. There will be a fairy or genie, and a slapstick scene where someone gets wet or covered in flour or both. The audience is expected to join in with a well known litany He’s behind you!! Etc. The story is a well known tale, but it is nothing like the version that Disney or similar films have ever shown. Expect versions of popular songs, jokes about recent events and local humour. Panto is completely unique, bonkers and great fun.
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ClickToSeeMyBalls@reddit
Why not just watch one?
https://youtu.be/tTjxGSxkmgQ
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DaisySims@reddit
It's a theatrical show based on a fairytale or well known stories (Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Peter Pan, Beauty and the Beast etc) aimed at children and families
Very colourful and over the top, sometimes with musical numbers Lots of jokes, hammy acting and slapstick comedy
Audience participation is a big part of it - lots of booing when the villain enters, yelling out to help the hero - e.g. "he's behind you!", answering back "oh no there isn't!" / "Oh yes there is"
A panto dame usually stars who is a man in drag and wears very flamboyant outfits The male hero may be played by a woman but I think that's less common now?
There's a big one at the London Palladium every year but a lot of regional theatres and amateur dramatics groups put them on as well
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Oooh that sounds like so much fun
Ser-Cannasseur@reddit
Americans would hate it. It’s full of cross dressing men.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
I actually would love it
Englishbirdy@reddit
I took my American husband to one last Christmas, he loved it, especially watching the children’s reactions.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Omg from what it sounds like, pantos sound like so much fun! Why don’t we have it
Specific-Sundae2530@reddit
Lots of audience interaction, OTT characterisation. Common also is a singalong part, call and response with the audience, someone in drag, a woman performing as a boy. The stories are usually traditional tales like Dick Whittington, Puss in boots, Cinderella... The best thing is to go to one! See if there are videos online but really it's one of those things you have to experience in person. Its origins go back hundreds of years. Usually people go with family, and accordingly the comedy will appeal to all ages.
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Even_Happier@reddit
OP, if you’re anywhere near Seattle the Fremont Players do a panto every year. Sleeping Beauty and the Pea is this year’s.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
Oooh I’ll have to go
BG3restart@reddit
As others have said, it's a comic, musical play based on a fairy tale, often with one or two female roles played by men. There will be lots of singing and dancing and flamboyant costumes. Often the content is very regional, so if, for instance, it's at a theatre in a large city, some of the jokes will be at the expense of neighbouring towns and there might be jokes about the poorer and richer areas of the city. There will often also be some jokes related to current government policy.
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PastorParcel@reddit
It's a comedic play, usually a musical, and usually (loosely) based on a fairy tale.
Imagine if Ru-Paul's drag race did a musical based on Shrek, and the audience all joined in.
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BigJDizzleMaNizzles@reddit
I've seen an American at a panto. It was funnier than the panto itself.
They had no idea what was going on. They didn't know how we all knew when to join in and what to say.
Someone posted a link to a panto on YouTube. Watch it. You won't know what's going on.
If you're in the UK ever before Christmas make going to the panto on your to-do list.
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BlackCatWitch29@reddit
A pantomime is usually a theatre production of a well-known children's story, like Aladdin, where some of the actors playing important characters might not be the same sex as their characters.
Extra characters get added on as well, like Aladdin's mum, who might be called Widow Twankey (or some other nonsense name) and played by a guy dressed in drag (kind of). These are Pantomime Dames. I say kind of because it's not like Ru Paul's Drag Race and the gags/puns can get so funny that costume malfunctions occur.(I once saw a panto, can't remember which one, and the Widow's upper assets came loose and bounced into the audience causing such a fit of giggles from everyone that said Widow forgot their lines.)
Sometimes sweets will be thrown into the audience, or a small number of the audience can win a prize (nothing huge but it makes for a memory). Occasionally, audience members might be called to volunteer to assist with a skit on stage.
The audience is almost like an extra in the play because some songs can be sung with them, and the lyrics are easy for the kids. There's also skits where the Dame "can't see" the villain or another character and the audience shouts "he's behind you!"
It's aimed at kids but adults can (and should) enjoy the experience too.
They are hard to describe but I would recommend coming over and going to a pantomime at least once in your life.
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Actual-Sky-4272@reddit
It’s a cross dressing MAGA nightmare. Much like Shakespeare.
Educational_Walk_239@reddit
They’re just comic twists on normal fairy tales (my local theatre is doing Peter Pan). Usually involves some audience participation. They’re quite loud and colourful. A bit of an attack on the senses, but all in good humour.
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dinkidoo7693@reddit
Its usually a family play, a comedic take on a traditional fairytale (like cinderella, jack and the beanstalk, ect) often with a Zlist celebrity starring as a main character, usually has silly songs and dancing often jokes relating to whatever that Zlist celebrity is known for. They are very silly and usually a good laugh. The bigger theatres usually get the better known celebrities.
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ramapyjamadingdong@reddit
It is a family friendly theatre performance of a well known fairy tale e.g. Jack and the bean stalk or cinderella
There is singing and dancing with tongue in cheek gags and double entendre
There are common gags, which require the audience to shout he's behind you! Followed by call and response of "Oh no he's not" and "oh yes he is".
The leading male character is played by a woman.
There is a dame, which is a man in drag.
Often there is an animal, played by two people being the front and back.
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Chickenshit_outfit@reddit
Used to go Panto all the time as a kid around christmas. Still have a photo of me and Stu Francis Preston Guild Hall early 80s. Gave me a crush a grape badge too but dont know where that is sadly. Brilliant family entertainment
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thesaharadesert@reddit
They’re often based on fairy tales (Cinderella, Jack and the Beanstalk, Snow White, Dick Whittington, to name a few). The female love interest is played by a woman. The male counterpart (principal boy) is played by a woman. There’s a man in drag (pantomime dame), and a villain (I have vivid memories of being scared to bits of Baron Hardup when I was younger).
There’s audience participation (she/he’s behind you!, booing and hissing at the villain), double entendres, and often a section where some little scrotes will get hauled up on on stage for a game and get prizes.
I’m sure I’ve missed some other classic traditions.
freshmaggots@reddit (OP)
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SnooDonuts6494@reddit
It's quite hard to describe; it'd be easier if you simply watched one.
It's basically a fairy-story, such as Cinderella or Jack and the Beanstalk. It's a play, in extravagant costumes. It involves a lot of comedy, and a lot of audience participation - e.g. the villain walks behind the actor, and everyone (in the audience) shouts "HE'S BEHIND YOU"... the actor looks around just as the villain ducks out of view. Repeat that ten times.
They often burst into song, and start dancing.
The scenery is often crudely painted cardboard, then gets switched around often.
It often has sexy young women acting as young men, and men acting as older grumpy ugly women. There are often crude but subtle jokes, that the children won't understand but will make the adults laugh.
Really, though, your best bet is to watch some. https://youtu.be/gXofn7OSLWU?t=600
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AceHarleyQ@reddit
Source: YouTube https://share.google/3dLhVAuSMJlyAoKTE
abyssal-isopod86@reddit
If you don't like drag, don't go.
PossibleGlad7290@reddit
Oh Jesus, here we go.
Fun_Cheesecake_7684@reddit
They're weird as fuck, aimed at families with kids, and best enjoyed drunk.
EconomicsPotential84@reddit
A pantomime is a play, often a famous fairy tale, played in an over the top, camp, silly, jokey, 4th wall breaking, self aware way.
Educational-Bus4634@reddit
It's a traditional Christmas vignette.
Mikon_Youji@reddit
It's a comedic play with audience participation.
jojobonbon@reddit
So think of the White House with all the laughable things that go on there with Donald dressed as a Dame and you pretty much have a panto! Except all year round!
Princes_Slayer@reddit
Like when Rudy Guiliani dressed up in full drag
artrald-7083@reddit
OK. First you have to understand that it is shit, and if it is not shit, it is not a panto. It is very much 'so bad it's good' territory: good ones are
A panto is a musical on the general theme of a folk tale, in the way that a Disney film is on the general theme of a folk tale. It is put on in the Christmas season or sometimes in January, and in its purest form it is put on by the local amateur dramatics company and it's so bad it"s good.
There are songs and dancing, approximately acting, and a script composed very nearly entirely of very, very stale memes and dad jokes. It must be family friendly, but with references you hope the children do not get.
There should be attempts at comedy. These come in such forms as: It's Behind You (Oh No It Isn't), very serious people being shamelessly undignified, Terrible Jokes and gender-bending.
A true pantomime is not a true pantomime without gender-bending. First and most important you have the dame, which is its own thing, a lot like a drag queen, but it's much more comedy and less glam, and can be quite sexist - then there may well also be the Boy, the pantomime's male lead, who is usually played by a woman but not for laughs (or rather, the role gets jokes but is entirely supposed in character to be a man throughout).
MattheqAC@reddit
There are probably a couple on YouTube you could watch
Violet351@reddit
It’s a funny play but a very specific sort. It’s usually a fairy tale. Traditionally the leading male character was played by a woman but that seems to have stopped now. The older female character or the ugly sisters are usually played by a man. There’s singing, audience participation with some specific phrases used like he’s behind you or booing the villan and cheering the heros. There’s normally a few risqué jokes that go over the kiddies heads. There may even be a sing a long for one song. It’s aimed at families but the old people’s group in my home village takes all the old people in a bus and they all still love it.
OrangeBeast01@reddit
Did you watch Game of thrones, when they did a stage play of the purple wedding? It's similar to that, but aimed at kids (with plenty in there for adults to understand)
Cheese-n-Opinion@reddit
It's a traditional type of stage play. It's a comical adaptation of a well known fairy-tale or similar children's story, that includes a lot of well-established stock elements.
For example there is basically always a 'pantomime dame', a woman played by a man in flamboyant drag. There's always a lot of audience participation which usually follows some set patterns - British audiences know these well enough that they don't need much prompting.
Might be best to just watch one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdA_6BtsXko
That's a pretty swanky one written by a well known TV sitcom writer (wrote Blackadder amongst other things) and filmed for TV broadcast, with a lot of well-known faces from British television. Other pantomimes might be a bit lower-rent with a few z-list celebrities, or else put on by local amdram groups.
Worried_Suit4820@reddit
You might find bits of pantomime on YouTube. Or not...
IanM50@reddit
Go to YouTube and search for pantomime,
But for a start try watching : https://youtu.be/tTjxGSxkmgQ?si=dHzqnOSTPxYK-Ahx
MacSamildanach@reddit
I'm British, and I have never been to a panto. I'm fairly certain I never will. Just doesn't appeal to me.
However, people love them. BBC did a news item which may help.
What's behind the UK's Christmas love affair with pantomime – BBC News
And YouTube has a fair number of videos with whole panto performances.
ITV Panto-Cinderella (2000)
The cast tends to be made up of current celebrities, and certain cities snag the A-listers, whereas the provincial venues often have to make do with Z-listers.
It's generally a bit of slapstick for the kids loosely based on a well-known story, littered with innuendo for the adults. Gender role reversal is a key element - there is always a 'pantomime dame' (played by a male actor), and the lead male character - for example, in Dick Whittington - is played by a female actor.
North_Artichoke_6721@reddit
It’s a fun and silly play, often a version of a common folktale that everyone already is familiar with.
There is usually a dame, a large-busted woman, who is often played by a male actor for comedic effect.
There is usually an element of slapstick humor. The audience participates at certain points.
sweetprince686@reddit
Don't forget that the dame is typically played by a man, and the leading man/ prince is mostly played by a woman.
pezholio@reddit
With lots of thigh slapping!
Drewski811@reddit
Thoroughly silly, high camp, and pure farce.
Matezza@reddit
Oh no it isn't
ArborealFriend@reddit
Oh yes it is!
-auntiesloth-@reddit
It's one of those things you have to experience for yourself. Even then, you won't really understand.
FrauAmarylis@reddit
It’s a Spoof of a Fairy Tale or other story, with lots of humor, sexual innuendo, a Dame (a man in drag), and some call & response with the audience.
Americans either love it or hate it. We love it. We saw the Robinhood one at The Palladium in London last year and this year we are hoping to see a more local one.
BlackJackKetchum@reddit
Erm, ritualised re-telling of fairy tales etc that operate at at least two levels - participatory stuff for kids and all sorts of meta jokes for adults.
Not really my thing, but they introduce kids to live performances and give a great pay day to regional theatres and jobbing actors.
Sate_Hen@reddit
https://youtu.be/ubhBI8E_IDU?si=Mr_91kcLdOZbrV2N