Is it normal for jeeps to break down a lot?
Posted by grandmascookingg@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 346 comments
I've had my 2018 jeep wrangler for 7 years, and i am just now having problems. It has close to 100k miles and have never had a problem with this vehicle.
I had to tow it for the first time yesterday and the guy asked the question of why on earth i still have this thing. I looked at him bewildered and said this is the first time I've had an issue and told him it's the best car I've ever owned.
He laughed in my face and said just wait it gets worse. Did I just get extremely lucky all these years? Should I expect things to go wrong in the future?
AtheistET@reddit
Si!
SignificantTransient@reddit
Jeep is the number 1 brand that is expected to need major repairs before hitting 100k
theeaglejax@reddit
Is this a serious question? 6-8 year old toy that's working with an 8yr+ design with 100k on it and the op is bitching that they just now had a problem with a jeep? Either this is karma farming or the op is a fucking moron that just learned to day what the internet is.
Bi-mwm-47@reddit
You know how Fords are Found On Road Dead or Fix Or Repair Daily ?
Well, Jeeps are Just Empty Every Pocket.
MentalAd2843@reddit
I had a coworker at my previous job who had a Jeep that he put more money into than he'd bought it for. When he got married his wife looked at the numbers and said "we are getting rid of this piece to junk!"
No-Activity3547@reddit
No shite. Prepare your checkbook for more maintenance repairs.
cormack_gv@reddit
Jeeps have a reputation for breaking down a lot.
tylerderped@reddit
Why tho? Is it poor tolerances? Manufacturing defects? Poor engineering? If so, how?
I just don’t understand how a vehicle in 2025 can be so unreliable, like, we’ve pretty much mastered the art of internal combustion. We’ve mastered the art of wiring. We’re mastered the art of integrated circuits. We’ve mastered the art of software. We’ve mastered the art of machining.
What are brands like Jeep and Land Rover doing that’s causing such high rates of failure?
Frupulous_cupcakes@reddit
Because they want to make profits. So they use the cheapest quality parts. And they definitely aren’t making cars the most reliable they can because then you’d never buy a car again.
5hallowbutdeep@reddit
Putting money on marketing than engineering, most American car companies are like this.
duuchu@reddit
I’ve never heard of any reason to buy an American car outside of the fact that it’s American
tylerderped@reddit
The Mustang is still a great deal. What other car makes 500hp, is reliable, cheap to maintain, and even somewhat practical for under $50,000?
duuchu@reddit
It’s not cheap, you pay up the ass in insurance
tylerderped@reddit
I didn’t say it was cheap, I said it was a great deal.
And no one buys a Mustang to shred the mountain.
duuchu@reddit
And no road is an actual straight line
rangeDSP@reddit
it's not like pony cars don't come with steering wheels. with how straight american highways are, just overtaking is plenty fun for $15k.
the miata/gt86 are on the other side of the spectrum, low power but very fun
REDACTED3560@reddit
Jeep is a part of Stellantis which is the merger of French and Italian automakers. It’s about as American as Champagne at this point. European automakers ultimately call the shots, and every brand under the Stellantis umbrella is shit.
gimmedatgorbage@reddit
Because, most importantly, they have mastered the art of not giving a fuck about making a good vehicle.
V8-6-4@reddit
Almost every car is made so that it just barely runs its expected lifetime without too many issues. You have to put in real money to find a car which is built using anything more than just barely adequate parts. Some exotic supercar may have parts that are designed for the sake of quality.
RadicalSnowdude@reddit
Some car companies care a lot about reliability so it’s less likely that a car will goes wrong. And others just don’t.
1PistnRng2RuleThmAll@reddit
It used to be that if you wanted a lot of capability/a convertible 4x4 then Jeep was your only option. And people wanted that badly enough that they would overlook a lot.
Now there is a bit more competition, but you can’t suddenly make your product reliable over night.
duuchu@reddit
For jeep or other stellatis products, it’s cheap everything. Cheap labor, cheap parts, cheap engineering, bad quality control, etc. it’s a dying company squeezing the last drops of name brand cars
Electronic-Pear3312@reddit
Maybe I’m wrong, but don’t all vehicles have an issue at some point. Maybe I just feel like it’s normal life because I also have a Jeep?
finalrendition@reddit
Sure. Jeeps have problems every 30k miles, while Toyotas have problems every 300k miles. Not exactly comparable.
Jjmills101@reddit
I think you’re overstating how reliable most modern Toyotas are. It’s more like 130-150k if you take care of it. The bigger thing here is that when Toyotas and Hondas eventually do have a problem or two, you drive them to a mechanic, they fix it and you’re on your way. When a jeep has an issue you are stuck on the side of the road waiting for a tow
finalrendition@reddit
Yeah, I'm exaggerating, but my point still stands. You do make an excellent point. It's not just about the quantity of issues, but also the severity.
cantaloupeburner@reddit
Yall dick eat Toyota
Floppie7th@reddit
I mean, it's kind of directly comparable. 30k is a much smaller number than 300k
No_School765@reddit
And easily divisible by 10.
Natural_Ad_7183@reddit
Both of those numbers are easily divisible by 10
Sadurn@reddit
I had a buddy that drove a jeep in college and it seemingly was broken every other weekend. Dude had the jeep of theseus by the time he got his degree
exsertclaw@reddit
Everything has problems but there's levels of engineering and care that go into each vehicle that determine if it's scrapped at its first major failure or shipped to Africa for an eternity of repairability.
Jeeps are shit. That used to be the novelty of em and then they made them 80k. Stellantis will be the first of the big 3 to shut it's doors if they don't change it's course.
Jjmills101@reddit
It feels like Stellantis has been teetering on bankruptcy about as long as I can remember
exsertclaw@reddit
It's certainly true. Following closely now though these next 3 years will be crucial for their long term relevancy. The EV transition has been disastrous for them. One foot in one foot out means nobody is happy. The 4XE jeep is the only one that's sorta found a market. My boomer take on it would be why would I ever want an unrepairable American electric offroader so.... crucial moment. Stellantis had 100 years to perfect like one motor. They sold both sports cars and trucks around it. I do not think they'll make the boat on EVs.
Rip the Ramcharger too.
SuperEdgyEdgeLord@reddit
They do, but it's moreso when, and what kind of problems arise for the vehicle. People want a car that they don't need to worry about it so much
So Toyota and Honda are pretty well known for their reliability over a long period.of.time.
cormack_gv@reddit
Statistically, some have more than others. Part of reputation is that, and part is, as another poster noted, group think. I guess the question is, "how much more reliable is brand/model/year A than brand/model/year B?"
Even "reliable" is squishy. Formally, it means infrequency of failure. But not all failures are created equal.
funktonik@reddit
Stockholm syndrome
Kent89052@reddit
Certainly with the echo chamber that is reddit
Boo-bot-not@reddit
And the jeep community forums. They acknowledge and wear it like a badge. It’s a jeep thing.
dsdvbguutres@reddit
Playing life in hard mode by choice gives them bragging rights, I guess.
69lms@reddit
Good luck. I will never buy a jeep again.
Battlecat3714@reddit
My 2016 JGC Laredo 3.6l Pentastar V6 ran beautifully for the first 5yrs. I found myself getting a little cocky about it bragging about how I really got lucky finding a ‘diamond in the rough’ here & there…then Jeep enters the chat making sure to put my ass right back in its place 😭
Since Dec 2024 it just won’t stop breaking down. I fix whatever’s wrong & 1-2 weeks later it breaks down again. Things I’ve replaced since:
Oil cooler/housing, radiator, thermostat, water pump, coolant reservoir/cap, some 13 flushes, EGR cooler hose, purge valve canister, fuel injector, 2 VVL solenoids, all 4 camshaft phaser actuators, hvac blower motor & resistor, & fuse F13.
It has currently been sitting for 3 months broken down yet again due to another failed fuel injector (that is of course on the difficult side; bank 1). It has taken me a few paychecks to acquire all new spark plugs, coil packs, gaskets & fuel injectors because I might as well replace em all since it’s such a tedious job tearing it down to access the bad fuel injector anyways. 😭
Spent a couple hours getting it tore down yesterday before it started pouring rain, so just waiting until tomorrow to take the plenum off & tackle the task at hand since it’s raining today w/ an alleged forecast of no rain Mon & Tues 🤞🏻
Battlecat3714@reddit
Yep
Doctorpauline@reddit
They have acronyms for it like, just expect every problem, just empty every pocket, just expect electrical problems, just eat every penny, jeeps erase every penny. The list goes on
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
Insane. I've barely had to put any money in this thing until now. But these comments help me determine that I should switch to a different vehicle
bonestamp@reddit
What problem did you have?
K9WorkingDog@reddit
If reliability is a concern, sure. These are recreational vehicles though, and they have no competition
__slamallama__@reddit
No competition? Like how? Bronco, Tacoma, hell even an ineos is competition to Jeep.
The things is that Jeep owners do not see it that way because they don't want an off-road vehicle, they want a Jeep which really just speaks to their total focus on the brand and marketing rather than the actual product.
K9WorkingDog@reddit
The Bronco and Tacoma are missing a solid front axle, and the Grenadier is a whole other market segment
__slamallama__@reddit
Why should someone care about a solid front axle? If they are just as capable at doing the tasks who cares what solution they built? Frankly bragging about solid axles is wild these days given that also makes them terrible at... Ya know, being cars on the road
K9WorkingDog@reddit
... for offroading. What do you think Jeeps are for?
__slamallama__@reddit
So just to be clear you're saying that a bronco is not a capable off road car?
Also, 90% of jeeps sold never leave the pavement. So you're kinda proving my point on most Jeep owners caring only about the marketing for me
K9WorkingDog@reddit
It's not as capable as a jeep.
You're being a redditor right now, most people with Wranglers take them on trails
__slamallama__@reddit
Don't take my word for it. 85-90% of Wrangler owners never take the cars off road per jeeps head of design.
https://www.powernationtv.com/post/what-percent-of-jeep-owners-actually-use-them-for-off-roading
K9WorkingDog@reddit
I won't take that word for it either.
Redditors adore telling people they don't need vehicles with X, Y, and Z capability. I bet you think I don't need my Tundra too
__slamallama__@reddit
Wait you don't think that the head of design at a car company has any idea how good customers use their cars? You genuinely believe that you know better?
The confidence, while wildly misplaced, is truly impressive.
Also I don't know you or have any idea about your needs specifically. I am speaking generally about Jeep owners who buy the car based on marketing.
This is like people complaining that the new m5 will be terrible on a racetrack. Sure, it may be. But for 90% of buyers that's not an issue because they will never use it that way
K9WorkingDog@reddit
Why do you think people should make a list of what a car doesn't do when they're shopping?
__slamallama__@reddit
Lol alright if you're just going to rhetorical question land I'm good on continuing this discussion.
If you think you know better than Jeep executives then either you're truly in a place of either extreme knowledge or extreme ignorance.
XtraChrisP@reddit
Every once in a while, they accidentally make an anomaly. I had a friend with a 1st Gen Liberty that made it to 350k miles without any of the issues that plagued the early Liberty's other than the shitty mileage.
__slamallama__@reddit
Holy shit that has to be some kind of record.
I once saw a compass with 100k on it - it was like seeing a unicorn. A dilapidated, real grungy and squeaky unicorn with an exhaust leak
Doctorpauline@reddit
Honestly these vehicles will start to break down the closer you get to 100k,only few people own them for the looks and the off roading. You'll likely have a failed transmission soon electrical gremlins will start popping up. I would sell it asap tbh
CockroachVarious2761@reddit
actually - in 2018 Jeep started to use the 8-speed automatic which is arguably the best automatic in any vehicle and should be easily capable of 200,000 miles.
__slamallama__@reddit
Isn't it just the same zf unit that is in like, nearly every other car? It's not a special trans
The real problem with jeeps is... Everything else
tjdean01@reddit
If it's only capable of 200,000 mi then it's not even close to the best transmission in any vehicle.
gstringstrangler@reddit
ZF8HP is one of the best transmissions out there right now, rated for over 700hp
CockroachVarious2761@reddit
Very few automatics in passenger cars/light trucks will go 200,000 miles without needing repair; I'm sure it happens but by and large not many specific transmissions are that reliable that consistently.
Thuraash@reddit
I have a 200K mile Camry and a 240K mile Corolla in the family driveways right now. Both on original transmissions. Never had the transmission serviced at all, much less broken down. And this is consistent with their reputation; it would have been surprising if they did break down.
It's incredible how people convince themselves that the way shitty companies do things is just how things have to be.
tjdean01@reddit
I don't know about the new ones over the past few years but if you take any pickup truck from 2015 it could easily hit 200,000 if u do it within 10 years without needing any maintenance except for changing the fluid. Also nearly every Toyota or Honda could make it to 200,000 without issue provided you do it all within about 10 years. Even the CVTs. Most American and Korean cars could make it that much also if you did it quickly. Those, however, I agree, would be at the end of their life even if they did make it to 200k.
CockroachVarious2761@reddit
Only in the last few years will you find CVTs that go much past 100,000 miles consistently without needing repaired/replaced.
We'll have to agree to disagree. Also keep in mind I said "easily.." meaning you shouldn't have any problems getting 200,000+.
SuchTarget2782@reddit
JATCO CVTs are garbage, but Toyota designed their own. Any of their CVTs (Prius, Corolla Hybrid, etc) from the last 20 years will do 300k no sweat.
Cadet_Stimpy@reddit
I’m driving a 2012 Tacoma with 230k miles on the original transmission. Fluid was replaced for the first time at 225k miles.
Otherwise_Chemical86@reddit
Na not nearly maybe 100000
stonewall028@reddit
200k should be the bare minimum for a transmission, really solid ones will go for 500k-1m
CockroachVarious2761@reddit
As I said "easily" - but really not many automatics will go 500K in a passenger car or light truck without needing repairs.
Otherwise_Chemical86@reddit
The 90s jeeps,Cherokee were great bullet proof. I have a 2014 jeep have nothing but problems only 40000
amazonmakesmebroke@reddit
My '14 has almost 200k miles with few jssues
SuchTarget2782@reddit
Very few vehicles are designed to last past 150k anyway.
By which I mean, the parts that wear out over time, from spark plugs to alternators to control arms, are spec’d (based on stuff like metal fatigue, strength, expected wear, etc.) to have an average lifespan/wear life of ~150k miles.
Doesn’t mean every part breaks at once, doesn’t mean some won’t last a lot longer even, but it means that a lot of things go around the same time. So many things that many (most?) owners give up and buy a new car.
Different brands and models are designed with different goal lifetimes in mind. Manufacturers don’t usually say the quiet part out loud, but observationally it seems like Stellantis products in general are ~100k mile vehicles. They aren’t alone in that. Rental car fleets are notorious for being made up of cars like this. (Nissans, Chevy Malibus, etc.)
Now, there’s something to be said for not having a car payment. If you’re willing to spend money and time replacing those bits, it’s cheaper than getting a new car. But, if the car is a rusted out mess you might not want to spend that money, and Chryslers do tend to rust pretty quick. Good rust resistance is expensive.
Also, solid “rubber” undercoating traps moisture and makes rust worse (you just can’t see it.) Use the spray film stuff instead and apply/reapply it religiously.
MeowItAll@reddit
All cars, whether good or bad, should really last to 100k miles. Obviously there are exceptions. But the true difference between more or less reliable cars is how they are past that 100k mark usually.
Putrid-Function5666@reddit
You went 100k in a Jeep with no real problems? Buy a Lottery ticket, you are on a roll.
Ziazan@reddit
There are always going to be ones that dont have much if any issue for longer than usual. Just within that brand, a far higher percentage of vehicles than usual will have issues.
Sporadicali@reddit
Happy cake day
Elie_X@reddit
Did you do any research before buying your Jeep?
Careless-Trick-5117@reddit
Most Wrangler owners don’t. Or they just don’t care. Anyone who looks past the branding knows that these are just fundamentally awful in every way lol
doc_55lk@reddit
Most car* owners don't.
7eregrine@reddit
They do have a bad rep but you can absolutely get a reliable one. I'd keep it.
Danielsan-1209@reddit
And like every car cliche it’s not really true. It depends on the model, the motor, the year…
Doctorpauline@reddit
That's true but I haven't heard good things in a while from jeep or stellantis. Car companies get their cliche for a reason. Kia may have fixed their issue but they will still be known for a while for being easy to steal. Jeep has to show us most not some of their vehicles will last past 200kwith little maintenance for anyone to consider them reliable.
CockroachVarious2761@reddit
I'd buy a Jeep/FCA before I'd buy a Kia!!!!
Doctorpauline@reddit
Thanks for the input? I never said either was a better choice lol just comparing how hard it is for a company to recover from a stigma
Guavakoala@reddit
That’s funny. I actually never heard any of these.
KennyGaming@reddit
Yes
8grams@reddit
It's a Jeep things
shaggyinascooby@reddit
Yup
RelevantMarket8771@reddit
It’s pretty much all over the internet on car forums that Jeeps are not very reliable. Certain years worse than other and certain models better than others, but reliability and Jeep usually aren’t found in the same sentence. I would definitely take a Wrangler though over a Compass or a Renegade, for example. A Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 Hemi isn’t a terrible choice either if I wanted to roll the dice.
TheGreatJabronimus@reddit
Yes many don’t know this, but Jeep is acronym that stands for Just, Empty, Each, Pocket.
MeepMeeps88@reddit
Jeeps are trash, consistently scoring in the bottom 10 of ALL cars reviewed by Consumer Reports in satisfaction and reliability.
biggranny000@reddit
Imo all cars that hit 100k are going to need some work. I don't think Chryslers are reliable in general either. The jeep wranglers are a bit better. At 100k some cars need suspension work, brakes, spark plugs, injectors, coils, etc.
Skysr70@reddit
when's the last time you saw an old jeep on the road
Thejanitor64@reddit
Define old. I see 90s jeeps everywhere. Maybe one of the most common vehicles from that era, actually.
Skysr70@reddit
I'd classify 90's as old. But me, I don't ever see them that old. Closest I saw was a jeep cherokee that my brother bought for cheap, and fixed up himself. spoiler: it did not stay fixed for long.
Psikosocial@reddit
The 90’s Cherokee and wranglers are considered some of the most reliable cars ever made.
I’m assuming you’re very young if you don’t remember or know how reliable those 90’s Cherokees are.
Skysr70@reddit
Not super young but wasn't of driving age in the 90's. I'm just saying what I've seen. Only new jeeps on the road and nobody who knows cars that I talk to thinks they're any count
OurAngryBadger@reddit
Just Empty Every Pocket, amirite?
Still better than Fix Or Repair Daily.
Whack-a-Moole@reddit
It's pretty normal for cars to break down after the warranty expires. Stellantis and Korean brands especially.
harryhend3rson@reddit
German brands especially especially.
SLOspeed@reddit
Disagree. I've had several BMWs with over 200,000 miles on them and they were the most reliable cars I've ever owned.
harryhend3rson@reddit
100%. I'm definitely talking about modern German.
German and Japanese stuff pre-1999 was the best.
SLOspeed@reddit
Toyota grew WAY too quickly in the late 90s and 2000s. They pretty much doubled the company's size. Bringing on that many new people diluted the company's culture and expertise to the point where... they were just another average car company. Just look at almost everything they introduced after 2004 or so. The same exact thing happened at BMW with the Mini/Rover/Rolls Royce acquisitions and the rollout of SUVs.
They both tried to be everything to everyone and lost their core identity. When the first priority is making more profit by selling lots of cars to soccer moms, all the cars end up being different flavors of soccer mom taxis.
HotmailsInYourArea@reddit
My e90 was stout, can’t speak for anything newer
Impressive_East_4187@reddit
Ding ding, cars from the 90s and early 00s are the peak of automotive quality.
SLOspeed@reddit
For some reason, it hasn’t occurred to anyone that making cars SMALLER would improve mileage. Then they wouldn’t NEED all the gimmicky shit
Whack-a-Moole@reddit
It definitely has, but that's not enough - the regulations for smaller cars are even stricter, meaning tiny cars have to be even more expensive to pack them full of enough gimmicks to be legal.
SLOspeed@reddit
If that were true, the Miata and BRZ wouldn't exist with a base price around 30k. Cheap by today's standards.
GreenAccident3004@reddit
Disagree. Wife had a '09 Hyundai Sonata that she put 210k miles on with routine mx. Sold it to a neighbor who put over another 100k miles on before an encounter with a Ford pickup.
It only had wear marks in the seats from kids car seats being strapped in, that was it.
052801@reddit
I will never feel bad for ppl who get bad car brands without doing their research.
Healthy-Brilliant549@reddit
It is now.
pushrod427@reddit
Some vehicles are more maintenance required than others. Drive/owner needs to be mechanically inclined. Had a ‘79 Silver Anniversary CJ-5, had the usual rear main seal leak. Water pump went out once. Bought it used/wrecked and transfer case mounting bolts were loose, case shifted and Jeep was down. I did nothing about the rear main, it was just a few drops. I replaced water pump, on the road the next day. Jacked up transfer case and put it back in place, on the road later that day. My sister had a 2016 Wrangler, her rear differential had a catastrophic failure(dealership diagnosis) pulling away from a red light. Had it towed to dealership, bill was $1800 which dealership covered. She took it that week and traded it in on another vehicle. I own a ‘97 TJ now, (4.0L/5-speed) I’ve already replaced the battery(6 years old), old sending unit(may have been trash that clogged it up), checked all my grounds(replaced battery terminal ends), and need to replace catalytic converter(check engine light on), but I’m doing all that myself so it’s not too costly. I have a ‘98 Chevy 1500, an ‘83 Mercedes 300D, a 2022 Subaru Outback, and a 2002 Softail Deuce. Point is if one breaks down I drive another and fix what’s down. Granted I won’t be able to do major stuff but saving on all the little(?) things will help me when a major thing pops up. Dealerships are not the end all/be all for work being done on your vehicles. Ask around for a dependable/reliable local shop. They’ll be happy to work on your vehicles and you’ll save a little.
N_ModeVN@reddit
LOL
Dangerous_Focus453@reddit
The 3.6 engine which the Jeep used in most of its products is not great. Sure many will get 100k or a bit more out of them but they have many issues most notably the Pentastar tick. If ignored it will destroy the cams. ALL Jeeps with that engine will get it, it’s just a matter of when. My gladiator which had the upgraded PUG pentastar had it happen at 6k miles. I traded it in rather than trying to deal with warranty.
ka2toc@reddit
Yes. The joke is that Toyotas also function as Jeep recovery vehicles.
Zestyclose-Cap1829@reddit
The Stellantis-built jeeps are pretty terrible. If you off-road a lot it might be worth it to you to keep it but if it's just a daily driver offload it on some sucker as soon as you can.
OkPossession2653@reddit
Yes
Alfie_Solomons88@reddit
Jeep is a no but brand.
half_ton_tomato@reddit
The new ones are unreliable shit boxes. One of the most famous American brand names is now regarded as junk.
After-Ad874@reddit
Does a bear shit in the woods. Yes they are junk.
RFGuy_KCCO@reddit
Anything made by Stellantis is known to break down regularly. Hell, I am fairly sure they come off the assembly line with multiple issues.
hillbillyjogger_3124@reddit
Yes.
Canelosaurio@reddit
It's a Jeep thing
FSM-Minister-007@reddit
I had a nightmare last night …… in the dream, I bought a Jeep.
CrimeBot3000@reddit
Yes.
ThePurch@reddit
YES
GreenAccident3004@reddit
YES. Jeeps are notorious for breaking down. Even my 1st Jeep, a 1981 CJ5 with the Renegade package... I ordered it thru AFES overseas for delivery to the port on the east coast. Took 30 minutes for paperwork & I was on my way... or was I ?
Broke down in Ohio, and had to have it towed to nearest dealership... at 3am, for a wiring short that took out almost every wire in the vehicle. Waited till dealership opened, and waited till they installed new harnesses from end to end. Glad they had the parts, but I had to pay for the tow & labor. (Welcome back from an overseas tour!).
Then, I get home to Milwaukee, and the alternator has the magic smoke come out. Pay again to have it towed to a dealership.... new alternator installed, I had to pay labor again.
Drive 300 miles to my next base & transfer case is growling... dealership replaces complete transfer case & covers labor... had to wait 3 weeks to get vehicle back as parts were not in stock.
Now, this vehicle had not even seen a dirt road, much less a trail yet.
Finally get vehicle back, and a month later I'm just driving to work at 25mph on base & BANG, CRUNCH, POW, as the brand new transfer case let's go into lots of pieces and gear lube everywhere...
Tow to dealership, and transfer case is replaced, again, and I have to pay for the to and labor this time. Viehicle is back almost a month later & I head straight to the Toyota dealership, trade it in on a brand new 1982 'yota that I put over 200K miles on without a mechanical failure.
Point being: My folks had a Jeep Cherokee that was absolutely bullet-proof for 20+ years... go figure.
FoRiZon3@reddit
Dang even way before Stellantis era
troutbum6o@reddit
I think around 81 is when they ditched the Dana 20 for something else. I’m rebuilding a Dana 20 right now and it’s hard to see what would fail aside from oil loss or just wrong assembly
Late-External3249@reddit
Anything with the 4.0 L was damn near bulletproof. Only thing that got them was rust
Fred-Mertz2728@reddit
True. Our 2006 has never had a major issue. But,it’s only got 76,500+ miles on it.
Old_Detroiter@reddit
Sorry, not true. 89 Comanche pickup. Motor good, electronics bad. Last straw was wheel bearing welded to spindle, lost brakes. Bought a Chevy Beretta after that. Total nightmare.
GreenAccident3004@reddit
Baretta/Corsica all had one major flaw in their automatic transmissions (125's). The solenoid for torque converter clutch (TCC lockup) would crap out leaving the TCC 'frozen' when you came to a stop.... either the car would stall, releasing apply pressure for the TCC, or it would drive you right thru an intersection.
Wasn't hard to fix. Jack car on only the left side. Pull left front wheel. Pull trans side cover pan. Replace solenoid for TCC. Put side cover pan back on with new gasket using permatex #2. Top up trams usually with only a quart of fluid & drive it till doomsday.
Many dealerships & trans shops would say it needed a new/rebuilt trans..... all fir only a $150.00 repair, parts & labor. I hat to think of how many I did for family, friends & neighbors. Could do them in an hour needing only a beer.
Old_Detroiter@reddit
Understood. I was a lot younger then, that car never left me stranded like the jeep did. Hope that part was clear. I was in the hills of TN when that wheel bearing went. Truckers were honking at me. I hit the brakes at an exit and the pedal went to the floor. Jeep, never again.
GreenAccident3004@reddit
Rocker arm covers liked to warp & leak oil.... and their ABS box was replaced as part of a recall. That's tho only problems I can remember with their Cherokee. Never even had to service the AC in it.
CraftsmanMan@reddit
Yes
TheOriginalJBones@reddit
Yes
Worst-Lobster@reddit
YES
dsdvbguutres@reddit
Omg yes
vicente8a@reddit
Can you elaborate?
Yeeeesssssss
jondes99@reddit
It’s a Jeep thing, OP wouldn’t understand.
hillbillyjogger_3124@reddit
True.
drinkdrinkshoesgone@reddit
Overwhelmingly normal.
breaklegjoe@reddit
You can replace "Jeeps" with "Christler products"
fastcolor03@reddit
Only you do didn’t know?
metamodern-mess@reddit
I’ve never had any issues with all of the Wranglers I’ve owned. What has gone wrong on yours so far?
rubberguru@reddit
I had 4 , two cj’s and two tj’s. All with the 6 cylinder. I think I replaced a starter, and an emissions control in total. I gave my son the last tj. He has replaced some seals and my 20yo tires. That said,don’t trust jeep because they don’t have to improve anything to sell them. They make tons of money selling them too.
CynicalLib@reddit
I thought this was satirical lol
rwv2055@reddit
Yes.
Galromir@reddit
Yes. They are literally the most notoriously garbage mainstream car brand on the earth.
Downtown-Tackle-9219@reddit
Jeep = 💩
acecoffeeco@reddit
Sell it before something major breaks. All sorts of awesome stuff started failing at 90k in my 13 GC. Electrical gremlins like you wouldn’t believe and no one can work on this thing without making it worse including myself. Each thing I fix opens up another can of worms.
KillahHills10304@reddit
Behold my mighty pentastar V6 with a plastic intake that screws into a plastic lower intake and little ports to retain water around those screw heads so you have to air hammer the intake to pieces in order to change spark plugs then spend $1000 on a new intake when you're done
TuftsofGoo@reddit
Jeeps are awful vehicles.
Toyota or Honda or their higher trims Lexus and Acura. That’s all I will ever buy.
XOM_CVX@reddit
Stopped buying Honda after they moved the production to North America
marklawr@reddit
My friend has a 2015. Broke down all the time.
XOM_CVX@reddit
no way that thing went 100k without any issues.
nbiddy398@reddit
Jeeps wranglers are toys, not daily drivers. The fact you went 7 years without any major issues is just mind blowing.
I stopped driving wranglers after my last one. You had to hit the starter with a rubber mallet every time you wanted to start it. The front 4x4 driveshaft rusted completely through (I only got to use the 4x4 like 3 times). So many other small issues.
jbird32275@reddit
Aggressive-Catch-903@reddit
I’ve owned Jeeps for more than 25 years. Grand Cherokees and Wranglers. I have had very few mechanical issues, no electrical issues. I follow the recommended maintenance schedule in the owners manual. I don’t abuse them.
My Gladiator has over 100k miles, the only issue was corrosion on the hood, which was repaired under warranty. We sold my wife’s grand Cherokee to a buddy when she bought a wrangler. He has nearly 200k miles on it, just had the first major repair, which was replacing the manifold, I think.
Maybe I have gotten “lucky” over 25 years and 10 different vehicles. /s
TheyVanishRidesAgain@reddit
Since automotive quality is largely determined by rejection criteria of parts, it is possible you got lucky and have the one with all of the "much better than required" parts. If you like the vehicle, keep it until the repair costs outweigh your reasons for keeping it.
But to answer your question, yes, it is normal for anything made by Stellantis to be trash. Just remember, the Q in Stellantis is for Quality.
Optimal_Law_4254@reddit
There is no “Q” in Stellantis! Oh wait…
Seriously though…. At some point they must have earned the reputation for ruggedness and durability. I don’t think you need to go all the way back to Willys, either.
TheyVanishRidesAgain@reddit
The last good Jeep engine was an AMC design.
calisurfer101@reddit
The last good Jeep was the TJ and the XJ. What followers is pure trash.
turbotaco23@reddit
Which says a whole lot.
DanR5224@reddit
Durable ≠ Reliable
Thejanitor64@reddit
His vehicle wasn't made my Stellantis
TheyVanishRidesAgain@reddit
Semantics
MisterMakena@reddit
Yes. It doesnt fail, to fail.
Odd_Fox5573@reddit
Yes get rid of that piece of shit and never look back
faultydatadisc@reddit
Just Empty Every Pocket
DoubleResponsible276@reddit
2018, and never had it break down either. Just had some stuff that needed to be replaced, simple maintenance but nothing major.
Khandious@reddit
2 Things a Jeep will NEVER do:
1) Drive past a Gas Station
2) Drive past a Service Garage
railworx@reddit
Make it to 100,000 miles
Ivisk@reddit
160k miles on 2019 Cherokee
Lupine_Ranger@reddit
Yes. You've had a good run. Get rid of it before it drains your wallet.
5hallowbutdeep@reddit
You just found out?
asmithfild@reddit
Lmao
Viner2024@reddit
Jeep = Turd
GundamArashi@reddit
Never owned a jeep but I know several people that have. They all wanted one for the off road capability, got rid of them for the constant issues big or small. Mostly small but they add up fast especially with the cost of labor in the shops.
shakesheadslowy@reddit
I had wrangler and then grand Cherokee for the last 13 years. Had the starter go on the wrangler and that’s the only time I needed a tow between the two. Have a brand new Tahoe now and have had more issues with it
drunk-munchkin@reddit
The short answer is "yes".. the long answer is "yessssssss"
lalo_salamancas@reddit
It happens in all pentastarc engines (v6 3.7) Needs spark plug, coils, pulleys and at 200 k kms needs camshafts replaced. For the camshaft job need to replace lifters, rockers, gaskets, intake manifolds and orings.
eggsallmfinday@reddit
Yes. Some of the most fun you can have in a car. Also an absolutely awful car. The boat of the car world.
No_Tie_9297@reddit
Mopar. Yes.
PassPuzzled@reddit
5 out of 3 cars that come in for parts are a Chrysler product
No but seriously like half of the cars that come in are chrystler. It's a very close battle between Nissans and Hyundais. It's not just old ones too. There's 22s that come in talking about they need a control arm or usually some kinda sensor. I used to always say I'd never get a new car but after being in parts sales for a year I'm tripping down on that statement.
And I would never touch a stallantis product with a 20 foot pole
tactical_sweatpants@reddit
Jeeps break down alot? Do shits bear in the woods?
MUHLBACHERS@reddit
Jeep= Just empty every pocket. Yes.
PuzzleheadedLack220@reddit
Yes
SadIdeal9019@reddit
Check out any reliability lists of auto brands in the US, and you'll see that Jeep are consistently in the bottom 1/4.
Mammoth-Bike1995@reddit
Yes, yes, and YES!
SavageObjector@reddit
Yes. They were originally designed assuming they would last no more than 2 weeks in WWII and they never updated the specs.
rock1987173@reddit
My mom bought a brand 2024 Wrangler Rubicon. Had it exactly 1 year and the transmission went out, and she had to change out the infotainment because it went out. Both happen in the first year of owning it. So it was warranty.
CharlesBoyle799@reddit
Worked with a guy who had a late-‘90s Wrangler (this was mid ‘00s). He’s the one who told me Jeep is just an acronym for Just Empty Every Pocket because of ask the repairs you’ll be doing
fliguana@reddit
My new TJ started leaking out of rear diff after 3k miles.
Dealer said it overheated because I drove at freeway speeds for more than an hour.
"Freeway speeds" was 65mph, 55 when there was headwind.
gerbilstuffer@reddit
You're fucking joking, right?
IJustWorkHere000c@reddit
…have you lived your life with your head in the sand? Why do I even ask. Obviously the answer is yes.
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
I thought this was the ask car guys subreddit? I thought it would be ok to ask a question
CVGPi@reddit
Even GAC in China couldn't save Jeep from the myriad of quality complaints.
And GAC got a reputation for being great at quality and even awarded "Zero-Defects Factory" by Toyota.
Deep-Water-@reddit
It’s pretty much their thing
981cay2s@reddit
JEEP=Just Empty Every Pocket
ThingFuture9079@reddit
Yes. Especially the ones that have been made the last 15 years or so.
serenwipiti@reddit
Yeah, I have a 2006 commander, no issues so far (more than 200,000 miles).
ThingFuture9079@reddit
That was before CDJR became part of Fiat so their cars were still decent then.
serenwipiti@reddit
^Nice
PaddyBoy1994@reddit
Yep. Well known for a LOT of electrical issues.
photonynikon@reddit
Hint... it's a FIAT
MaximumDerpification@reddit
Yeppers
Top_Cryptographer192@reddit
highflyer10123@reddit
Yes it’s normal. It’s essentially a Chrysler. Most of the time it’s the electrical system. For some reason they like to use one grounding point for a bunch of different grounding wires. They will stack the grounding wires all on top of one point. As soon as you have the tiniest bit of corrosion, that could cause an electrical problem.
cuffs98@reddit
Jeeps or Chrysler products in general aren’t known for their high quality or reliability. Jeeps main selling point is off-road capability
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
Hey guys, I know it's the internet, but I was just genuinely asking a question. I'm really thankful for all the years my jeep gave me and really didn't have any problems up until now. My jeep was really sentimental to me because I had a loved one that helped me buy it who has passed away and really wanted to keep it for as long as possible. I'm not well versed in cars and want to thank everyone who respectfully informed me on stuff I didn't know before
-Aquiles_Baeza-@reddit
What was the issue?
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
Key won't physically turn to start the car. Like something is stuck
serenwipiti@reddit
That doesn’t sound like something is seriously wrong with the engine, did you get a mechanic to look at it?
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
Not yet they are looking at it monday. Hopefully nothing too serious
Beardo88@reddit
Try turning the wheel slighty while pushing the key in. Sometimes the ignition gets bound up if you park with the wheels turning.
ilickspooons@reddit
Get it fixed and sell it. It only gets worse after 100k. I’m nearing 200k miles and it’s a money pit. Big mistake I made by buying it but oh well.
nosmr2@reddit
Yes. If they didn’t have a cult following they would have been out of business years ago. Glad I dumped mine when I did. Was fun for a minute though.
H4tlaughs@reddit
Yes. Sorry but jeeps are junk
KittiesRule1968@reddit
They've got the lowest reliability rating of any vehicle sold in the USA. Fiat has better ratings.
Itchy_Winner_7903@reddit
Some jeeps have fiat branded engines too, lord have mercy on us all.
NotThatSeriousMang@reddit
Aaaaaabsolutely
Ya_Liek_Jazz@reddit
Yes.
nonameusernam6@reddit
Yes,
8amteetime@reddit
Back in the 70’s, we used to say, ‘Jeep rhymes with cheap.’
Nothing’s changed..
Alucard661@reddit
I’ve had my jeep for 8yrs I’ve had two flat tires. But I do regular oil changes and scheduled maintenance on time 140k miles though mostly hwy miles
The_Rurl_Jurrr@reddit
Yes, they suck.
Nice4732@reddit
Yes lol
SailingSpark@reddit
Jeeps make land rovers look reliable.
serenwipiti@reddit
What do you mean by “break down”? What happened?
p211p211@reddit
Any renault product sans maybe a Cummins ram is substandard
Thejanitor64@reddit
Renault has nothing to do with Jeep lmao
p211p211@reddit
Damn my bad. Stellantis? Whatever. Whoever bought Chrysler. Actually, I was thinking of fiat. Knew it was some European company
6inarowmakesitgo@reddit
Uhhh, yeah. They were turds before they left the design stage.
cheeseypoofs85@reddit
Newer ones, yes. They are under the Dodge umbrella. Bottom of the barrel in reliability rankings
anparks@reddit
Find a YouTube mechanic with over 500,000 subscribers that would recommend purchasing a Jeep
Loose_Stools@reddit
Yes, 7 year old cars, especially Jeeps with 100k require "extra attention". Older vehicles are never fixed. You chase them as one thing or another is about to fail. If you are skilled at this, and enjoy the challenge (the ability to fix simple problem helps), you can run a car until the body falls off the frame. If you are not skilled, they will bleed you dry. ...especially Jeeps.
No_School765@reddit
Literally consumer reports most unreliable vehicle decades running.
Revolutionary-Gain88@reddit
Yes
Impressive_East_4187@reddit
Dude you got 7 years and 100k miles out of a car without any problems… that’s really good, especially for a stellantis product.
Most cars are going to start going to shit after 100k miles and 7 years, except for the early 00’s Toyotas and Hondas.
TWJunkman@reddit
I would never buy any vehicle manufactured by Stellantis.
the_leftbuttcheek@reddit
Yea you’ve been extremely lucky that you hadn’t had any issues until now.
KeyBreakfast3386@reddit
I've had a 1990 YJ 4.2 for 30 years. Just keeps going and going.
Tony-cums@reddit
People live under rocks.
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
didn't think I'd get so much flack for asking a question
Optimal_Law_4254@reddit
Welcome to Reddit where an honest question or bringing up a personal experience or opinion can get you dozens or even hundreds of downvotes.
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
I see that haha. I'm gonna try to ignore that part. the knowledge I've gotten from posting this is definitely worth it
daggersrule@reddit
Yeah we're kind of dicks in this sub, but knowledgeable dicks. Come back anytime!
Optimal_Law_4254@reddit
Lol
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
Haha it makes things more interesting that is for sure
DanR5224@reddit
Those people went out in Jeeps and got stranded there. The rock is their rescue shelter.
TuftsofGoo@reddit
It boggles my mind that no one does any research on an item that costs tens of thousands of dollars
Electrical_Sound6625@reddit
Yup
Happy_Pitch8673@reddit
Yeah… that too is a Jeep thing! 😉
SLOspeed@reddit
All cars will break down at some point. Jeeps break down more than average. To be fair, it's partly because they're used as Jeeps. Jostled around, driven through dust and deep water, etc. But regardless, they're interesting and have character.
If you want a "perfect" vehicle, there are lots of Camrys to choose from. They'll be reliable and boring until the end of time.
What's important to YOU?
cacarson7@reddit
Yep, they're trash
4twentyHobby@reddit
When we have to buy a car, we check Consumer Reports and JD Powers reliability list. Jeep is consistently at the bottom of the lists. Also, 2 days of our lives were 'adjusted' when coming across broken down jeeps in bfe.
SneakyRussian71@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/1kl6i91/miscthe_most_reliable_usedcar_brands/
Sarionum@reddit
Jeeps are the least reliable brand out there. Expect failures everyday
ArtistFar1037@reddit
Had a 07 Commander for almost 10 years, until it had 330k on it. Starter, alternator… mmm not much else was wrong ever w it.
goobernaut1969@reddit
Jeeps are great if you like waiting room coffee and old copies of Golf Digest.
wiggo666@reddit
Yes. And I literally just got bitched at in the grand cherokee sub for answering a question about jeep quality
Beardo88@reddit
It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.
RobsHereAgain@reddit
Normal? It’d be abnormal if they didn’t
mistdaemon@reddit
It is a Jeep thing that you wouldn't understand :-).
I went on a 4wd trip with a Jeep group. Many of the Jeeps had problems. But I think one Jeep showed clearly that there was a problem, but not to the Jeep group. One person, who leads a lot of trips, had mounted a bright work light under the hood so he had good lighting for when he broke down. I saw it because he broke down, although it was during the day.
I had been on many other 4wd trips and never had seen so many breakdowns, but with the other groups Jeeps were rare.
I don't know why they find breakdowns so acceptable.
Recondomoe@reddit
Yep, Just Empty Every Pocket
dixiebandit69@reddit
Yes.
4NotMy2Real0Account@reddit
It depends. I have a 2015 grand cherokee with 170k miles on it, and I havent had to do anything except scheduled maintenance. I feel like most people just treat their cars like shit, then blame the manufacturer.
yjite_@reddit
Simple answer, yes it’s a chrysler stellantis they’re all trash.
Dive30@reddit
Yes.
KnownPresence233@reddit
I’m surprised you made it to 100k with no issues honestly. Sorry about the bad news.
Sad-Rip8639@reddit
Yeah...that's them Jeeps.
elBirdnose@reddit
Yes. They’re terrible vehicles.
travielane42069@reddit
That's how they get ya. 100k problem free and then it falls apart. Just long enough for people who trade up every few years to rave about how good they are, and for every second owner to rant about how shitty they are.
It's a vicious cycle
Financial_Actuary_95@reddit
I've had a number of Chrysler products over the years. They were all junk. '79 Plymouth Horizon, '90 Dodge Grand Caravan, '97 Dodge Intrepid and '01 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I blindly thought Chrysler would improve over the years. Nope.
Biuku@reddit
Jeeps are made in the United States. So, yes, they look cool and break.
Fwd_fanatic@reddit
My coworker has had his for 5 years, and in that time, not a year has gone by that it hasn’t needed to be in the shop at least once. Usually more if his summer car is down and he’s gotta drive the Jeep. The other two coworkers who loved his and bought their own have both since sold them since they give them so many problems.
stonewall028@reddit
yes
noluck1977@reddit
My 100k tune up ended up costing over $9000. I was religious with maintenance and then some bad shit happened between my 95k oil change and 100k mile tune up.
caffinaV2@reddit
Sell it before it gets really bad.
asloan5@reddit
Absolute pieces of shit break out a lot
Voltron_The_Original@reddit
As a guy that wrenches as a hobby. I refuse to buy or work on any jeep.
TheGarp@reddit
Yes. Jeeps have been 60% of our frame and suspension shop's business for 25 years. Supported 4 single-income families and sent half of our kids to college. ( and all the in laws are mormons so there's a bazillon of them).
PckMan@reddit
Yes. Even the people who love them, absolutely swear by them, will tell you that they're pieces of shit. They just love them when they're working and are willing to put up with the fact that they often don't.
7 years is a good run for being problem free but if you're not willing to pay extra attention to preventative maintenance on top of regular maintenance, and you want a car that just works with just the regular service intervals, you should get rid of it. If you want this car the consolation is that there is a large community around them who could help you stay on top of the more common issues.
Boz6@reddit
My daughter has a 2019 Cherokee that has had no problems so far.
tjdean01@reddit
They are not very reliable. The off-road capabilities are also 95% useless because people don't go off road. If you sell it and buy a RAV4 you will get better gas mileage, better reliability, and more space.
jmardoxie@reddit
Read Consumer Reports. They don’t have a good reputation.
Winter-Knee3555@reddit
Yes had a 2019 Rubicon and it was the biggest POS I’ve ever owned. Never again.
billjackson58@reddit
I’ve had 5. You will learn to work on them or you will walk a lot more! You will still walk either way!
jeetah@reddit
Jeeps are fine for leasing, but I would never purchase one.
Hmm_I_dont_know_man@reddit
Yes they fucking suck
WatchStoredInAss@reddit
The only thing that Jeeps have going for them is this image of American rugged individualism.
It will make you a rugged individual alright...right after it strands you somewhere.
ed53x@reddit
Never had any problems with them
CaterpillarRoyal6338@reddit
Neither have I, but haven't owned any so that helps.
CockroachVarious2761@reddit
Jeeps have never been known to be super reliable, but older ones always tended to be relatively cheap to repair. That ship has sailed obviously as the newer ones come with all the "improvements" that make all cars more expensive to repair. With that said, and being the owner of an FCA vehicle (RAM); 100K miles on most cars is where they're going to start to need repairs so you've done good so far. If you've taken care of normal maintenance you may be better off than other owners. Mechnically a Wrangler is still pretty basic and the V6 engine they use is known to be pretty reliable. I'm not sure if they used the 8-speed Auto in 2018, but if they did then that's one of the best transmissions sold in any vehicle. You're more likely to need repairs on the electronics, infotainment and creature comforts.
Inner-Chemistry2576@reddit
Yup I only purchased Toyota’s with non -CVTs.
Sweaty-Dot-2488@reddit
Toyota CVT’s aren’t bad or unreliable. My mom had a Corolla with one, had around 280k on it when traded in.
At about 100k it did for a few minutes start lurching at low speeds. We brought it to the dealer, they flashed the ECU and we never had another issue with it.
leifashley27@reddit
Just as a counter… we have a 2019 Wrangler Sahara with 45k miles and we have had 0 issues with it.
han-so-low@reddit
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, yes.
I owned a Grand Cherokee with the EcoDiesel for years and still have nightmares. I’m in a 4Runner now and my life is much less… uncertain.
DetectiveNarrow@reddit
100k is pretty much when any car will start breaking and fucking up. Not really jeep specific. It’s about to suck tho if you want to keep it
Tractorguy69@reddit
JEEP -Just Empty Every Pocket!
Gmod-Racer-Overdrive@reddit
The Jeep Wrangler is one of the few jeeps that uses mostly Chrysler parts instead of Fiat parts so that may be why it lasted longer than other jeeps do. I’m assuming it had the Pentastar V6 in it which is a somewhat decent engine and it probably had a Chrysler transmission rather than a Fiat one. A lot of other jeeps, especially the smaller ones, are basically rebadged Fiats. That’s why they break so much.
Name-Not-Applicable@reddit
Don't worry about the haters, drive what you like. 👍
Having said that, yeah, at 7 years and 100k miles, you’re approaching the “point of diminishing returns” for a Wrangler.
djltoronto@reddit
Everything I read on the internet tells me that it is a Jeep thing, and therefore I cannot understand.
Nichia519@reddit
I'm a mechanic at a Jeep dealership.
YES x 100000.
drunkenwildmage@reddit
A friend of mine who works at the Jeep Wrangler/Gladiator factory has mentioned that there has been a “changing of the guard” among the employees. As a result, the factory has lost many experienced and skilled employees, and brought in workers who have little idea what they are doing and show little concern for quality.
banmeharderdaddy42@reddit
Everything after they discontinued the 4.0 has been shit.
MusingFoolishly@reddit
Kinda impossible to fill those shoes though
banmeharderdaddy42@reddit
They were trying with the Hurricane but they somehow managed to fuck up a straight 6.
greycatdaddy@reddit
You aren’t alone. I had an Audi A4 that always had a problem of one type or another, or so it seemed.
JDinkalageMorgoone69@reddit
Yes.
Neat_Implement_5824@reddit
JEEP..... Just Empty Every Pocket....
glitterfaust@reddit
MOST cars can make it to 100k with minimal issues. It’s once you get past that in the 100-150k region that the bad ones start falling apart. It’s why I’d buy a Honda with 200k miles and wouldn’t touch a Chevy with 120k.
Ultimately, it comes down to maintenance though. I know people with high mileage “unreliable” cars that do all their preventative maintenance and have zero issues and I know people with “reliable” cars that never do anything but maybe an oil change once in a while and their cars are falling apart by 80k.
drakeallthethings@reddit
Go wrong? Absolutely. Leave you stranded? Probably not. Either way I wouldn’t future trip over it. I’m guessing you paid it off long ago.
SexyWampa@reddit
Yeah, especially the new ones.
Hot_Block_9675@reddit
Nope, still at the bottom of the barrel...
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/
SexyWampa@reddit
Yeah, that’s basically what I said. They asked if it was normal for them to break down, I said yes. Where’s the argument?
glitterfaust@reddit
They said especially, not except
ImpliedSlashS@reddit
Jeep and Alfa Romeo are the same company
AqueousBucket48@reddit
Do you cook food in a kitchen?
babsrambler@reddit
yup
Silent-Contract-1790@reddit
Yes. They’re fucking terrible.
Infamous_Hyena_8882@reddit
My only response to people that buy a jeep is to make sure you have AAA
DeejayPleazure@reddit
Yes as they inch closer to 100k, they will start having issues.
J-Rag-@reddit
They've gone down hill after tossing the 4.0. You always see people buying em and loving it but I wouldn't buy one. I'd go for a Bronco before getting a new jeep
Efficient_Field4700@reddit
They come out the factory like that, y'know?
ThumpAndSplash@reddit
J-ust
E-mpty
E-very
P-ocket
DOWNVOTE_DEALER@reddit
Who’s gonna tell him?
wpmason@reddit
A famously unreliable brand, especially since Wranglers are so rugged.
See, they didn’t do much to help the electrical system survive the ruggedness of what a Wrangler is, so they’re famous for electrical gremlins.
But lots of other issues too.
They’ll never get better unless sales dip though. And even with prices going up up up, people just keep buying them.
bigdawg12342@reddit
Jeeps are one of the worst vehicles you can get. Wranglers especially. In just the last 5 years I’ve ridden in atleast 20 jeeps. Wranglers, compass, Cherokees I’ve never been in a single one that doesn’t have some sort of wobble, electrical issue, drivetrain issue, you name it I’ve probably had the pleasure of experiencing it while riding with other people. New and old they suck
Hot_Block_9675@reddit
Says it all....
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/used-car-brand-reliability-a2811658468/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us
Hondahawkrider@reddit
JK or JL model
see Jeep swapped production on in march of '18
So you can have 2 different models in the same year .. I stole.. err swung a good deal on a '18 JKU (u is for unlimited ie 4 door) sitting on a lot when '18 JLUs were along side it
Those who think Jeeps break either don't have 'em or don't pay attention or know their options..
As if you have a stock jeep and keep up on maintenance they are reliable and can't put 200k on em... What happens is that folks upgrade em, lifts and bigger wheels but don't upgrade their drive train... A lot of jeeps on the low end side of JKU's ie Sport and Sport S have 3:21 gearing for better mpg.. If you put a lift kit (not a cheap one either) , put bigger tires and don't upgrade the running gear - recipe for problems later on... I'm running Sahara 18 in rims (vs 17) which isn't an issue as my Sport S has the trailer package and 3:73 gearing, which is the same as the gearing as rhe Sahara.
InvestedOcelot@reddit
Hahahaha. Yes. Every single person I know who has owned one. Many models have electrical issues when its too damp out. I loved the idea of owning one forever but buying used they often have a car history of electrical issues and ecu replacement. When they get older they tend to consume too much oil and don't recover well from low volume.
There is a reason the company has changed hands so many times. Its a joke how these car companies that still cant make a functioning transmission keep merging or being sold to other companies that cant either.
My favorite part is how most wranglers have open differentials so living next to the only mountain in the area its a guilty pleasure driving by them trying to get up hills, up onramps, or through intersections in the snow. Especially the ones who don't know how to turn the traction control off and think they are spinning the tires trying to get going. "punching it" in the snow poor fools.
CromulentPoint@reddit
I don’t understand how it’s possible to own a Jeep for 7 years and be totally clueless about their reputation for being unreliable long term.
grandmascookingg@reddit (OP)
My IQ is room temperature when it comes to cars, and no one in my life is a car person. Now that im finally having issues im realizing I just got really lucky. Thankful for all the years my jeep gave me but these comments solidified its time for a different vehicle
MishkaShubaly@reddit
You got the right attitude about it. Lots of accrued wisdom in this sub and only a few old cranks
dirty15@reddit
Just Empty Every Pocket.
Dear_Efficiency_3616@reddit
when it rains it pours buddy especially with a jeep prepare your wallet
1453_@reddit
Do you classify "problems" as those that leave you stranded?
theAntidepresser@reddit
Yeah they are garbage