Moving in with aging parents
Posted by jokey2017@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 43 comments
Husband and I are 45 and considering moving in with his aging parents. Our house would not work without extensive overhaul, so selling both homes and buying one together seems like the best option. They’re early-mid 70’s, but with lots of issues. Dad is doing ok, but we fear the constant care he provides for mom is starting to cause his health to decline. They’re currently about 30 mins away. From anyone who’s been down this road—advice? Is it too soon? He’s an only child & I have 1 out of state sibling, so we’re considering what might happen down the road with my parents, as well as our daughter in college. I grew up in a multi-gen household, so it seems very doable but we want to think things through. Who else is upsizing instead of downsizing in middle age?
Commercial-Mango-627@reddit
Coinkeedink! My wife and I are currently searching for OUR last home that will also house (short term) our 20 year old son AND her aged mother (no idea term). We have 7 requirements: main floor en suite bedroom, separate entrances, no HOA, less than a 40 min commute to their employment AND his girlfriend’s, fireplace, .25+ acre land, and 3bed 2bath. So my advice is make your checklist, but visit places that MIGHT work with some effort. Good luck!
MistyMtn421@reddit
Sorry, totally off topic but I just had to pop in and say it has been ages since I've heard that word and I don't think I've ever seen it written. Took me a minute to figure out what it was but when I did I smiled!
Catfiche1970@reddit
Duplex. Each couple needs their own space.
jokey2017@reddit (OP)
Oh yes. Hoping for 2 homes on a property, but if not, separate kitchens & entrances are a must.
MistyMtn421@reddit
A duplex really does sound like a fantastic solution. You could always put one of those doors like they have in hotel rooms that adjoin. That way if the weather is bad or it's the middle of the night and they need help you don't have to worry about going outside.
vodeodeo55@reddit
Two kitchens will be expensive but hold firm to it. My mom lived with her MIL for 30 years and sharing a kitchen made them both miserable.
Westofbritain413@reddit
I can't emphasize this enough. Two grown adult women cannot, or at least, should not, share a kitchen once they've had their own. Of course, there's exceptions, but in general, it's not a good idea.
Confident-Umpire3361@reddit
Honestly, spot on. My husband broke his femur into 3 pieces, and I swear having to share a house with someone with a different way of cooking/cleaning/organizing was so difficult, even if that person was our daughter (bless her for stepping up!)
Jillredhanded@reddit
I really tried living with my MIL. I love her but wound up eating Taylor Farms salads out of a dorm fridge in my room.
Entire-Mine-356@reddit
This is 100% true! I know from the experience. If you've never been in this situation, you don't understand.
Agent7619@reddit
My wife and her mom share a kitchen no problem. Because I do 85% of the cooking.
Business_Swan8209@reddit
Two women in the kitchen does not work. Ever.
Accidental-Aspic2179@reddit
MIL suite would work, you'd only be paying taxes on one property and you wouldnt have to separate utilities.
thehoagieboy@reddit
And give them the 1st floor unit because -> steps.
MundaneHuckleberry58@reddit
My brother just upsized to move our mom in. He found a sfh that has 2 primary suites, plus the upstairs is two bedrooms with a bath + a bonus room, perfect for the college aged kids.
It’s been good for all, for the most part.
bp3dots@reddit
We did this with my mom. Unfortunately she passed away shortly after, but I'm glad we did. If you have the option for someone to come do care and take that load off your dad, even better.
Only regret I have is that we couldn't make it happen sooner due to work..
badasschurchlady@reddit
Only child here. I’m 13 years into my mom living with me. Because I’m an only and my parents divorced when I was 3, once I got my actual adult shit together (around 30) mom and I had the foresight to setup me as her medical and financial POA (with immediate effect - not requiring an event or declaration of incompetence) and I’m joint (and beneficiary) on all her accounts. Those things have been invaluable. She developed (or I noticed she developed) vascular dementia about 10 years ago. Having access to everything I need to care for her and POA has made my life easier (not easy because of course she didn’t plan for needing long term care - she keeps saying, I just didn’t expect to live this long).
FBIVanNumber1543@reddit
My kind of lady!!! Same exact situation here. Been in Dad's basement for 15 years, and I would gladly do it again. Grandparents bought the place new back in the 60's, and they both passed away here. Dad had spent three of the last six months in the hospital, but is out now. He immediately tried playing the "woe is me", which I put a quick stop to. "No, I am not cleaning out a shitter chair. You are going to go to the bathroom, and use the toilet....". I did put a bidet toilet in for him though. Lol. One thing- does she own the home? We ALMOST made the mistake of adding me to the title/deed here. Went with a trust instead, which allows for the cost basis adjustment (less taxes and no probate) when he passes.
Just saying this, in hopes it helps anyone wandering around here.
Eredhel@reddit
r/AgingParents is a great place.
EmeraldLovergreen@reddit
You both should take a really hard look at how much care you’re going to be able to provide to them, and how much you actually want to do. It is not easy. My mom got brain damage/dementia from an illness when I was 18, and I lived with my parents for 15 years, from age 22-37 to help my dad take care of her. Right after I moved out, my dad was diagnosed with a terminal illness. They moved into independent living for the last two years of his life, and paid for extra care for their needs. At the time, we didn’t have a full grasp on the finances, or Medicaid eligibility, so when my dad died, my husband and I moved her in with us. My mom was relatively easy to care for, she is not combative, can feed herself (but not cook), can mostly dress herself, and we kept her occupied with coloring books while we worked at home. As long as there were no bathroom issues, and she got enough sleep/wasn’t sick, it wasn’t that hard, so on the surface, we should have been able to do it forever. But she can’t be left alone, we had to use a service to come stay with her when we needed a night off, or went on vacation ($35 an hour, with a 12 hour a week min if you booked coverage for the week). My husband and I never went to the grocery store together while she lived with us. It was always you take care of this, and I’ll go do that. There was no spontaneity, our entire lives were planned weeks in advance. If one of us had to travel for work it made a long week for the other person. Bathroom accidents were very hard. You can’t just pick up a 140 lb woman and put her in the bath. And she seemed to always have major diarrhea right before something important, which caused us to scramble. When she caught Covid, we learned that she can’t walk if she has a fever. I spent several nights sleeping on the couch with her sleeping in a recliner so that I could assist with going to the bathroom when her legs weren’t strong due to fever or lack of sleep. My husband developed anger issues and I suffered from anxiety. After 19 months we could no longer do it. She now lives in assisted living with memory care support and she’s doing ok. It’s a nice place, with plenty of activities every day, it’s not a nursing home. I’ve spent my entire adulthood caring for my mom in some capacity, and I just couldn’t give up any more of my own life doing it. I still handle all her finances, and admin needs, I still take her to appointments, and I visit regularly. But your idea, even with separate buildings or entrances is not something I’d ever consider doing after living through all of this.
All of that said, if your husband doesn’t have durable POA for finances and medical for his parents, that should happen soon. It will be much easier down the road if he’s able to assist with decisions.
Salty-Ambition9733@reddit
I agree.
My brother moved our dad (with dementia) in with him, despite my warning him that he would not be able to care for our dad.
Boy, did he regret it. Dad kept urinating all over the house. One morning he walked into the kitchen and urinated all over the island. Then he refused to shower. Then started arguing with my brother, repeatedly.
My brother moved our dad into Assisted Living, on a memory ward. Much better.
EmeraldLovergreen@reddit
My mom was never that bad, but she was fully continent until she caught covid. She’s had to wear depends ever since. She wore them after she came out of the coma for years, I think it was 10 years before she was able to wear underwear again. So it was pretty sad that she had to go back to depends again after not wearing them for at least 15 years. My mom’s biggest issue is that she wouldn’t recognize that she’d just had diarrhea and then would walk back to her bed and climb in. It always happened over night. So we’d get up like normal and then find the mess everywhere. One time it took me two hours just to get her cleaned up.
CynicalSunDevil@reddit
single floor duplex. You can modify, as needed. Create income when the time comes. And possible business/tax benefits. Especially if one of you wants to get your real estate license.
Several-Avocado5275@reddit
My uncle who had my grandfather living with him, until they could no longer lift him, told me about my mom - no matter what, do not have her move in with you. He was right and I didn’t. She is now gone and I’m pretty sure that if we had, it would have been the end of my marriage if we and I also probably would have smothered her with a pillow.
abouttothunder@reddit
It's an option. You need to consult with an estate planner and/or someone that can help navigate Medicaid lookback. As a family, you need to talk about various scenarios. What happens if someone needs more care than can be given at home? They might be candidates for assisted living now with access to skilled care if it becomes necessary. I'm not suggesting that your idea wouldn't work, just that you need to think hard together and discuss all of the contingencies you can think of. If dementia is or becomes an issues, there's no predicting how the behavioral side will go. Some people have serious problems with agitation and anger that can be hard to manage in a home setting. Good luck!
LayerNo3634@reddit
Not upsizing, but spouse and I have lightly tossed around the idea of selling our house when we're older and giving the money to the kids to upsize each of their homes to include an inlaw suite.
InternationalRule138@reddit
I’m an RN.
Independence and autonomy is really important for mental and physical health.
Reality is a lot is going to depend on finances.
What is their housing situation? Is it something that they can age in place in? If it is, I would honestly consider moving closer to them to support them instead of moving in with them. By living closer you can frequently popover with meals, help check on things, do chores, etc and it allows them to maintain independence.
If they can’t continue to age in place in their home you have a bigger problem. As you look for options, I would consider a house with an ADU that you can live onsite but separate. Or something where they have a separate apartment essentially.
Entire-Order3464@reddit
I would not.
Western-Watercress68@reddit
As an only child who has done this with two sets of parents, I respectfully say do not move into one home. Duplex, a shared property or living next-door is enough. I did this for 18 years and it is exhausting.
Olderbutnotdead619@reddit
Consider all sides. Some seniors say they want and will do something but as soon as you start cleaning out their possessions they go ballistic. Also, what happens if dad goes first? Who will care for mom 24/7? Any long term insurance policies?
Also they'll need to give you poa. Check with a lawyer
Mangolandia@reddit
1) Keep your finances separate. For anything merged, keep careful records. If you’re in the U.S., chances are some day they’ll need to rely on Medicaid and it will want everything basically like accounts payable/receivable books. I learned far too late. 2) Keep track of time spent on them and have a formal caregiver agreement in place. Set a wage for caregiving, accept their payments, put it in a trust. Again, so Medicaid spend down is less painful. Chances are at first the caregiving is mild, driving, occasional chores, but it can ramp up. 3) More on the emotional side: have a plan in place to get assistance when you and your husband travel. Then go somewhere. Just make sure you take time to nurture each other. This arrangement can really just eat away at personal time. 4) Do not feel guilty for what you can’t do. Feel proud of what you can.
gotchafaint@reddit
This thread has restored some of my faith in humanity. All I ever seem to read about is resentment toward aging parents. It’s nice to see families pooling their assets and pulling together.
asyouwish@reddit
Look for a place with a mother-in-law apartment.
jtuley77@reddit
We are doing that right now. We are looking for a bigger house so everyone, mostly the teenager, has space. My mother will have the walkout basement, which we refer to as a garden apartment.
My husband and I are both only children. We also take care of his parents and god mother who live about 5 minutes away. The house we just put a bid in could accommodate more people if they need to move in or stay with us for a bit. And it even has a paved ramp to the backyard so if my mother (or anyone else living with us) ever needs a wheelchair or scooter, the basement will still be accessible.
It can be a challenge but open, honest communication and some flexibility help. We did meet with an attorney to discuss possible issues and work through them. Mostly just making sure my mother is taken care of should something happen to me. If there is a sibling involved you definitely need to iron everything out ahead of time.
I will say mom’s doctor was so happy when she told her she was moving in with us. She wished it was a more common thing to do. And my mom has zero regrets even though we’re all packed in a small house for the moment.
Kmmkristin@reddit
I think a home with an apartment to rent would be very appropriate so yes a smaller home for your parents with privacy for all of you. It’s as rocky as any family dynamic and as smooth. But all changes create ripples.
Snoopysleuth@reddit
we did that. rent was getting too high for my parents. mine were terrific. good boundaries. no interference in out affairs. we bought a house big enough for them to have their own living room and bedroom. also the basement was wheel chair accessible. our youngest daughter was 12 at the time. best thing we did. they were so happy. all family and friends were so thankful. it was right before covid. both have passed on now. hope it works well for you. i just wish I got more time with them.
TorrEEG@reddit
We moved into my mom's house "temporarily" about 13 years ago after my dad died. She pays the house insurance and taxes because those bills she would have without us. We pay utilities and food because there are more of us.
A few years back, we built an accessible apartment on the property. A few years after that we added a little efficiency for my niece.
It was a rough adjustment at first, but it's working really well now. There is always someone to give a ride, or wait for the repairman, or remind us that it's trash night. We all have a bit more money than if we maintained separate homes.
Friends of ours built an accessible home for two families. They put a bedroom/bathroom/sitting room on each side of the house for private space. They have a common kitchen/living room/laundry. They are also enjoying retirement because there is always someone around to help.
NeiClaw@reddit
I moved in with my parents but they had complex and insidious medical issues and needed basically RTC care for years. They were lovely people but it was unbelievably hard and kind of broke my body, mind and bank account. These also aren’t your parents. Make sure you don’t become a default caregiver and set some clear boundaries about what you will and will not do or it will take over your life.
SnooSongs1447@reddit
In October 2020 our daughter, her partner, and my spouse and I sold our respective homes and jointly purchased a five-bedroom ranch home (2,500 sq ft) that would comfortably hold four adults and two very young children. At the time the oldest of us was 75 and the youngest was 6 months. Purchase price was $665k and within 15 minutes of downtown Denver. We hired a real-estate attorney to try to keep cost equitable for everyone. We certainly have some strife now and then but everyone of us agrees that we are very glad we did this. My spouse and I will be able to age in place (we hope) and our grandchildren have a wonderful relationship with us.
Few-Pineapple-5632@reddit
I will definitely do this within a few years.
swellfog@reddit
After my mom passed unexpectedly, we took care of my Dad with a degenerative disease. (I also, helped and spent a lot of time with my parents when my mom was still alive and she was struggling too).
It was hard at times, but I wouldn’t trade it for the world. I have such great memories, and knew I did all I could. Both of my parents had good dispositions.
Don’t buy anything too big, or try and stay at parents if possible. The less to take care of the better. Good luck!
Also, not sure about your out of state sibling, but they should not be expecting half of the estate. You are going to put in a LOT of hard work.
cgund@reddit
Yep keep good books, OP. We are out of state siblings to my MIL who was taken care of by the local sibling and the local sibling had to shell out a lot of money along the way. They rightly got reimbursed from the estate because they had good records.
copperfrog42@reddit
If everyone is on board with your plan, then why not? But you have to make sure that everyone has input on how it’s going to work.