Leaving tomorrow and guilt is through the roof and killing my mood
Posted by nelty78@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 27 comments
We're moving tomorrow from France to Florida. When we found out around 3 weeks ago post visa approval, we were overjoyed and telling everyone. I started buying the tickets, planning the move, even selecting a car.
I've always traveled and even lived in Colombia for 3 years so I didn't expect much pushback from my parents. Oh was I wrong! My mom is fine with it, and wants what's best for us, but my dad has turned into a buzzkill and doesn't miss an opportunity to tell us how big of a mistake it is, how he's "losing a son", how he'll never see his future grandchildren, how bad of a country the US are, and the list goes on.
Since we're leaving tomorrow, we've had more social events in the last two weeks to say goodbye to people and have hung out with my parents more than usual. There's even a goodbye party planned for tonight, planned by my mom. But I'm at the point where I barely want to go because I know that my dad will be sad, mad, and letting everyone know.
It's been our dream to go live in Florida for a couple of years now, and my wife is Colombian so we expect she will fit nicely in the culture over there. I know it's the right move for *us*, but as all expats know and as I'm learning myself now, the amount of guilt can take us by surprise. It's crushing me because I was SO excited for the move and now I'm lowkey worried that I won't even be happy there. Trust me, I want to move but it feels wrong that such a happy event for us can make someone I care about so sad.
Is there anything I can do to make my dad feel better about this? Do you think the guilt go down a bit once we're in Florida? We're probably going to be going back to France twice a year moving forward, so it's not like we're vanishing. Oh, and my dad has said multiple times "I'll never visit you over there, if you want to see us, come to France". Probably out of spite...
zeratul5541@reddit
Horrible decision that as am american
Kingston31470@reddit
Agree. As a French.
zeratul5541@reddit
Well currently that last point is kind of up in the air. Though maybe OP is a hard right leaning bigot and wants to be with his people. If not, stay out of the US especially Florida.
ricecrystal@reddit
That's what I'm assuming the OP is.
DualCitizenWithDogs@reddit
He apparently hasn't seen the MAGA people changing their tune as soon as THEIR rights have been usurped. It's fine to remove the rights of others to all the red voters. I have seen numerous fascists who voted for TFG whose spouses, employees and even children have been deported. How they didn't realize they weren't immune to tyrrany is beyond me.
ricecrystal@reddit
Yup!
Catladylove99@reddit
The Supreme Court made it legal to racially profile people, OP’s wife is Colombian, and ICE is kidnapping people off the streets, regardless of visa status, and making them disappear with no meaningful legal recourse for the victims or their families. I would not consider that “minimal risk,” especially in an extremist state like Florida.
ricecrystal@reddit
Exactly.
Jevodiah109@reddit
Why Florida, of all places? Just curious.
But yeah, your Dad is just worried about you all. If you've been keeping up with any USA news, you'd see what it's been like for immigrants nowadays, especially if they're from any Central or South American country. On top of that, you're moving to a state that is one of the most conservative in the country, and seem to be going out of their way to make life worse for the average person.
You and your wife need to keep your papers on you whenever you go out and keep a lawyer close by.
nelty78@reddit (OP)
I am moving for business reasons as my company is based in South Florida. Thankfully we are immigrating *legally* but I am fully aware of the ongoing issues and the terrible videos I see posted on Reddit on a daily basis. I am not taking the matter lightly but at the end of the day, it's for business reasons and if we don't like it, we are moving back to France.
afurtherdoggo@reddit
sadly the legality of your residence seems to matter little to the baby-SS ICE agents who are snatching people.
-Chemist-@reddit
Damn. Someone hasn’t been paying attention to the news. This seems like a terrible idea.
ricecrystal@reddit
Either that or he's pro-fascist
ricecrystal@reddit
You're moving a Latina woman TO Florida in 2025 with all that is going on here?
I don't even know what to tell you. Jeez
DualCitizenWithDogs@reddit
The truth is that being brown, an immigrant, and based in Florida is a really tough combination in 2025. US residents with sanity all have exit strategies. I know numerous people who are leaving the US and a few who already have. I am moving to France as soon as I am able. It is legitimately dangerous here and is going to get worse quickly. I live in a far more affluent area with far less bullshit than average for POC and I know four people who have left the US. One, a friend's nanny, (legally here from Colombia) showed me the three tracking devices she was wearing on her body. In her purse, sewn into her shoe and in her pocket. She said a dozen people were able to track her. She had a handful of friends who had been illegally detained for walking while non-white in an ICE raid. Their stories are seriously chilling. She voluntarily moved back to Colombia "because it is safer to be brown in Colombia than in the USA". As someone here currently, do anything you can to stay where you are. This is not a drill.
mycatonkeyboard@reddit
Realize that someone throwing a tantrum doesn't mean you can not make decisions yourself. You should he excited and make the best of your move. They're old and want their family nearby, it's quite normal
Wytch78@reddit
I’m a Floridian who would like to move TO France. This post is wild to me. My grocery bill for a family of four is $1,000/month.
kulukster@reddit
At this point you have to go thru with the move and make the most of it. It seems you place a lot of pressure on yourself with your parents approval but this might be a good time to separate your need for approval with your own desires and actions.
And, as an American, I also am worried about your move. If you have been keeping up with the news in the US, it's a very bad time to be non-white, and an immigrant on top. Be very very careful, keep papers on you at all times and have a lawyer's contact ready if the worst happens.
Good luck.
alanamil@reddit
And going to a very very red state. I am american and I would not want to live there right now.. Ice snatching people off the roads left and right. As someone else said, Americans want to leave, me included.
Particular_Heat2703@reddit
Most americans want out these days. I'd much rather be anywhere in the EU. In fact, I'm traveling to Malta this weekend to check it out.
wigl301@reddit
Florida 😧
MarsBars_Mom@reddit
Unfortunately Florida, as an American, even as beautiful as it is, would be the last place I'd move thanks to politics. If you align with their politics, policies then maybe it'll be ok. But at this point im not sure what "outsider" would be welcome in especially red states, especially if they aren't rich and white. I hope things work for the best for you and it is what you hoped for. If you have kids or plan on, please look into what Florida schools are like currently. I live within driving distance to Florida and I'm white and too scared and unwilling to drive through Florida anytime soon. I'm sorry you're not getting much positivity in comments. I think a lot of people gasped when reading someone moving TO America right now.
Suitable_Whereas1109@reddit
I have to agree that moving to FL is a bad idea. The cost of living there is horrible, unemployment is bad across the US, inflation is rampant, political situation is unstable at best... the fact that you have people throwing you a party indicates you have people there who love you. I wouldn't trade that to live in FL. American life is often very isolating.
ArkieHiker@reddit
I live in the US and we absolutely REFUSE to spend a dime or a minute of time in Florida.
Stuffthatpig@reddit
Ignore the reddit echo chamber. You made the decision for a reason. The last 3 months before we moved back to the US were the busiest and happiest of my life. Friends came out of the woodwork to do stuff. If they had done stuff with us before to that level, we wouldn't have moved
MRSRN65@reddit
Have you been keeping up with the news in the US? Do you have an exit strategy plan?
Jackson88877@reddit
You should listen to your father.