Would you take this flying?

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Head-Reindeer-4082@reddit

Only if enemy forces were closing in and this plane was the only means of escape.

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bonfraier@reddit

flying, yes... landing, that's a totally different matter

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CounterSimple3771@reddit

I'd probably limit myself to taxi and take-off with it. Tires can be such a drag.

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Penki-@reddit

I don't see how this could stop you from landing. You don't really need wheels at all to land, they only are necessary if you want to fly again.

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yt1300pilot@reddit

Landing is going to happen one way or another. Having a problem after you touch down? Thats another thing. If you could eliminate a risk, why wouldn't you?.

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PoniesPlayingPoker@reddit

Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you

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doubleUsee@reddit

really the only thing you need for landing is land.

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Penki-@reddit

Dont you think that you should be more open minded?

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doubleUsee@reddit

I will die on this hill; a water landing shouldn't be called a landing but a watering.

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Penki-@reddit

od hill to die on. Not that you are wrong on landing part, but on the word choice to replace it, it should be either sliding, slipping or sailing

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KBED1185@reddit

lol talking about word choice - where’d you grab “od” from?

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Penki-@reddit

from my odd second language skills. Thanks for pointing this out as this was not the first time I used od instead of odd

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aitorbk@reddit

Taking off is optional, but once you do so, landing is mandatory.

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cwajgapls@reddit

“Returning to earth”…sure. What goes up must come down. But you don’t have to “land”. You can “crash” too

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ValuableShoulder5059@reddit

Landing was only mandatory until the parachute was invented.

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Clark_W_Griswold-Jr@reddit

Even the parachute has to land though. 🤔

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Huugboy@reddit

Well no, it still lands whether you jumped out or not..

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ValuableShoulder5059@reddit

If you are no longer PIC or on board, below or in front of it, not your problem.

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TheAgedProfessor@reddit

There's a whole 'nother tire on the other side of the axle. It'll be fiiiiiiine. /s

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Prof_Slappopotamus@reddit

You gotta hit the drop down and swap your alts, dawg.

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SleepingProcess@reddit

Indiana Jones approves.

When he landed In SNA on a taxi way? :)

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StryngzAndWyngz@reddit

“Was that airliner supposed to be there?” -Indiana Jones (or some guy who looks a lot like him)

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ryanturner328@reddit

how many plies are those tires? on the aircraft that i work on if you can count 5 plies gone then it requires a change.

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A mate sent me a photo of when he was on a plane with a tyre worse than this once. One of the pilots happened to be doing a walk around at the time and I asked if he was aware of it and he said “Oh yes!” was the reply.

Showed it to a maintenance guy who told me it wasn’t as bad as running a car tyre down to the canvas though it would be up for replacement.

Plane then took off and landed without incident so all good.

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Fly4Vino@reddit

"Plane then took off and landed without incident so all good."

5 of 6 Russian roulette players are also winners

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planko13@reddit

Tire will be fine, but running it like this often prevents the tire manufacturer from retreading it, costing the airline $$.

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Fly4Vino@reddit

Appears to be through two layers of fabric NO

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PassengerMuted9060@reddit

It’s just one cord. I would take it but probably not do a ton of transition work.

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qdichris@reddit

Fly? Yes. Land? No.

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discombobulated38x@reddit

What does the aircraft maintenance manual say? I'd base it on that.

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Madmaxdriver2@reddit

This is the way

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Mr_Hino@reddit

As an aircraft mechanic that worked F-35’s, this one would be a no go lol that gash could not be super deep, but it’ll get much worse on landing, better switch it to be on the safe side

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Flying-Toto@reddit

Manual will say it's unserviceable BUT, If you are out station with no wheel, you can perform on flight.

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discombobulated38x@reddit

Well then, that's one flight and a submitted technical deviation request begging for 100 more with no repeat inspections if my experience is anything to go by.

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angrypanda83@reddit

We had the same stipulation for tires. If away from MOB and the tire was U/S, you had a maximum of 2 landings. However that also depended on how bad it was. No deviation required it was already in the TOs.

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discombobulated38x@reddit

The deviation is for when you go beyond a manual/TO, for example an airline asking if they can have 30 more flights for an aircraft with a failed compressor blade.

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biggusfootusnz@reddit

What if the crew "happened" to find it when they got back to base?

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discombobulated38x@reddit

Well then they raise a variance request, because they've done their one flight, and any other course of action is criminal negligence.

If the inspection hasn't been logged they're already chancing getting fired.

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Alarmed-Inflation931@reddit

This should always be the question.

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PreparationWeird2086@reddit

Is it within limits?

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willits1725@reddit

Send it..

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koltontrombly47@reddit

Idk is that cord I’m seeing? I bet it could definitely do a 1 time ferry flight in good weather conditions to a repair station

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Zestyclose_Sell_9460@reddit

Yes….A&P/IA and maintenance test pilot for where I work. That tire is fine…if you know how to land…that tire will last 100 more landings. If you land like a student pilot…no, it’s time for a new 10 ply!

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flying-is-awesome@reddit

Absolutely not, multiple areas of chord showing and the gashes indicate a pretty hard side loading of the airplane.

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wellthatsjustyouropi@reddit

Your not driving to Vegas hell yeah I would…

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cycles_commute@reddit

In the Navy we would use the tire until you could see 3 plies. And we where landing on carriers. But yeah, whatever the manual says.

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ThatHellacopterGuy@reddit

What’s the AMM say?

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ltsmash1200@reddit

Fly? Yes. Land? No.

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This_Elk_1460@reddit

I don't think you have to worry about it while you're flying

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zaraandrade@reddit

next landing is going to be an adventure

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girl_incognito@reddit

What is the airworthiness standard for your tires? Theyre either airworthy or they're not.

Reddit cant answer the above for you but I can answer it for me because I know what the standard is for my tires.

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SoulOfTheDragon@reddit

Kind of interesting on how the cords is showing with still visible grooves. Anyhow, that worn would be flagged to be replaced during next weekly. With cord showing, during next longer turn around / night.

On some military aircraft they actually have certain allowance for cord layers having worn trough, but that also makes them single use cycle unlike these commenrcial airline tyres that can go trough several rethreading cycles.

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Potential_Lawyer131@reddit

That tire has a few more landings before it shreds. With the way these airlines are operating they will get everything out of it before it explodes and cause and accident. Cough, cough, Delta… 😒

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MinuteConscious45@reddit

i would. I mean it’s not like the tire would pop 🤭

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RepairHorror1501@reddit

Are you concerned about being pulled over? I have 37 years in the airline industry as a LAME or B1/A&P if you prefer and still can't understand why pilots freak out at a bit of canvas. There is a shitload of ply's to get through before you reach nitrogen! Are you concerned about cornering? That's not what they are for, it's round and will hold braking.

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enataca@reddit

Yeah but this thing will hydroplane so easily on the highway

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Buc-eesGuy@reddit

It’s important to follow the racing line when taxiing.

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nightputting@reddit

My CFI has instructed me otherwise, despite me saying “tower told me no delay!”

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besidethewoods@reddit

Yeah but given the condition of the tire you are going to have a ton of understeer. I would box now for a new set of boots and try and use the fresh rubber to make up the lost time.

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ManonMacru@reddit

/r/formuladank is leaking

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stupefy100@reddit

Must be the water

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randy24681012@reddit

Oscar, Lando’s plane has a bald tire. Please shave down your tires it’s only fair.

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Bluevette1437@reddit

I’m gonna put Michelin Cup 2 Rs on a Cessna 150

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Puzzleheaded_Load_72@reddit

Gotta hit that apex

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motivatedtuna@reddit

was going to say the same thing. this tire is shitty but you got a few layers of cord before it’s completely fucked. that being said, it’s worth changing

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John_the_Piper@reddit

My concern was the cut more than the cords showing, tbh. If this was a walkaround at the end of the flight schedule for the day? Might as well toss a new one on. Otherwise I'd let it go and make sure there's a note for it to be checked at the next stop

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Mendo-D@reddit

This is basically the answer. You’re allowed 3 or 4 plies deep. I don’t think that slice is that deep though.

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John_the_Piper@reddit

At the end of the day, if everything is good according to the book, it's good, and I'll argue it all day long. I remember checking some sketchy looking tires when I was an Super Hornet mechanic, and having to back up my junior sailors whenever someone tried second guessing their call on the flight line. Don't care if it's ugly looking if it's within wear/leak/damage limits. Send it.

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MaterialInevitable83@reddit

Would be regular air in this case, right? Or does that depend on the operator

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Legs11@reddit

Always nitrogen. Nitrogen is inert, which is handy in the case of really overheated brakes and tyres, and it doesnt change as much volume-wise when it heats up.

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More_Card_8147@reddit

Dry air is (usually) acceptable if you don't have nitrogen.

The biggest factor for thermal expansion is the water content of the gas mixture, not the 19% oxygen of dry air.

Another concern is potential corrosion if you air up in Guam, where it's hot and humid as hell all the time and then fly to say Fairbanks I'm the winter where it's cold as shit and the water condenses.

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spectrumero@reddit

I can't tell what kind of aircraft this is from the photo, but if it's light GA, it'll be plain old air.

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TheRealDeoan@reddit

Well mostly

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Any_Day_4467@reddit

It's okay, it comes out as soon as the third linen is visible.

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Weasil24@reddit

If they are all doing it have you ever considered there’s a reason? You ever had a tire explode on you while landing? I have. We are not concerned about cornering we are concerned about a high speed rejected takeoff maneuver followed by a tire separation and loss of control event. I had ruptured once and pieces of it ripped through the wing. You know whats in the wing? Did you ever see the footage of the concord on fire? Pilots are not freaking out. They are doing what they are trained to do which is reporting tire damage or imperfections to maintenance so someone qualified can tell is if its ok to fly. We are not mechanics. Our manuals have some guidance as to whats allowable and it says if in doubt write it up.

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polarisdelta@reddit

If they are all doing it have you ever considered there’s a reason?

Yes, when I walk into the aircraft before the pilots know I'm there I hear stuff like "man I hope they don't have one and I can go home" and "do you think we can make it back in time to watch the game?"

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Ecthelion-O-Fountain@reddit

Threads showing are fine, but I would call you for this because I don’t know if the slice is ok.

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ocasis@reddit (OP)

Even if it goes all the way through you got a second tire!

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mtfreestyler@reddit

We can do 3 sectors to get home on our MEL

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RestaurantFamous2399@reddit

Agreed, it's got a skid or two left on it!

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hammster33@reddit

Race car tires. It's fine. Makes taxiing more speedy

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Rodzp@reddit

Aviation tires have something called Max Wear Limit, which is how many thread layers or can show before it's deemed unsafe to use. Some tires like most of the ones I use have a max wear limit of 4 threads. On the picture it seems only 1 thread is present, if MWL is more than 1 and it's not raining season, I'd say it's safe

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GrassachusettsOG@reddit

First we must know, are you an African or European swallow?

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ManufacturerThick961@reddit

Nope

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Molecular_Pudding@reddit

It depends. If I am at my base probably would call maintenance and wait for their input. If flying the return leg, it's probably fine to go (although not with loads near MTOW or MLW).

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Lolopfe1511@reddit

Yes prolly

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elkab0ng@reddit

If I’ve got my jump rig on and I’m just paying for altitude? You betcha.

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Airbus_HEMS_Pilot@reddit

Nice try Mr. FAA

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Valuable-Speaker-312@reddit

No way in hell would i fly with that tire.

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Square_Fee_6050@reddit

First layer of cord body… not an issue.. check the cut depth

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Fisherman_30@reddit

Nope. That tire is done.

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Square_Fee_6050@reddit

Yes

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sftwareguy@reddit

two words.. duct tape

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nobody8936@reddit

As long as the wings and engine are ok.. who cares? Tyres on planes aren’t that important.. they’re like little spinny Lego wheels that just go for the ride.

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FormerAircraftMech@reddit

Needs to be changed, sure, but you're good till you get to a maintenance station

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Dangerous-School2958@reddit

From b what I can see, it would pass the criteria on a Buff.

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HammerOfSledge@reddit

What’s the MWL? Says on the side of the tire. Our 16s have 9s mostly. We let them go until 6th cord visible.

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AlphaThree@reddit

This. All these people saying this is a bad tire have clearly never evaluated a tire. Maybe these little guys have different limits but on heavies we were allowed to go to at least the 4th fabric layer or 12 continuous inches of no visible tread. This tire has tread all the way around, its not even close. Gouge limits were always comical. In 10 years of maintenance not one time did I ever encounter a cut or gouge that was out of limit.

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Jet_Fixxxer@reddit

How many landings and what's the CMM say about cord showing?

My military days you're good until.3 cords showing. That was for a 32 ply.

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Senior_Lock1016@reddit

Yeah, put some grease from the gear on the visible thread and it's fine for mainbase

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Used_Lawyer_7410@reddit

If you’re asking, its probably not the best idea.

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someguyinaplace@reddit

At least once I would.

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whitecollarpizzaman@reddit

I had to double check I wasn’t on the trucking subreddit for a second.

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Clark_W_Griswold-Jr@reddit

I believe you know the answer to this, but you want someone to tell you it’s okay because you want to fly anyway.

If cords are showing in a tire it’s time to replace them. That tire has seen hundreds of landings, you’ve gotten your moneys worth out of that one. In an emergency I’d be willing to fly on it, but in that moment that’s a necessary risk I’d be willing to take.

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fountainsofvarnoth@reddit

Depends on the airplane. Am I concerned about it blowing out? No. I’m concerned more about traction on a contaminated runway in a heavy, high performance aircraft.

On a piston single? I’d take it flying

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JamesMcGillEsq@reddit

Outstation last leg day 4?

We are going.

Day 1 in a base?

Ain't a chance in hell.

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Cool-Contribution292@reddit

Pffft… 🤣🤣

T38 Crew Chiefs

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Major_Employ_1971@reddit

Nope cord showing. Bad idea!

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brealytrent@reddit

Depends. I'd it's a strike eagle, send it. If it's a Cessna 150, probably not.

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threemilesfinal@reddit

Depends on what it's on. Something like a King Air, send it but change at earliest possibility. Something with a higher landing speed like a 737, I'd prefer to change it.

As a Line Maintenance guy, showing cord is good enough to replace it if you have time.

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pdp_8@reddit

Saw this on the nose gear of the Tu-154 I was about to board in Rostov-na-Donu headed for Moscow back in the 1980s (yes, O.G. Aeroflot was every bit as terrifying as rumors would have it). Sure enough, soon as the nose gear touched one of those tires blew and I got to enjoy the skills of a highly-trained Soviet pilot as he kept the wings level and the airplane somewhere in the vicinity of centerline at landing speed.

The scissor-lift bus things they sent out for us on the taxiway were pretty cool though.

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saml01@reddit

Looks like a pretty beefy landing gear which makes me think its not a trainer. So I would say no.

I would say no regardless, this is one of those situations where you get a flat and end up being the one paying for it.

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poppacappo@reddit

Flying yes. Taxiing, taking off and landing, no!

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Mechanic_Stephan@reddit

Fuck no to the no no no

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HurkertheLurker@reddit

Only if it was a short trip.

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satapotatoharddrive4@reddit

Would hate to have to pull over mid trip and get out the spare.

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HurkertheLurker@reddit

And no one wants that!

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iDiotOn2wheels@reddit

Erm… what?

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HurkertheLurker@reddit

Stand to reason it’ll wear out quicker in a long journey. Can’t argue with physics.

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OldCarry4838@reddit

I hope this is sarcasm, but these days I can never be sure ...

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Numb_Nut34@reddit

What does the MM say? If it’s out of limits, then you legally can’t. No cowboy shit

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Competitive_Bird4195@reddit

Sure. It's not even showing any cords. That tire has a lot of life left.

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totesuncommon@reddit

Used airliner tires are repurposed for use in boat travelifts. The ones in my marina all have more tread than this.

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Silmarlion@reddit

Write it in the book as “tire needs to checked” maintenance comes and measures. If it is okay they let you go if it is not they change the tire.

Company might pressure everyone to keep the operation going but when it is written and has to be signed off very rarely anyone takes the risk.

I wrote down a paint damage on the fan blade in an out station at Africa. They spent 1 hour measuring the thing before letting it go. If i just said could you check if it is okay and didn’t write it down most likely they would say it is okay to fly and let it get fixed at home base.

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KMD59@reddit

Nope

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AlphaThree@reddit

Heavy crew chief for 10 years. I'd measure just to be sure but the gouge looks within limits to me, as does the exposed fabric. I would write the depth of the gouge and the length of the exposed cord on the sidewall in chalk so passing QA or the pilots know it was checked.

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punkslaot@reddit

Its depends how deep it is and if it's going through the ply at all. There are guidelines for when you can and can't take this flying.

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Pat0san@reddit

And I really freak when I see people check the depth with a screwdriver….

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BackgroundGrade@reddit

That one is from the famed Italian tire company Baldini.

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sargentmyself@reddit

No, one patch of piles, sure, one cut like that, maybe. Two patches and a cut? Just change it, it don't take that long.

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Skyremmer102@reddit

I'd replace it personally. Especially with the massive gash in it.

The manual will tell you more.

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Street-Outside6528@reddit

Write it yo pussy

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elwood199@reddit

It’s bottom of any tread, exposed cord, and bulges, cuts?

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Feeling_Title_9287@reddit

Exposed wires=no fly

Get those replaced immediately

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C152-Captain@reddit

Our pilots would reject that

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USCAV19D@reddit

Yes

Because I fly a helicopter.

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Sweet-Composer2899@reddit

Sure if you stay in the air forever

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Big_Significance_775@reddit

LFG

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Lady_Speedbird@reddit

No

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jftm999@reddit

You can take off and land with this cut. If by chance you see the color white color underneath, that's when you need to call maintenance to check.

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akroses161@reddit

7/32 averaged across 3spots? No cord showing? AMM says youre good.

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12358132134@reddit

Yes, but the tire should be replaced soon.

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ArchiStanton@reddit

10 landings or first explosion whichever is first

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TheDave78@reddit

No.

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TaskMastered92@reddit

Def not. Tire is showing cord. That’s a no go item. Looks like MX is doing a tire change on a turn. At least it’s not winter time and 17 degrees outside.

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Neat_Diamond_8553@reddit

Sell it to spirit airlines and be done with it

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jdelaossa@reddit

Nope!! Treads are exposed… that tire and the one next to it should be replaced

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Neat_Diamond_8553@reddit

If you would have rolled the tire in rubber cement and a long section of pea gravel you’d have a Carolina winter recap

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Exciting-Zombie8449@reddit

Flying? Absolutely. Landing? Not so much.

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BlatirA@reddit

A tire doesn't fly, it rolls

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ComputerSaysNo2025@reddit

You don’t need tires to fly.

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Dry-Ticket999@reddit

Need them to land?

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High_AspectRatio@reddit

You don't really need anything to land tbh. Taking off again, that's a different story

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Dry-Ticket999@reddit

Well, clearly if you want to land and taxi safely you kind of need them. If a belly landing and trashing plane is your style, then have at it. I tend to like to be able to taxi to my parking spot after landing. Call me crazy

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High_AspectRatio@reddit

Just a joke my guy

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Dry-Ticket999@reddit

I got it.

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Competitive-Way-1577@reddit

Nope, treads are visible. Not recommended at all.

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Lharper3rd@reddit

Usually okay if not into the second ply of the tire and if the cut is not deep; check the AMM. However it should be changed precautionary.

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StartingToLoveIMSA@reddit

No problem flying….getting on the ground, maybe…

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MarkoPCoaltrain68@reddit

Yes. Each tire type have a rating with usually 2-3 cord layer allowed to be showing.

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sneijder@reddit

I’ve seen a Saudi B767 (…I think B767) agree to depart with cords showing.

PIC looked confused when it was highlighted (might have been his landing …)

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SubarcticFarmer@reddit

There are standards in the manuals for what can show. There are limitations but some cord can show for airliners, but they are limited to a set number of landings then replaced.

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PrettyPromenade@reddit

Is landing life or death? Because you're about to make it so.

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mtblack412@reddit

Send it! It’s got one more left in it.

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al3xand3rslad3r@reddit

Those cords are barely showing. Get in the plane and go -Ops probably

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Erilik@reddit

It’s boing it can be released for flight

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Shteygosawroose@reddit

Yeah I would!

I wouldn't take it landing though.

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MeBollasDellero@reddit

Would you let your wife and kids leave the house with a car tire like that?

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ThewayoftheAj@reddit

r/tiresaretheenemy

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VariableFunction@reddit

If we can rotate the flaps and stabilizer for more downforce, sure why not.

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5th-timearound@reddit

It’s a little heavy, might have to check that one out

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nikola312@reddit

Definitely better than no tire. So, send it. Hopefully this got sent to maintenance personnel and not just Reddit. But it’s fine, get it replaced at the next opportunity.

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homeinthesky@reddit

I can see the write up my maintenance would issue word for word… “tire deferred 10 landings”

That’s airline world though. Have a talk with maintenance, I wouldn’t do pattern work where I’m pounding landing after landing, but a cross country with 1-2 landings on dry runway in the GA environment I’d not think too hard against it.

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CPTMotrin@reddit

That looks like there is a cut to the secondary bias ply thread. Yes, it’s part of a dual gear, but I wouldn’t push my luck.

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kytulu@reddit

If this was a plane at my flight school, we would replace the tire.

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Digiee-fosho@reddit

The only reason I would board that aircraft is to tell everyone that its grounded until the tire is replaced

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FlyingHigh67@reddit

Yes, it’s fine.

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bikingfury@reddit

You just have to touch down very softly and pre spin the wheels.

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7stroke@reddit

As long as she holds together until V1

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yt1300pilot@reddit

Flying yes, taking off and landing, no.

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jimflys@reddit

“If you have to ask, replace it”.

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CarGullible5691@reddit

Absolutely not.

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wggn@reddit

you can land it at least once

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Wonderful_Weather116@reddit

That looks like a double bogie on a large aircraft. If it was a single engine piston sure but on a larger aircraft which that looks like especially with what appears to be a gravel kit definitely not. One pointy rock and there goes your air pressure.

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allstcrs@reddit

lucky pebble? what am i looking at here

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bizzlej278@reddit

Depends if it would fit in your hand luggage?

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MEINSHNAKE@reddit

Depends if I’m at a maintenance base or somewhere with a good hotel… I’d take this home if maintenance told me it was good for one leg and the crosswinds weren’t too gnarly.

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Godess_Ilias@reddit

all planes land eventually

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Trance2536@reddit

Showing cord yes. In my world if I try to let that go, they will touch down with brakes next flight, then we will have to buy a wheel and tire lol

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StPauliBoi@reddit

Yes

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TiredTraveler87@reddit

Is this r/Shittyaskflying?

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hexaddress@reddit

I'd fly it, but I would also give it a close look on every preflight, and add it to the maintenance list.

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sunshinedave@reddit

Chord showing - we’d be changing that all day long.

If it’s Downroute with no Mx, I understand a pilot may use their discretion to get it back, but it’s out of AMM limits so it’s getting changed as soon as they sign that tech log back to us.

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Strict_Lettuce3233@reddit

I like how they gouged it to see how much tread is left. Well Mac we have another 30 flights left in her . Those tires are tough as all heck.

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Greg-stardotstar@reddit

That wheel needs to be retyred.

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Av8Xx@reddit

The correct answer is what does the manual say? But I wouldn’t be concerned if that was on my plane. The steel reinforcing ply is the one you need to be concerned with. Not because safety but because they won’t be able to retread the tire.

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