States with only one representative, how does that work out?
Posted by johnqadamsin28@reddit | AskAnAmerican | View on Reddit | 82 comments
Like for my state I can at least drive to their office and know they have some passing shared memories of our area
GoCardinal07@reddit
Fellow Californian, these states are small. Think of them like our counties or even our cities. Their representatives are as accessible as our county supervisors and city councilmembers.
bunkumsmorsel@reddit
They’re not though aside from Delaware and Vermont. They’re just sparsely populated.
GoCardinal07@reddit
San Bernardino County is geographically larger than 9 states.
DeniseReades@reddit
I'm pretty sure, considering the land area, the reps from Vermont and Delaware have plenty of shared memories with their constituents. That leaves what? The Dakotas, Alaska and Wyoming?
If you look at a population map, most of the state is uninhabited. It's not like California, Texas, Florida etc where there are multiple massive population centers who all have some deep seated issue with the other population centers. It's like 2 cities, a few towns and then a bunch of land and animals. I doubt the beef between Bismarck and Fargo has the same level of animosity as Houston vs Dallas. Anchorage vs Juneau has led to considerably less lives lost than Philadelphia vs Pittsburgh.
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Man that must be so weird to be from a state without that divide. Like Vermont and Delaware they're just all together like brothers
Flamecyborg@reddit
Can't speak for Vermont... but Delaware absolutely has a divide. The southern 2/3 of the state is very, very different (culturally and politically) than the northern third.
It honestly feels like a microcosm of the Civil War without the actual war, but with a good chunk of the sentiment.
bunkumsmorsel@reddit
“South of the Canal” is definitely its own whole thing.
DeniseReades@reddit
It really is. I moved a lot as a kid and now travel a lot for work and a) states without any cities that have a major sports team and b) states without an oversized beef between large cities are just built different.
I always have a lot of fun with other people who want to joke about the rivalry my city and state have with our rival city and other states and that's just not as much a thing in some places. It also is not a thing that has led to fights and arrests in parking lots so it's a good thing as well.
ice_princess_16@reddit
In Alaska it’s basically Anchorage vs the rest of the state. The needs of people in the Anchorage area are really different from people living in small rural communities (see recent flooding for an example - some of those small communities don’t have running water in their homes). Even people in Juneau and Fairbanks tend to not have much affection for Anchorage other than as a place to shop and catch a plane out of the state.
The current senators for Alaska are from Ketchikan, AK and Ohio. The rep is from Anchorage. Alaska is a young state. Before these three. Before the current rep a woman from Bethel, AK, was rep. Prior to these folks most federal legislators were born before statehood outside of Alaska.
cookoutenthusiast@reddit
It works the same way every state does. I don’t understand your question.
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
But like I wouldn't want a rep from the northern half of my state
cookoutenthusiast@reddit
So what is your question?
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Like do they feel like it's a senator?
thatsad_guy@reddit
How close do you feel to your representative?
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Not much I know the college he went too and we like the same restaurants here in LA but like in Wyoming they probably don't know my restaurant
annang@reddit
The overwhelming majority of Americans have never met their federal congressional representatives and have no idea what college they went to or what restaurants they like.
bunkumsmorsel@reddit
I’d have to look mine up. Can never remember.
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Oh hmm even at the fundraising dinners? Like when they need money they hook you up at the restaurant
cdb03b@reddit
You are asking questions that most Americans cannot answer. We do not know any representatives, House or Senate that well. We do not even know our State Government that well. We might know that mayor.
annang@reddit
The overwhelming majority of Americans have never attended a political fundraiser.
cookoutenthusiast@reddit
I still have no idea what you’re asking.
waluigieWAAH@reddit
A senator represents the entire state. Your representative is supposed to represent your area. My representative represents the little area of Texas I live in. What dude is asking is if you're state only has 1 member in the house, do you feel the same way about them as you do a senator. If you're in northwestern Wyoming, you don't have the same needs as those in Cheyenne. But they don't have a representative for Northwestern Wyoming in the house, they have to share with the people in Cheyenne. They don't know the towns in your area, they can't focus on a specific zone.
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Like do they feel a senator way about him?
annang@reddit
There’s no such thing as “a senator way” to feel about a politician. No one knows what you mean by that.
ATLien_3000@reddit
Then vote for someone from the southern half of your state.
waluigieWAAH@reddit
He's not asking about himself, he's asking about people in state's with one rep. There is no house rep for people in northwestern Wyoming, and same for Cheyenne. They have to share 1 house rep. They are asking how Wyomingites think about that. Do Senators and the Rep share the same space in their mind, as opposed to other areas where your rep represents your area, not people from some far off place with different needs
ATLien_3000@reddit
Here's the crazy thing.
They can do the same thing.
If you're from Wyoming and you think it's really important the US Rep be from southern Wyoming, you vote for someone from southern Wyoming.
Ok-Cardiologist-1969@reddit
You’re from California you would never have to worry about that
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Yeah we are pretty big
Ok-Cardiologist-1969@reddit
Yeah to go from 50+ to just 1 they would definitely have to be from the north part of the state because everything other than a small chunk up north would have to fall into the ocean
taranathesmurf@reddit
I think OP wants to know if you feel that your state is disadvantaged because the state only has one vote versus let's say California with 50 plus votes
TheBimpo@reddit
What do you mean, “how does that work out”? You do understand that representation is based on population, right?
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Yeah but like how do they look at it? Like I know my rep is a rep but they probably feel like a senator way about them?
Anustart15@reddit
Your representative has more constituents than their senator, so that is probably a meaningless comparison to them.
bunkumsmorsel@reddit
Seriously. I’m not thinking Nancy Pelosi would rather be whoever the guy from Alaska is.
TheBimpo@reddit
None of your replies make any sense. How does my representative look at what?
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
No like you look at me with a senator vibe
GeneralPatton94@reddit
Are you saying in those states it probably feels more prestigious to be the single Rep vs the 2 Senators since in most states it’s the opposite with the Congressional delegation outnumbering the 2 Senators which makes the Senators more prestigious?
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Yeah like a rep has less prestige than the mayor of LA but if one person did all of California then they'd be like Royal
bunkumsmorsel@reddit
But they still have to run for reelection every two years, so no.
thatsad_guy@reddit
What
bunkumsmorsel@reddit
No difference than the senators, really. I mean, I don’t live in one of those states. But it’s not really fundamentally any different than having a senator represent the whole thing. I have no idea where my senators’ offices are.
degobrah@reddit
Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, and Delaware have only 1 representive in the House. Alaska in particular is massive. I think OP is asking if it feels unfair? Do the people who vote for the rep get more of a vibe that they are voting for a senator as opposed to a rep? For example in Alaska, Juneau and Nome have the same rep even though they on opposite sides of the state. Do people in Juneau and Nome feel their rep actually represents them considering the long distance and presumably different concerns?
Is that what you meant OP? Because nothing has been clear in any response in this post
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Yes!! Like when I talk to my rep I feel above them because they're just a rep. When I meet a senator though I'm nice to them because they're far more important than I am
AliMcGraw@reddit
Wyoming has like 300,000 people, so I assume the state rep knows, like, everyone. I'm in Illinois, where each Congressional rep represents 750,000 people. The last place I lived in the state, I knew my rep pretty well because I worked with her on multiple issues. The current place I live, I went to freakin' high school with my rep.
My assumption is that in tiny states, literally everybody knows their rep. Because I'm in a big, underrepresented state and even my reps know half of everybody!
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
I don't know if Illinois is a big state. Compared to my state California and Texas you guys are kinda small
AliMcGraw@reddit
and like in terms of regionality, rural representatives will always represent larger, more regionally diverse areas. My current rep represents a handful of Chicago suburbs (since around 66% of Illinoisians live in Chicago and its suburbs, that that grows every year). When I lived downstate, my rep represented a larger, more geographically diverse part of the state, in a district that gerrymandered its way through Rockford, the Quad Cities, Moline, and Peoria, covering a bunch of cornfields in between. It might not be the MOST geographically diverse district in the state, but it's definitely in the top 3 for geographical, agricultural, and settlement-pattern diversity. The 12th is probably the most "unlike the rest of Illinois" district in the state, as it has the Shawnee Forest and some non-glaciated areas (so weird!!!!), but it's also either all state/national park, or it's all super-rural corn farms. It's not actually all that diverse, although it's among the prettiest hiking in the state. There are a couple other very large, rural districts, but they tend to feature all the same types of farm and not a lot of diversity in landforms (or people). The rest of our districts are two districts gerrymandered to capture downstate blue-collar and college cities (East St. Louis, Chambana, B/N, Peoria, Moline) while letting rural Republicas have a couple of seats by having all the cornfields, or 13 of our 17 districts are pretty densely-packed into Chicago and the collar counties. I current live in one of the smallest districts in the state; I could drive across it in half an hour in traffic.
But yeah, I think 17 is probably the most geologically and geographically diverse district, with a lot of really interesting rust belt cities with different histories and different boom and bust moments. I'm just in the suburbs, my congressional district is made up almost entirely of schools in my kids' high school sports league; the district north of us is made up of the other half. That's just 12 high schools. It's dense here! And it's like all glacial morraines, it's pretty dull geographically. You go out to Rockford, you get the Rock River exposing some massively ancient rock formations, that's much cooler.
AliMcGraw@reddit
Your representatives represent about the same number of people as Illinois's do -- Cali is around 760,000 per rep. Texas is also right around 760k/rep.
Kilane@reddit
My state doesn’t align with my political views anyway so I try not to think about it. My mayor marches because I’m in a city, but the governor, house representative, and senator are just assholes who don’t represent my views.
It is what it is, nothing to be done about it. Nobody gets the country they desire, you can only hope for the best.
TiFist@reddit
Look, I'd just be happy if they weren't my mortal enemy, in a gerrymandered district designed to very specifically disenfranchise me.
jephph_@reddit
A state with one House rep means the resident is way over represented in Congress compared to more populated states
So i don’t know but it surely works out well when their vote in federal elections is twice as powerful as mine.
merp_mcderp9459@reddit
Y’all got voting representatives?
capsrock02@reddit
What do you mean how does it work?
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
Like do you feel like they're apart of your region
Irritable_Curmudgeon@reddit
My state has more than one and i don't feel like they're a part of my region or properly representing our people.
Also one of our House members lives in a totally different state for years and has been getting away with it
nomuggle@reddit
One of mine also lives in another state!
ATLien_3000@reddit
The Hill rags love stories like those.
Especially if the place they're living isn't DC or its VA or MD suburbs.
Irritable_Curmudgeon@reddit
Haha VA it is!
ATLien_3000@reddit
If it's the DC suburbs that's a little different; to be honest, Congress would be much more functional if more members moved their families to DC and "lived" there.
It's a lot harder for you to hate everyone and everything associated with the other party when your spouses play bridge together, your kids go to the same school, you see each other at the ballfield on the weekend, you have hall parties, etc.
Now it's land at 3 on fly in day, fly out at 3 after last votes, never slow down, and never interact with the other party.
NoFilterNoLimits@reddit
My state has several but “my” rep still represents my geographic area of the state. I’m not sure how I see any difference if the district happens to be the entire state or just part of it
Anustart15@reddit
Why wouldn't they?
capsrock02@reddit
Wouldn’t know. I don’t live in one of those states. But house reps are by population. Nobody lives in Wyoming. That’s why they have 1 seat.
semisubterranean@reddit
I used to live in North Dakota. They have two senators and a congresswoman for a population of less than 800,000 people. Given how interconnected friendships and families are there, they likely have more shared culture, experiences and connections with their congressional delegation than you do.
They see them at the state fair, the state football championship, and maybe even go to the same church as their representative's aunt. Even though there's a strong east-west cultural divide in the state, there's also a sense of state identity in opposition to South Dakota, Minnesota, Wyoming and Canada.
Identity is partly a function of population over distance. In a place like New York City, people may have a strong sense of identity tied to neighborhoods. In a large and heavily populated state like California, you reach a critical mass for a population to distinguish themselves by region fairly quickly. In a rural prairie state like North Dakota or South Dakota, identity tends to be spread out over a much larger area due to low population.
miketugboat@reddit
I'm happy to have one, but I'm not ecstatic about the one or their powers.
Kinda sucks knowing millions of americans from states with smaller populations have so much more political power over me
SabresBills69@reddit
I dont get your question
ursulawinchester@reddit
Washington DC like “you guys are getting representation?”
mwthomas11@reddit
I've never met any representative from anywhere I've lived, nor have I ever known where their offices are.
DrMindbendersMonocle@reddit
all states have at least 2 senators
Anustart15@reddit
Representative normally refers to the members of the house of representatives in this context.
annang@reddit
They apparently think there is some specific way people feel about their senators, and a different specific way people feel about their representative.
thatsad_guy@reddit
They arent referring to senators
Kestrel_Iolani@reddit
The States that have only one representative are either so small or so thinky populated that there aren't the grand north/south of east/west divisions you're talking about. The only large state with one rep is Alaska, and the rep will either be from Juneau or Anchorage, probably Anchorage.
annang@reddit
Wyoming and the Dakotas are pretty damned big.
annang@reddit
Yeah, most places aren’t like that. Including places with multiple representatives. Many states are pretty big and have lots of areas that a politician likely doesn’t have any “shared memories” of.
Meowmeowmeow31@reddit
Delaware is physically small anyway, so it’s fine. I went to high school with my current rep and used to see her around all the time when she was my state senator.
mustang6172@reddit
Delaware is very small.
johnqadamsin28@reddit (OP)
I'm sorry):
umplin@reddit
I live in Delaware and in the past year of living here I’ve met my congresswoman (Sarah McBride) and a senator (Tom Carper, who just retired.) I’ve also met my state rep and several city council members. In 30 years of living in California, I never met a single elected official! We might only have one congresswoman but she is very visible and responsive to her constituents, and the proximity to DC means that our senators and reps are in our communities very frequently.
Big_Lab_Jagr@reddit
They get over-representation in the senate
KJHagen@reddit
We recently picked up a second seat. When we just had one representative, they had offices in different areas of the state. They would travel and meet constituents when they were in town. Currently each of our two representatives have multiple offices. It works out okay.
ALoungerAtTheClubs@reddit
I don't see how it's materially any different.
Dave_A480@reddit
If you don't have enough population to have 2, then it's a statewide office just like Senate (But for a seat in the House)