Every place is good or every place is bad depending on how you look at it. Sadly enough anon chooses to view the US (where his home base (his parent’s basement)) as a shithole while idealizing where he has never been.
Euros also have healthcare, childcare, and strong privacy laws. Unfortunately UK is trying to make gooners show their IDs to look at tiddies which is r-worded
I don’t know what makes me more angry: this guy not knowing what Europe is like, or all the comments here correcting him and telling what Europe ís like..
You are treating a continent with 24 official languages an religious differences as a single place. You are all just as bad as anon.
I spent my whole childhood Living in one of the smaller paradise cities in Southern California until I went into the navy at 18. We only vacationed in cities that were on par with it or better. I never realized how fucking bad it is everywhere else. I went to Maryland first and immediately regretted stepping foot out of Santa Barbara. I’ve been back ever since I discharged. I’ll be moving to Europe as soon as my kids are grown.
Europe is only a better place to live for people who are below middle class. Americans who are in high skill sectors truly have no idea how much better they have it.
Here’s a few examples of what doing well for yourself would earn you in the UK:
Chemical engineers make like £50k-ish and that is considered a great salary over here despite cost of living being roughly similar to the US.
Software engineers make about the same - £40k-£50k or thereabouts. Again, seen as living the dream (so don’t you dare complain you spoiled ungrateful snob).
Literal brain surgeons earn less than £100k
Lawyers make around £40k-£50k
Astrophysics make £40k
Investment bankers earn perhaps £70k-£80k at the high ends.
No matter what you do or achieve in the UK, you’ll almost always be trapped with a salary in between £40k-£60k. Damn near impossible to escape unless you straight up start a successful company. Oh and you’ll be paying half of your salary in tax and your house will be one third of the size an equally expensive one would cost in the US. Fun!
cities are beautiful
no longer after engineers invasion;
maybe in east europe;
beautiful women, 1 chubby girl
lol no, lots of fat pigs everywhere;
people value family and tradition
maybe, probably depends;
services amazing and god tier
what? where?
eu goverments run everything perfectly, no lobbying
are we still talking about same eu? eu tries to frik up citizens all the time, bullies countries with taking away donations, rarely does anything against corporations (but yeah, sometimes it does);
great communities and great families
probably depends
animals are treated very well no torture
what? it happens everywhere
3 months vacation
where?
no place is better
if you look at any country west from germany, including germany, it's already engineer slop that's more dangerous than chicago
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Lol. Just last week, the "Chat Control" initiative that would dictate the existence of a backdoor in every encrypted messenger was barely blocked.
Who are the initiators of such an initiative? It's confidential LMAO because no one deserves privacy except the people who are trying to take privacy from you
If you’re capable of making money you’re best off living in the US and vacationing in Europe, beautiful place.
If you’re poor there’s no good Europoor country that will take you, and you might as well pitch a tent in San Francisco or Hawaii and live off the government.
I'd rather be poor in Europe. Sitting in the sun drinking €1 wine in a falling down 1000yr old farm? Not so bad.
I'd rather be middle class in Europe. Govt. Gives childcare, medical, I get my cheap French car, 4 weeks off, no "medical debt" (wtf), two holidays a year to other European countries.
And honestly, despite the taxes I'd rather be rich in Europe, driving around the med, skiing in the Alps, yachts and côté d'azur.
It's as good as it gets. Not perfect. But as good as it gets.
While our quality of life is great, American nature is next level compared to Europe. The rocky mountains are insane.
Living in Europe and having done a road trip through the USA, we really do not win this. They just have an insane amount of large biomes with amazing uniqueness and variation.
I really love road trips so I know what I'm talking about.
? They're nature and sights arent as good as the whole of Europe at all. Maybe individual nations. But considering you can drive from the north of Switzerland down to the bottom of Spain, and that's ignoring the whole east side of the eu, there is so much more to see naturally, and untold more culturally
But considering you can drive from the north of Switzerland down to the bottom of Spain
Yeah I've done that, some parts often.
Nothing compares to what I saw in the USA west coast, DAILY
And what does this prove? I didn't say Europe is ugly. USA just has way more variation and extreme landscapes.
Some USA nationanal Parks are bigger than Switzerland, you know that right?
How many settlements, industries and farming industries do you pass from Switzerland to south Spain?
Now in the USA, you can drive for several hours without anything. Just pure rugged landscape. And it changes often.
All people I know that love to travel like me and love nature/landscapes agree without hesitation that the USA was one of not the best trip for that purpose. What's your source? Did you even visit west coast USA?
Yes, there are interesting spots, but finding adventure, wilderness and remote places in Europe is nearly impossible. The continent is so densely populated that you're always near civilization.
The only places that come somewhat close, are the Nordic countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland). But it's still not the same.
seems like anon has never been to china. it’s cheap and really good. i’m no health expert but rice and vegetables along the meat are much healthier than fries and soda along the “meat” you have in the US, not to mention how portions are at least 50% smaller lmao
This is an aberration in history. It was warring death hellhole for centuries and their demographic issues combined with mass migration of an incompatible culture/religion will make it a hellhole again in a couple decades
Without the US protecting them militarily and diplomatically they dont have the luxuries of today. Even in this “heaven” no native euros want to have kids
Most EU countries have about the same fertility level as the US. And wow, 1 million Syrians are surely making Germany a hellhole with a population of 82 million.
So youre admitting generous fertility social programs do nothing to help increase births? Then the US is smart by not funding them, it would be a waste of money
Imagine thinking it’s only 1 million lol and only Syrians lol. You must never go outside or travel to think it’s not a problem. AfD went from a fringe pariah to a main player in politics, I wander if the roving bands of young third world men has anything to do with it
Spending money to make your citizens lives easier is a waste of money, okay.
I don't think the rise of the far right has much to do with migration, they are just the perfect scapegoat. Afd is the strongest in rural areas which have no migrants and weak in big cities where there are many migrants, I wonder why.
But look at Orbán, he has been campaigning against migrants from the start when noone wanted to immigrate to fucking Hungary of all places. And then he brought in a bajillion Chinese and Vietnamese and Bangladeshi and whatnot because they work cheaper in the factories, a bit hypocritical if you ask me.
But it hasnt spurred fertility so it hasn’t helped the citizens, you cant refute my point that native Europeans dont want kids even with job protections and money. You literally cant pay them to have kids
AfD is strongest in areas with no immigration, its because they dont want immigrants lol. Pro-migrant parties are popular in cities where the non natives live, why is that a shock to you?
Also Orban isnt german or western European lol, why did you bring him up? He’s not with nato or the western alliance and the US hates him. He is a putin stooge
You misunderstood, I didn't say it raised fertility rates, but it helps the people who have kids. That's the point of a government generally among other things, to help their citizens.
No, Afd is strong in rural areas where migrants don't want to go anyway because they are poor and have no jobs etc, it's not because Afd miraculously kept them away. The slow death of rural areas is a major contributor everywhere to rightwing sentiments, Hungary, Poland, Germany, US you name it.
I thought we were talking about the EU in general, and Orbán was among the first succesful populist rightwing guys in the EU and is a model for other rightwing dudes. Also the Afd and the european rightwing in general is a putin stooge lol, so idk how that matters.
Then why does the EU send a diplomatic mission to DC whenever trump threatens ukraine aid. Why arent their militaries strong enough to supply ukraine themselves?
Because this is about protecting Ukraine and not protecting the current European way of life. Entirely different situation because UA is in an active war and more than just EU aid is necessary to defeat the Russians out. Obviously aid is a fraction of EU arms, their not giving their entire armies away. You're getting mixed up
I'm an average man who's lived in both places, and europe is the better place to live at the moment. Fairly similar to the US, but cheaper overall. Much better treatment in the workplace.
Various-Molasses-722@reddit
Every place is good or every place is bad depending on how you look at it. Sadly enough anon chooses to view the US (where his home base (his parent’s basement)) as a shithole while idealizing where he has never been.
wordjedi@reddit
Euros also have healthcare, childcare, and strong privacy laws. Unfortunately UK is trying to make gooners show their IDs to look at tiddies which is r-worded
buggsbunnysgarage@reddit
I don’t know what makes me more angry: this guy not knowing what Europe is like, or all the comments here correcting him and telling what Europe ís like..
You are treating a continent with 24 official languages an religious differences as a single place. You are all just as bad as anon.
Substantial_Part_463@reddit
Anon go tell an American Farmer he feeds onions to animals...see what happens to your anus.
Cute-Conflict835@reddit
This was written by an indian
ghillieinthemist417@reddit
I spent my whole childhood Living in one of the smaller paradise cities in Southern California until I went into the navy at 18. We only vacationed in cities that were on par with it or better. I never realized how fucking bad it is everywhere else. I went to Maryland first and immediately regretted stepping foot out of Santa Barbara. I’ve been back ever since I discharged. I’ll be moving to Europe as soon as my kids are grown.
Impressive-Morning76@reddit
Fake and Gay, US is best country cause Red 40.
Provia100F@reddit
Europeans make like 1/5th of what we make in America. They're called europoors for an actual reason.
234RK@reddit
I was with him for the first part
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drunkpostin@reddit
Europe is only a better place to live for people who are below middle class. Americans who are in high skill sectors truly have no idea how much better they have it.
Here’s a few examples of what doing well for yourself would earn you in the UK:
No matter what you do or achieve in the UK, you’ll almost always be trapped with a salary in between £40k-£60k. Damn near impossible to escape unless you straight up start a successful company. Oh and you’ll be paying half of your salary in tax and your house will be one third of the size an equally expensive one would cost in the US. Fun!
basilisk_boi2@reddit
JOSE CAN YOU SEE
AT MY DIABETES
-mikuuu-@reddit
"all women are fat" bullshit
Capital_Pick3604@reddit
One of my best goons came from American girls anon just lieing
8hAheWMxqz@reddit
Reading_username@reddit
Swiss rail, that's about it tbh
gjb94@reddit
If this post was from about 30 years ago it'd be right on the money
8hAheWMxqz@reddit
yeah that's pretty on spot
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
Looks like someone actually live and works in europe.
Skeet_fighter@reddit
Idk if I've ever seen a post more obviously written by somebody who's never been to Europe in their life
Capital_Pick3604@reddit
100% "sar plas redeam" energy
THATsyracusefan@reddit
lol i was thinking the same thing. the nod to china / india is very telling
JustABigBruhMoment@reddit
Pakistanon thought he was being clever
Nexxus3000@reddit
um yes operator id like to submit for one hour of cuckold porn to my address at 10pm tonight. oh you don’t have a slot until 11? very well, here’s my identification and credit card
buddy-bubble@reddit
UK is not EU 😤
FrazzleFlib@reddit
blud is a true remainer
thermitethrowaway@reddit
The UK left the EU, BREXIT MEANS BREXIT you metropolitan elite wanker, you lost, get over it.
maxxim333@reddit
"no lobbying"
Lol. Just last week, the "Chat Control" initiative that would dictate the existence of a backdoor in every encrypted messenger was barely blocked.
Who are the initiators of such an initiative? It's confidential LMAO because no one deserves privacy except the people who are trying to take privacy from you
jackedcatman@reddit
If you’re capable of making money you’re best off living in the US and vacationing in Europe, beautiful place.
If you’re poor there’s no good Europoor country that will take you, and you might as well pitch a tent in San Francisco or Hawaii and live off the government.
jaminbob@reddit
I'd rather be poor in Europe. Sitting in the sun drinking €1 wine in a falling down 1000yr old farm? Not so bad.
I'd rather be middle class in Europe. Govt. Gives childcare, medical, I get my cheap French car, 4 weeks off, no "medical debt" (wtf), two holidays a year to other European countries.
And honestly, despite the taxes I'd rather be rich in Europe, driving around the med, skiing in the Alps, yachts and côté d'azur.
It's as good as it gets. Not perfect. But as good as it gets.
Rokovar@reddit
While our quality of life is great, American nature is next level compared to Europe. The rocky mountains are insane.
Living in Europe and having done a road trip through the USA, we really do not win this. They just have an insane amount of large biomes with amazing uniqueness and variation.
I really love road trips so I know what I'm talking about.
boomanu@reddit
? They're nature and sights arent as good as the whole of Europe at all. Maybe individual nations. But considering you can drive from the north of Switzerland down to the bottom of Spain, and that's ignoring the whole east side of the eu, there is so much more to see naturally, and untold more culturally
Rokovar@reddit
Yeah I've done that, some parts often.
Nothing compares to what I saw in the USA west coast, DAILY
And what does this prove? I didn't say Europe is ugly. USA just has way more variation and extreme landscapes.
Some USA nationanal Parks are bigger than Switzerland, you know that right?
How many settlements, industries and farming industries do you pass from Switzerland to south Spain?
Now in the USA, you can drive for several hours without anything. Just pure rugged landscape. And it changes often.
All people I know that love to travel like me and love nature/landscapes agree without hesitation that the USA was one of not the best trip for that purpose. What's your source? Did you even visit west coast USA?
Europe isn't always better you know...
cookie_n_icecream@reddit
Yes, there are interesting spots, but finding adventure, wilderness and remote places in Europe is nearly impossible. The continent is so densely populated that you're always near civilization.
The only places that come somewhat close, are the Nordic countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland). But it's still not the same.
Hajydit@reddit
Poland gladly welcomes any western refugees.
kpingvin@reddit
Sergei speaks good English
amazegamer64@reddit
“Value family and tradition” no they don’t. Half of the things on this list are only true in parts of the continent anyway
YanLibra66@reddit
They are more than ever willing to throw everything OP listed under the bus lol
Bratizcka@reddit
Delusional take
ForumsDwelling@reddit
Europe is so beautiful 😍
-F0v3r-@reddit
>food on par with china
seems like anon has never been to china. it’s cheap and really good. i’m no health expert but rice and vegetables along the meat are much healthier than fries and soda along the “meat” you have in the US, not to mention how portions are at least 50% smaller lmao
Varixx95__@reddit
While Spain is a corrupt shithole run by clowns we have all of the things mentioned above and siesta and tapas so yeah Europe truly is heaven
StevesHair1212@reddit
This is an aberration in history. It was warring death hellhole for centuries and their demographic issues combined with mass migration of an incompatible culture/religion will make it a hellhole again in a couple decades
Without the US protecting them militarily and diplomatically they dont have the luxuries of today. Even in this “heaven” no native euros want to have kids
SpottedWobbegong@reddit
Most EU countries have about the same fertility level as the US. And wow, 1 million Syrians are surely making Germany a hellhole with a population of 82 million.
StevesHair1212@reddit
So youre admitting generous fertility social programs do nothing to help increase births? Then the US is smart by not funding them, it would be a waste of money
Imagine thinking it’s only 1 million lol and only Syrians lol. You must never go outside or travel to think it’s not a problem. AfD went from a fringe pariah to a main player in politics, I wander if the roving bands of young third world men has anything to do with it
SpottedWobbegong@reddit
Spending money to make your citizens lives easier is a waste of money, okay.
I don't think the rise of the far right has much to do with migration, they are just the perfect scapegoat. Afd is the strongest in rural areas which have no migrants and weak in big cities where there are many migrants, I wonder why.
But look at Orbán, he has been campaigning against migrants from the start when noone wanted to immigrate to fucking Hungary of all places. And then he brought in a bajillion Chinese and Vietnamese and Bangladeshi and whatnot because they work cheaper in the factories, a bit hypocritical if you ask me.
StevesHair1212@reddit
But it hasnt spurred fertility so it hasn’t helped the citizens, you cant refute my point that native Europeans dont want kids even with job protections and money. You literally cant pay them to have kids
AfD is strongest in areas with no immigration, its because they dont want immigrants lol. Pro-migrant parties are popular in cities where the non natives live, why is that a shock to you?
Also Orban isnt german or western European lol, why did you bring him up? He’s not with nato or the western alliance and the US hates him. He is a putin stooge
SpottedWobbegong@reddit
You misunderstood, I didn't say it raised fertility rates, but it helps the people who have kids. That's the point of a government generally among other things, to help their citizens.
No, Afd is strong in rural areas where migrants don't want to go anyway because they are poor and have no jobs etc, it's not because Afd miraculously kept them away. The slow death of rural areas is a major contributor everywhere to rightwing sentiments, Hungary, Poland, Germany, US you name it.
I thought we were talking about the EU in general, and Orbán was among the first succesful populist rightwing guys in the EU and is a model for other rightwing dudes. Also the Afd and the european rightwing in general is a putin stooge lol, so idk how that matters.
ByteWhisperer@reddit
The mere fact that these Syrians are in Germany is treason of the highest degree to the native population.
solwaj@reddit
Common error
StevesHair1212@reddit
Then why does the EU send a diplomatic mission to DC whenever trump threatens ukraine aid. Why arent their militaries strong enough to supply ukraine themselves?
solwaj@reddit
Because this is about protecting Ukraine and not protecting the current European way of life. Entirely different situation because UA is in an active war and more than just EU aid is necessary to defeat the Russians out. Obviously aid is a fraction of EU arms, their not giving their entire armies away. You're getting mixed up
Q_dawgg@reddit
“It’s just bait. I’m not going to fall for it this time.”
n_lens@reddit
I dont know bro sounds based and factual.
Sephh@reddit
Imma be honest with you lens...this is looking more Fake and Gay by the second 😂
n_lens@reddit
The US prez is basically a crypto scammer and running insider trading pump and dumps on the stock market. At this stage USA = banana republic.
Sephh@reddit
I agree! I live in Europe...it doesn't matter its all part of the big circus anyways 🤓
Fake - Americanon actually educated himself on Europe
Gay - hes really thinking about European men
levtikr@reddit
obv biased asf
SoupaMayo@reddit
Look, I would rather die than living in the USA like the next guy, but this is such an obvious bait
Foxhound220@reddit
I'd say China has better food standard than US.
Yes yes gutter oil, but at least the gutter oil isn't pumped full of chemicals even a chemist can't fully name.
g6c_@reddit
Jesus fucking christ, and you can fully name the shit in the gutter?
Foxhound220@reddit
I don't live in China. But in Canada we banned almost all US food import because of the shit they add into their food.
SmoothPimp85@reddit
It will only work on 4chan and similar sites.
Xenophon_@reddit
Animals are tortured across the world
Fil-is-Theo@reddit
As a European, I can confirm everything you said is true but only because Germany does all the dirty work for the rest of us.
Bigbootycoomer@reddit
Terrible bait that still works because Americans are so unbelievably dumb they will still fall for this and shill their country in the comments
douggie84@reddit
Air conditioning.
StormOfFatRichards@reddit
H1B cancelled fantasyposter
spiritofporn@reddit
Lmao, successful troll is successful.
Jang-Zee@reddit
Bait used to be believable.
StandardN02b@reddit
Go to the average haupbanhof that is full of lowlifes and pride flags and tell me they have any notion of how valuable their culture is.
FunnyRegret7876@reddit
I'm an average man who's lived in both places, and europe is the better place to live at the moment. Fairly similar to the US, but cheaper overall. Much better treatment in the workplace.
Knighty_Gentleman@reddit
It's not like big cities like Paris or Barcelona are a cesspool of crime right now; to name a few.
I'd rather live pretty much anywhere in the US rather than in the currently infested Eurozone.
CombinationCrazy1719@reddit
Straight and real.
Armored_Guardian@reddit
And live in a nanny state? Fuck that shit