Interesting deactivated guns for sale at Chicago Regimentals in Tokyo
Posted by Dear_Implement6304@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 47 comments
Posted by Dear_Implement6304@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 47 comments
beandart@reddit
Tokyo? I though guns were banned in Japan
TheWalkerofWalkyness@reddit
Guns are in fact legal in Japan, it's just very hard to get a gun license, and the process includes a police investigation of your personal life and reason for acquiring a firearm. Semi auto and full auto firearms and handguns are not legal. In a country of 124 million some people there only about 150 thousand privately owned firearms.
The guns in the pictures above are real guns converted into wall hangings that cannot be fired.
MrWeed9819@reddit
Barrels don’t appear to be cut, therefore they most likely have plugs in the chamber or the firing pins are welded over. A few hours time and some tools and I’d bet all of those would be functional shooters.
Zealousideal_Ad2379@reddit
Bigger issue would getting a decent amount of ammunition in Japan, an island nation that has pretty tightly controlled ports and not too much open societal corruption.
tearjerkingpornoflic@reddit
I saw a post somewhere about a guy making his own cartridges. Used strike anywhere heads he shaved off into a powder for the primers. Used brass tube for the cartridge and then soldiered the bottom. Though would be easy but time consuming with a lathe.
D0esANyoneREadTHese@reddit
The better powder for primers is regular strike-on-box matches, a mix of the heads themselves and the red phosphorous from the striker strips. If you get a swage block and some punches you can make the actual metal part of the primer pretty easy with a hammer, although making the little spider thingy that goes in the middle is kinda annoying so if you're DIYing it's easier to make your cartridges with Berdan-style primer pockets with the sticky-uppy bit.
As for the cartridge itself, yeah, brass tube and solder works well for low-pressure stuff like pistol or shotgun rounds. 3D prints work for shotgun shells too. You can also just buy "decorative" dummy rounds (like for jewelry or whatever) and use those, I don't think those are controlled in Japan and all you gotta do is solder over the necklace hole. That's basically the only way to do rifle rounds without a lathe, and considering the tight tolerances and compound tapers of modern bottlenecked cartridges, it's kinda hard to do even WITH a lathe unless you spring for a CNC.
I_2_Cast_Lead_45acp@reddit
That one guy used black powder from fireworks to kill the x p/m.
Zealousideal_Ad2379@reddit
Yeah…because he couldn’t get access to cartridges. That was an electrically ignited muzzle loader.
I_2_Cast_Lead_45acp@reddit
People will find a way to do evil no matter what
Sentient-burgerV2@reddit
This is a ridiculous argument
The_Best_Yak_Ever@reddit
But damn, that 2 band Harper’s Ferry 1855 Springfield in the counter display with the anti tank rifle, is pretty damn sexy…
TakowTraveler@reddit
I've been to the Regimentals Tokyo branch many times; it's pretty cool!
Though to be honestly slightly afraid of them getting too many tourist chucklefucks to the point they don't allow you to just walk in like you can now.
In some of these the background doesn't look familiar; might be the angle or might be some pics of the Osaka branch mixed-in. There's one in Osaka as well (I'll probably hit in about 12 days when I'm around), so for anyone going to the 3 largest cities in Japan you've got a chance to go by one of these places.
gundog48@reddit
I'm visiting in a couple of weeks, both Tokyo and Osaka. I'd love to stop by, but it would be a museum visit for me as I can't exactly put one in my suitcase for the flight back! I'm really interested in just looking, I'd pay to look around, but don't want to impose on them with no ability to buy anything. What's your thoughts on this? It looks like a place I could spend all day, but I don't want to be disrespectful.
StonewallSoyah@reddit
Looks like tons of great parts kits!
EliteSuun@reddit
If I could work at that place it would be a dream job. Only bad thing is you couldn't fire them.
It was such a cool place to visit though.
ProgressBackground21@reddit
It wouldn't take much to reactivate most of these. So sad to see
angry-southamerican@reddit
I'm betting it wouldn't. But without ammo it's still a wall hanger.
jacgren@reddit
They're usually heavily demilled, they just do it in a way where it looks good externally still.
RaiderCat_12@reddit
I’m not one to express about it unprompted, especially here, but I think that deactivating such important historical firearms should be a fucking crime.
InitialAd4125@reddit
Sorry in Japan only the government who commits mass killing can have guns civilians. No they're the untrustworthy ones.
RaiderCat_12@reddit
Apparently the Japanese government got my comment downvoted too lol
Natural_Comparison21@reddit
Japan in general is a… Not super logical country. Like it’s a absolutely wild take to go “So the government caused us to have two nukes dropped on us… But no they are totally a force for good.”
RaiderCat_12@reddit
On the legislative side Japan’s a pretty broken country.
Goes without saying, many countries are like that, but Japan just has that perfect enough blend of overrestricting certain fields and underrestricting others to be a paragon of absurdity among civilized countries.
No_Ad4032@reddit
Is this the equivalent of firearms taxidermy?
Temporary_Border7233@reddit
Thats unironicly the best term of it
enfersijesais@reddit
What’s the gun equivalent of being a vegan?
ConeinMyCannon@reddit
BMR stands for Bain Mattle Rifle.
Content-Range-9419@reddit
What is image for never seen that before maybe Singaporean?
NYC19893@reddit
Can these be bought and shipped to the US?
DukeOfGeek@reddit
That MG 30, holy crap.
SuitableChapter7629@reddit
Same thought here...
Many-Presentation-56@reddit
Thankfully no VSS Vintorez have been sent to this store… such a shame Japan controls private firearm ownership soo much
Pratt_@reddit
Damn that Beretta M1915 and the MP41 travelled, I'd be curious to know their story !
And I think that it's the first time I see a BAR M1918.
CaptainofChaos@reddit
I'd guess they went to China first, then were taken as war trophies. The allies kind of just dumped weapons to the Chinese and called it a day for a lot of WW2.
Get_Em_Puppy@reddit
The Beretta is unlikely to be from China, Ethiopia is much more likely as a large number of them ended up there after the First World War.
FWIW the guy that runs Chicago Regimentals only says that he found the Beretta in a crate of "junk rifles". Quite likely to be one of the recent hauls from Ethiopia via Royal Tiger Imports.
Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit
How much do these cost, on average?
Always thought it'd be cool to have some obscure gun as a wall hanger.
I_2_Cast_Lead_45acp@reddit
That 43m made my cry some inside.
chauggle@reddit
A SPAS-15 in the wild - holy shit
TheManUpstairs77@reddit
Theoretically speaking, for some of the really unique shit like that MG-30, couldn’t they be chopped and imported into the US like normal? No offense to Japanese gun guys, but, I’d rather see a semi auto MG-30 than a not functional one.
jacgren@reddit
They could be, but Japanese law requires a lot of the gun to be neutered to be a legal dewat. Usually the barrel is fully plugged and has slits cut in it, bolt is cut in half and welded, part of the trigger is removed, etc.
Much_Smell7159@reddit
Was in Japan earlier this year on a family trip. Bummed I had to miss out on going there it looks like such a cool place
MlackBesa@reddit
Can’t believe these aren’t more popular in Japan considering the length they go to make extremely faithful replicas (model guns, cap-firing guns, and of course airsofts) and how enthusiasts there are obsessed by realism. I remember MGC Beretta 92s even replicating the firing pin safety block that would lift up when the trigger is pressed.
Are those regulated, are they complicated to buy? I see they conserve moving parts which is very cool as well.
NotaFed556@reddit
Is the Sr88 what Keltec based the Su16 on
bmbreath@reddit
That was my favorite one, I have never seen it, it looks very Daewoo esque to me.
_whatever_idc@reddit
That AR-10 is absolutely gorgeous.
FuddFucker5000@reddit
Beautiful
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