What’s the smartest NON thinking model under 40B or so?

Posted by Borkato@reddit | LocalLLaMA | View on Reddit | 14 comments

Seed 39B is excellent for thinking, but what about non-thinking?

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Long_comment_san@reddit

I'd vote for Magistral and Mistral series in general. They seem to be trained outstandingly well. I wish they made a 40-50b MOE model so I can just stop talking to people permanently.

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Brave-Hold-9389@reddit

Choose one from https://huggingface.co/spaces/flowers-team/StickToYourRoleLeaderboard Or this https://huggingface.co/spaces/DontPlanToEnd/UGI-Leaderboard Or one that appears in both

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Borkato@reddit (OP)

Wow, I haven’t seen that first one before, thank you!

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BigDry3037@reddit

I’m assuming your emojis mean you disagree, but in all my evals granite 4 has been a real champion, what has your experience been?

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TechNerd10191@reddit

I have no complains for the Gemm3 series.

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Demortus@reddit

I like them, but they do tend to halucinate fairly frequently, in my experience.

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sine120@reddit

Qwen3-30B-A3B-Instruct-2507 is my favorite.

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Just curious, if you like Seed 36B, you can set its thinking budget to 0 to disable thinking. Is your hypothesis that explicit non-thinking models may do better than this? Or, what are you looking for?

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Borkato@reddit (OP)

Can I do this in ooba and sillytavern? If so how wtf

What’s the smartest NON thinking model under 40B or so?

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