If God is a Serb, Allah is a Bosnian?

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One person that understands. I am from slovenia and my history teacher is from bosna (hes the best). He said bosanci are all people who live in BIH and bošnjaki are those who converted to islam in "stari vek" time, but they are actually croatians that didnt like catholicism and serbs that hated ortodox church, snd they all concerted to islam because of higher status in ottoman empire

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jinawee@reddit

He might be the best, but he's wrong. The only correct part is that they converted because of higher status (and other privileges). It's normal to not know history in the Balkans due to nationalistic propaganda, but I would expect Slovenians to be past that.

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Pjeter_Bogdani@reddit

No, the bosnians are its own nationality, not just “muslim serbs”. Before they were muslim, they had their own church, a bosnian church BUT in this church the trinity of jesus was not accepted, hence not getting support from Vatican. And when the ottomans came, the bosnians resonated well with islam, hence the bosniaks became muslim.

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MIMADANMEI@reddit

Yeah they had their own church but idk if they were their own nationality

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UnitedImplement678@reddit

Bosniaks used to be Croats and Serbs (tho mostly Croats if we're being honest), but that doesn't take away from the fact they are real nation. National identities back then weren't as strong among common people anyways, and with time their regional identity evolved to become national one.

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MIMADANMEI@reddit

Never said they werent its own nation, long time all southern slavs were one nation and after that they started to diferenciate into its own nations. All people actually came from one nation long time ago

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jinawee@reddit

Completely false. Long time ago the concept of nation didn't exist. Didn't they teach that in class? In History or Literature class?

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UnitedImplement678@reddit

Well thats actually opposite of truth, there were even more Slavic tribes before Croats and Serbs arrived and united most of Slavs in western Balkans.

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Pjeter_Bogdani@reddit

Just no, all slavs were once together, but abrahamic religion divided yall. /s

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CompleteAnimal4606@reddit

What differences are there except religion?

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Pjeter_Bogdani@reddit

Upvote, I couldn’t agree more.

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2024-2025@reddit

You both are wrong but you’re less wrong than the first guy. The modern definition of ethnicity wasn’t a thing back then. People in Bosnia called themselves Bosnians/Bosniaks way before Islam came. Not Croat not Serb. This was the case of the Catholics in Bosnia also, they were Bosnians, not Croats.

Calling them Croats who didn’t like Catholicism is just what Croat nationalist propaganda says. Calling them Serbs is even more wrong since the big orthodox presence is the result of immigration from the east during ottoman times.

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Nice_Magician3014@reddit

So Allah is a Serb?

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gpetrov@reddit

Не брат, Господ е Българин. https://youtu.be/iXEub2eyABc?si=CB-wWEl_iMj2ajlp

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chrstianelson@reddit

God and Allah is the same thing. Allah is just the name. Islam's God is the same god as Christian God.

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Exact_Sea_2501@reddit

That wouldn’t be true because how can the same god give different messages? One is god and the other is a demon.

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Pjeter_Bogdani@reddit

Or maybe, just maybe you should stop trusting books which were written 2000 years ago.🤷🏻‍♂️

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Exact_Sea_2501@reddit

Regardless. It’s just logical. If none of the books are true fine. But if they are true, then only one can be true.

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Mysterious-Put1459@reddit

Exactly, all Abrahamic religions believe in the same God but each considers the others false since they deviate or even contradict whatever narrative the individual religion has so they must be corruptions.

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Emotional_Cut2206@reddit

And trust ones that were written 1400 years ago?

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Pjeter_Bogdani@reddit

Gahhdamn bruv, i mean that one too. Or you think Albanians from Kosovo are fundamental islamists?

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Emotional_Cut2206@reddit

Ah no, I don't care about that.

I was thinking you were saying "Let's trust Quran which was 1400 years ago, but not Bible which was 2000 years ago" like it makes such a big difference.

Since your point is about something different, I don't know, I hope not?

Whats a fundamental islamism? If they keep the peace part, then yes, I hope so. If they keep the child marriage and bad stuff then I hope not.

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Pjeter_Bogdani@reddit

I am saying that, not only in between albanians, but also in the balkans, fundamental religion was a justification for war crimes most of the times to the point that i want them all gone. They make their own cults and feel superior towards other groups of people with a different religion, and it’s not exclusive with islam, orthodoxy or catholicism. I want them all gone.

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ShitassAintOverYet@reddit

Islam excuse this as such:

Earlier Abrahamic religions(Judaism and Christianity) aren't the exact same thing but have the same fundamentals.
Older religions were not written and memorized by the prophet to write Gabriel's messaging word by word.

Personally I don't buy this claim and see every Abrahamic religion in the same tier as Ancient Greek or Norse mythologies...regional folklore that can be a fun read.

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New_Document_7964@reddit

Also, is this a circlejerk sub now?

Always has been

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edwardkenw4y@reddit

2balkan4u has returned, Mashallah.

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ilovemangos3@reddit

jesus is portuguese

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Forward_Escape7019@reddit

Christ was Serbian (I mean look at the photos).

I'm not gonna call Muhammad a Bosnian because that's mean (to Bosnians)

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Cefalopodul@reddit

Serbs are just masculine Slovenians.

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Itsgxl@reddit

There's no such thing as masculine Slovenian

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Brilliant_Actuary986@reddit

As a Greek, based.

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Itsgxl@reddit

See, we can agree on things Komşu.

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Brilliant_Actuary986@reddit

I guess (Anatolia and Cyprus are still Greek though)

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BarskiPatzow@reddit

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Many-Rooster-7905@reddit

Serbs are pork eating turks, no hate

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Square-Confusion-789@reddit

I dont think so

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Defiant-Strength2010@reddit

hot take alert

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Unable-Stay-6478@reddit

Allah Islamović.

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Opposite_Ad_1161@reddit

God is God. Abrahamic religion - share the same god - judaism, christianity and islam, difference is in god's word, judsism is vanilla, christianity is first expansion, islsm second expansion. God name is Jahweh. Allah is just arabic word for God -examp. insallah - if God's wills.

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Kranvagen@reddit

Bog (serbian) , God (english) , Allah(arabian) , Gott(german) ,Tann( turkish)

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Perazdera68@reddit

Deal.

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PetrichorDude@reddit

I’d take that deal

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ShitassAintOverYet@reddit

Dawg God and Allah are the same thing.

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gagone@reddit

Ergo serbians and bosnians are also the same🧐

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PetrichorDude@reddit

Oh no, not another yugo war! 😔

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travelling202@reddit

that's the point

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itlo@reddit

"Allah" means "the God" Jesus called God Alaha in his Aramaic language.

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Divisive_Ass@reddit

Idk proper bosnian is christian. Turk opinions are irrelevant.

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kykkskwneb8@reddit

Bosnia will always be muslim. Cigan Serbs and chatolik croatians are irrelevant in bosnia

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SHESTOPERAC@reddit

Serbs are Bosnians too.

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qCallisto@reddit

God is made up so he can be whatever you want.

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No-Efficiency250@reddit

Well said!!

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demonarchist@reddit

God is Jewish. Perun is, if anything, closest to being a Serb, but he wisely breaks with the modern tradition of deities and doesn't play national favorites.

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mrocznyduch@reddit

Are you looking to open another Pandora box haha

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Careful-Evening-5187@reddit

Zeus is Greek.

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Zekieb@reddit

Tomorr is Albanian.

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caesarj12@reddit

Its Perëndi and Prende in Illyrian beliefs I kid you not. Basically the Illyrian version of Zeus and Hera... And now you understand why god is sometimes referred as Perëndia and how the Albanian friday (e Premte) came to be or places named saint Premte (Shen Premte) came to be.

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