Not interested until they import the model with the proper handguard. Same reason I wasn't interested in the Tavor SAR until they released the SAR IDF model.
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I really hope IWI doe snot discontinue these, they actually are great guns, if the after market gives better handguard options, these will be even better.
Yea that’s a legit question. Bren is a super sleeper. Amazing gun that doesn’t get a lot of credit for it. The Carmel is the same. I bought it because I scored a great deal on it a year ago. I got it more as a curiosity. Now that I have it and shot it a ton, I genuinely enjoy it. She thick tho.
Yeah I loved the ARX160 for what it was. People will poo poo polymer all day but modern materials are fine.
It definitely was a relic for that weird transition period prior to standardizing on attachment systems, but it was silly light.
For someone who wasn't a combat unit, but had to carry a rifle it was soooo much nicer than the 11 lb AK I had prior
No. If you go far enough back towards their original release on the US market, they were a little more than this. Not over $2k though. Not unless you were browsing once of the cvid price gougers.
Think this is the first time it’s akshually under $1k shipped ($980 OTD for states w/ no tax). L&L is $12 cheaper, but not sure it’s worth the potential 1 week wait (and they’re blacklisted).
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Not interested until they import the model with the proper handguard. Same reason I wasn't interested in the Tavor SAR until they released the SAR IDF model.
SuperMoistNugget@reddit
there is a guy who made the original handguard www.athosarms.com
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raifsevrence@reddit
This version definitely looks like the tactical tuna that fell off the short bus and got dragged for a few blocks before anybody noticed.
thickjim@reddit
I know when these are unavailable ill be kicking my self for not getting one just the like berretta
SuperMoistNugget@reddit
I really hope IWI doe snot discontinue these, they actually are great guns, if the after market gives better handguard options, these will be even better.
tylos57@reddit
This was my thought process back in the day with the acr.
DrScaryGuy@reddit
didn't want arx
saw arx on patrol in italy around monuments
needed an arx, but didn't want an arx
arx discontinued
arx sbr has appeared in safe
I'd like a 16" kit, but i'm not spending $1k+ on a barrel for that thing.
tameagang@reddit
My thoughts exactly. I never really wanted the ARX 160 or whatever, until I couldn't get one anymore.
tameagang@reddit
Are there any advantages to these over a regular AR or is it just a novelty?
scottiecrossfit@reddit
Side charging handle. Piston operated. Can run with stock folded. Has a foldable stock. Action stays remarkably clean even when running suppressed.
Maximum-Ad2278@reddit
Why this over a Bren 2?
SuperMoistNugget@reddit
given this price, price. I owned both and prefer the bren
scottiecrossfit@reddit
Yea that’s a legit question. Bren is a super sleeper. Amazing gun that doesn’t get a lot of credit for it. The Carmel is the same. I bought it because I scored a great deal on it a year ago. I got it more as a curiosity. Now that I have it and shot it a ton, I genuinely enjoy it. She thick tho.
raifsevrence@reddit
My understanding is that spare parts for the Brens are non existent or next to it.
When you add the significant price tag that puts it in line with a high end AR, that's not a recipe for commercial success.
johnhd@reddit
Bren 2 over this any day if you can only have one, it’s a battle-tested weapon currently in use in Ukraine.
I bought a Carmel earlier today and already have a Bren 2 fwiw.
specter491@reddit
So sort of like a spear LT but with a side charging handle
raifsevrence@reddit
With the benefit of not being made by sig and not costing 2x what it's actually worth.
Not that people are any more enthused about iwi these days.
Regardless this seems like a pretty good price. Only thing I'd be worried about is availability of parts.
scottiecrossfit@reddit
Closer to SCAR vibes but yea.
wlogan0402@reddit
Possibly the single bulkiest modern 556 rifle
SuperMoistNugget@reddit
its actually not so bad in hand, but side by side with an AR you will definitely notice it is just wider and more blocky in every way.
Enough-Surprise-321@reddit
Definitely completes with the arx160
vkbrian@reddit
ARX is at least lightweight. These things are pigs, especially for a 5.56 rifle.
Enough-Surprise-321@reddit
Yeah I loved the ARX160 for what it was. People will poo poo polymer all day but modern materials are fine.
It definitely was a relic for that weird transition period prior to standardizing on attachment systems, but it was silly light. For someone who wasn't a combat unit, but had to carry a rifle it was soooo much nicer than the 11 lb AK I had prior
bkfit@reddit
https://imgur.com/a/ELQ8N02
Been Liking mine for yrs.
Direct-Example@reddit
Same
Kamikazeoi@reddit
Same.
DanteMustDye@reddit
Do want
Positive-Dot4869@reddit
👌🏾
MattieHeighs@reddit
3 position has block is interesting. Weren’t these things upwards of 2 grand fairly recently?
raifsevrence@reddit
No. If you go far enough back towards their original release on the US market, they were a little more than this. Not over $2k though. Not unless you were browsing once of the cvid price gougers.
2xRC-P90@reddit
Mmm, carmel...
Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit
I hear they have a whole mountain of it, it truly is the holy land.
garn2@reddit
How is a polymer gun so frickin' heavy?
MrRecon@reddit
Added weight of sin
garn2@reddit
I just bought one anyway to support Israel.
MrRecon@reddit
I'm waiting for a used one with a bunch of half-sized tally marks etched into it
gassbro@reddit
The great noticing
garn2@reddit
There's always one of you in these threads 🤦
SuperSandLegend_47@reddit
Do these come with adult diapers?
TheFireOfPrometheus@reddit
Why not a bul armory 2011?
ColedIce@reddit
Such a good little goy
deathchilada@reddit
I thought they could only do that with a chicken?
stumpy1218@reddit
Jewish acr seems nifty especially at that price
DaSloBlade@reddit
Whoa...that really weighs 15 pounds?
Cobra__Commander@reddit
May it's kilograms instead of freedom units?
DrScaryGuy@reddit
as somebody who knows both measures, 15kg instead of lb is definitely not helping the situation
Cobra__Commander@reddit
Lol oops.
N64Seller@reddit (OP)
8lbs 2oz
Don't know where they're getting 15lbs
afuckingwheel@reddit
Stalker 2 gum
johnhd@reddit
Think this is the first time it’s akshually under $1k shipped ($980 OTD for states w/ no tax). L&L is $12 cheaper, but not sure it’s worth the potential 1 week wait (and they’re blacklisted).
CornellMustard@reddit
.
HighwayOk1660@reddit
These things launch brass far af,
TubeSockLover87@reddit
Vendor is gtg!
Tactical-SKS@reddit
$700 and I’ll consider it
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