RU POV: Prime Minister of Slovakia Robert Fico: "The strategy was that this war would provide an opportunity to bring the Russian Federation to its knees. But anyone who knows the Russians understands that when they are on their knees, it’s only because they’re tying their shoelaces"
Posted by AtosPortosAramis3@reddit | EndlessWar | View on Reddit | 47 comments
ErilazHateka@reddit
lol
I remember the 90s when Europeans were sending food packages to Russia and Russia was begging for loans.
OGmoron@reddit
And why was that? Could it be because western advisors insisted on economic reforms that sold off all the Soviet industries and infrastructure to a handful of oligarchs who squeezed ever drop of profit out of the country?
ErilazHateka@reddit
Then why are the Russians not changing this? They seem to be happy with it.
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
They actually pulled the same scam like they did in US after the revolution which led to the Whiskey Rebellion. Same M.O.
OGmoron@reddit
Same in Iraq after the US invaded in 2003
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
And how did that work out? Which side is wealthy and which side is no longer sovereign?
ErilazHateka@reddit
Russians aren´t wealthy except for a few of them. Have you ever been to Russia? I went there for the last time 4 years ago and outside the cities, it´s a third world country.
Compared to Russia, European countries are doing pretty well.
Dariuslynx@reddit
And who's fault is that? Didn't US sent thousands of finance advisors to Russia after Soviet Union fall? Yeah that worked out good but not for Russians
ErilazHateka@reddit
Russia has been making an incredible amount of money off their natural resources but somehow, that doesn´t end up with the people.
Are you blaming "US financial advisers" on that?
OGmoron@reddit
Are you not even reading your own comments??
How do you think those natural resources got into private hands in the first place? Of course that money doesn't end up going to the needs of the people when you allow a handful of well-connected oligarchs to essentially buy up the resource and industry wealth built over the course of 60 years to provide for the needs of a huge country.
ErilazHateka@reddit
Yes, that´s kinda my point. Russia fucked up their best opportunity and now the Russians support the current political structure so they have nobody to blame but themselves.
Dariuslynx@reddit
Ahh, another talking head just to talk, without knowledge what he's talking
ErilazHateka@reddit
Compelling argument. If all you can do is making claims without substantiating them, you´re a waste of time.
Dariuslynx@reddit
Listen young boy, if you are ignorant and can't look up things for yourself and accept them only when given then it's your problem not mine, you know there is Internet and even AI who will give answers to all your questions,
You can't even think for yourself, you can't even ask yourself questions, for example why would USA help Russia to get back on it's feet's after Soviet Union fall? The enemy of US, who spent billions on propaganda portraying Russians as somewhat not human. Yeah the US who all what they do is exploiting poor countries and start wars with. Will you support Venezuela in war with US?
ErilazHateka@reddit
It´s always funny to see when people like you get angry after being called out for spreading bullshit narratives.
I can do that as well:
Why would USA help Germany to get back on it's feet's after Nazi Germany fall? The enemy of US, who spent billions on propaganda portraying Germans as somewhat not human.
The West helped Russia, because they preferred to have a stable and friendly Russia over an unstable and unfriendly Russia and they thought that Russians had enough of being subjugated to dictators.
Unfortunately, Russian delusion of grandeur re-emerged, made them think that they are superior to all, that they need to dominate their neighbours once more and that the world somehow owes them a place at the top.
Dariuslynx@reddit
Like I've said before, you have all tools to look up information for yourself.
In the chaotic 1990s, a flood of American "advisors" descended on Moscow, working with the Russian government, central bank, and financial markets.
Suspicions of Espionage: Many of these advisors were seen as having dual loyalties, gathering intelligence and shaping Russian policy to favor US interests. The most famous example is the Harvard Institute for International Development (HIID) scandal, where American advisors were accused of using their insider position to profit from the very economic reforms they
were recommending.
"Mission Creep": What started as economic advice expanded into influencing Russia's political development, legal system, and even its military and security services. This was seen by Russian nationalists as an attempt to remake Russia as a vassal state
ErilazHateka@reddit
This is all made up. Never happened.
My evidence: look it up yourself. It´s all online.
See how this works? I can just claim everything I want. No need to substantiate everything. I just tell you that you have to find the evidence for my claims yourself.
Wow, that´s easy.
Dariuslynx@reddit
Well I gave you evidence, you can accept it or be ignorant noob
ErilazHateka@reddit
And I told you everything you need to know to see that you are wrong.
I said it last so I win. That´s how this game works, right?
Dariuslynx@reddit
I gave you facts which looks like you refuse to accept. It's always like that, they say you don't have any proves or facts, we gave them proves and facts, then they turn on full liberal show how stupid they are
ErilazHateka@reddit
I gave you facts which looks like you refuse to accept.
Always the same with you. You´re just wrong but you refuse to look for the evidence that you are wrong. Don´t expect me to provide it, you have all the tools available to do it yourself.
See how this works?
Dariuslynx@reddit
Well, you didn't provide any facts, so shut your liberal mouth and stay silent clown
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
People in 12 time zones living in remote locations are not living the same as people in metropolises is not the hot take you think it is Karen.
ErilazHateka@reddit
So, have you ever been to Russia in the countryside?
I live in the countryside and I have indoor plumbing, paved roads, public transport and I don´t have to wash my clothing in a river.
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
I seen the country side in Appalachia and they don't have indoor plumbing, paved roads or public transport. Does that change how modern NYC and LA are?
ErilazHateka@reddit
W...whatabout the USA?
I'm not a US citizen so why bring that up?
So, you don't know shit about Russia. As expected.
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
You seem to struggle with how analogies work.
You brought up how people live in the country side of the country with the world's most powerful military. I replied that people who in the country of the second most powerful military have the same country side conditions. How is such a simple analogy too complex for you?
ErilazHateka@reddit
Lol
Most powerful military in the world cannot conquer its smaller neighbor in over 3 years.
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
Well they never said they plan to conquer anything so this tracks with their actions.
There is over fifty pro nazi countries sending weapons, supplies and money to the terrorists Russia is eliminating. They tried to peep squeek about sending their pride parades there and Russia said it would send them back to the stone age. So far none of them have the balls to send a single uniformed company to dare become mulch in front of brave Russian peacekeepers liberating civilians.
That smaller neighbor would overrun all of EU and bitch slap all of NATO if US stayed neutral.
ErilazHateka@reddit
Is this a satire account?
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
Why are over 50 pro nazi countries who sent hundreds of billions of dollars and same amount of weapons worth terrified of Russia?
ErilazHateka@reddit
Tankie?
Satire?
Bot?
Hard to decide....
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
What are you mumbling on?
Why are over 50 nazi countries afraid of sending their troops to attack Russia while they sent hundreds of billions in cash and over 300 billion in weapons? What are they scared of besides the world's most dominant military that over shadows the other top 9 by a wide margin?
ErilazHateka@reddit
50 nazi countries? Are you living in an alternative timeline where Hitler won WW2?
I should add "batshit delusional" to the list.
Or do you think that anyone who opposes Russia is a Nazi?
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
What are you confused about. The question is simply. Why are over 50 nazi countries that are sending weapons and mercenaries to the ukronazis afraid to commit their own uniformed troops if they thought they could defeat Russian Peacekeeping Mission liberating civilians?
ErilazHateka@reddit
Are the US one of those nazi countries?
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
Why wont you answer my question?
ErilazHateka@reddit
Bevause I am not taking your statements seriously.
Since all your arguments boil down to "they deserve it because they are Nazis snd everyone who supports them ard Nazis and everyone who opposes Russia is a Nazi", this is a nonsensical conversation.
I'm just curious why you voluntarily continue to live in a Nazi country. Why not move to Russia?
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
Strawman fallacy. You refuse to answer a basic question and just make shit up. Like all nazi cheerleaders you are too cowardly to answer a basic question. Why do you all of you nazis fear Russia so badly while claiming it is weaker than your cowardice?
ErilazHateka@reddit
You just proved my point. You call me Nazi because I oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
That's literally the only reason you do it.
That's hilarious.
Why don't you move to Russia instead of continuing to live in a nazi country?
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
You have no point. You wont answer a basic question. Why wont all the nazi countries that want Russia dead and sent hundreds of billions of weapons and dollars are too chicken shit to send uniformed troops?
Your nazi nature betrays your cowardice since you are too chicken to answer a basic question.
ErilazHateka@reddit
Name those Nazi countries.
Why do you continue support a Nazi country with the taxes you pay? That makes you a Nazi.
AtosPortosAramis3@reddit (OP)
Why wont you answer my answer cowardly nazi advocates? Why wont your nazi brethren send their nazi troops to invade Russia like they did the last time they got fucked up the ass?
ErilazHateka@reddit
I cannot comment on your claim of 50 nazi countries if you refuse to name those nazi countries.
So, can you name those 50 nazi countries or not?
If you live in one of those countries, that makes you a nazi yourself. You do realise that?
OGmoron@reddit
Sure you do
Dariuslynx@reddit
I'm not even speaking about other countries, where you can agree isn't very nice
ErilazHateka@reddit
Did you forget to switch accounts?