i7 13700f upgrade to i7 14700k
Posted by ReplacementGuilty744@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 15 comments
Hello, I got 32gb ddr4, i7 13700f, rtx 3080ti I mostly play pubg but sometimes in heavy areas on cities, i get drops to like 120-130 fps. I was thinking of upgrading my cpu to sth like i7 14700k. What do you think, will I get at least stable 200+ fps after that? Thank you
SelfSilly9478@reddit
Check your CPU’s short and long turbo power limits. On some motherboards with newer BIOS versions, the PL1 (long-term power limit) has been reduced to 65W. You can verify this in the BIOS or by using a hardware monitoring tool. I suggest setting both the short and long power limits to 150W. If the temperatures get too high, disable Hyper-Threading it offers no real benefit for gaming.
Federal-Bread-4168@reddit
Your problem is DDR4 memory, which severely limits this processor, I would recommend DDR% 7200mhz + an attempt to overclock this ram, UV the processor, after a good UV you will gain a large dose of performance, significantly lower temperatures and power consumption. In short, after UV it is as if you had a much better processor in every respect,
I know this is what it looks like because I have an i7 14700KF with UV done
ReplacementGuilty744@reddit (OP)
And what about non-k cpus having locked memory controller voltage to 3200-3400? Wouldn’t upgrading the ram to ddr5 7200 mhz be useless?
Federal-Bread-4168@reddit
The i7-13700F RAM controller voltages are not completely locked. Although the processor itself does not have an unlocked overclocking multiplier, the user can modify the voltages associated with the RAM controller via the motherboard's UEFI/BIOS. The motherboard has control over the voltage for the RAM, not the CPU itself,
which only has certain restrictions on this voltage.
The ram memory on the i7 13700f is not locked to 3200/3400mhz, whether you use ddr4/ddr5 depends on the motherboard, there are boards for ddr4 and ddr5, you can overclock the ram memory on the i7 13700f, ddr5 7200mhz vs ddr4 3200mhz will give you a very big jump in gaming performance if the graphics card will not block
ReplacementGuilty744@reddit (OP)
I mostly care about the 1% low stability, id like my 200fps to also be stable and not drop to 120 on intense moments
ReplacementGuilty744@reddit (OP)
Will i gain performance if i change my motherboard and upgrade my ddr4 to ddr5 7200mhz? Because I also mentioned, if i have xmp on, i have increase on performance(which means the menory is bottlenecking)
ReplacementGuilty744@reddit (OP)
Thanks a lot
dweller_12@reddit
They are the same silicon, so no you will see about the same performance just whatever few percentage points from the higher clock speed.
dabocx@reddit
It’s like a 5% difference at best. If you want that huge of a jump you’ll need to go with a 7800x3d or 9800x3d
SelfSilly9478@reddit
you may wanna upgrade to DDR5 too, 14600k paired with DDR5-7200 is roughly equivalent in gaming performance to 14900k on DDR4, games love fast memory and cache more than cores, though if you are on tuned samsung B die DDR4 upgrading just the processor could be enough.
14700k+DDR5 7200 vs 9800x3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqypOALtW8
aragorn18@reddit
Even at 720p with an RTX 4090, the 14700K is only about 2% faster than the 13700K. There's no way you're going to see a 50% improvement.
Your DDR4 memory is way more of a bottleneck than your CPU. DDR5 can be up to 20% faster than DDR4.
But, at the point that you're buying new RAM and a motherboard, you might as well go AM5.
ReplacementGuilty744@reddit (OP)
It’s a 13700f actually
winterkoalefant@reddit
13700F is almost the same as 13700K if both are given the same power limit
aragorn18@reddit
Very similar performance to the 13700K. A CPU upgrade isn't worth the money.
ReplacementGuilty744@reddit (OP)
But I get ur point, ive tried playing with xmp profile off/on and it makes a difference..so I also thing the memory is a bottleneck