Team morrale is very very low, people are literally chearing against our team due to political state in it. On stadium there are no real fans, Vucic was so scared that fans are going sing whole match against him and regime instead of Albania that he moved match from Belegrade and didnt let people attend and buy tickets, he gave all tickets to his loyalists.
Let's hope. Maybe we finally take on a positive identity in the world again. They should have been gone long ago. My favourite moment was when he went on TV to call for peace after the Nepal incident.
Vučićism is selling every bit of land and industry we have to the West and Chinese. He wanted a Trump hotel on a protected land ffs. Zaječar is becoming a mining city. Aka, soon to be Chinese owned. The list goes on and on and on and on
I support your team just cuz there wont be any stories about hope in our football to pass trough group phase and so on.
I wanter 0 3 but loss is enough
As they should. The regime has put so much politics into sport, that none of the players are even motivated to play - Football, Basketball, Volleyball, etc. i think this might be a way to protest. There's a reason this match is being played in Leskovac. Smaller chances they'll yell "Vučiću Pederu" and it's easier to control a smaller population. The people in the stands here are either families trying to watch football or regime placed imbeciles. I wish Albania the best of luck in the world cup. We'll be watching from home.
Losing to Albania never happened, because nobody gave a fuck about that game and the players didn't represent Serbia anyway. And even when Vučić's regime is over, it's not gonna make anyone recognize a Kosovo as an independent country aka Albania.
Fair but the eagle was used to represent greater albania ideology aswell as to provoke serbia in 2018 wc against switzerland, that's why it was banned.
I personally don't give a fuck about it, but it's really unnecessary.
now I understand how they brainwashed you. from the day I learned the double headed gesture it has never been for greater Albania, it has always been a way to demonstrate how proud we are about our flag.
what about it? is the double eagle in our flag placed to provoke Serbia or what? the double headed gesture was born and made famous by Albanian footballers celebrating their identity since we have never had big exposure and it was a way to represent all Albanians in the little moment they had when they scored. then it was adopted as a national gesture by everyone.
to make you understand how idiot your logic is, Albanians say the same thing about your 3 fingers gesture, is the son father and God a symbol about genocide?
and honestly if you get offended because of Kosovo, good. you keep calling for our death and burning our flag even in matches that do not concern Albania, you should be able to handle a little gesture.
Who is this you? I don't call anyone for burning. Double headed eagle is a nationalistic symbol while three fingers are a religious symbol, there's A big difference.
We all know when switzerland players used doubleheaded eagles that it is a sign of provocation that's why fifa banned it.
At the end of the day, you're free to show any symbol you want, afterall, it's a free country.
Iskreno. U zadnje 3 godine sam toliku mrznju prema vlasti poceo da gajim. Do neke 2021 mi je bilo ono kao "svaka vlast je takva" ali kada sam se malo politicki poceo edukovati, kolicina mrznje samo raste.
Hvala bogu da su studentski protesti krenuli jer ovi drugi protesti, iako su bili dobro, nisu ni blizu uspesni kao studentski.
Itekako, revansizam na fakultetima od strane profesora svakako traje uveliko.
Kada su nas profesori malo odjebali pre pocetka predavanja, okrivili su nas za celu ovu sitaciju. Bas jezive stvari. Svakak sam govorio da barem na mom faksu, 50% profesora zapravo nije za blokade vec se plase reakcije studenata i kolega na to sto ne podrzavaju.
Реваншизам 100%! Лустрација такође. Закон о пореклу имовине и кривична одговорност за сваког ко је власт...Нисам студент али вас подржавам , идем на протесте редовно , бићу и у НС 1.11.
People that attend football matches are cavemen in general. People attending this one are the worst cavemen there are in Serbia. Keeping politics away from sport is normal and expected for anyone who has an IQ higher than 75...
Roman origin, don't remember at what point every legion had different animal representing them. After that, they were unified with the eagle sitting on a thunderbolt. Few times the Roman Empire was at civil wars and dividing itself, leading to more civil wars. The 2 headed eagle was adopted at that period. The empire looked at the east and west.
The eagle symbol it is ancient, predating the “Byzantine” Roman Empire. The Black Eagle on a Red flag it is a symbol from an Albanian noble family that you already know, but Albanians used many different eagle symbols, even single headed eagles were used way before the double headed ones. Just because you are a Servus doesn’t make us slaves like you.
Eagle (aquila) is an adopted sign of Roman legionaries, first by Byzantine (2nd Rome), then the rest of the Balkans and others who considered themselves heirs of Byzantines, like for example Russia (don't ask why).
You're right. You're not saying it's ULTRAnationalistic.
Every country is nationalistic when they take care of their own people and interests, and not for others (that's why we created the borders), the flag is exactly that, to represent ONLY the country, not outsiders.
The word nationalism is so misused that everyone thinks it must imply something aggressive, hateful and degrading to other people.
Eagle is Byzantine symbol. Everyone else accepted from Constantinople. Double headed eagle historically belongs to Slavs, Albanians and Greeks as same as Chinese letters.
It is byzantine but all countries with aristocracy and royalty connection to Costantinopole royalties have inherited the symbol. This is why… greeks also, but in the church flag
Agree with you. Just saying that 2-headed eagle doesn't originate from any of our countries and arguing if it Serbian or Albanian symbol is for real dumbs
Boys, not a balkaner here (from Moldova), got a question. I see that Vucic is quite unanimely hated by the entire country and as far as I know his term is up next year or 2027. Is he planning on staying longer or keeping his party in power and having a puppet president to do a Putin in 4 years after the puppet's term is done? Or he will perish and you will once again get a chance for something better?
I couldn’t care less. All serbian sports are so influenced and downgraded by politics so players are highly unmotivated, so are we, the supporters.
I wish if we could not to compete at all, particulalry in football.
Same thing is happening in Turkey, and I've basically stopped following games or caring about sports outcomes, particularly because football is always used an avenue to distract the masses from the despicable shit that the government is busy doing.
Agreed fully. I don't think people even realize how much money we're spending on these sports which end up not even performing well.
Serbia is well known for it's quality athletes across all sports, and there's a BIG (khm SNS) reason as to why so many choose to play for a foreign team/league.
I mean it's associated with greater Albania, not saying anything, we too have Megali Idea (in the 1900s) but still it's a bit iffy. It's a bit of Iridencist.
Yes, but the gesture is heavily associated with the notion of Greater Albania. I am talking about the gesture not the eagle on the flag. I am greek, if someone came up to me and did the Eagle gesture, I would assume they are Albanian, or a 40k fan.
Yes, but if a greek combines two fingers to make a cross as national symbol, it will not be national, it can be claimed as religion. Greek brain wins again :P
When has ever a greek made a cross to signify greater greece? The only thing that is can think of making a cross with my fingers is to keep Count Dracula Away.
I was making a parallelism… never saw a greek like that, but if he would use a symbol from the flag, they would be clever enough to say it is religious :P
It has nothing to do with whatever greater Albania is. It has to do with Albania because it’s a hand symbolization of what is on our flag and we will not accept anyone trying to portray it in a way that is offensive.
It's not others that do that, it's the people that misuse the symbol. When they stop using the Gesture as a nod to Greater Albania, it will continue to be considered by your neighbors as a hate symbol.
FIFA banned it as it can build political tensions according to them. The Serbian three finger gesture is allowed though and fans screaming Kosovo is Serbia in minute 42 which you could hear loud is totally not politically charged and raises no tensions…anyway double standards are not new to Albanians
But you cant really ban something connected to religion. Thats like banning something for mulsims too. Three fingers should not be conmected to a provacation
Not sure if you know the background here but there were no tickets on sale. Last time there were anti-regime chants so now no tickets on sale, only the hand picked got to attend.
Probably the first time that Serbian people are not interested in match vs Albania and are actualy not watching important match due to political state in team almost whole country is disgusted by or manager and people around him in football association. This match was moved to Loznica and tickets were not sold to normal people because president Vucic was scared that everyone will shout Pumpaj and cheer againts him (Vucicu pederu…) so he gave 5k tickets to government ultrasts and police aka ćaci.
Bro you should not judge people by their football hooligans. I mean there are a lot like this don't get me wrong but these are literally the worst of the worst
Well they consider it Serbia, no?
Their country and parliament never approved or accepted the independence so what would you expect? They see it as stolen land and you're at a football match with hooligans all around. Hardly surprising.
That’s why we are so many years behind anyone else . Give to the poor entertainment and they ll be happy . You have 22 men kicking a door and whole nations on their feet . Who gives a shit honestly and I’m not even Serbian or Albanian
No need.
When they made the " eagle " nobody from the serbian team did anything, not even a protest which gives you an idea the match was bought.
Dont worry.
GoHardLive@reddit
Serbia has so many quality players. Why are they underperforming so much ?
AlexMile@reddit
Toxic politics went into our sport these days, so neither sportists nor audience are not motivated to present it's best.
Ok_Stretch_405@reddit
Albania is no behind either. Rei Manaj was exceling tonight. Strakosha was very calm also.
Ok_Ladder1279@reddit
Ajeti saved our ass so much too
nginx123@reddit
Because idiot on the bench that simply wants his 100k per month
Apart-Persimmon-38@reddit
Most of the best players declined or withdrawn from the team.
MasterofDads@reddit
We are a decent team too, but it is odd. They should be a lot better than us on paper. Not clinical enough imo.
GoHardLive@reddit
Serbia has much better quality tho
MfingKing@reddit
Not like this they won't
holyshitimback@reddit
Team morrale is very very low, people are literally chearing against our team due to political state in it. On stadium there are no real fans, Vucic was so scared that fans are going sing whole match against him and regime instead of Albania that he moved match from Belegrade and didnt let people attend and buy tickets, he gave all tickets to his loyalists.
Whole-Expression618@reddit
Losing to Albania is the canon event that will bring down Vucic’s regime
Austerlitz2310@reddit
Let's hope. Maybe we finally take on a positive identity in the world again. They should have been gone long ago. My favourite moment was when he went on TV to call for peace after the Nepal incident.
Prize_Self_6347@reddit
Why don't Serbians support such a good and socialist PM?
Austerlitz2310@reddit
Vučićism is selling every bit of land and industry we have to the West and Chinese. He wanted a Trump hotel on a protected land ffs. Zaječar is becoming a mining city. Aka, soon to be Chinese owned. The list goes on and on and on and on
We love him so much, we wanna shake his hand
AlexMile@reddit
Him not necessarily included.
Aenjeprekemaluci@reddit
Read r/serbia supports our team...
Salt-Discipline-674@reddit
I support your team just cuz there wont be any stories about hope in our football to pass trough group phase and so on. I wanter 0 3 but loss is enough
Loife1@reddit
Vucic sucking so much ass he ends up bringing Serbs and Albanians together
Aenjeprekemaluci@reddit
Only Satanyahu worse
FinalClaim140@reddit
It's dead race...
Bilbolbu@reddit
Because almost nobody considers this team the national team of Serbia anymore. This is Vučić's team and his lapdog coach.
Austerlitz2310@reddit
As they should. The regime has put so much politics into sport, that none of the players are even motivated to play - Football, Basketball, Volleyball, etc. i think this might be a way to protest. There's a reason this match is being played in Leskovac. Smaller chances they'll yell "Vučiću Pederu" and it's easier to control a smaller population. The people in the stands here are either families trying to watch football or regime placed imbeciles. I wish Albania the best of luck in the world cup. We'll be watching from home.
Whole-Expression618@reddit
That ad where he comes out of a fridge lives in my head rent free, absolutely bonkers
Austerlitz2310@reddit
Have you seen his tiktoks? The protests began getting enormous, and this idiot is doing guess the coke, pepsi, cockta, diet coke trend...
AlexMile@reddit
We are simply dissatisfied because his team won.
Specialist_Elk140@reddit
Losing to Albania never happened, because nobody gave a fuck about that game and the players didn't represent Serbia anyway. And even when Vučić's regime is over, it's not gonna make anyone recognize a Kosovo as an independent country aka Albania.
MidnightNinja9@reddit
Why is Kosovo so obsessed with each Serbian leader falling? Fix your criminal nation first lol, you have criminals all over the country
Nice-Chemistry-7090@reddit
From your mouth to God's ears
dkmegg22@reddit
Winner gets Kosovo
Additional-Bat-4215@reddit
Brother from your mouth to God's ears! :D
Designer-Touch9263@reddit
First time in my life i'm cheering for Albania
KeyMark4056@reddit
If that happenda you will become our best friends
kurekurence@reddit
Vučiću pederu
StudentLeading1177@reddit
Aco Siptare!
KeyMark4056@reddit
Its a insult to Shiptars(Albanians, not an insult guys) to call him that.
Tomorr3@reddit
Shqiptar*
Mingopoop@reddit
You can hear slurs being shouted from bars here in Serbia
GoodZealousideal5922@reddit
They are being heard from the stands too. Disgusting screaming “Kosovo Serbia” in this match
zargug2@reddit
But the eagle isn't controversial at all?
FinalClaim140@reddit
What eagle represents? Both nations have eagle so it's not insult for me .
zargug2@reddit
It isn't for me either but we all know what it represents, there's a reason it's bannedm
FinalClaim140@reddit
I see...but both nations use two headed eagle ... I look at it as honoring Serbian flag 😂
zargug2@reddit
Fair but the eagle was used to represent greater albania ideology aswell as to provoke serbia in 2018 wc against switzerland, that's why it was banned. I personally don't give a fuck about it, but it's really unnecessary.
KDtheDictator@reddit
now I understand how they brainwashed you. from the day I learned the double headed gesture it has never been for greater Albania, it has always been a way to demonstrate how proud we are about our flag.
zargug2@reddit
Speak of the brainwashing💀 My guy, you can look back in history and see when the double headed eagle was used.
KDtheDictator@reddit
what about it? is the double eagle in our flag placed to provoke Serbia or what? the double headed gesture was born and made famous by Albanian footballers celebrating their identity since we have never had big exposure and it was a way to represent all Albanians in the little moment they had when they scored. then it was adopted as a national gesture by everyone.
to make you understand how idiot your logic is, Albanians say the same thing about your 3 fingers gesture, is the son father and God a symbol about genocide?
and honestly if you get offended because of Kosovo, good. you keep calling for our death and burning our flag even in matches that do not concern Albania, you should be able to handle a little gesture.
zargug2@reddit
Who is this you? I don't call anyone for burning. Double headed eagle is a nationalistic symbol while three fingers are a religious symbol, there's A big difference.
We all know when switzerland players used doubleheaded eagles that it is a sign of provocation that's why fifa banned it.
At the end of the day, you're free to show any symbol you want, afterall, it's a free country.
FinalClaim140@reddit
I know , I am Serbian...but I don't look at it like that...they can't provoce me when out president is Шиптар ...
zargug2@reddit
I'm totally with you on that.
FinalClaim140@reddit
We are cooked with him...
zargug2@reddit
Bato moj, ili kukaj ili kuka i motika. Nema drugog.
FinalClaim140@reddit
Ја сам за другу опцију сестро ...
zargug2@reddit
I ja. Dugo vremena sam proveo tako sto sam branio mirne proteste, ali posle svega sto se izdesavalo u zadnja 3 meseca. Tezim ka drugom opocijom.
FinalClaim140@reddit
Подржавам ...никад нисам имао мржњу у себи до пре пар година , усмерену ка картелу на власти...све нам огадише.
zargug2@reddit
Iskreno. U zadnje 3 godine sam toliku mrznju prema vlasti poceo da gajim. Do neke 2021 mi je bilo ono kao "svaka vlast je takva" ali kada sam se malo politicki poceo edukovati, kolicina mrznje samo raste. Hvala bogu da su studentski protesti krenuli jer ovi drugi protesti, iako su bili dobro, nisu ni blizu uspesni kao studentski.
FinalClaim140@reddit
Исти смо ... Не преостаје нам ништа осим борбе ... Или то или паљба одавде. Контам да ће освета бити жестока ако угуши протесте којим случајем...
zargug2@reddit
Itekako, revansizam na fakultetima od strane profesora svakako traje uveliko. Kada su nas profesori malo odjebali pre pocetka predavanja, okrivili su nas za celu ovu sitaciju. Bas jezive stvari. Svakak sam govorio da barem na mom faksu, 50% profesora zapravo nije za blokade vec se plase reakcije studenata i kolega na to sto ne podrzavaju.
FinalClaim140@reddit
Реваншизам 100%! Лустрација такође. Закон о пореклу имовине и кривична одговорност за сваког ко је власт...Нисам студент али вас подржавам , идем на протесте редовно , бићу и у НС 1.11.
zargug2@reddit
Nadamo se sto vise 1.11.
FinalClaim140@reddit
Долази нас доста из Ужица , већ смо кренули да се организујемо ...Боже здравља да нас буде што више 🙏
zargug2@reddit
🥹
FinalClaim140@reddit
Води те брат на пиво ако се сретнемо 🍻
zargug2@reddit
Deal🤝
jokicfnboy@reddit
Kosovo is Serbia is not conteoversial at all.
Thats a 1.5/10 on the controversial insult scale.
just_for_browse@reddit
in serbia russia and north norea only
nice comrades
wantmywings@reddit
But little flying two hand combo? Super controversial
electrash_@reddit
Its 12/10
CompleteAnimal4606@reddit
Not controversial at all😂😂did you come out of a cave?
Illustrious-Peace69@reddit
People that attend football matches are cavemen in general. People attending this one are the worst cavemen there are in Serbia. Keeping politics away from sport is normal and expected for anyone who has an IQ higher than 75...
Tomorr3@reddit
"Kill Albanians" as well
KeyMark4056@reddit
They also shouted “Kill normal Serbians”. Since people in this match are sns Vucic hooligans exclusive only
it_entus_7@reddit
The eagle is OUR symbol since ages. I wonder what's there to be offended about.
Careful_Manager_4282@reddit
I always thought it is known to be Byzantine in origin. Strange to hear otherwise. Care to explain? (Honest question)
dont_tread_on_M@reddit
And?
Loife1@reddit
And what? It's Roman, not Albanian. That is both of ours heritage.
Dix_PourCent@reddit
As explained in a previous comment, it is in common to all countries which aristocracy had blood connections to the royalty in Byzantine empire
Loife1@reddit
Yeah for sure, that's my point. We both just ripped that shit off, it's originally Roman
Dix_PourCent@reddit
Not Roman. It is eastern Roman. It is different. And eastern Romans are byzantine. Romans had one head.
Loife1@reddit
🤓
dont_tread_on_M@reddit
That is exactly my point. Just because the origin might be non-Albanian, it doesn't mean it's not an Albanian symbol. It has been one for ages
Loife1@reddit
My bad og misunderstanding
L0raz-Thou-R0c0n0@reddit
Technically, it is a hittite symbol
Early_Ad6717@reddit
Roman origin, don't remember at what point every legion had different animal representing them. After that, they were unified with the eagle sitting on a thunderbolt. Few times the Roman Empire was at civil wars and dividing itself, leading to more civil wars. The 2 headed eagle was adopted at that period. The empire looked at the east and west.
Dix_PourCent@reddit
The 2 headed is roman but the eastern romans. So, Byzantine
Early_Ad6717@reddit
Yes, you are correct.
Turbulent-Ad1123@reddit
They are just mad that they didn’t come up with it first
biglbiglbigl@reddit
its an orthodox sign, not albanian
Any-Willingness6568@reddit
Maybe you wanted to say... Byzantine
But there is no way to go back with all the downvotes, I'm sorry 😔
Maleficent-Toe7719@reddit
The eagle symbol it is ancient, predating the “Byzantine” Roman Empire. The Black Eagle on a Red flag it is a symbol from an Albanian noble family that you already know, but Albanians used many different eagle symbols, even single headed eagles were used way before the double headed ones. Just because you are a Servus doesn’t make us slaves like you.
Economy_Sugar_6887@reddit
Eagle (aquila) is an adopted sign of Roman legionaries, first by Byzantine (2nd Rome), then the rest of the Balkans and others who considered themselves heirs of Byzantines, like for example Russia (don't ask why).
DK_Aconpli_Town_54@reddit
It's true we adopted it from the Byzantines, but I believe the double headed hand sign it's associated with Albanians at this point.
wantmywings@reddit
Albanians were/are Orthodox too
biglbiglbigl@reddit
I didnt say they arent.
it_entus_7@reddit
Of course but why the yellow card?
Choice_Reporter2960@reddit
FIFA specifically banned it, also, how is it not discriminatory that in minute 42, fans were shouting Kosovo Serbia? Double freaking standards.
Any-Willingness6568@reddit
They always get fined millions of euros for it, be patient
franzee@reddit
Oh, the Serbian Football Association will be sanctioned for that. More money out of our pockets.
wantmywings@reddit
They did it early in the match
Choice_Reporter2960@reddit
Yeah also that minute did not catch it earlier
ThemasterofZ@reddit
Uhm no uhm no no no
KeyMark4056@reddit
Its still banned nationalistic symbol
Any-Willingness6568@reddit
FIFA bans everything. They think showing an eagle or a map is asking for war. FIFA is traumatized by the Balkans 🤣
it_entus_7@reddit
Our flag is not nationalistic. Why is it such a big deal?
KeyMark4056@reddit
nationalistic is a name for national symbol. Nationalistic does not corelate to something bad. Symbol is representing Albania
Any-Willingness6568@reddit
You're right. You're not saying it's ULTRAnationalistic.
Every country is nationalistic when they take care of their own people and interests, and not for others (that's why we created the borders), the flag is exactly that, to represent ONLY the country, not outsiders. The word nationalism is so misused that everyone thinks it must imply something aggressive, hateful and degrading to other people.
barracuda4848@reddit
Eagle is Byzantine symbol. Everyone else accepted from Constantinople. Double headed eagle historically belongs to Slavs, Albanians and Greeks as same as Chinese letters.
Dix_PourCent@reddit
It is byzantine but all countries with aristocracy and royalty connection to Costantinopole royalties have inherited the symbol. This is why… greeks also, but in the church flag
barracuda4848@reddit
Agree with you. Just saying that 2-headed eagle doesn't originate from any of our countries and arguing if it Serbian or Albanian symbol is for real dumbs
Dr_Fabio@reddit
Byzantium symbol not Albanian.
Mustafa312@reddit
Albanians were in the Byzantine Empire…they fought for its borders alongside all the others
dont_tread_on_M@reddit
Albanian symbol of Byzantine origin most likely. Albania was part of Byzantium for over a thousand years.
CompleteAnimal4606@reddit
Serbs about to explode from inat
HumanMan00@reddit
Inat is Spite in Serbia. Why would we explide from Spite?
Only-Ad7687@reddit
Nah, i'm Serbian and i'm glad Albania won against our ćaci footballers.
wizzy_v@reddit
Boys, not a balkaner here (from Moldova), got a question. I see that Vucic is quite unanimely hated by the entire country and as far as I know his term is up next year or 2027. Is he planning on staying longer or keeping his party in power and having a puppet president to do a Putin in 4 years after the puppet's term is done? Or he will perish and you will once again get a chance for something better?
Max_ach@reddit
Aren't sports supposed to bring us together and play for fun? What the hell are these posts over here, living in the 17th century
DarkoNS15@reddit
I couldn’t care less. All serbian sports are so influenced and downgraded by politics so players are highly unmotivated, so are we, the supporters. I wish if we could not to compete at all, particulalry in football.
Vanitycoon@reddit
Same thing is happening in Turkey, and I've basically stopped following games or caring about sports outcomes, particularly because football is always used an avenue to distract the masses from the despicable shit that the government is busy doing.
Spervox@reddit
Eurobasket best example.
vkovacevic@reddit
Agreed fully. I don't think people even realize how much money we're spending on these sports which end up not even performing well.
Serbia is well known for it's quality athletes across all sports, and there's a BIG (khm SNS) reason as to why so many choose to play for a foreign team/league.
SuperSector973@reddit
I can guarantee you will not find a Serb that will blame Albania for this.
Character-Jump3005@reddit
Why is the albanian eagle yellow worthy?
GoodZealousideal5922@reddit
Our symbols and history scare the Serbs
Useful_Trust@reddit
I mean it's associated with greater Albania, not saying anything, we too have Megali Idea (in the 1900s) but still it's a bit iffy. It's a bit of Iridencist.
wantmywings@reddit
It’s not, it’s literally on our flag
Useful_Trust@reddit
Yes, but the gesture is heavily associated with the notion of Greater Albania. I am talking about the gesture not the eagle on the flag. I am greek, if someone came up to me and did the Eagle gesture, I would assume they are Albanian, or a 40k fan.
Dix_PourCent@reddit
Yes, but if a greek combines two fingers to make a cross as national symbol, it will not be national, it can be claimed as religion. Greek brain wins again :P
Useful_Trust@reddit
When has ever a greek made a cross to signify greater greece? The only thing that is can think of making a cross with my fingers is to keep Count Dracula Away.
Dix_PourCent@reddit
I was making a parallelism… never saw a greek like that, but if he would use a symbol from the flag, they would be clever enough to say it is religious :P
wantmywings@reddit
It has nothing to do with whatever greater Albania is. It has to do with Albania because it’s a hand symbolization of what is on our flag and we will not accept anyone trying to portray it in a way that is offensive.
Useful_Trust@reddit
It's not others that do that, it's the people that misuse the symbol. When they stop using the Gesture as a nod to Greater Albania, it will continue to be considered by your neighbors as a hate symbol.
Infinite-Cycle2626@reddit
😂😂😂
Choice_Reporter2960@reddit
FIFA banned it as it can build political tensions according to them. The Serbian three finger gesture is allowed though and fans screaming Kosovo is Serbia in minute 42 which you could hear loud is totally not politically charged and raises no tensions…anyway double standards are not new to Albanians
KeyMark4056@reddit
Three fingers is not connected to country Serbia, that salute is also done by other Orthodox countrys since is Orthodox connected.
For double head Albanian symbol i really dont know is it national or christian. If its national there is your answer
Choice_Reporter2960@reddit
Sure, partially. Ok if FIFA wants to argue on the national part…then let’s not have flags at all. Are flags not national symbols?
KeyMark4056@reddit
But you cant really ban something connected to religion. Thats like banning something for mulsims too. Three fingers should not be conmected to a provacation
Choice_Reporter2960@reddit
I understand, I have nothing against symbol Serbia uses but still think FIFA needs to understand the context in which Eagle is done
Diligent_Tomato_147@reddit
It is considered "provokacija".
StudentLeading1177@reddit
Just as three fingers from that serbian wrestler in Zagreb.
MasterofDads@reddit
Some Swiss players of Albanian descent did it in a match against Serbia (2022 I think?) and it hasn’t been allowed since.
vkovacevic@reddit
Shit team playing against an even shittier team🤷
DardanianGOD@reddit
Wait which is which?!?
m4nki3@reddit
Yes
BarskiPatzow@reddit
Apart-Persimmon-38@reddit
1 team won. So at least they can say, we better
reriser@reddit
WW3 will begin with Vučić’s invasion of Egypt, mark my words
Aleksandar_Z@reddit
Everything started, when they took Egypt from us.
GrandmasterMokO@reddit (OP)
🤣
The_AmazingCapybara@reddit
Just imagine the hooligan fights outside the stadium in this one...
iam2edgy@reddit
Not sure if you know the background here but there were no tickets on sale. Last time there were anti-regime chants so now no tickets on sale, only the hand picked got to attend.
IcyCity3228@reddit
there were no fans barely 5k dont worry
vllaznia35@reddit
Aenjeprekemaluci@reddit
Vuqiqaj.
FinalClaim140@reddit
Wait until he become candidate for elections in Albania 😂
sajpank@reddit
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Stverghame@reddit
He has a proper Albanian surname from his father - Musliu.
wantmywings@reddit
Vuçaj
vllaznia35@reddit
Albin Musliu
Few_Construction9043@reddit
Divlje pleme nas je porazilo
Piksi, posle Andore ODJEBI !
Puzzled_Muzzled@reddit
Basically the Albanian team is substitutes , since the first team plays for Switzerland, . That's why they are always so angry
MfingKing@reddit
The ones in Switzerland are all from Kosovo though. Kosovo has the second team lol
holyshitimback@reddit
Probably the first time that Serbian people are not interested in match vs Albania and are actualy not watching important match due to political state in team almost whole country is disgusted by or manager and people around him in football association. This match was moved to Loznica and tickets were not sold to normal people because president Vucic was scared that everyone will shout Pumpaj and cheer againts him (Vucicu pederu…) so he gave 5k tickets to government ultrasts and police aka ćaci.
franzee@reddit
To Leskovac*
gaziway@reddit
Btw, serbian fans screaming Kosovo is Serbia! Wtf!!
KeyMark4056@reddit
Thats not the worse thing they shouted actually😭
gaziway@reddit
Mind translating what they did say?
KeyMark4056@reddit
Kil Ki* Shiptar. After the goal. Hope i dont get banned from Sub. I am just translating!!!
gaziway@reddit
Man, ballkans is going in the opposite directions for the future life.
Loife1@reddit
Bro you should not judge people by their football hooligans. I mean there are a lot like this don't get me wrong but these are literally the worst of the worst
KeyMark4056@reddit
Idk if you are aware, but not single normal Serbian is at the game. Vucic gifted all the tickets to the Sns regime people.
You could not buy a card for this game. So this is expected. Those people have iq10
Go visit Serbian subreddit, most people root for Albania!
Austerlitz2310@reddit
I just heard "Piksi Odlaazi"
This is not how it is pronounced in Leskovac or the South. These are definitely not locals. They have a Northern pronunciations.
Choice_Reporter2960@reddit
Exactly, but Albanians doing eagle symbol in celebration is banned
VibrantHeat7@reddit
Well they consider it Serbia, no?
Their country and parliament never approved or accepted the independence so what would you expect? They see it as stolen land and you're at a football match with hooligans all around. Hardly surprising.
Exarion607@reddit
Tbf everything is Serbia.
Creepy_Parfait4404@reddit
That is normal, they do it when they play every match
AncientLab2339@reddit
Vucic bitch ass took it off Fubo and Fox sports
Honest_Hair2856@reddit
That’s why we are so many years behind anyone else . Give to the poor entertainment and they ll be happy . You have 22 men kicking a door and whole nations on their feet . Who gives a shit honestly and I’m not even Serbian or Albanian
Accomplished_Box5103@reddit
We did it in their home territory 😜Lets go shqipe!! 🇦🇱
Dafke98@reddit
If Piksi doesn’t lose his job now, it’s going to be a miracle.
madtrucker99@reddit
Vucic’s lapdogs
InitialOk8084@reddit
I am not sure that we care anymore for our national team....it is full of Ćaci people...just like Vucic...full of fascism scums.
PowerfulProcedure868@reddit
No need. When they made the " eagle " nobody from the serbian team did anything, not even a protest which gives you an idea the match was bought. Dont worry.
Jealous-Buffalo-7091@reddit
Why do we Balkan people always trying so hard to find a reason why we loose. If it's not the referee it's that the game is bought.
-imivan-@reddit
ANOTHER 10 BILION TO Dragan Stojković
civodar@reddit
Damn is this why my dad suddenly started yelling and swearing while watching his morning soccer?
Admirable_Gas1653@reddit
Yes we should
Sure-Yesterday-2920@reddit
i love seeing serbia lose to albania or kosovo, its better than any orgasm could ever be
ProfessionalRate6174@reddit
Честитам на голу!
1DarkStarryNight@reddit
wtf.
Serbia is playing Albania?
is it ‘important’ match?
MasterofDads@reddit
Pretty much the winner gets a chance at qualifying. They are fighting for second place though