Just a rant
Posted by Pink_Panther_24@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 25 comments
Hi all, I am an Italian living in Edinburgh, well, now outside of Edinburgh, and I miss Italy so much! I moved here 4 years ago, through the company I was working for. Initially, I was so happy about the change of environment and the more healthy work-life balance. About a year ago, I even managed to buy a house, ouside of the City. I have a Scottish boyfriend and we live together. But I am so unhappy! The only people I managed to connect with are all foreigners, and they all moved back to their native countries. I struggle to connect to people here, and I feel so unfulfilled. I don't particularly like my job, so I would look for fulfillment outside of it, but there don't seem to be decent cultural activities to do. I've been here 4 years, and seen only local artists exhibitions. At the beginning, it seemed interesting, as it was something new, but now it so dull. I miss Milan so much, I miss all the theaters, the international exhibitions, the cultural events, the infinite offer of evening or weekend courses and classes for people who work. Here everything seems thought for children and retirees, people my age (almost 40) with no kids are like outcasts. How can I meet new people in such a dead society? I desperately want to go back, or at least move to a place in the UK where there is a decent cultural offer. The problem is that my partner doesn't want to go anywhere but Scotland. And I doubt that anywhere else in Scotland things are different. Has any of you had a different experience here? Am I missing something? Am I just looking in the wrong places? I feel so lonely and lost.
werchoosingusername@reddit
Try internations.org they are worlwide and have events.
No need for paying for the premium upgrade. Getting out of it is a hassle.
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
I am going to try this one too, I'll try everything that these comments suggest in the hope that something works! Thanks!
werchoosingusername@reddit
Welcome!
FrauAmarylis@reddit
If you can get a job in Italy, move there!
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
Did you miss the part where I explain that my partner is Scottish and doesn't want to move? Getting a job there is not the issue.
Realistic_Tale2024@reddit
Italians are immigrants, not expats.
expats-ModTeam@reddit
This discussion has been done to death and new posts on this subject are just troll attempts at this point. For the purposes of this subreddit, the terms are interchangeable.
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
LOL you are so ridiculous
No_Translator8881@reddit
FInally......a well written post using logic, facts, and reason, that is about someone not lliking where they are, and it's not a rant about a relationship going bad, or a mental breakdown, because they are in a reality a 30 year old child who has left home for the first time and can't handle being in adult situations.
Thank you. My faith in this section of Reddit has been restored somewhat.
I've never been to Scotland, so I can't answer specifically as you requested, but, have you tried the approch of taking your boyfriend on an extended holiday to Milan or any of the other places in Europe you miss to see if he warms up to the idea of relocating ?
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
Thank you for your reply! I was thinking of suggesting him a very long holiday there next year, to see if he changes his mind about the city, or if he would at least be available to spend more time there. We usually go visit my family together once a year, just for a few days, and apart from complimenting the food, he doesn't enjoy the rest too much.
No_Translator8881@reddit
Yeah, you're on the right track IMHO with that, a long term trip spaced out for a week in 4-6 (or more) different locations to change flavors should do the trick.
Good luck !!
Mirichanning@reddit
Hey girl. I'm also an expat living in Edinburgh, I know the feeling you're talking about. I have spent soooo muuuuch time building my network and my "edin family" here. It takes time. Be patient. Don't let loneliness give up, Edinburgh is beautiful, there are so many things to do 🥰 this feeling will pass! Something that helped me was to join groups and activities, hobbies, etc. What makes you tick? I guarantee there will be people doing social things around that - Google, discord, Eventbrite are food starting points.
On a more personal note, I am in my 40s and happy to meet for a coffee anytime.
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
Thank you for sharing your experience here!
What I was looking for was evening drawing and painting classes, but there isn't really much I could find. I opted then for a French course in the evening and a Russian one during the weekend, but they are both just an hour and with 3 participants on average, and everyone rushes away as soon as the course finishes. I have also looked for evening college or university courses in various topics, and again, found nothing.
I will keep looking to see if anything comes up at some point, but I must admit that I lost all hope.
I'd be happy to meet up anyway! I'd really love to broaden my network, which at the moment consists only of my partner.
Mirichanning@reddit
I've DM you 😎🥰
Ok-Assistance4133@reddit
👋 hi, not Scottish, but also living just outside of Edinburgh and also lonely here sometimes. I miss Europe too and I'd love to grab a meal or catch an art exhibition sometime! Im about your age and similarly share your frustrations with this place! We can moan about it together, you know Scottish people hate that. PM me Id love to make more friends 💖
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
Done! :)
KreuzKrow@reddit
In a similar situation, I am 31, from Spain but live in Edinburgh and I don't have too many friends around here since almost everyone I knew already left. I would move somewhere else, but my Scottish girlfriend wants to stay in Scotland near her family. So I understand you haha
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
We really are in the same situation! I wish you all the best, and hope you can meet new friends soon!
Ill-Supermarket-2706@reddit
Italian expat living in London with an Englishman - trust me I have the same feeling about missing home and it’s hard when most people in my circle of friends have left either to have kids (moving out of town) or moved back to Italy or other county due to how unaffordable London is. I’m not interested in moving anywhere else in the uk because at least in London I can continue meeting other Italians or foreigners and have more hobbies. I know for my partner moving to Milan would be impossible so trying to make it work in London seems like the sensible thing. However it is so hard, especially when I think about the kind of house I could buy in Italy for the price of an old London flat…
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
I totally understand your experience, and I am trying to do the same: make it work here as I know my partner wouldn't move anywhere else, but there are times when it's really difficult to keep going.
Edinburgh has become gradually more expensive too, so maybe that's why the other expats I used to know have decided to go back home. I know that London is way more expensive than here, so I can't complain too much.
I hope we can both meet new friends that won't leave soon!
Evening_Revenue_1459@reddit
You are not alone. I'm in Germany, moved for my German partner and am in the same situation. I also miss home a lot and my partner would never move.
Try to look at the glass half full:
You speak the local language already at a very high level. Imagine what it would have been like to learn a new language in your 40s.
You can become native in English, accent, pronunciation and all.
You have international experience.
You can travel around Britain and Ireland on a whim. Maybe go to London more often, for a change of scenery?
There are apps for making friends (bumble, meetup). Try to meet other Italians. Or other expats. As far as I know, the Scottish are quite friendly. Maybe try more with the locals? It can be a lot worse, in Germany, Austria, CH, the nordics, people are not that friendly and you basically have to wait an eternity and give away 3 kidneys before getting chummy with any locals.
Try an English/Italian tandem. Try giving private Italian lessons. Try preply/italki where you can give Italian lessons. Just as something extra to do. Take advantage of your special skills.
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
I like your positive approach, I really needed it!
I am sorry to hear that in Germany it's difficult making friends too, maybe I am too used to the outgoing ways of Italians: I miss getting in conversations with strangers during daily tasks like buying some bread! The locals are friendly, but I find it hard to go deeper than small talk with them, at which I am terrible too! I can try Bumble, I know it has an option just to meet friends but I've never tried it. And I will surely try preply and italki: I love languages and it would be fun to teach Italian!
Thanks for the suggestions!
BeraRane@reddit
Where did you move outside of Edinburgh?
Comparing city to city life is fine but if you have moved to a town of 50k people then of course it's not going to rival the lifestyle of Milan or any other city.
Pink_Panther_24@reddit (OP)
I am not comparing the life of a village with Milan, I am at less than 30 minutes by train to Edinburgh. I am comparing Edinburgh cultural offer and life to Milan ones. Buying a house not in the city itself didn't change my perception of things, I was unhappy two years ago as I am now.
Sea-Ad-9677@reddit
Hi Pink. Wishing you the best. I passed through Edinburgh 6 months ago and I was shocked by the level of trash in the streets, slovenly people and what appeared to be a lack of pride by locals regarding their city. I have never seen so much gum that people throw on the streets which I thought was disgusting. It is a historic city with beautiful architecture but I will never return. I have never been to Milan but I hear great things about it.