Another trucker
Posted by GTown_84@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 56 comments
This happened 4 hours ago. Very sad. I70 near copper mountain.
Posted by GTown_84@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 56 comments
This happened 4 hours ago. Very sad. I70 near copper mountain.
JOliverScott@reddit
Wasn't properly trained for mountain driving but dispatched into mountains is my guess.
Pass_Me_That_Phone@reddit
This is my Biggest fear, I love driving. But out of the month I was trained I have no mountain driving experience, and I feel like at minimum that should be a requirement.
Redsoxdragon@reddit
Nickles worth of above from a side that's been doing this forever.
Practice stab braking. Going down hill, push the brake hard for a few seconds, then release for about 10. Keeps the brakes from overheating.
If you're in an automatic, shift to manual, turn on the jake brake and force the truck down a gear or 2. If it's a manual, same thing, but you don't have a shitty computer fighting you. Depending on the truck, the engine brakes are strongest at 1600+ rpm.
FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit
It's always harder to downshift while going in a manual, quite a few runaways have happened when someone tried to grab a lower gear, misses it, and starts panicking. I always tell people to pick a gear where you are confident the truck can come to a complete stop within 10 seconds of hard braking, pick it at the top of the hill and never touch your shifter again unless you are at a full stop or you're off the hill.
Newer autos have way more wiggle room imo, my full disk brake truck and trailer stops painfully quick for something that size, even downhill, you'd have to genuinely be an idiot of immeasurable proportions to fuck up on one of those.
indZee@reddit
I've learned. Whatever gear you go up in is what you should go down in and even lower. So your not trying to find a gear and using breaks so much.
Engine/Jake break is your best friend. And fuck all the cars getting upset for you going slow. Worth it.
Ich_mag_Kartoffeln@reddit
You can go down a steep hill too slowly as many times as you like. You can only go down it too fast once.
bones_1775@reddit
And don't worry about the assholes behind you that ride your ass. Their lack of patience isn't your problem. Go as slow as you feel safe.
Troubador222@reddit
It’s easier to start down a mountain slow and keep it slow, than it is to slow down if you go too fast.
csimonson@reddit
Its not terribly difficult. Use the jake on full, try to keep it in a gear where the jake keeps the speed. Practice stab braking. Pay attention to declines and curve speed warnings
Intelligent-Site7686@reddit
This is it... control speed at level you feel safe with and use service brakes as little as possible. Slow down and hit engine brake before descent, stab brake when needed, Slow down before cornering. The key is moderating your speed on the descent. The heavier your load the more methodical you need to be about controlling speed. Pay attention to signs and don't ride the brakes, the engine brake is your best friend
StickDroid2178@reddit
I used to load that into trailers in central Illinois for 12 hours a day. He was definitely very close to 80,000 lbs. I had that down to a science. One time the driver went over our scale and they said he was 6,000 lbs over gross and I said impossible! Turns out he drove through freezing rain and the trailer had all that weight in ice on the roof and sides.
FloppyTacoflaps@reddit
Your absolutely no where near correct. This is the dumbest comment I think I've ever read. Lol 6000lbs of water is 720 U.S. gallons of water occupy a volume of approximately 96.25 cubic feet, or 2.72 cubic meters. Thats more space then the entire inside of a deluxe sleeper truck. What you claim is mathematically impossible.
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
What's the proper way to take 70 West CO in an automatic at 35mph limit with over 30K in trailer?
It's a challenge to be at 35mph without smoking the brakes even with the jakes at level 3 the whole time. Do you also ride pass the white lines on the ridges with your passenger side tires?
jmzstl@reddit
You need to start off at a slower speed in a lower gear if the jakes won’t hold you. Or your jakes are just fucked.
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
Is that how those push/pull lever on the steering used for? No one ever showed me how to manually switch gears in an automatic.
jmzstl@reddit
Generally you should be in the right gear by cresting the hill at the speed you’d like to go, and just adjust the jake setting as you descend if needed.
But yes, you can also use the right stock to manually shift gears. Play with it on level ground so you know which way is gear up/gear down. And when you do need to use it, there should be a toggle to put the truck in manual mode, which locks it to the gear you choose without letting the transmission automatically shift. On a Freightliner that toggle is on the end of the right stock.
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
Thanks for the ammo
Fullgasnobrakes@reddit
Is your jake control a stalk on the steering wheel? Up/down for off/1/2/3. Same stalk should move forward/back for down/up shift. You want as low of a gear as possible up to 2200 RPM max. Find the speed you can hold, start slow. Higher weight, lower speed needed to hold.
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
I know how to use Jake levels. But the push/pull is confusing and seem to make it worse so i leave it alone and rely on combo braking. I've done 70w past Denver only like 6X in my 4 yr career. Idk why it's harder. I used to haul produce from SoCal to Bronx many times with 44K through AZ canyons and PA mountains with no problems, but CO is weird.
HowlingWolven@reddit
Consider locking the box in manual and downshifting a bunch.
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
I'm in hometime now but I'll practice what you said when I get back out. Sounds useful. They don't teach this aspect in training. When I used to mess with it trying to figure it out, it seemed like I was shifting too soon and the rpm would suddenly jump to the redline/2200 and get angry loud. That's what got me discouraged from tinkering with it.
AcanthocephalaNew791@reddit
Set cruise to 25
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
Cruise doesn't go lower than 45
AcanthocephalaNew791@reddit
Then use manual mode and wish for the best
Adventurous_Let_1081@reddit
It's really not that hard. If you start hitting 40 mph you hut your brakes with significant pressure for 5 seconds. If that's a challenge then driving isn't for said person.
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
I fear burning up the brakes. I like only a 3 second pump with Jake combo. I can get it to ~ 45mph but I think 35 is asking too much. I've been lucky so far that no cop ever caught me going down 45-50. Id rather be over 10mph than risk burning the tires like I've seen many truckers on 70W of CO, 80 Doner Pass, & 24 Chattanooga...
Adventurous_Let_1081@reddit
Dudes are always hauling ass into Silverthorne, I'm surprised there aren't more accidents on that stretch of highway
DennisTheOppressed@reddit
My Cascadia has a downhill cruise feature. You put the transmission brake on, then set the cruise to 35 or whatever. Truck is designed to over rev if necessary to keep it at speed. I use it over Teton Pass every week - though I only weigh about 50k, it works well.
BlackAndChromePoem@reddit
My 2022 cascadia's cruise control doesnt even activate below 45moh
DennisTheOppressed@reddit
I've set mine as slow as 25 before.
Violet_Apathy@reddit
If you can't hold 35, go slower. It's a limit, not a maximum.
xNando559x@reddit
No name given!
darthgeek@reddit
Because not every culture has a first, middle and last name. Some have more, some have less. Don't be obtuse.
TripleTrucker@reddit
Now two adults and a child. Sad. https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/deadly-semi-crash-silverthorne-colorado-mountains-i70-closure/
sudrama@reddit
all trucker need to get out of the pay per mile crap and go into pay per hour...all the accidents during this time is because truckers don't make per load so they have to rush everything and try to make more loads to make ends meet. Glad i am paid houly now with union. They should keep track to see if all the accidents are drivers being paid by the load or by the hour....That should be done for that sake of everyone else
peffer32@reddit
I'll have to know his choice of footwear before I can comment further.
Chamber53@reddit
Let us hear it, give us your response for two scenarios. First scenario, they were wearing sandals. 2nd scenario, they’re white.
Aqueouspolecat@reddit
But I'm white and I wear sandals.
Ohhhhhh.... you mean
Timmy98789@reddit
What color are your sandals though!?!
KingNebyula@reddit
Same color as your panties
Timmy98789@reddit
Liar, you stole my last pair. Teehee
lazy_wafffle@reddit
he's wearing them now
Timmy98789@reddit
That dirty bastard. I stole them first.
Aqueouspolecat@reddit
The color of money my dear friend. ;)
Timmy98789@reddit
Mean and green!
lazy_wafffle@reddit
what does footwear got to do with it ?
Fullgasnobrakes@reddit
Westbound at MP 208 is west of the tunnel and east of Silverthorne. 6 mile downgrade with a speed limit of 35 MPH for 26k+ GVWR, and 2 runaway ramps on the way down within 5 miles of the top. Obviously the cause is unknown and anything could've happened, but the potential contributing factors are significant and commonly attributed to accidents in this exact location as well as Vail Pass.
KingNebyula@reddit
Reason number 1 while I would never team drive
GroucheeIndividual@reddit
This is the reason why I did it for 3 months only and got out of it.
KingNebyula@reddit
I voluntarily stopped training after 2 weeks because I couldn’t sleep with someone else driving, thank fuck my first company back in the day trusted me enough to do so
Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit
Getting killed hauling dog food
kloyoh@reddit
Why u gotta put it like that...
Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit
Because it just highlights how sad it is dying this way.
Likely under significant time pressure because of Nestle and their terrible supply chain practices. Probably driving to a Walmart where the unloader will not give a shit about their time, they're just dog food load number 42 on the day.
Bottom of the barrel dry van load, and they ate it.
GroucheeIndividual@reddit
Mega carriers is not where it’s at. No load is worth our lives. Our lives are more important than anything else because our families not only depend but rely on us too. Very tragic.
T4N60SUKK4@reddit
Let me get some of that kibble that shits expensive
Chamber53@reddit
Looks like there’s still little info on this one. Crashed and caught fire, all occupants announced dead at the scene. No other vehicles involved. But reports also suggest they have no clue how may were in the semi, leads me to assume it could’ve easily just been the driver. Also, the crash took place around 5.45a. Sleepy driver? Who knows, as of yet.