mrbigglesworth:

Because when the neighboring polity expresses their desire for the erasure of your existence, you must remove them from power before they do so.

And the only way to do that is to make sure their kids suffer and die from easily curable medical conditions? Interesting…

I believe it is impossible to defend my people while a neighboring state desires our erasure. Pressure must be placed on the neighboring state to change their attitudes and remove their leaders from power.

And the way to do that is to ensure their children suffer and die from easily curable medical conditions?

this is a fantasy. You can't give full rights to people who want to kill you, knowing full well they will be close to, if not the majority. That is just suicide. You can't expect people to commit suicide because it's the nice thing to do.

That is what the white pro-apartheid apologists used to say. They were racist and wrong, but somehow you are not?

I'm going to take this as an admission then that, indeed Muslims have hated jews for 1000 years, right? But on a serious note, I am having a very difficult time finding massacres perpetrated by Jews against Muslims. All I can find are Muslims targeting other sects of Muslims. So I'm going to say that, since the expansion of Islam, Muslims have been treated fairly in the Middle East and have not been targeted with massacres by their fellow, non-Muslim civilians or government.

So you know nothing about middle eastern history, the crusades, Jewish persecution of Christians, Christian persecution of Jews, Muslims explicitly inviting Jews back into Jerusalem in 637 and freeing them of oppression… Really, you know absolutely nothing of the history of which you so confidently speak. This makes sense. True Zionism relies on ignorance.

You say I'm not serious then reply with this. Either you said this seriously, in which case you actually can't read. Or you're being obtuse.

More taxes? Can you please tell me how much taxes Jews, Muslims and Christians had to pay? In amounts, not in the absurd “it’s so unfair” BS that avoids all actual frank discussion.

The point was, for 1000 years, they made Jews second class citizens. This demonstrates their disdain for Jews. How do you not see that? How can you say they liked Jews, but also Jews need to pay more taxes, can't hold government office, and will be violently targeted by the government and civilian pogroms every 20 years or so?

Yes, not allowing Jews to hold high office is terrible and unfair. They only let Jews hold the highest offices in Iraq, the Persian empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Byzantine empire and the various caliphates.

Seriously, though, the only time there was a ban on Jews holding high office was in the Byzantine empire, and that was routinely ignored outside the capital. Look it up if you don’t believe me.

It’s very important to you to bring up this history from 1,000 years ago. It justifies starving children today. Did anyone justify starving Jewish children 1,000 years ago? No, but who cares? As long as you get to watch Palestinian kids starve to death now it makes it all worth it, doesn’t it? After all, you are convinced they hate you. Making their kids starve won’t make them hate you more, will it? No, of course not! Starving children is always the moral thing to do.