What's different about living in the desert?
Posted by CollectionStraight2@reddit | AskAnAmerican | View on Reddit | 300 comments
Hello! As someone who comes from a mild and humid climate I'm wondering if there's anything different about living in the desert that wouldn't occur to people from elsewhere. Like for example guitars suffering from the aridity or something like that (guitars are all I can think of right now lol)
And to people who moved to a desert area from elsewhere, what were the first things you noticed, if anything, that were diffferent from your old home? Thanks :)
wwhsd@reddit
It takes less rain than someone that comes from a place with regular rainfall would expect for things to flood.
Also, a little bit of rain can make the busy roads really slick because it forces oil up out of the pavement or blacktop.
SkeetySpeedy@reddit
In Arizona just this last week we had crazy flash floods and a few people actually died in town about it. A few inches of rain is all we get in a year, but we get it all in like 30 minutes
Basically completely unheard of around here that people would be hurt/die from this within the actual city/metro. We don’t have natural disasters, the only weather that kills people is the heat being too hot.
PositiveAtmosphere13@reddit
On vacation when we were kids. We were playing in a drainage ditch. Some old man came out screaming like a lunatic for us to get out of the ditch.
mike_tyler58@reddit
First time in over 100 years it’s rained 5 days in a row in Phoenix
unknowingbiped@reddit
To be fair, everywhere else from the Rockies east get far more horrific rain, but its less of a problem.
A guy from work is an arizona native and did a whiskey circuit though the south and went through some mid country rainstorms and confirmed the arizona monsoons arent that bad.
As other people may confirm if the sky starts to turn black but also turns green or purple, you better get inside.
NWYthesearelocalboys@reddit
My wife and I were in New Orleans worried about a hurricane in AZ. If we got our original forecast of 9" our whole town would have washed away. Thats half our annual rainfall in one storm. Thank God it was way wrong.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
I guess that’s because the ground is unable to absorb all that water as well? The ground here is very hard.
I was wondering this when I was just on the west coast of Norway and it rained practically nonstop for two weeks. The rain kind of just vanished into the ground although everything was soggy muck. My hiking boots were soaked the whole time and I couldn’t get them to dry. Very little sunlight and 90% humidity. When I finally got back to Colorado I set them all out in the sun and they dried in an hour but stunk like hell. Idk what they do over there.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
1/4 inch upstream from me and my yard floods.
PositiveAtmosphere13@reddit
Instead of mowing the lawn, you rake the gravel.
SirMildredPierce@reddit
When things go "stale" they turn hard as a rock.
Imaginary_Ladder_917@reddit
I think it takes longer for things like chips or cereal to go stale, though. The bag can stay open longer without ill effect
Maurice_Foot@reddit
Moving from Florida sea level to New Mexico 7000 foot elevation, find bags of crisps that don’t go all soggy is freakin’ cool!
DBL_NDRSCR@reddit
wait wait wait you mean shit gets soggy when it gets old in wet climates? i never even thought of that, even in winter it always goes dry here
Lulwafahd@reddit
Yeah. Open a box of cookies, forget, go to work, go home, find "mysteriously" wet cookies that are soft and feel like a person with a fairly dry mouth put them all in their mouth and the back in the box and left the top open while you were gone.
We're talking ABOUT potato crisps that bend before breaking and aren't crisp at all, too!
PositiveAtmosphere13@reddit
Cookies, chips, crackers, boxes of Cap'n Crunch. Once opened if you don't reseal them up right away. They turn soft.
DBL_NDRSCR@reddit
that sounds so bad. stale chips just taste kinda weird here but besides that they're fine unless they're old enough to get moldy which has never happened to me
Nerisrath@reddit
people highly under estimate the i ncreased need for water both in arrid climates and higher elevations. you did both at once. kudos on not getting sick.
I went up Mt Elbert in Leadville CO and back down in about 7.5 hours total. Took only 6 bottles of water, not enough to get to over 14000ft and back for a newbie. had elevation sickness for the whole next day and drank 2 gallons without peeing. lesson learned the hard way.
ShortieFat@reddit
Also in the Southwest. I'm not at 7,000 feet or 14,000 feet, but high enough that I had to alter all my recipes that involved cooking rice. Also tire pressure check lights turn on more often.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
I get the tire pressure light when I drive out of the mountains. I pulled over the first few times because I thought I might have a leak from some forest service roads, but now I just ignore it.
PomPomMom93@reddit
Florida to New Mexico? That must have been quite a transition!
jane2857@reddit
Chips yes, bread no.
kelariy@reddit
Yea, after we switched to an evaporative cooler when our A/C broke, I noticed things going stale a lot faster.
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Oh wow, I never would've thought of that. Interesting!
AdFuzzy1432@reddit
So dry all the time. Nosebleeds every day.
ThrowawayMod1989@reddit
Yep. Grew up in the humid south. Moved to SW Colorado and had full on coke head nosebleeds for a solid year before I was told to put Vaseline in my nostrils lol
PorcelainPunisher1@reddit
Immediately what I thought of too. I joke with my husband and call it desert nose.
Also, the amount of hand lotion needed for my skin is unbelievable.
Queenfan1959@reddit
Buy a lot of body lotion and chapstick
LiqdPT@reddit
Which one of those is for your nostrils?
crazypurple621@reddit
You want gel saline for your nostrils. You can use aquaphor or Vaseline in a pinch though.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
I’ve lived here 5 years and finally started doing this. What a difference lol.
Queenfan1959@reddit
lol I use Vaseline but in a pinch I’d use the chapstick for my nostrils
OneleggedPeter@reddit
And a nice bottle of Chianti?
PomPomMom93@reddit
Amazing how many things I take for granted in a humid climate.
PorcelainPunisher1@reddit
The funny thing is that I prefer a dry climate. I grew up in Chicago where it’s really humid in the summers and I couldn’t handle it. My husband, on the other hand, grew up here in CA and loves coming to Chicago with me because he likes the humidity.
karenmcgrane@reddit
I don't live in the desert but I have friends who do and they have prescription hand lotion, nasal spray/lubricant, and they carry a water bottle everywhere they go
eccatameccata@reddit
Plus lubricant eye drops
nevadapirate@reddit
Ive been living in the desert for 15 years and have never had a nose blleed in all that time. And I dont know anyone else who has that issue.
cowgirlbootzie@reddit
You're lucky. One of my kids had non stop nose bleeds. I mean she would go thru a box of Kleenexes. Nurse said to have her sit with her head looking straight ahead and pinch her nose shut. And, of course ,hydrate,. They moved from the desert and that stopped. Incidently, that little girl would get the worst nose bleeds after being on an airplane trip. The airplane air is very dry too.
Prestigious-Wolf8039@reddit
Same here, but I did move from Utah which is pretty dry as well. Just not as much.
Recent_Data_305@reddit
Maybe you acclimated. My son and his family moved to the desert 2 years ago. He is still having nosebleeds.
nevadapirate@reddit
I moved here from the very humid California coast. I have not had a single nose bleed since before I moved here. I was acclimated to it before I moved here as near as I can tell.
Recent_Data_305@reddit
You’re fortunate. My son is in 29 Palms and works outside all day.
nevadapirate@reddit
Yeah I work outside too. Construction type stuff. Digging ditches and hauling lumber you know...
hermitzen@reddit
I don't live in the desert but I get nosebleeds all the time in the Winter in the northeast due to the dry air from heating the house. And when I have visited the desert, I didn't get nosebleeds, but if I ever blew my nose, there was always some dried blood involved.
jackaroo1344@reddit
Not everyone gets nose bleeds when the air is dry but it's not wildly uncommon I don't think. I live a place that has really cold dry winters and my roommate is always bleeding all over the place
BookLuvr7@reddit
Humidifiers really help with that ime.
Opposing_Thumb_Dude@reddit
I've lived in 3 deserts.
They're definitely dryer. I'm talking, go for too long of walk in the summer without water and you'll get sick or die dryer. Just being outside dries your skin, sinuses, eyes. Heatstroke happens before you become aware of it.
There are fewer clouds, so deserts are brighter during the daytime.
Streets don't get washed regularly with rainwater, so when it does rain, the build-up of various oils on the streets cause the streets to become as slick as ice.
Deserts do get some rain, but often all at once. The Sonoran and Mojave get monsoons. The deserts don't absorb the water very well, so there are flash floods every year.
lantana98@reddit
Your hair doesn’t get frizzy and puffy!
GenXer76@reddit
No slugs!
some_body_else@reddit
My first moments off the bus in Phoenix were spent marveling at the plant misters that were on the eave of the building. I'd only ever seen that in the produce section at the supermarket. Considering it was 106°f with maybe 10% humidity, the misters felt great. Lots of restaurants and businesses have them for their outdoor patios and entrances. I've even helped a friend install a mister system on their porch.
scottypotty79@reddit
You’ll want to keep lip balm and lotion handy. Most deserts get colder than one would think, so you’ll need warm and cold weather clothing.
Monte_Cristos_Count@reddit
Having a sprinkler system to water your lawn. It blew my mind that my east coast friends don't have this.
How contested water rights are among farmers
TheBimpo@reddit
We absolutely have sprinkler systems on the east side of the country. What’s actually mind blowing as why you guys have them in the freaking desert.
dontlookback76@reddit
My friend, I have spent my entire 49 years in the desert and can't for the life of me understand either. The jingle here "it's a desert out there, be water smart!"
Lithl@reddit
My parents live in rural North Texas. Not exactly the desert, but not exactly known for having tons of water sources, either.
A developer has bought land near them and is planning a housing development project... with lagoon shore access for all of the homes.
"What lagoon," you might ask? Good question. The largest body of water for miles is probably the ~100 ft. diameter pond on my parents' property. This developer is going to make their own lagoon~~, with blackjack and hookers~~.
"Where do you get the water from," you might ask? Another good question. Certainly not from the local water supply company that services all of the water to the homes in the area, since they've denied the developer's request for that much water (which the company doesn't have to give, anyway).
Watering a lawn in a desert is kinda dumb, but trying to build an artificial lagoon in an area that literally doesn't have that volume of water available for any price is fucking stupid.
FeralGiraffeAttack@reddit
If you live in a desert, why do you bother having a lawn instead of local plants that are acclimatized to the environment and don't need as much human intervention? Surely that's just a water bill expense you don't need
TheBrownestStain@reddit
Iirc some areas/cities actually are banning grass lawns and encouraging local plant gardens instead. I wanna saw Vegas has done so, it’s just that already existing lawns get grandfathered in or something
Organic_Direction_88@reddit
good, should’ve been done a long time ago.
gneissnerd@reddit
Las Vegas native here. You can actually date neighborhoods and tracts by how much grass is in the front yard. Pre-early 2000’s all properties were allowed grass in the front yard. Then there was a limited amount of square footage that could be grass in the middle of the 2000’s. Then grass in the front yard was banned completely. It’s been that way for over 10 years. Maybe even 15 years.
I live in an older home, 1980-81 and we had grass in the front yard. Got a rebate from the water district to tear it out and put in desert landscaping. Aside from drastically lowering the water bill it’s also nice to not have to get up at the ass crack of dawn in the middle of summer to mow the freaking lawn before it gets over 100 degrees.
Squishy-tapir11@reddit
And I don’t understand why we don’t have watering bans. When we got that torrential rain in Phoenix recently, our apartment complex kept the sprinklers going every night and the yard got all squishy. The cool thing I’ve learned about the desert is that things grow quickly and robustly after just a single rain.
NVJAC@reddit
Yes, the water district will even pay you to rip out your grass lawn.
UPDATE: SNWA approves increase in cash-for-grass program for residents
Listen2Wolff@reddit
Tuson
tent_mcgee@reddit
Lived in a small town in the desert and most “yards” were just the desert.
AZ-Rob@reddit
I was gonna say, lawn? Nah. Rock and native plants and cactus.
And the native trees you should cut off the irrigation after they’re established to force the roots deep so they don’t get uprooted during monsoons.
NWYthesearelocalboys@reddit
There's also vastly different deserts. I live in the Sonoran and I'm going to have to mow again for the second time in 2 weeks. Mostly natural grass because we still get regular monsoons here.
If I just water the dirt I get grass in the dry season.
Cheap_Coffee@reddit
That's like asking why people in the city buy big pickup trucks.
Because they can.
FeralGiraffeAttack@reddit
I guess, for me, doing something without a good reason is just confusing. The only people I know in cities with pickup trucks use them for hauling stuff out to job sites outside of the city
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
Lots of people just zeroscape their lawn, which is rocks. Lots of small round rocks.
Scrappy_The_Crow@reddit
TIL! I knew of xeriscaping, but had never heard the term for completely non-vegetated landscaping.
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
HOA's still exist in the desert, and they frown upon scrub brush lawns. So, the cheapest and most environmentally friendly option is zeroscaping.
Alum2608@reddit
Makes sense. You dont want anything super flammable in your yard due to the lack of rain
kitchengardengal@reddit
Xeriscaping does, indeed, use native vegetation along with rock and gravel.
In all my decades of gardening and horticulture classes, I have never heard of "zeroscaping" except as a mistaken term for Xeriscaping. Maybe it's become a trend of its own.
Scrappy_The_Crow@reddit
To clarify, I understood xeriscaping uses native vegetation. Read my above statement as:
EpicAura99@reddit
I saw a stat that something like 95% of pickup owners never/extremely rarely use it for something that necessitates a pickup. They’re by and large a style choice.
Imightbeafanofthis@reddit
When I retired I got rid of my pickup. I now have a van (that I almost never drive) for those rare instances when I need to haul stuff.
FeralGiraffeAttack@reddit
That makes sense sadly
Imightbeafanofthis@reddit
Or inside the city. Construction happens there too.
Curmudgy@reddit
It’s more like asking why someone in Miami would have a snowblower.
MonkeyKingCoffee@reddit
Moves the cocaine faster...
jhumph88@reddit
I lived in the desert for 7 years, my city gave out rebates for ripping out lawns. A friend of mine got like $8000 from the city to switch to desert scape.
crazypurple621@reddit
Albuquerque literally had an HOA have someone arrested for zeroscaping their lawn. The city had to step in after and pass legislation protecting zeroscaping.
HashishPeddler@reddit
Xeriscaping.
crazypurple621@reddit
Xeriscaping and zeroscaping are different. https://www.nmhometeam.com/blog/what-is-the-difference-in-zeroscaping-and-xeriscaping.html
Relevant_Elevator190@reddit
It actually helps to cool your yard.
Windyvale@reddit
While it’s super shitty, some HOAs mandate it from my understanding.
eyetracker@reddit
It was there when I moved in. Various "weeds" are taking over parts and I let them be, I don't mind losing some lawn as long as some parts are sittable. Also the grass is different, more drought tolerant.
Cranks_No_Start@reddit
I live in the mountain desert and while we do have an area that needs watering most of the property falls under the Ivan Drago landscaping rule… If it dies it dies.
GOTaSMALL1@reddit
My dogs need it for zoomies… and to poo.
needsmorequeso@reddit
That’s what I said when I moved out west. There’s not as much water. I’ll probably be drinking more of it to keep hydrated in a more arid climate. I’m certainly not dumping a bunch of it on a lawn when I could have rocks and native plants.
Sooner70@reddit
As strange as it sounds, my dogs clearly prefer pooping on grass.
Kittalia@reddit
Because my kids like to play on grass and not rocks or flower beds?
SplitOpenAndMelt420@reddit
People like grass
SplitOpenAndMelt420@reddit
I grew up on the East Coast and we very much have sprinklers to water our lawns
amboomernotkaren@reddit
Virginian here. We don’t water the grass. Frankly, I pray for August when it stops growing so fast.
OldJames47@reddit
I grew up in Upstate New York. I don’t know anyone that had an in-ground sprinkler system.
At best, people would sometimes run a hose to a temporary sprinkler when needed.
SplitOpenAndMelt420@reddit
Interesting! I'm also from New York, but Long Island and there were sprinklers everywhere
cool_chrissie@reddit
I live in Georgia and no one I know has sprinklers. I’m Denver if you don’t water everything will be dead in a few days.
xx-rapunzel-xx@reddit
lots of people do on the east coast! i do not. i only have the sprinkler that hooks up to the hose.
i would think lawns aren’t popular due to the extreme heat and the amount of water it needs to be taken care of properly.
eyetracker@reddit
Drip irrigation everywhere. And farms have central pivot irrigation (not uncommon elsewhere) that often shows up on "what's this thing?" subreddits when someone is on a plane.
Organic_Direction_88@reddit
Why are you wasting water on a stupid unnecessary lawn!
Curmudgy@reddit
We definitely have sprinkler systems here. It’s just that many lawns do well enough with just a hose sprinkler on an as-needed basis.
Exciting_Bee7020@reddit
Interesting. When I lived in the desert, we didn’t use sprinkler systems, we did irrigation. Basically you flood the lawn every two weeks and let it soak into the soil.
Rashaen@reddit
If it's an American dessert, keep an eye out for wildlife. Both the plants and animals have a decent chance of being pointy and possibly poisonous or venomous.
Look at everything before you touch it. If you can't see it, don't reach in there. This goes for shoes, work benches, underneath cars, everything. Scorpions and rattlesnakes like to tuck into dark little corners for some quiet time, and they do not appreciate your squishy pink appendages in their personal space.
DrTenochtitlan@reddit
In Phoenix, when it rains, a lot of times you can actually smell the dirt and pollution being washed out of the air. The air smells incredibly clean after a rainstorm.
Designer-Carpenter88@reddit
When it’s hot AF, it’s not near as bad as humid hot places. At least we sweat and it evaporates and makes you cooler, like it’s supposed to. Also, don’t turn over big rocks without expecting something underneath. (I’ve lived in Arizona my entire 50 years on this earth)
Kakistocrat945@reddit
Coasters for iced drinks? Who needs 'em? The air is so dry and the dewpoint is so low that glasses seldom sweat enough to potentially cause water damage.
Now...coasters for hot coffee and tea are still necessary.
No_Beautiful_8647@reddit
You can really take advantage of having a solar oven. Free energy for cooking!
teslaactual@reddit
Dust and dirt everywhere, everything's varying shades of tan, pollen everywhere, lots of nosebleeds dry skin, monsoons that cause flash floods
eyetracker@reddit
Note that desert means low rainfall and dry. The US has 4 distinct deserts and you're probably picturing the Mojave (Vegas) or Sonoran (saguaro cactus)in your head, but there's also the Chihuahua deserts with different flora and fauna, and the the Great Basin which is a cold desert and you might want to picture Central Asia. Temperature swings both in a day and throughout the year can be dramatic, but especially in the GB late afternoon to dusk cools to a lovely temperature in summer, and can be ultra cold in winter.
Echoing other comments: dry skin, nosebleeds is about all I have to worry about. If you get spring allergies, good news! There's also fall allergies (rabbit brush). But all and all I enjoy not having humidity.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
I am in the Chihuahuan desert.
ShortieFat@reddit
All desert-acclimated weeds are designed to go from sprout to flower in a matter of days. You gotta get out with a hoe soon after a storm rolls through--sit on it too long and suddenly you've got a yard full of tumbleweeds 4 feet tall.
DosZappos@reddit
I grew up in Indiana and lived in the desert in Southern California for a couple of years. A thing that caught me off guard early on was the temperature changing so drastically when the sun went down. I was used to the moisture in the air holding the heat from the daytime in the summer, so it would only drop from like 90 to 80. In the desert it’ll go from 115 to 65 by midnight. It was nice to have a use for all my sweatshirts year-round
Vexonte@reddit
Temperature extremes. It can go from 100 F at midday to 40 F at midnight. Temperature sucks out of you quicker if you are laying on the ground.
I haven't personally seen it but I've heard stories of people getting hypothermia in the desert during the summer because they didn't take proper precautions sleeping outside at night.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
I have seen temperatures go from 87 to 37 in the middle of the day.
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Yeah I've heard of that one, that the temperature really drops at night which some people don't expect 😬
bananabuckette@reddit
Mmmm my hair is always fabulous so the long the wind doesn’t turn it every which way
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Oh yeah this is a good one! My hair is prone to frizziness and when it gets really humid here it's just ridiculous
pitizenlyn@reddit
I also have the curly frizzy hair and it behaves so much better when I'm in humidity. The super dry air just makes it a mess. Add the slightest breeze and its all over for the day.
PomPomMom93@reddit
I’m surprised I had to scroll this long for someone to mention it! My hair literally looks different every day here. Humidity makes it curl.
cool_chrissie@reddit
My blowout lasted so much longer when I lived in Colorado. But my hair was never hydrated enough.
JustAnotherDay1977@reddit
You want to drink water long BEFORE you get thirsty. And not just if you’re outside or working out.
pitizenlyn@reddit
I have lived in Arizona my entire life and I was 45 before a doctor told me that all of the sinus infections and UTIs were from dehydration. You know how people in Europe make fun of Americans carrying a water bottle everywhere? I dont even care. Laugh at me. I ain't leaving home without it.
tocammac@reddit
I had a friend who did military service in Arizona. He said that while you need to drink a lot, he found he didn't really think about it, but just naturally was taking drinks regularly
JustAnotherDay1977@reddit
Yeah, I think people just naturally learn that over time.
Cheap_Coffee@reddit
I guessing desert people don't have dehumidifiers in their basements.
Do desert people have basements?
Mffdoom@reddit
Depends on location. Lots of the southwest desert doesn't have enough soil to dig a basement out. You dig through a few inches of caliche and then hit limestone. With enough open space as we have, it just makes sense to build out instead of down.
crazypurple621@reddit
Not really. It's VERY hard to dig through clay so predominately you don't dig a basement.
DrBlankslate@reddit
We don’t, but in my area it isn’t due to dryness. It’s because earthquakes are real and happen a lot.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
What is a dehumidifier and a basement? Those are foreign words to desert rats.
CocoaAlmondsRock@reddit
It depends on the substrate of the place where they live. Basements are limited to very specific substrates, water table levels, etc.
jessek@reddit
Some do but a lot of desert homes are on slabs or have crawl spaces.
RogLatimer118@reddit
Skin itches from low humidity.
Prestigious-Wolf8039@reddit
I have a humidifier in the case of my acoustic guitar.
Electrical_Sample533@reddit
One thing I noticed when visiting an area that wasn't a desert after growing up in a desert is just how much the temperature drops after dark. Its typically 30 to 40 degrees. You can have a tee shirt day and snow night. Also green in August is just weird.
ShinyAppleScoop@reddit
Your hair isn't as frizzy as you thought.
SouthpawSoldier@reddit
Swamp coolers; cracking the windows and using a swamp cooler for temperature control in the home is much cheaper and has a lot of benefits compared to standard central AC. Downside is they only work in arid environments, and protecting them and cleaning them can be a chore.
RealAmyRachelle18@reddit
Your car won’t rust but all the plastic in the interior will eventually dry out and crack.
Fun_Variation_7077@reddit
After well over a decade of driving in the northeast, I would very happily trade with you and have a cracked interior instead.
SouthpawSoldier@reddit
Sun/sand damage to paint is real too.
RealAmyRachelle18@reddit
After the plastic cracks when you turn your radio up the interior riddles to the beat of the music.
Shoddy_Consequence78@reddit
The clear coat takes a real beating too.
jhumph88@reddit
And the few times it rains, you find out that your wiper blades are completely dried out and useless
Diligent_Squash_7521@reddit
Arizona gets haboobs - a wall of dust that passes through.
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Is it dangerous or just unpleasant? Like I assume you might have to cover your nose/eyes etc?
SouthpawSoldier@reddit
I was once caught in one in the Middle East.
In an open bed truck with guys in the back. We in the cab stripped off our shirts for them to cover their heads.
Couldn’t see the road ahead; I was in passenger seat, had to crack the door and look down for shoulder of the road as we kept going (SLOW) with hazard lights on. Passed a few who’d pulled over to wait it out (we couldn’t), and ended up leading them back to a populated area.
Carlito2393@reddit
I got caught in one while riding a motorcycle and I was very glad I was wearing a leather jacket, jeans, boots, and a helmet. So many idiots ride in shorts, tank tops, and flip flops out here.
crazypurple621@reddit
You literally cannot see through them and they're painful if you get caught in them.
AZJHawk@reddit
You don’t want to be driving in it. If you stand outside in one, it’s unpleasant, and you have to worry about falling branches and lightning, but not the dust itself.
Scrappy_The_Crow@reddit
It can damage aircraft on the ground and pose flight risks due to engine damage, windscreen scouring, or "brownout" (can't see through the dust).
Atomic_Priesthood@reddit
Deserts are the West's version of hillbillies.
Notquite_Caprogers@reddit
I've only lived in the desert. When I visit other places it's genuinely a bit hard for me to breathe with how wet the air is (Alabama and even the coast of my state at times) I'm amazed at how wet things are, and horrified.
Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit
Mold is far less of a concern. This is kind of niche, but I grew up riding horses in the desert, and went into horse training professionally so worked at some barns in more humid climates. There's no such thing as too much conditioning for leather tack in the desert, but there actually is in more humid climates. I had to recalibrate some of my tack cleaning habits, lol.
The intensity and extreme variations in weather are another one I see a lot of people not be prepared for. I used to do SAR, and so many people were convinced it was fine to hike up to 10K+ feet in elevation because it warmed up a lot in the sun at 3K feet. In the desert, you don't have the same level of moisture in the atmosphere to kind of stablilize things, so elevation and whether the sun is out or not really fucking matters.
In general, I think the desert is much easier and more comfortable to live in, but that's probably because that's what I grew up with, lol. I have lived in more humid areas and don't know how y'all do it.
Grilled_Cheese10@reddit
FWIW, I spent just 10 days in the desert (SoCal) a few weeks ago. I'm from the Midwest-not the most humid part of the country, not by a long shot. In that short time I was amazed at how quickly towels and wash cloths dried. I was able to go out running in 80°- 85° early morning weather and remain reasonably comfortable. I hate running outside much above mid-70s at home, and prefer 50s or 60s. I did need nasal spray, though. Also, my nose did not run constantly. When I came home and cleaned up 10 days of fallen leaves I immediately started back with my nose running, which makes me think I need to see an allergist.
PomPomMom93@reddit
Could it be mold? My husband had the EXACT same issue and it turns out he was allergic to mold in the ground (we live in the Midwest too). The reason his allergies cleared up when we visited the desert is because the ground was too dry for the mold to grow. I finally managed to get him to go to an allergist and he can breathe again.
Grilled_Cheese10@reddit
I have my annual physical coming up in a couple of weeks and I intend to ask my doctor if he can recommend an allergist. Thanks.
PomPomMom93@reddit
For me, it’s the same reason: I grew up here. But nobody makes fun of Midwesterners more than Midwesterners, and I think joking about the humidity is a big part of how we get through it. “It’s not the heat, but the humidity that gets ya.” Or the winter version: “It’s the wind that gets ya.”
Maurice_Foot@reddit
Before moving to New Mexico, we flew out to visit family and look around. One July day we took a drive up to the crest overview of Albuquerque (10k + feet elevation), wearing shorts and light shirts. There was still snow under the trees, the parts that never had any sun on the ground. Learned our lesson; keep puff coats ina small bag, in the trunk of the car, along with a few bottles of water.
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Oh yeah I see what you mean. I used to ride and I can imagine tack would get much drier or even crack so you'd need to condition a lot more. And yeah bits etc. can definitely rust and need to be dried well here. In general there's just more danger of rust and mould etc in humidity. For example I parked my car too close to a damp, shady corner of the house last winter and some mould grew on the seat, which i doubt would happen in a desert!
Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit
Yeah, that would not happen where I live! My car actually has a leaky sunroof, and I'm only ever reminded if I happen to drive it within a few hours of a big rain storm (because when it does rain here, it tends to rain like crazy lol) before the water has a chance to evaporate. Apparently people in more humid climates care about leaky sunroofs because it can lead to mold, lol.
montelius@reddit
Sweating actually works in the dry heat
OkArmy7059@reddit
I have no lawn to mow, it's great
show_me_your_secrets@reddit
My skin is very dry
DoubleResponsible276@reddit
I recall seeing a guy move out to the desert and building a home on YouTube shorts over a few months. Resources are scarce. Even if the city installs electricity or water, the heat can cause overheating issues on stuff, especially if you’re working outside. I can’t imagine the power going out in the middle of the day inside of a home in that environment
jessek@reddit
Mold isn’t as much of a problem as it is elsewhere.
UninitiatedArtist@reddit
A photographer’s and antique book collector’s dream.
hx87@reddit
If you have a swamp cooler though shit can go bad real quick.
Silver_Prompt7132@reddit
I had some very targeted mold problems in the desert due to always blasting my humidifier in the same corner of my bedroom. But once I moved the steam machine, it all languished and died.
Corryinthehouz@reddit
Funny enough, the heat feels better due to the lack of humidity. 90 in Arizona is different than 90 in Florida
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Yeah so I hear. It's so humid here (Ireland) it can be pretty unpleasant even at 25C (77F)
unknowingbiped@reddit
Moving from climate like Oslo to Gibralter i can attest being familiar with -30⁰f -35 and going to 100⁰f 37 during the summer is terrible and being familiar with 115⁰f 46 and going to 60⁰f 15 is terrible.
The first year I moved to Arizona no matter the temp above 70⁰f 19 I just dripped sweat even though I didn't feel hot. Now 70⁰ 19 is chilly, and I can like sit outside in the shade at 100⁰f 37 and enjoy it, maybe a little damp.
(I eyeballed the temp conversions off my outside thermometer, its 19:00 and 75⁰f 25 bonus info I keep my house at 78⁰ during the day and 72⁰ at night during the summer and in the winter i turn the heat on so it doesn't get below 62 or 65. It can snow here in the low desert)
Nerisrath@reddit
come try a summer in the south east of US. July and August regularly(at least one week a summer) see 36C or higher and 95-100% humidity. Just about anywhere from East Texas to the Atlantic, as far north as Kentucky/ West Virginia /Virginia. 25C and highly humid is a nice spring day!
jhumph88@reddit
I grew up in the northeast and we had pretty humid summers. I moved to the SoCal desert and 100 was perfectly comfortable, even 110 was fine. I went back to visit this August, and it was 90 and humid and absolutely unbearable.
Kittalia@reddit
The nights can get really cold even if the days are warm. Also the stars are amazing because the air is less hazy.
PomPomMom93@reddit
I noticed this when I visited AZ! If I’m not mistaken, it’s because the sun is what makes it hot? Here it’s still warm at night because of the humidity.
Shoddy_Consequence78@reddit
The low humidity and lack of cloud cover means that there's less thermal mass keeping the place warm. For example, most of central New Mexico today had a high of about 70 and a low of about 40.
looselyhuman@reddit
Both of these are especially true in the high desert. Phoenix otoh is hot all night. More atmosphere plus absorbed heat.
Icy_Profession7396@reddit
In some places, they need potholders to open their car doors.
FishrNC@reddit
Dry eyes.
DynamiteWitLaserBeam@reddit
We don't have cold tap water in the summer. We have hot and warm.
1PumpkinKiing@reddit
I was born in a high desert and have lived most of my life here.
Nose bleeds are prettymuch daily for me.
I drink 2 or 3 gallons of water a day when I'm not outside, and I can still get so dehydrated that my bottom line splits open, and I have a scar there. And I also make sure to stay on top of my electrolytes.
It's common for the nights to be 30 degrees F colder than the days, it was 80 today, and tonight is gonna get down to about 45.
Snow is possible in the desert during winter, especially in high deserts (deserts at high elevation). So it is possible to die from heat stroke during the day, and hypothermia at night.
The desert still gets rain, but it's usually in short bursts, and the ground basically has no clue what to do with it, so you get flash floods that can push vehicles off the road, knock over buildings, and easily cost you your life. Plus for some reason the power companies never seem to protect their equipment from rain, so probably 80% of the time when it rains, you're gonna lose power for at least a few minutes, if not a few hours, or a day. And that can even happen with a light sprinkling for 2 minutes.
You MUST keep water and some type of electrolytes in your vehicle all year long, because getting stranded between 2 cities for a few hours can end you if you don't have a good way to stay hydrated. Too many people don't do this, and they are just asking to die. When I was a kid we got stranded on an old highway than no one uses anymore, with a busted car, no water, no way to call for help, and miles from the nearest anything. The only reason we survived was because a trucker that had gotten lost saw us and stopped to help and gave us a ride to the nearest gas station, many miles away. So always take at least 3x the amount of water you think you will need for at least 2 days. It seems ridiculous,but it could 100% save your life. I take a minimum of 7 gallons of water in a large container, 1 or 2 bottles plus whatever I'm currently drinking, and a case of sports drinks, plus some extra electrolyte powder. That way I have myself covered for about a week, or if I have a couple passengers I can take care of us for about 3 days.
Also, sleeping bags and/or blankets are important. If you've ever slept, or even just been stranded in a vehicle in the snow for a few hours, or days, you know how cold it can get. I always have more than enough blankets and sleeping bags for 4 people to bundle up together.
And snacks. Keep snacks in your vehicle. Blankets are great, but you need calories for your body to generate heat, and you need calories to keep your strength and keep your mind clear so you can make the right decisions and take the correct actions to survive a bad situation.
I go a bit overboard on some things, because I like having the freedom to be able to be going to the store, or coming back from a family dinner, and just be like screw it, I'm going on a roadtrip, or I'm going camping. And I'll call my brother and tell him where I'm thinking about going while I'm driving, and I'll just go and not have to stop anywhere before I leave. But I would at bare minimum keep 5 gallons of water, some electrolyte powder, a few blankets, and a basic survival kit in your vehicle, regardless of where you live.
Oh, and dust. Dust is everywhere, and it's constant, especially in the season I like to call "Fire Wind". And you can't forget that everything has spikes, thorns, poison, venom, and wants to kill you.
mustang6172@reddit
Her mama was a dancer
And that's all that she knew
'Cause when you live in the desert
It's what pretty girls do
TenMoon@reddit
I lived in Tucson, Arizona, for five years. When I wanted to wash clothes in cold water in the summer, I had to get them into the machine no later than 7 am.
Also, people say, "It's a dry heat," meaning it's not so bad because it's not a humid climate. Well, true, sort of. But when you do laundry or dishes, or take a shower, suddenly you've created all kinds of humidity in your house. And you're miserable because you can't get your house below 85 F. (Only rich people had air conditioning; I was one of those poor souls who didn't.)
All my friends were poor as well, so when we visited each other in the summer, we all knew to knock loud and wait for the person inside to yell, "Wait a minute." After a minute, the door would open. What was that delay? That was the inside people rushing to put clothes on, because when we were home without company over, we all sat around in our underwear.
I do miss the clear night skies.
steven-needs-help@reddit
You’re not nearly as sweaty. As long as you stay hydrated it’s all good but if your not on top of your water intake then you will get dehydrated before you notice your sweating
SabresBills69@reddit
Depends on where you live.....
Most of the west in summer is liw humidity. The coast areas gave more humidity but it cooler without heat index.
PBW gets more humid m id- oct- mud m arch with kn shore moisture. Ghf humidity is 70+ but the most are mid 69s or less do its not humidity
The area east of the cascades is considered a desert because of lacking moisture.
Something you need yo lear and understand is wildfires. Anywhere in the west can get these.
fir_meit@reddit
Snow can sublimate. The air is so dry the snow turns into a vapor before it can melt. You can wake up to everything covered in snow and by 11:00, it’s gone and the ground isn’t even damp.
Due_Classic_4090@reddit
I love the dry desert. It’ll dry your clothes fast after washing. When I visit other places, it makes so so grateful for the dry heat.
Apocalyptic0n3@reddit
It did absolutely incredible things for my sinuses. I went from 5+ sinus infections a year to 1 in nearly 15 years.
Everything is always covered in a thin layer of dust. You only really notice it when you look at your windshield, though.
There isn't much shade from trees, as you might imagine. There's a lot of trees, they're just short.
During the summer, there is no such thing as a "cool breeze" to cool you down like there is in humid places. No, any sort of wind feels like a freaking oven door opening up.
We don't get much rain, but when we do it's intense. We've had 2 microbursts in the last month and even the non-microbursts are crazy. Rain so thick you can't see 50 yards away. Wind so strong it'll prevent you from opening a door or make you worry your car is going to get thrown off the freeway. And things flood so much more quickly when the ground is dry.
Oh and we have haboobs, I guess. That was an interesting revelation when I moved here.
MiniFancyVan@reddit
Rodents moving into your vehicle engine and destroying it.
Honeybee3674@reddit
I was a kid, but here is what I remember about Phoenix, AZ:
Everything was hot: sidewalks, slides, cars, seat buckles, everything hot to the touch.
I have had curly hair all my life, except for the years we lived in the desert.
My skin was dry and peely. I legit thought I was a starchild, like the half lizard girl from the miniseries V, and all my skin would peel off and I would turn into a 16 year old overnight.
Bugs were no longer my friends. I had to learn to stay away from tiny fire ants that hurt badly, giant ants, black widow spiders, and biting black flies.
If your brother catches a lizard by the tail, the tail will break off, and the lizard will run away.
Stay out of people's yards. Cacti are not fun to step on.
I missed grass badly.
It's very hard to find shade.
You can't play outside during the summer, so you get scared shitless watching Poltergeist at the babysitter's house instead.
You have to go to school in the winter when the weather is actually nice out.
You never see the horizon because of the mountains.
I don't miss the desert at all. I was happy when we moved back to the Midwest.
Maurice_Foot@reddit
I grew up in Florida and the only horizon was at Gulf. The rest of the time everything was obscured by trees.
Here in New Mexico, I step out my front door and there’s mountains 80 miles away. Still amazed at the long vistas after 20 years. Sure, to the left there’s mountains 3 miles away and an old volcano to the right.
MelodiousMelly@reddit
I grew up in a large valley surrounded by hills/mountains. The first time I visited a region with no hills nearby, and could see a 360 degree flat horizon, it kind of freaked me out. I felt exposed and unprotected, somehow. Funny how our environments imprint on us without us realizing.
notyourmama827@reddit
You drink more water, and sunscreen and lotion are your skin buddies. It gets hot , but it's a dry heat.
yours_truly_1976@reddit
It gets cold at night.
Nancy6651@reddit
Car batteries crap out sooner than when we lived in the midwest.
Maurice_Foot@reddit
After first year in New Mexico I developed an allergy to juniper and now after 20 years, I’m allergic to just about everything that grows out here.
Ordinary_Camel_3456@reddit
Our battery craps out before the warranty frequently! A positive!
da_chicken@reddit
I have no seasonal allergies in Michigan or Ohio, but everyone else in my family does.
When I lived in Tucson, I had seasonal allergies (mesquite tree bark fungus) but nobody else in my family did when they came to visit.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
The desert would not be good for you.
hatred-shapped@reddit
The number of windshields I went through per year. I lived in Phoenix for about 8 years and I think I averaged about 2 windshields a year.
TheyMakeMeWearPants@reddit
What about the desert makes you go through windshields so fast?
hatred-shapped@reddit
There are little tiny rocks lining the roads. And the wind storms blow them onto the roads
CinemaSideBySides@reddit
That makes way more sense than what I was imagining, which was it being so hot and sunny that windshields would spontaneously burst like in an old Memorex commercial
hatred-shapped@reddit
No, but the interior of my car would routinely reach about 160-180° f in the summer
Maurice_Foot@reddit
Best vehicle I had for the desert was a white SUV with a moon roof could up open for venting air and a remote controlled hatchbag that we could ooen when 100’ away, to let the hot air out in one big huff.
PomPomMom93@reddit
Well, my husband and I live in the humid Midwest, and he had horrible allergies. They all cleared up when we visited the desert. I think the fact that it’s so dry is the biggest difference.
coyote_prophet@reddit
In my home state of NM I can stand under a shady tree drinking water (or sweet tea, I AM southern after all) in 90F to recover from the heat while working outside. Desert heat is dry and much more tolarable than wet heat. Where I live now in SC, 90F with "normal" daily humidity feels like being boiled in a greasy soup.
BotherBoring@reddit
The weather stripping on your car will probably behave differently.
chaamdouthere@reddit
Things dry super fast. You don’t sweat much (therefore don’t smell as much). Basically no mold. Cracked hands and lips and chapped skin. Your clothes stay wrinkled if you don’t iron it. Going barefoot can get dangerous (cactus, goat heads, etc.). Humidifiers are your friends. You shock yourself a lot (turning on the light, grabbing a car door handle, running your hand through your hair) which is why a humidifier is your friend.
ssgtdunno@reddit
I never went anywhere without at least 40 oz of ice water.
Also your house will have this thing called a “swamp cooler” that’s very confusing… it’s an affordable alternative to a/c. There’s a thing that looks like an A/c on your roof, but it’s really wet pads with forced air that humidify your house just enough so you think it’s cool. Doesn’t work at all on actual “humid” days so having a/c as a backup is nice. If it acts funny just spray with a garden hose for a while.
I moved into my house in August and in late Oct I noticed my hot water wasn’t working. Turns out the landlord had never turned it on but it was still shower hot until then!
Marisa-Makes@reddit
It's good practice to shake out your shoes or any clothing that's been stored for a while. There's lots of venomous creepy crawlers like scorpions and black widows.
Traveling-Techie@reddit
You have to water your trees.
MossAvenger@reddit
No mosquitoes! Also, when I noticed a towel wasn’t quite dry I would still put it in the cupboard. It would dry quickly. I never used a hair dryer. I would get in the car to drive to work with nearly dripping wet hair. After driving 15 minutes to work with the windows down it was neatly dry and ready to get put up in a ponytail.
Unreasonably-Clutch@reddit
Biggest dimension I noticed personally was that it is in fact really quite nice and uplifting living somewhere with 300 days of sunshine and flowers blooming year round.
Unreasonably-Clutch@reddit
Every year in Phoenix, several tourists (and some locals) die from heat stroke because they didn't realize how much water evaporated from their skin until it was too late.
rinky79@reddit
Popcorn and chips and other things that need to stay dry to stay crispy don't really ever go stale. And on the other hand, a piece of bread or donut will start noticeably drying out on a sliced surface in like 10 minutes.
Your towel is always dry in the morning, even if you showered before bed, and you never discover that it got mildewy unexpectedly.
You have to drink more water even if you aren't doing anything to get sweaty.
The shade can be 10-15 degrees cooler than direct sun, since there's no humidity in the air holding heat. (This depends on location.)
Dust is everywhere.
Unusual_Form3267@reddit
You can make miniature lightning storms in your bed!
It gets so dry that it raises that static electricity in the air. The first night after moving to a dry climate, I was laying in bed in the dark, and I ran my hands over the blankets. I saw the miniature flashes of baby lightning bolts. It freaked me out the first time!
Also, sometimes, I get shocked touching doorknobs. I hate it.
Sledgehammer925@reddit
Putting vaseline up your nose is quite normal.
Wizzmer@reddit
Your skin must be moisturized after every shower.
MadMadamMimsy@reddit
It's dry. So, you dry quickly after a shower (no worries about the towel getting that funky mold smell) and then your skin feels like it shrunk and could crack. Lips, too. It wasn't an issue until I grew up, but that's when I learned to slather lotion all over.
Sand in my back teeth. I forgot about that after I left. I returned to spend time with my dad, it was 105 in May and I went to the ATM. In those few moments out of the car the sand got in my mouth. Oh, yeah, I thought. I didn't miss this. The wind blows constantly. It blows dresses up, too, so I stopped wearing them very early on (1960s).
You don't know what hot is until you put a bare foot on the sidewalk in summer. Few can walk barefoot across asphalt but we admired those who could
There is probably more that I'll remember at 4am.
I spent my first 18 years in the Mojave desert.
Appropriate-Owl7205@reddit
I don't live in a desert but drive out to them pretty often. One thing I've noticed is that you can build your outdoor furniture out of untreated wood and it won't rot.
ccroy2001@reddit
There's often a lot of static electricity. Touching metal doorknobs or other objects and you get a zap!
scarlettohara1936@reddit
In the desert, everything bites. Even the grass is pointy enough to draw blood! Many of the critters are actively trying to kill you. Or at least harm you. A lot of the plants too!
Also, especially in the summer, you have to make a conscious decision every day to live and stay alive. You need to eat and especially drink. You drink more than you think you need, than a little more. You stay away from the sun. You have emergency supplies with you at all times.
hx87@reddit
Air drying clothes indoors is viable year round, not just winter
Running the bath fan during/after a shower is unnecessary (No 2 is a totally different matter)
American police are pretty lenient about car tint in general, but in western TX you can probably run blackout tint on your windshield and the police won't give a damn.
Old cars last forever
Happy_Michigan@reddit
The direct sunlight is so intense even in the winter, it can feel like it's burning your skin. Animals should never be left outdoors without shade, including horses. Please provide shade for animals!
Small dogs can be prey for coyotes at night, dawn or dusk. Don't leave them outdoors.
The intense sunlight can burn the finish off an older car, especially if the color is dark.
No_Foundation7308@reddit
Moving from Florida to Las Vegas I went through about a year of semi-frequent nose bleeds and sinus issues from the dry air. Took a while to acclimate. On the other hand, my curly hair can actually hold nicely styled curls instead of just being a frizzy lions mane.
Ok-Understanding9244@reddit
Absolutely guitars suffer from the dryness...and anything else that is wood, like real wood furniture can crack and deform, sometimes very badly...
Nosebleeds are more common in arid climates, so if that's a problem for you now, it'll get worse...
Head hair can feel limp or dead in arid climates, for some people with curly or frizzy hair it can be great or terrible.. my sister hated it..
Doing anything outside will make you thirsty within like 30-60 minutes..
It gets REALLY COLD, REALLY FAST in the mountains when humidity is low, water vapor in the air holds heat much longer
Quix66@reddit
Things look nearer than they are because the air is less humid. That mountain you think is 'right there' might be 10 miles away.
Informal_Tell78@reddit
I live in Phoenix Arizona. We don't have to worry about our cars rusting out. My bath towel is dry before the next day, if I hang it up.
EtriganZola@reddit
You use a bath towel? I just stand there for a minute.
nirbenvana@reddit
Metal lasts forever. Plastic that is left outside on the other hand...
pee_shudder@reddit
I don’t think people really understand the temperature extremes in deserts until they have experienced them.
Sure, 110 during the day. It sucks.
But fuck man the COLD at night is totally unreal it is this icy, penetrating, un-earthly cold unlike anything else.
The closest comparison is being far out at sea at night where the air robs you of all heat.
kit0000033@reddit
The air is dirty.... When it rains you gotta wash your car afterward... From living in southern New Mexico.
Relevant_Elevator190@reddit
Very hot in the summer and cold and snowy in the winter where I live in Utah.
bjot@reddit
Parties and bbqs are an evening event. Like around 5 when the suns still out but its getting lower that's when you tell people to start coming over
BobsleddingToMyGrave@reddit
Checking your shoes for scorpions?
crazypurple621@reddit
Hi! I live in New Mexico. It's HIGH desert which presents some really interesting problems.
1) everything takes longer to bake here 2) fruit will literally desiccate here. 3) the heat requires a lot more electrolytes in your diet, not just plain water to actually keep you hydrated 4) you need sunscreen here inside in the summer and outside year round 5) sun clothing works better to keep you cool than exposed skin 6) the desert gets COLD at night because there is nothing trapping in the heat 7) flash flooding is a concern in any desert because clay cannot easily absorb rapid rainfall. This means that we have to have massive runoff ditches all over to handle the water.
GSilky@reddit
It's dusty AF. Shit gets in everything.
notrealtoday92@reddit
Tumbleweeds and wind blowing sand and dirt everywhere!
NVJAC@reddit
You step out of the shower and the water evaporates off your body within a few seconds. A lot of times the mirror doesn't fog up at all.
crafty_j4@reddit
I moved from New England to SoCal
There’s a lot less vinyl siding. It seems like most buildings are stucco
No basements. Maybe there’s some exceptions, but I don’t know anyone here with a basement.
Less need for AC. I typically don’t turn mine on it until it gets over 80 here, and I don’t need it until the mid 80s. On the east coast I needed it if it hit over 70.
The shade actually makes a noticeable difference. In a humid climate, shade hardly makes a difference.
Fewer trees and the trees that are here look different.
It gets a lot cooler at night.
My towels dry a lot faster between uses.
Strange thing: my skin actually prefers the drier climate. Maybe it could be that I’m sweating less?
GrouchyBirthday8470@reddit
We moved from Ohio to Nevada and it was bonkers to me.
— The rain smelled weird. I personally thought it smelled gross, but my husband said that is just how desert rain smells. It didn’t have that green, decay, earthy scent… I kept telling him it smelled like body odor. — I could not keep brown sugar moist to save my life. — “But it’s a dry heat” does not mean a thing when temps reach 120+. — The bugs were not like I was used too… I wasn’t constantly swatting away gnats or mosquitoes or other flying nuisances that you find in humid environments. — We had no grass in our yard. Hardly anyone did. Some people had that fake astroturf, but a lot of people had stone or pavers. — We treated summer like a Midwest winter. It was our indoor season. It was hot at 5am and hot at midnight. It was just always hot. — I am a good baker. I struggled so much with my baking in the desert and with the elevation. Nothing rose the same way or baked for the time I expected. — We did not have access to a zoo… like the typical zoo you think of in the Midwest and east… wasn’t a thing where we lived or anywhere within driving distance. Maybe that was just the area we lived, I don’t know. — Maybe not unexpected, but it was shocking to me… I could smell smoke from the wildfires and sometimes the air kind of got hazy from it too… and we weren’t really anywhere close to them. — I also thought the temperatures felt different out there. 80 in a humid place is sticky and uncomfortable, but 80 in the desert was beautiful. — We tracked our water usage which was new to me. I grew up in a place where there were times of the year the ground was so waterlogged that you didn’t want to step on the grass… no one worried about water usage. — There was a monsoon season which just struck me funny. Never would have thought the desert had a monsoon season. Also… it would flood kind of easily when it rained “a lot.” — It was so brown. Soooo brown.
I can’t remember anything else off the top of my head, but it was like a different world. I could not wait to be back in the Midwest, but there are some great things about the desert.
BookLuvr7@reddit
I've lived in one of the street dryest states at around 4,300 feet (1,300 meters) above sea level for the past 8 years it so.
The first thing I noticed is the sun is INTENSE. You know that feeling when you're sitting in the sun and your skin gets uncomfortable after a while? That happens much more quickly here, partly from elevation but also from dryness. The risk of getting dark patches on the skin is higher bc of it too.
The pores on your skin adjust to being dry so much that visiting a more humid place feels sticky at first. Trying to breathe outside when it's so dry can make your lungs ache, especially in winter. Humidifiers in winter are essential.
Watering plants needs to happen twice as often especially in summer. You can water outside, walk 15 feet, and the area where you started will be dry to the touch within a few minutes.
The rain is different - it's so dry, it may not reach the ground. If it does, it may just be a few speckles on the sidewalk. Then occasionally you get a deluge that causes a risk of landslides or flooding.
Thanks to the elevation, water boils faster. So much faster that it may never get to proper boiling temperature without boiling over. Things that cook right away like making caramel and waiting for the hot sugar to turn brown take 45 minutes instead of 15 here. I once made people toffee for Christmas and it took so long at first I was afraid I'd screwed up the recipe. It turned out I just needed to be patient.
Ordinary_Camel_3456@reddit
I live in Las Vegas and an interesting thing that happens in a desert climate is a lot of static electricity. You get little zaps and get used to it. Most frequently at grocery stores
kstravlr12@reddit
With no/rare wind and with such an arid climate without a ton of insects, it’s incredibly quiet.
AZJHawk@reddit
Cars never rust, which is nice. When I first moved to Arizona, I was always thirsty. In summer, you park in shade no matter how much further you have to walk.
Express_Barnacle_174@reddit
I have not lived in such an area, but a coworker moved to the midwest from Albuquerque, and he mentioned how you pretty much have to constantly drink water. Even if it's not extremely hot out, like during the winter, you just drink water constantly due to the complete lack of humidity. All the time.
Imightbeafanofthis@reddit
Sinusitis is more of an issue. Keep a nasal spray in the medicine chest to minimize it.
christine-bitg@reddit
You have to drink a LOT of water. Start drinking before you feel thirsty. Monitor your urine, and if the color is dark, you're not drinking enough water.
If you're not generating urine, that's even worse.
I had a few days in the Sahara Desert at an oil field. Every day, they would put a two liter bottle of water AND a two liter bottle of orange soda in the room. You were expected to drink both of them every day.
tibearius1123@reddit
Eyes are dry, skin is dry, hard to hydrate.
Cars don't rust.
Dust storms will cause you to sneeze mud boogers.
The shade is actually significantly cooler than it is in humid climates.
Wind is murder, like a blow dryer to the face.
xx-rapunzel-xx@reddit
the farthest west i’ve ever been was las vegas and part of me is always like “wooooo red f-ing rocks!” b/c there’s nothing like that at home. i think it’s a cool atmosphere and i’m envious of my friend who lives in scottsdale who sees it all the time.
honestly, they always say it’s dry heat but i just don’t feel much of a difference. hot is hot. i like warm weather a lot, but dang, i wonder how people live in the southwest with these temps.
other than that, not really sure.
defective_toaster@reddit
When getting out of a pool, you can get very very cold quickly if there is a slight breeze.
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
Might have changed, but homes don't have air conditioners like humid climates. Instead, they have swamp coolers. Also you need more water. Sand gets in everything. Air filters need to be changed more often, and seals around doors and windows need to be cleaned more often. As sand will build up until it starts getting in the house. More ground based spiders, brown recluse spiders seem toove the desert. Keep black light handy if you walk outside at night, scorpions glow under them. Deserts get a lot colder at night. In a normal environment, the day/night cycle might see 20-25 degree temp shift, but in the desert, 40-degree shifts are not uncommon. Zeroscaping is a thing. Yards are just rocks instead of grass. Roadrunner birds love standing on roofs.
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Lots of good info there, thank you! We don't really have AC here either tbh (Ireland).
So you mean if it rained on you, it could actually make your clothes dirty, not just wet? Interesting
Cinisajoy2@reddit
Yes. There are days the air is literally brown.
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
Albuquerque was horrible for it
Cinisajoy2@reddit
I wasn't fond of their blizzards either. Funny think about Albuquerque, where you lived made a difference. Juan Tabo and Lomas wasn't near as bad as down in the central part.
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
I'd hit the car wash on Montgomery, trying to get my baby clean to go yell at all the hot chicks. It would sprinkle immediately, ruining my clean black truck
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
I had a black truck and if it sprinkled, my truck was brown. On an aside, I LOVE Ireland. I've done the Dublin tour(cliffs, Guinness and Jameson), then I've spent 20~ days in galway, done the ring of Kerry, and spent some time on Inishmore with the wild cliffs.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
Most houses at least in the Permian Basin have central heat and air. HVAC is one of the major industries. Just off the top of my head, I can think of 6 companies that do residential. I am sure there are more. Now the funny thing is I do have a swamp cooler. My grandmother didn't want central heat and air. Both her son in laws were in the air conditioning business. As were at least 3 other brothers and brother in laws and another one had a sheet metal shop and did duct work.
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
I lived in abq back 02-07 amd newer builds were getting hvac, but older homes all had swamp coolers on a roof. Fun fact, if you put tuna juice and an egg in the sun and then pour them in a swamp cooler, the house will smell terrible.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
I lived there in 1986-87. I don't remember what our apartment had. I know it wasn't a swamp cooler.
Chica3@reddit
We have air conditioners. My house (Phoenix) has 2 of them.
Swamp coolers really aren't very effective when the temps are over 100.
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
Yeah I lived in ABQ for 4.5 years, new builds were getting central heat and air, but older houses were all swamp coolers.
Chica3@reddit
Some of the older PHX houses have both. They run the swamp cooler for as long as it's effective, and then switch to A/C.
Also here in AZ, when monsoon season hits, the humidity rises a lot, making swamp coolers very unhelpful.
Thund3rCh1k3n@reddit
Yeah, I lived there 20 years ago, I figured it had probably changed.
GOTaSMALL1@reddit
After you get used to it… even 50% humidity on a warm day elsewhere is just oppressive.
Places that are 90+ percent… I don’t understand how you do it.
110 is hot. Drink water, stay in the shade… not a problem.
akgt94@reddit
I got allergies from dust.
The low humidity is really nice. I'm a heavy sweater. But wear synthetic fabrics and sweat evaporates faster than it can soak into your clothes. I spent a lot more time outdoors, hiking, biking, etc. Lack of rain means you have a lot more outdoor weekends, too.
Dust storms were weird. Nice and comfortable with your windows open, then you can't see across the room. Dusted and vacuumed more than when I was in a wet climate.
Vesper2000@reddit
The dust is what gets me. Extremely fine and gets everywhere - shoes, eyes, hair, lungs…
ThePurityPixel@reddit
Parts of my car melted off while I was living in Phoenix
Hotwheels303@reddit
From the east coast initially and now live in the high desert in Colorado. The sun being out makes way more of a difference than temperature. Not sure if it’s because of the altitude or dryness but you can be in a t shirt on a40° winter day with the sun out and strong
Listen2Wolff@reddit
No grass.
Didn't take long to get dry coming out of the shower.
Not a lot of green.
It wasn't as hot as St. Croix.
Interesting_Neck609@reddit
I live at 8k feet, in a desert.
You need a lot of water, and you cant just start a fire whenever. But you dont have to worry about rain, or water based rust.
purplechunkymonkey@reddit
We visited Vegas a several years ago. It was so hot during the day that I could not stay hydrated. It was cold enough to need a jacket after the sun went down. I live in Florida. The dry heat was just bad.
r2k398@reddit
Just from weeklong trips to west Texas or Las Vegas, I can tell you that my skin and lips were dry AF when I got home.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
And now you know why every convenience store sells water. Kent Kwiks are cheapest.
RobinFarmwoman@reddit
The number of times I change my clothing in a given day can be pretty insane because of the temperature extremes. Sweats and wool socks and a jacket to do morning chores, peel off a layer by breakfast time, change into a light dress or shorts for midday and afternoon when it's hot, then jeans and a long sleeved shirt for when it gets breezy in the evening.
Iwentforalongwalk@reddit
Your skin looks like alligator skin.
ThisLucidKate@reddit
I don’t clip shut my cereal like my grandmother in Washington state used to. I just roll the bag and close the top.
DJPaige01@reddit
Although I've never lived in the desert, I visited Las Vegas once during the last week of May. It was so dry that my feet cracked open. The only time that ever happened to me before was in August of 2001 when I was in Cairo. After living in Virginia my entire life, I think my skin and body are accustomed to the humidity.
saginator5000@reddit
Assuming a hot desert (i.e. Phoenix) climate, summer culture and winter culture are reversed. When the rest of the country goes indoors for the cold weather, we get outside. This does not really apply to colder deserts like Reno or Albuquerque.
needsmorequeso@reddit
Coming to NM from TX, I am so excited not to be on a “quick, it’s winter! Run outside before it gets too hot again in a couple of weeks!” climate.
Baebarri@reddit
A puddle of water on the floor is gone by morning.
Clothes line-dry really quickly.
Need dry breadcrumbs? Leave bread slices out one night.
Car tires, hoses, etc get dry rot.
Swamp coolers provide moisture in the summer but a humidifier is a godsend in the winter.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
TL:DR. The desert would just as soon attack you as look at you. Sincerely, Your Texas desert rat.
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Hehe nice and succint :)
haus11@reddit
I spent 15 months living a desert, not by choice. You'll get used to the heat to a point. I remember walking outside at like 3am thinking its a bit chilly, I should put on the long sleeve t-shirt, then walking by a thermometer and it was 90. However, metal doesnt climatize and touching anything that spent the day outside without gloves on was a bad idea. I had a set a flight gloves with me at all times because of that.
CollectionStraight2@reddit (OP)
Oh yeah that's a good tip, it would never occur to me to avoid touching metal but that sounds that it could hurt!!
SubstantialPressure3@reddit
A need for moisturizer and conditioner. Needing to drink more water.
The temperature difference when the sun goes down.
banmeharderdaddy42@reddit
It takes a few years to adjust to the complete lack of humidity. You have to hydrate like a marathon runner.
boarhowl@reddit
Dry lips, nose bleeds.
I notice the bread never molds.
The sun feels like it burns your skin more.
I can breathe better, at least in the desert areas with less grass.
buried_lede@reddit
It’s much cooler in the shade and at night and a rainstorm actually cools everything off. This is due to less humidity and thinner atmosphere
qu33nof5pad35@reddit
I could dry a comforter outside for an hour or so and it would be dry af. No need for a dryer.
Cinisajoy2@reddit
The temperature swings from day to night. Deserts do get super cold in the winter. Some foods keep better in the refrigerator like potatoes, tomatoes and butter. A little water will cause floods. Some cities send out flood maps every year. Sand gets in everything. Grassburrs and goatheads are prevalent. Most native plants can and will attack you. Always watch your step. Insects, snakes and plants will get you. Also dust storms are prevalent. And if you go in an area where the natural foliage has been stripped, you can be in for several miles of 0 visibility if the wind is kicking. I am looking at you 158 between Midland and Garden City. Your skin will be drier. When thunderstorms come along, they can be vicious.
frizzkid@reddit
The dry air sucks the moisture from your body. I’m prone to slightly dry skin - when visiting anywhere else with even the slightest humidity, my skin is totally fine. But at home my hands will literally crack and bleed if I don’t supply them with hand lotion multiple times a day, every day. Not from rough work or anything. And I live in a semi-arid desert in Colorado, not even what most would call a “real” desert.
joepierson123@reddit
No rust on cars
MrLongWalk@reddit
I’ve never lived more than a mile from a river and except for Copenhagen mostly in pretty heavy tree cover
PavicaMalic@reddit
Driving in dust/sand storms, or rather, pulling over and waiting one out.
Mistyam@reddit
I live in the Midwest and a lot of times people will complain about the dreary winter months, primarily February and March, however friends that have moved to and from desert climates will complain about not being able to be outside in the summer comfortably and how brown everything is year-round.
Internal_Kangaroo570@reddit
You go through a lot of chapstick
PorcelainPunisher1@reddit
Chapstick and hand lotion.
kippersforbreakfast@reddit
The best parking spots are the ones in the shade rather than the closest ones. I always had air conditioning at home everywhere from Hawaii to Massachusetts, but did not have it in New Mexico - just a swamp cooler. There are toads that live underground and emerge in enormous numbers when there is sufficient rain, which only occured once in the five years I lived there.