Literacy is a bridge from misery to hope.
Posted by lostcause412@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 56 comments
Posted by lostcause412@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 56 comments
TampaBayG@reddit
There is no push to ban books on the left come on lol. We're in the age of the internet banning books is a throwback to conservative principles. Everyone knows all of these things are found on the internet. It's performative
JAGChem82@reddit
Exactly. Liberals may hate guns, but they won’t hypocritically ban books or guns for anyone but themselves. Right wingers will gladly ban guns from anyone they don’t like.
TexasLeatherfoot@reddit
Liberals don’t all “hate guns” that’s a trope. All the liberals I know are armed.
ClapDemCheeks1@reddit
Depends on the state. In my state a lot of them do hate them and a very low percentage of the population have them.
_HoneyDew1919@reddit
I agree they don’t hate guns, but they believe in an extravagant amount of hoops for gun ownership
Vintagepoolside@reddit
I mean what is wrong with people being deemed safe to carry a gun? I grew up around guns so I’m not against them and everyone in my personal life is responsible with them (except for one actually). But I think there should be more to the process than running a license to see if the buyer is a felon.
If it’s a handgun, shotgun, etc., I get it, that’s dangerous but harder to do lots of damage (like mass shooters). But an AR or something similar? Yeah, jump through hoops if you want it that bad. If it’s your hobby and you just have a “love for guns”, then you’ll go through the process to have that hobby.
Binksley@reddit
I mean, what’s wrong with people being deemed responsible enough to vote? I grew up around civic engagement, so I’m not against voting at all—and everyone in my personal life takes it seriously. But I think there should be more to the process than just showing up and checking a box.
If it’s a local election or a basic ballot initiative, I get it—those are important but less likely to have sweeping consequences. But when it comes to national elections or major policy votes that affect millions? Yeah, jump through some hoops if you want that kind of influence.
GenerativeAdversary@reddit
What's wrong is the idea that someone else gets to choose arbitrarily whether you are safe or not. That's a power that will be abused. As far as would-be tyrants are concerned, no one should be able to own gun. No one is completely safe. Therefore you can come up with any reason to deny someone their right to own a gun. For example, someone could target you because of your politics or your religion. Maybe they think you're not safe because of your hair or skin color. There's 100 reasons anyone can come up with.
Do I personally think anyone should be able to walk in and buy a gun? I would prefer not in some cases. But for my rights to exist, other people get to have their rights too. Otherwise you're heading down a slippery slope.
Ottoblock@reddit
I mean what is wrong with people being deemed safe to speak their mind? I grew up around speakers so I’m not against them and everyone in my personal life is responsible with they say (except for one actually). But I think there should be more to the process than running a license to see if the buyer says the right things.
If it’s a safe speech, agreed upon speach etc., I get it, that’s dangerous but harder to do lots of damage (like radical speech). But revolutionary speech or something similar? Yeah, jump through hoops if you want it that bad. If it’s your hobby and you just have a “love for speaking your mind”, then you’ll go through the process to have that hobby.
Vintagepoolside@reddit
Speaking is the same as an AR? I’m so far from understanding what connection you’re trying to make. My words don’t puncture people’s bodies to make them bleed out.
Ottoblock@reddit
Which amendment is it ok for the government to trample on?
This is more for other people who are going to read this, but could you imagine someone saying we should limit or change the 15th or 19th amendments without having three fourths of the states ratifying it?
Easterncoaster@reddit
I live in NY and want to buy a handgun to bring with me to range when I’m already there to shoot my 5.56 rifle and my shotgun.
I was required to take an 18 hour course at a cost of $540 just to be allowed to apply for the pistol permit. Not CCW- just pistol. Now that I’ve completed the course, I was required to purchase a handgun in order to have a serial number to put on the license application. Then, hundreds of dollars more for the license application plus I need to find 4 unrelated friends to make a statement of good standing (that they each have to take to a notary).
Now, I have to wait approximately 1 year for my permit to be processed. At that point, when I finally go to my FFL to get my year-older handgun, he’ll run the NICS check.
Pretty asinine “hoops” to be allowed to exercise a constitutional right. Maybe we should require the same to allow people to exercise other rights? $540 fee and 1 year waiting period to hold a protest? $540 fee and 1 year waiting period to vote?
Vintagepoolside@reddit
again, I mentioned jumping through hoops for high power weapons that can do mass harm. So, sorry you had to do all that for your handgun, but I specifically said “AR or something similar” in reference to the jumping through hoops.
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
What's a high-powered weapon?
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
Who do you think is more pro 2nd amendment, liberals or right wingers? Like if it was a democratic vote tomorrow on banning assault rifles, which side would be more pro second amendment?
Gmarlon123@reddit
Both sides want to take guns away, they just go about it different ways, the right flirted w the trans bill and they saw that was going to explode in their face.
CaptainMcsplash@reddit
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
Sure, both sides are hypocrites, but one side is obviously more against the second amendment. Stricter gun laws are political campaign promise for most democrats. Again, both sides are horrible on this issue, but the left takes it to the political theater on the issue.
Gmarlon123@reddit
That’s where the convo gets lost and how they separate people. People are afraid to say both sides suck- because there is some sort of peer pressure, or you have to choose a side. It’s ok to say both sides suck equally and the most and we need immediate reform. That’s the way to move forward.
CutWilling9287@reddit
Any intelligent lib isn’t giving away their guns with the state of the psychotic right
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
Any intelligent citizen shouldn't give up their weapons regardless of whatever stupid political team they swear allegiance to.
TianShan16@reddit
Forgot the /s
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
Who has pushed for more gun control laws historically?
Both sides have a problem, and that includes 2A advocacy groups like the NRA. They fold like a house of cards when pressed by democrats or republicans. Unfortunately, neither political party respects the Second Amendment.
Myte342@reddit
Except they are censoring the internet as well. Plus websites go offline or delete content over time even without gov't intervention. Nothing is eternal unless YOU make it eternal and fight for it. Never take freedom for granted.
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
By they do you mean both Republicans and Democrats?
Myte342@reddit
'They' as in the gov't as a whole, no matter if the current people in power in 'insert current year' thinks they have control of house/senate/executive of your state or the Federal gov't are part of one side or the other.
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
Agreed
metalbracelet@reddit
I’d normally agree with you but Gen Z is all about censorship, to a disturbing degree.
hrkarlhungus@reddit
Alexandr Dugin was pulled from Amazon so while it’s not banned in the country, it’s banned from their platform. I’m sure fans of Tucker C found that out when they went looking for his works after the interview.
Waffle_Sama@reddit
I don’t know man, I’ve seen people get weird when you talk about Unintended Consequences or the Turner Diaries
unmofoloco@reddit
The push to ban books from the right was only for schools and libraries, it wasn't like they were pushing bans on any books being sold on Amazon. You really think the left wouldn't do the same thing if the right was putting gay conversion books in schools?
SykoFI-RE@reddit
They haven't started banning books on Amazon..... yet.
TampaBayG@reddit
This doesn't negate what I wrote at all
DigDog19@reddit
I know piles of leftists who want hate speech laws, that includes book banning. Both sides do this.
WOOKIELORD69PEN15@reddit
The left loses their mind at the slightest societal pushback despite running free reign since the 60's. Like, you have former member s of the weather underground (a literal domestic terror organization) as college professors
TampaBayG@reddit
I mean you're referencing a political movement from 60+ years ago to make a point. Is this a bill ayers reference man? From the 2008 election? Sheesh
MCE85@reddit
There are no illegal books in the US. There may be books that are impossible to find or may get you on a list but nothing is illegal.
"Banned books" term is more for books kept from school libraries that are seen as inappropriate for children.
ClapDemCheeks1@reddit
Not many people on reddit will even pretend to recognize the second comment as fact. All these "banned" books are front and center at any book store and can be found in public libraries. They just ban certain ones from school libraries. Which to a lot of people on here is the start of the end of the world.
QuantumSupremacy0101@reddit
Thats untrue, but only if you have pictures in the books
Notworld@reddit
Yeah that’s a good point.
textbookamerican@reddit
Is this a real book?
Lastfaction_OSRS@reddit
Philip A Luty was a UK citizen that heavily criticized the government crackdown of civilian owned firearms. He basically was a second amendment warrior so much so that he worked and designed a homemade submachine gun that could be made from common items found at the local hardware store and then wrote a book about it. The British police watched him and arrested him for possession of multiple illegal homemade firearms. He was seen as a loony by some and a martyr of gun rights by others.
hrkarlhungus@reddit
it is. The dedication:
jasont80@reddit
I don't think there's such thing as banned books, only books that are not available to children without adult cinsent. A parent can still get those books and give it to their child. We have a rating system for audio, video, and games to keep inappropriate content away from children without parental consent, but when you talk about doing the same with the writen word, people lose their mind.
lostcause412@reddit (OP)
Right. If Barnes & Noble's had a banned book section, they aren't banned. It's political theater
SilenceOfTheCat@reddit
I find it difficult to explain to the police the reasons why I have this book, without looking like someone about to commit a crime. I don't support any criminal or violent act, but it's evident that the political reality in our world uses "probable cause" to violate individual freedoms
fuhry@reddit
Let's all be intellectually honest here. The implication behind a liberal person wearing a T-shirt that says "read banned books" is that said books were banned to suppress dissent or silence and marginalize authors who are calling out injustices through their words. Or at a higher level, books that educate the reader about social issues that they may not understand otherwise.
A book with instructions for making homemade firearms is not that.
And neither should be banned.
This dumb comic is anti-intellectualism at its finest.
xrebel21@reddit
Bro it's a joke. You must be real fun at parties.
tsoldrin@reddit
love that mug.
PeBeFri@reddit
I'm a librarian, and this is the problem I have with Banned Books Week.
StuntsMonkey@reddit
No need to worry about banning boons if people are borderline illiterate and won't read them even if they could.
dboimyoung@reddit
They just want you to think about tyranny, god forbid you develop practicable skills to use against one
Geaux_joel@reddit
I obviously dont think any book should ever be illegal. It does Crack me up though, that I can walk into any Barnes and Noble, the white bread of libraries, and there's a stand of "banned books"
natermer@reddit
Yeah there is a big difference between making books illegal and people getting upset that their money is being stolen by the state to pay for books that they don't like.
Yet many people play pretend and try treat them as it was the same thing. It is very odd.
duganaokthe5th@reddit
This! The same “Celebrate Banned Books” people are the same people who hate any literature that criticizes them.
Hot_Egg5840@reddit
Banning books is a means to try and shape morality. Encouraging reading is also a means; it just matters on what the book is.