New 32" Fast IPS UHD (UHD/FHD dual mode) MiniLED contender with 2304-zone FALD backlight: AOC AG327UXM
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AOC revealed a new monitor for those looking for a high end IPS solution for both work and play. I am after one of these. Looks like another China-only model possibly. I don't get why these aren't getting worldwide releases.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Agon-Pro-AG327UXM-AOC-reveals-new-2304-zone-Mini-LED-gaming-monitor-before-global-release.1142733.0.html
x1ife@reddit
Any indication of whether it is DC or PWM backlight local dimming?
sbpnt@reddit (OP)
MiniLEDs are always utilizing PWM, but some can switch to DC dimming when local dimming is turned off.
SyntacticSyntax@reddit
Finally. They're adding more backlights. Can help reduce the issue of miniled's blooming and haloing. Also helps with the low contrast of IPS LCDs. Can't wait for it to trickle down to 27" 1440p IPS miniled.
I enjoy using my HKC G27M2Pro which is basically the Koorui S2721PM internationally. Was using Xiaomi miniLED before but the red tint gave me hard time using it and returned it immediately. I just can't use VA because of flickering.
AsparagusDirect9@reddit
Wait I’m a newb. I thought OLED was better than IPS?
SyntacticSyntax@reddit
OLED is still better but I wouldn't use one because I mostly use my monitors for work. Text clarity and possibility of burn-in are the downsides for my use case.
reality_hijacker@reddit
4k OLEDS don't have any clarity issues.
AsparagusDirect9@reddit
why wouldn't text be claritY?
joe0185@reddit
OLED panels are typically either WOLED or QD-OLED panels. The subpixel arrangement causes fringing around fine details like text.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1bimglp/qdoledwoled_text_clarity_comparison_picture_here/
AsparagusDirect9@reddit
Why down vote?
AsparagusDirect9@reddit
Omg. I just bought a new laptop that’s OLED 120hz. Did I screw up? I even paid more for it specifically
cemsengul@reddit
I am interested in mini led since they are increasing zones but I would find it very difficult to switch since my TV and desktop monitor are both OLED right now.
Cheap-Plane2796@reddit
High end ips.
Thats like saying delicious turd.
Its still ips, it still blows
Plus-Candidate-2940@reddit
IPS is literally better at everything except native contrast rate
TwoCylToilet@reddit
I'm an IPS enjoyer, but it's also inferior in terms of colour volume and response time.
Plus-Candidate-2940@reddit
Compared to oled I guess, but I’m more talking about lcds
TwoCylToilet@reddit
I mained IPSs before my centre display was replaced with an OLED, TNs are still objectively faster (with shite colour and viewing angles) and VAs have 3-9x the native contrast ratio. I'd take a VA without local dimming in my living room over an IPS with.
All display tech have compromises, even OLEDs. I wish dual LMCLs stayed around and became feasible for consumers.
Plus-Candidate-2940@reddit
I had a 400hz tn it was good but my god as soon as you turn your head it looks like a $150 laptop screen
TwoCylToilet@reddit
Yeah TNs are unusable except straight on and never rotated 90°
Cheap-Plane2796@reddit
Ips literally cant display any panning or scrolling image.
It switches about 50 times too slow to do that, and 1000x slower than oled.
Ips relies 100 percent on colors of most pixels being the same or almost the same between two frames to display images.
Its a laughable technology and always has been
hys90@reddit
least reddit take
sbpnt@reddit (OP)
you are entitled to your opinion I guess?
OkMud4924@reddit
I found that AOC have similar 27 model: AOC AG275UXM2 but no words about golobal release.
Klaritee@reddit
I was hyped for IPS with dimming zones, with enough zones blooming is less of an issue and brightness is back on the menu without burn in risk.... but after realizing input lag DOUBLES when local dimming is active I now think of it as an unacceptable bandaid.
sbpnt@reddit (OP)
doubled input lag is still like what.. 7-8 ms?
Klaritee@reddit
local dimming off and then on results shortly after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW-HfmrFGZk
Nicholas-Steel@reddit
Not sure why they'd aim for 160Hz and 320Hz, neither are divisible by 30 so a lot of video content will look bad without VRR support.
capybooya@reddit
160hz is enough, not worried about any perceivable stuttering really, but I wonder why they don't extend the 320hz support to 4K as well. Probably some timer/clock part that would add another $10 to the cost?
TwoCylToilet@reddit
You do lose HDR at UHD 320Hz which defeats the entire purpose of the panel.
DP UHBR20 (77.37Gbps) gives you a maximum of 267Hz at 10-bit UHD.
HDMI 42Gbps only gets you 154Hz at 10-bit UHD.
240Hz is theoretically possible, or maybe 320Hz HDR with DSC on DP. I'd more likely believe that the ASIC used for the scaler that allows 320Hz at 1080p is probably the limiting factor rather than AOC trying to cheap out on some timer/clock.
rynoweiss@reddit
Monitors don't only support their native refresh. I would be shocked if there wasn't a 120Hz mode. My 144Hz and 165Hz monitors support 120Hz.
greggm2000@reddit
I’m not sure who is making the underlying panel, but there’s quite a few of these 32” 4K 160hz IPS screens out there. I own one, but it’s an Acer, and while it doesn’t have a miniLED backlight, it’s still been a pretty good screen in the months that I’ve owned it.
Vb_33@reddit
LG display is making her 160hz panel.
EndlessZone123@reddit
At that high of a refresh rate I really doubt you could tell.
Elon61@reddit
Are there monitors using this panel that have hardware gsync?
Plus-Candidate-2940@reddit
Hopefully it’s released in every market.
OkMud4924@reddit
I will be interested to see 27" version of this model. Looking good on paper.
redsunstar@reddit
It already exists, sort of. There are plenty of UHD 27" IPS with Mini-Led backlights, 160 Hz refresh, higher refresh FHD mode on the market in the western market.
The main difference, which is half the dimming zones, is less important than it appears. A doubling of dimming zones is just dimming zones that are 0.7 times their previous size, it's not all that perceptible, a good algorithm is much more crucial.
OkMud4924@reddit
I got You very good point. But only if we take that (example) MSI mini led avaliable on the market will have better algorithm than AOC with more dimming zones. But we don't know that yes?
Still More zones allow dark areas to stay truly dark while bright areas (like explosions, lights, or the sun) stay bright. This creates a more realistic, high-contrast image that makes games look more immersive and can really a little bit compete with an OLED or be good cheaper alternative. More zones mean smaller, more controlled lighting areas — so halos are minimized or barely visible. HDR relies on precise brightness control. More dimming zones = higher dynamic range = better highlights, deeper shadows, and more detail in both. In cinematic or story-driven games, more zones enhance atmosphere — night scenes, fire, neon lights, etc. look much more lifelike and vibrant.
So if algorithms are right, then mini led with ex 2300 dimming zones is realy stuff that made You want to wait for it.
redsunstar@reddit
We have to consider how big are the lighting zones vs how big are the highlights. With a 1152 zones screens, we have roughly 80x90 pixels lighting zones. Double the amount of zones, and we stiff have zones that are too big to display small highlights. It is in theory better, but it's imho a small quantitative change than a qualitative one.
OkMud4924@reddit
They are couple of asian reviews of Innocn GA27V1M with 2300 dimming zones and it looks very promising and great picture quality. I hope for more devices like that. And what most important to be coming to EU market also. There plenty great monitors in China/Japan that never going outside Asian market and that is shame for sure.
tenchigaeshi@reddit
Not with 2000+ zones there isn't hardly
redsunstar@reddit
Interesting, I think that may be the first time we see that panel on the market?
Previously, 32" UHD IPS mini-led have been limited to 144 Hz and 1152 zones. 2304 zones and 160 Hz is new.
Considering that a number of brands have decided to sell 27" IPS minileds 160 Hz and 32" IPS minileds in western markets, I have some hope we'll see this panel too.
advester@reddit
FHD on a 32", oh dear.
Nicholas-Steel@reddit
First paragraph
lumieres1488@reddit
FHD is a second, high refresh mode on this monitor, and if used in combination with MSAA x4-8, it's really not as bad as it sounds in games like Valorant/CS2, which will greatly benefit from increased refresh rate - plus, some people are still playing without stretching the image and this is not an issue for them, they'll just have black bars.
brandon_gb@reddit
It's not as bad as I thought it would be. Especially if you use DLAA or MSAA x8. I only turn it on for games like Valorant or Overwatch.