This is why we don’t give commies an inch

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Garrett119@reddit

This is authoritarianism, not really communism

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Chris_The_Guinea_Pig@reddit

Communism kinda implies authoritarianism if it's going to be implemented onto a whole society

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ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)

Communism always results in authoritarianism because it is not compatible with those seeking freedom, liberty, and free market capitalism.

You saying such an asinine statement demonstrates a severe lack of understanding the history of communism being attempted over the last 120 years.

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ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)

Yes! Hayek, Mises, Hoppe, Hazlitt, and Rothbard’s books are the medicine for communism’s brainwashing.

I know this from my own personal experience as a former commie.

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marco_reus_is_best@reddit

In 5 years you'll find some new political fad to obsess over...

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marco_reus_is_best@reddit

You made an entire meme based on a flair I applied years ago. Lol

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TrickyStatement0@reddit

I like the fatal conceit (also Hayak) personally. It is relatively short and just bangs it's point home until it burned into your brain - central planning is a complete fantasy, a fatal conceit.

It's actually a great place to start for some new libertarians. Because once you accept central planning is impossible, everything makes sense. Why does the FED suck? They're central planners. Why does section 8, food stamps, and all welfare fail despite its noble intentions? Central planning doesn't work. It's actually one of the core thesis of libertarianism (other than the NAP) - central planning doesn't work.

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Kindly-Concept5278@reddit

My current read is the Road to Serfdom, definitely a must read.

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ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)

Excellent book 👍

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TrickyStatement0@reddit

This is wild that this comment got 62 down votes on r/libertarian. If you don't think communism leads to authoritarianism, you are a moron and certainly not a libertarian.

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ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)

There’s more of them than us because communism naturally attracts illiterate morons.

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Killersands@reddit

bro you don't even understand definitions of words, and are labeling a far right government as communist. its fucking absurd

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cnosko00@reddit

All communism is authoritarian, but not all authoritarianism is communism. That's the point that we're making, that's why you all are getting downvoted.

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pirapataue@reddit

You can also have authoritarianism without communism.

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EhUpThere@reddit

The common historical failure with communism is that it takes absolute control to convert an entire nation into a communist state, but the leader is supposed to hand that power back to the state to complete the conversion. However, once absolute power is achieved, these individuals often do not hand it back to the state / people, become corrupt, and thus, the state converts to an authoritarian one.

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e-rascible@reddit

Look up the word “nuance”

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umpteenththrowawayy@reddit

Sure but communism isn’t the sole source of authoritarianism. Squares and rectangles and all that.

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Gmarlon123@reddit

Yes and there is no difference in right or left, they both want this power.

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Candid-Plant5745@reddit

different cheeks of the same shitty ass

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SYSEX@reddit

Communism is about IDs and digital payments? Try again.

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peanutch@reddit

the government will be able to shut off access to your money whenever they want

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SYSEX@reddit

And that is bad - we don’t want that - but that isn’t communism. People don’t realize how idiotic they sound when they throw this term around having no concept of what it means.

Thats the trouble with under informed people - they don’t know they are under informed and the power systems exploit that to manipulate you into thinking how they want you to think.

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TheForestBeekeeper@reddit

Where is that?

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Spranktonizer@reddit

Imagine calling starmer a communist. He’s got to be the most milquetoast liberal there is in the UK.

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Notworld@reddit

What? It’s not like they’d ever use that to cut people they don’t like out of the banking system…

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ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)

Of course not…

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intelligent_dildo@reddit

And what? US doesn’t have digital id and banks don’t require that? Fucking morons here.

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cloud_walking@reddit

And what? The fear is the next step after the digital ID is the social credit score and allowing the government to tell you where you can travel and what you can buy with your money. Just a road to having more control.

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darknight9064@reddit

That comes after your id is tied to your ability to purchase things. There are already apps in the us used to judge workers and give them a score based on what their bosses say.

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intelligent_dildo@reddit

Your libertarian god Theil is doing that fuck face. It’s not the tankies.

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Lagkiller@reddit

The US had ID, but it isn't tied to your banking. It is used to confirm your identity only. It does not store your money, or control access to spending.

Fucking morons here.

Only because you are here.

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Notworld@reddit

Yeah but that was because they didn’t want to stay home all day and lose their livelihood because a bunch of corrupt statists made a virus in a lab in china and wanted to cover it up.

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Direct_Philosophy495@reddit

Not sure money exists in communism. But you know whatever. Where are you guys at with Trump sending the military into US cities?

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Repulsive-Relief1818@reddit

This is way too low on the feed. Even on libertarians it’s somehow become partisan- one side or another. Just feeding the problem rather than admitting both sides are bad, so we can come together as a nation to fix things.

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Equivalent-Web-1084@reddit

geez man never thought I'd see this shit growing up in the western hemisphere

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Longjumping-Bid1284@reddit

One of my employees from khazakstan was going on and on about how great it is until I pointed out that one corrupt official could instantly cut you out of basically all aspects of society on a whim. His response was...it will never happen.

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sssanguine@reddit

Europe still has PTSD from WW2

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Equivalent-Web-1084@reddit

that's the excuse for this?

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sssanguine@reddit

It’s not an excuse, it’s THE reasoning. The European WW2 postmortem TLDR is: any form of nationalism / patriotism is bad + our people can’t be trusted. Therefore the state must expand to fill all gaps and ensure that everyone is in line. Else people will do what’s best for them, and that causes conflict.

On the brightside it only ends one of two ways: Europe dies, or revolution. My money is on death.

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Lagkiller@reddit

So in order to prevent Nazis from cropping up again, they have to...act like Nazis?

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Manic_Mini@reddit

Kinda like how people thing the answer to a bad government is just more government

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Equivalent-Web-1084@reddit

Bingo

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Equivalent-Web-1084@reddit

They have people so divided via the internet and extreme political ideology they have a hard time uniting over where to grab pizza much less a revolution. The powers at be did it so on purpose, all part of their big plan.

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Endsfun@reddit

Why is every post from ENVYisEVIL I’m blocking

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Bqeclisa@reddit

We are all so utterly and completely F#€d!

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l0udninja@reddit

He just wants the return of the sausages bro.

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CityToRise@reddit

Over my dead body. I have a British passport and an NI number. That's all they need. 20 yes ago, the UK government felt like they were across the road. Today, it feels like they're in my bloody lounge.

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puistori@reddit

I don’t think any communists support this actually

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thom_mayy@reddit

It's already happening in many red states. If you paid attention

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Syd_Barrett_50_Cal@reddit

Haha yes, I too love posting contextless rage bait with a bad faith paraphrase of what was actually said.

I don’t even know what this dude said, but if he actually said what the OP says he said, OP would’ve just quoted him directly.

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DeadlyChaffinch@reddit

Englishman here, Keith Starmer and modern Labour are right wing.

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Scary-Strawberry-504@reddit

When you don't like somebody just call them right wing

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DeadlyChaffinch@reddit

No, when they remove the whip from left wing mps, break campaign promises and continue with Tory austerity call them right wing.

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Truththathurts101@reddit

Wrong. Center-left. Stop misleading.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/europe/uk-election-europe-populist-surge-intl

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DeadlyChaffinch@reddit

Not misleading, Labour been centre right since Blair at least, left tried to make a comeback under Corbyn but ole Keith began purging pretty much immediately.

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PezFesta@reddit

Yup, Kier has decimated the left element of Labour and his party is shaping up to be the phoenix of the Conservatives.

If you ask most English people where does Labour stand, most won't say the left

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Bagain@reddit

“Authoritarian moves aren’t unique to communism” u/Melodic_Arachnid_134…

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DeadlyChaffinch@reddit

I don't know what that has to do with my comment? I'm just pointing out that in modern Britain the Labour Party and Keith are right of centre/ right wing.

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Bagain@reddit

I’m agreeing with your sentiment. I thought it, then read your comment, then tte very next comment was the comment I was going to make so I corralled a third into the situation. It’s authoritarianism which… all communists are authoritarians, not all authoritarians are communists.

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