Is the 5070ti worth it

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Mbcat4@reddit

5070 ti worth the price difference ngl

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TheMasterBetty@reddit

I was in the same situation as you. I just went for 5070 ti I didn't wanna mess with the driver uninstall stuff. It nuked my windows the first time I tried it

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RepresentativeArm656@reddit

Avoid AMD driver issue, better pick NVidia...good luck

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Dont think so..amd driver issue is abnormal..make PC black screen and need to hard reset pc to solve the problem..im experienced this issue with my build..update/DDU still facing same issue..last choice replace nvidia and solved that...dont care everyone upvote this comment..its hurt telling the true...good luck..

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DanStarTheFirst@reddit

Thinking of trading my 3090 for a 9070 because of all the driver issues if I want to play any newer games that won’t run on my older drivers that are stable.

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Funny_Bridge1985@reddit

Nvidia had issues with drivers and certain games so idk if it’s the same thing in amd but damn I’m done with nvidia for now

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Former-Carry-8502@reddit

Hell YES! 🙌🏽 Don’t listen to these comments. Just shell out the extra. It isn’t that big of a price difference.

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Deadreaper109@reddit (OP)

Yea I'm going to I'll be able to use dlss in any game without worrying about the image looking worse and plus I have a high refresh rate monitor so good frame gen would be good.

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coolylame@reddit

Stop listening to this bullshit reddit narrative that the 9070xt is better, get the 5070ti. There's a reason 9000 series doesnt even show up on steam hardware surveys

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Amadeus404@reddit

Why would that be a reddit narrative? Redditors don't make benchmarks, and the 9070 XT performs well in these (there's plenty of articles and yt videos from reputable sources).

The steam survey is notorious for having an issue with AMD GPUs. You can see that AMD finally made it to the top 10 last month, but it only appears as "AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics", so there's no way to know which GPUs are included (https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/steam-hardware-survey-sept-25).

Additionally there's no Blackwell GPU in the top 10, the 5070 is 20th and the 5070 ti is 30th (september 2025 data: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/).

I don't really get the hate toward AMD GPUs. They finally made a good GPU, there's no deny it was successful and they sold a lot (out of stock and available stock was 200$ above MSRP, even though we don't know how much stock they had).

It's also a bit off-topic but it's worth noting AMD powers more than 80 millions PS5, 30 Xbox Series S/X, and even more PS4/Xbox One/ Xbox 360 before that.

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foreycorf@reddit

It's not hate to say the nvidia GPU is better. AMD made a lot of strides but even the reviewers tend to state something like "if these are close to equal in cost for you, or you have the money, get the nvidia card."

The new FSR is like the last generation DLSS. No one would choose DLSS 3 over 4. 4 is noticeably better and getting better as it develops further. As a guy who generally dislikes SR&FG, that Nvidia tech is getting close to where I can't notice them being on (much as I hate to admit it, and not counting MFG). FSR is... Well they've made big strides and if they get to DLSS 4+ level with the next line I think they really will be the better value card but as it stands it's just hard to recommend anyone pick the AMD line over nvidia (if they have the means to freely choose either).

As a casual gamer you just want the card that can put the preset settings the highest and run things the best (which now often includes DLSS/FSR - Nvidia. As a settings/feature tweaker you want the card with the most settings/features to tweak - still Nvidia. Nvidia is more performant for the AI+render crowd too.

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xAimForTheBushes@reddit

Ray tracing is a freaking scam until proven otherwise.

Such a huge hit to performance for such little difference.

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logaboga@reddit

Lol I’m using the 5070ti and using ray tracing on cyberpunk with ultra settings and I’m still getting around 120 frames

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xAimForTheBushes@reddit

And what is the fps if you turn off the ray tracing?

I just don’t think the extra reflections and air particles are worth that hit right now in most games unless you’ve got a 5090

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logaboga@reddit

FPS without it is around 150 but I think it’s worth the hit, also above 120 I think there’s basically no difference in the perceivable quality of the frame rate so idc if it goes from 150 to 120

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timbotheny26@reddit

What resolution? That's what I'd be curious about.

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logaboga@reddit

2560x1440p

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timbotheny26@reddit

Nice to know for myself then. I just finished a build with a 9800X3D and 5070ti, and I'm also going up to 2K res finally.

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Frogsnakcs@reddit

I agree. Had a 9070xt and sold it for a 5070 TI. so much happier

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Amadeus404@reddit

I'm curious, what change did you notice?

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Frogsnakcs@reddit

I was getting a driver timeout error when playing 90% of games that would cause a crash within 10 mins of playing. I tried various fixes over about a month before giving up. I even tried older, more stable drivers and that didn't work. So the biggest change since switching is I can now play games! The whole experience unfortunately soured me on AMD, which is a bummer because I really liked the card and wanted to believe in AMD as an alternative to nvidia, who I think are scummy!

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TheGamerX20@reddit

Seems like you had a bad card? Driver Timeouts and in 90% of the games is a really bad sign... The GPU was probably bad.

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Frogsnakcs@reddit

Worked fine for 8 months before that started! Updated to 25.9.1 and it started

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TheGamerX20@reddit

The 9070 XT launched 7 months ago.. so I assume you mean 7 months and you just started having these issues?

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Frogsnakcs@reddit

worked fine since launch and issues started as soon as 25.9.1 released!

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PocketLagaritja@reddit

no

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Casscz@reddit

FSR4 now suffers more under lack of implementation than quality. It sits between dlss3 and 4, with VERY niche scenarios, it looks better than dlss4. For gamss using DX12, you can use optiscaler. Nvidia also has ray reconstruction allowing for better denoising than AMD, although the implementation of that isn't as common as dlss itself. AMD on the other side are trying to release their version this year under FSR Redstone, called machine learning ray regeneration and neural radiance caching, and you can imagine that this will considerably lag behind Nvidia unless developers want to invest their time to entertain a minority of hardware. I honestly don't make anything of Nvidia's multiframe gen, despite using ML their normal FG already does not do any better than FSR, so I'm not excited for machine learning frame generation with Redstone either. Reflex is more implemented than antilag 2, Nvidia has a monumental advantage for pathtracing. Little less than 50% more performance when I quickly look up benchmarks. And the performance difference is proportional to the amount of ray tracing used looking for non-PT RT. Some people are expecting improved support for stuff AMD once the next gen of Playstation comes out with project Amethyst (Basically a partnership that wants to heavily leverage AI in the hardware), though graphics will obviously be more demanding and RT dependent by then. Personally, I would pick the 9070xt any day. None of the games I play take advantage of the 5070xt. Modded Minecraft, moded Kerbal Space Program, CS2 (has antilag 2 btw), Teardown, Battlefront 2, Rdr 2, doom eternal barely utilizes RT, they're all demanding in Raster. I also play VR and there's no way in hell that is getting ray traced titles anytime soon. I did recently play Cyberpunk and was thoroughly impressed with how well fsr4 could upscale even in performance mode, then I closed the game again because it bores me. I got a high end GPU so I could utilizes my QHD 360hz QDOLED monitor, not for titles that make up a friction of my Library. Obviously it dependents on what you want to play andespecially if you utilize CUDA, but the 5070ti would be wasted money for the most stuff I do.

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Longjumping_Tea_2920@reddit

Generally, for the casual gamer, 9070 xt is better value than a 5070 ti.

Personally, I don't think the $140 difference justifies DLSS or Ray tracing.

What is your max budget?

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Deadreaper109@reddit (OP)

I don't really have a max budget. If it's good value I don't mind spending the extra

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omgimshakingrn@reddit

No max budget.

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ihatemyusername15@reddit

I just got a 5070 ti last week. It's quite good. The raw performance is within %1 of the cheaper 9070xt but for me the. Vidia feature suite is worth it. DLSS is available in more games than FSR3 and the RT/PT performance is better if that matters to you.

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eemort@reddit

What's the software you have to deal with if you go team red? I've only owned nvidia and I do like the screen recording feature, but christ I had how nvidia bundles it's software and acts like Microsoft in it's "f you, eat your garbage" mindset. Is AMD better in that regard?

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ihatemyusername15@reddit

I've never owned an AMD card so I can't say. I was more referring to the wide availability of DLSS 4 compared to FSR3, DLSS frame generation, Reflex support etc. Some games you might have to rely on 3rd party mods for FSR3 support where the Nvidia app allows you to I ject the latest versions of DLSS into whatever game supports DLSS.

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Longjumping_Tea_2920@reddit

Best price to performance right now would probably be this

9070 + 7600x $980

or if you want to save a bit

7700 xt + 7600x $740

a little less future proof but still holds it's own in 1440p gaming.

the only thing that holds this build back is the ram but if you're just a casual gamer then you won't really notice a difference. If the ram bothers you, you could just sell it and put that money towards a better kit. (6000mhz cl30 2x16)

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likely_wrong@reddit

Random question, looking to build a PC since stepping out of the scene in '21. Why the 7600X over something like the 265K for roughly the same price?

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2raysdiver@reddit

If you think you might upgrade your CPU in the future, then go with the 7600X. AMD says the next generation of AMD CPUs will be available for AM5, so in theory, you may be able to just swap out the 7600X for whatever comes out that is better than a 9800X3D. Intel has publicly stated that the LGA1851 socket is for Core 2 Ultra. Nova Lake S will be out late next year on LGA1954.

If you are thinking you are going to build a PC within your budget and ride it for the next five years, with no upgrades, then it doesn't matter, both AMD and Intel will be on to different sockets and DDR6 by that point. Also consider that the last could CPU releases for AM4 were just refreshes of existing CPUs (5600XT, 5800XT, etc), or binned CPUs released in select markets with lower specs so they could make money off higher end CPUs that didn't make it through QC the first time (5500X3D, 5500F).

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thatissomeBS@reddit

Because they're not roughly the same price? The 265k appears to be in the $260 range, and the 7600x is in the $175 range. Also, the AM5 motherboard is probably cheaper right now. Also also, from what I can tell in gaming the 265k runs like 0-5% faster FPS, while the 7600x uses 15% less power.

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brondonschwab@reddit

7700 XT is a terrible recommendation when the 9060 XT exists

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Longjumping_Tea_2920@reddit

I watched all the benchmark videos & they pretty much perform the same in 1440p.

1080p, 9060 xt does a little better.

I’m taking a 7700 xt ($310) over a 9060 xt ($359)

Especially since FSR 4 is coming next year.

So your pretty much paying $40-$50 extra for more Vram. If that’s your thing then go for it.

If your on a tight budget & want to keep it under $750 at least there is a good option for that.

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brondonschwab@reddit

Only $50 extra for a card that is more efficient, has more vram and is on the latest architecture with native support for high quality upscaling. I'd take that deal.

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Cocoa_Cola@reddit

Ya this is a no brainer. 9060 without question for anyone else reading this

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f1rstx@reddit

7700xt is awful

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Maadottaja@reddit

He already has 7800X3D

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Longjumping_Tea_2920@reddit

Idk how I missed that LOL

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awen478@reddit

then get the 5070 TI for your peace of mind

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clingbat@reddit

Best buy has a gigabyte 5070ti for $750 right now, if you're in the US that's probably best value at the moment.

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Sittennn@reddit

They're about on par and the 9070xt is a great card. But if you're planning to try/play vr, definitely get the 5070ti. I was more or less in the same situation but I have a psvr2 headset and I like path tracing so I chose Nvidia.

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MxFnx@reddit

Yes it is. DLSS is just better support for now and it works better in so many titles.

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Ok-Arm-5331@reddit

Just enjoy your 9070 XT and see down the line how happy or unhappy you are with the performance/ features.

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beefcake8u@reddit

I just got a 5070ti literally 2 days ago. I buily my PC in 2020 just before covid hit. I had a 2080ti One of the best GPUs ever made at that point in time, I have noticed a insane increase of performance. I also am using all my other old stuff too. ( i9-9900k, 3200mhz ram)

And I noticed a night and day increase. The 5070ti is an unbelievable card at the price point. Are there better cards, yes. Are they cheap. No

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lordagr@reddit

Probably not?

RayTracing support is much better with Nvidia, but you probably know better than I do if you want to play those games with RayTracing enabled. DLSS is better than FSR as well, but it's not so bad that it's unusable or anything.

I assume you aren't doing anything AI related with the GPU either, so yea, the 9070xt is probably the way to go, unless you think you're gonna kick yourself for losing out on a few bells and whistles later.

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Tigerssi@reddit

RayTracing support is much better with Nvidia

Nope

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hause_wsf@reddit

What went through your mind typing and sending this

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Tigerssi@reddit

Uhh, benchmarks?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9070-xt-tuf-oc/36.html

https://youtu.be/UoZnL4gbc9Y?si=uHfzBI2e_0KNt1rv

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dYukia@reddit

Dude, top 5 is basically Nvidia, what do you mean?

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Tigerssi@reddit

So? 9070xt is margin of error away from 5070ti, for a lot less

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Rampaging_Ducks@reddit

Margin of error, eh? What was the standard deviation you used to calculate that?

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Tigerssi@reddit

Feel free to go look at those 2 sources I linked here, after which I got mass downvoted 🤣

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Rampaging_Ducks@reddit

I did, didn't see any mention of margin of error in there.

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Tigerssi@reddit

So 4% isn't margin of error to you? That's like 60fps vs 62fps

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Darth_Sirius014@reddit

Not trying to bust your chops, but you are using margin of error wrong here. What you probably mean is that it is a smal relative difference.

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Rampaging_Ducks@reddit

My dude, you use "margin of error" without having any clue what it actually means.

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Tigerssi@reddit

Define margin of error then 🤣

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Rampaging_Ducks@reddit

Here you go, buddy. Happy reading.

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SnooWoofers1593@reddit

Top 5 is Nvidia bc amd does not have a competitor for the 3090,4090,5090 and 5080

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supremekingherpderp@reddit

Sure but to his point the benchmark shows 9070xt and 5070ti were only 8% apart at 4k which is the widest variance. No one’s arguing that the 5070ti isn’t better but is 8% performance worth $130?

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GARGEAN@reddit

It's 8% average, including cases with extremely light RT implementations where RT occupies extremely small part of frametime, and, consequently, offers less benefits. Some even include RE4 Remake into RT benchmarks, ffs!

Then you go to cases where RT both weights noticeably and offers a lot. Cyberpunk RT Ultra is like 25% difference. PT titles are often over 50% difference.

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YY--YY@reddit

PT is not RT, dont move goalposts.

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GARGEAN@reddit

PT is "more" RT. I don't see this as moving goalposts.

Even if we stay at arbitrary "just RT" levels - in more involved titles difference is still way above 8%.

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TheGamerX20@reddit

That wasn't the case last time I checked? Sure in Path Tracing, Nvidia puts AMD into the ground.. but on RT Ultra last I remember they were within ~7%, in favor of the RTX 5070 Ti.

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GARGEAN@reddit

https://youtu.be/YOyioXeWlig?si=qsgow4_pNiqwW-Uy&t=509

22% there. It CAN be lower if using FSR 3 vs DLSS, since FSR 3 is much ligher. But then image quality goes out of the window.

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TheGamerX20@reddit

Oh, Cyberpunk still uses FSR 3? that could be why.. FSR 3 is definitely lighter..

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GARGEAN@reddit

It has FSR 4 now, but video was done long before that. Not sure about exact % with FSR 4 vs DLSS 4, but doubt it's too close to 8%.

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Creative_Ship_6758@reddit

maybe he mistook for "dlss is better" idk because now fsr4 and dlss4 are heading to head only difference being mfg on dlss that no one cares about

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heroicxidiot@reddit

Probably not a lot. Top 5 are all Nvidia. Top 10,only 3 from AMD.

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THXFLS@reddit

Total non sequitur. The faster, more expensive, higher memory bandwidth GPUs that AMD doesn't make a competitor for are faster at RT? Well yeah, obviously. Nvidia is still better, but their monopoly on the top 5 has less to do with that than it does the 9070 XT being a 9070 XT and not a 9090 XT. Nvidia could release a new GB202 GPU for every 1000 shading units between 5090 and 5080 and own the whole top 10 and it would change absolutely nothing about this discussion.

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pepehandsx@reddit

It 100% is.

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Tigerssi@reddit

So benchmarks lie?

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pepehandsx@reddit

From personal experience when working with u real engine.

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Tigerssi@reddit

So you got 9070xt and 5070ti?

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pepehandsx@reddit

Yup

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Tigerssi@reddit

Feel free to share your benchmarks then!

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UnseasonedWriter30@reddit

I have a 5070ti with a 3700x. Couldn't be happier with the choice. Frame generation is really convincing too. I am playing Phantom Liberty with path tracing at 1440p and averaging 100fps. I considered the 9070xt, but I feel like the 5070ti will have more longevity - I plan to keep it for 5+ years, eventually upgrading my CPU down the line.

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donotrefer@reddit

Go for the 9070 xt. I have two. I'm building a pc for my boyfriend with the Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT. On Cyberpunk with path tracing on 2k, ultra, I get 100 frames. On raytraced high I get 160 frames. I do not struggle on any game.

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eemort@reddit

Can I ask, what is the software like with a AMD gpu... I rather hate the wway nvidia has this big bloated package, that insists on running in the background at all times, and refuses to work if you havent updated the second a new update is released.... you know, microsoft style bullshit.... is AMD better in that regard or much the same?

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donotrefer@reddit

It's possible to install drivers ONLY.

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Ill_Difference_4039@reddit

the 9070xt has pretty good ray tracing ( just avoid path tracing for now ) and FSR4 is leagues above FSR3 ( FSR4 is between DLSS3 and DLSS4 now ) AMD has promised that they are doing big updates to improve path tracing and frame gen very soon, obviously DLSS4 transformer model is crazy good and nvidia has better RT/PT performance but the difference isn't that crazy, if the games you care about most use ray tracing or you personally want to experience path tracing ( it's cyberpunk / wukong / indiana jones / alan wake 2 / the new doom ) so far then go ahead with the 5070ti, but the 9070xt is very good and has gotten a lot better with driver updates, while nvidia has been fucking up a lot recently, important to consider if you care, the 9070xt uses a lot of power, while the 5070ti is pretty efficient, can OC very well and the undervolt is impressive, it's like a 100w difference between the cards, another is DLSS is available in almost every game you can think of while FSR4 is not, it's in like 80 games only so far

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Ill_Difference_4039@reddit

the 9070xt has pretty good ray tracing ( just avoid path tracing for now ) and FSR4 is leagues above FSR3 ( FSR4 is between DLSS3 and DLSS4 now ) AMD has promised that they are doing big updates to improve path tracing and frame gen very soon, obviously DLSS4 transformer model is crazy good and nvidia has better RT/PT performance but the difference isn't that crazy, if the games you care about most use ray tracing or you personally want to experience path tracing ( it's cyberpunk / wukong / indiana jones / alan wake 2 / the new doom ) so far then go ahead with the 5070ti, but the 9070xt is very good and has gotten a lot better with driver updates, while nvidia has been fucking up a lot recently, important to consider if you care, the 9070xt uses a lot of power, while the 5070ti is pretty efficient, can OC very well and the undervolt is impressive, it's like a 100w difference between the cards

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Zuzi77@reddit

I have tried 9070XT prime before I sent it back and got 5070Ti prime (difference was only ~80€ here). Performance is nearly the same between them and casual gamers may not even see the difference, some games benefit Nvidia, some AMD. RT is "fine" but some heavier games can get up to ~30% more fps using Nvidia. PT, well AMD just straight up loses, mostly loses by more than 50%. Power consumption is also stupidly high on AMD (~330w) while Nvidia pulls only up to ~250w. DLSS support is much more widespread than FSR and image quality is just one level above AMD. Sadly the Prime 9070XT started coil whining like crazy so I had to return it (it whined even at undervolted ~240w). 5070ti? Zero coil whine, nearly silent card.

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uhohhhstinkehh@reddit

Ai biết

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OkStorage5488@reddit

For $135 less 9070xt all day long. Better raster, FSR4 is more or less equal to dlss now, amd has frame gen as well.

5070 ti is equal to if not slightly slower in pure raster, but faster in RT marginally and faster for sure in PT.

AMD drivers are fine, disregard bad driver meme, if anything Adrenaline software is better than Nvidias equivalent UI.

Had this same dillema earlier this year and I have no regerts. Just keeps getting faster with each update tbh.

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Alpha_diabeetus@reddit

Just get the 5070ti. DLSS4 is crazy good. FSR4 is barely in any games.

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Strange-Armadillo506@reddit

In any game that had fsr3 and opticscaler can put it in pretty much any game.

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TheBigMad85@reddit

My understanding was if the prices were close the 5070ti made more sense. That's about all the details I know so maybe I'm wrong, but i was open to both options.

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WhatYouKnowWhatIMean@reddit

Go for whichever cheaper.

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evan9922@reddit

Definitely not, the 5070TI is not worth 135$ more there like within 5% of each other in rasterization. Even at normal ray tracing they're within 20% and that's on the extreme end most day tracing are not even that big of a difference. Only in path tracing is the 5070TI much much better. And honestly not many games even have that or would I consider it worth it for the performance hit.

So yeah definitely get the 9070XT is a great card and FSR4 is good for the games it's in

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TwoDimensionalMonkey@reddit

5070 ti cuz it's better long term and has good resell value.

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Piper_Panda@reddit

If you're planning to use Linux, I've heard AMD is a muuuch stronger choice. If you're using windows, Nvidia is better all around. Is it worth the extra $135? Depends on the types of games you play honestly

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Aaronisthename4420@reddit

Got my 5070ti for 715 and it was worth it imo, but you prob won’t find it at that price so get 9070xt it’s the same card

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Prestigious_Cold6766@reddit

What games do you play most? Certain titles like Call of Duty do way better with AMD cards like the 9070 XT, while other games favour Nvidia. I went with the 5070 Ti for $140 extra myself but honestly I would've been happy with either card.

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MusicMedical6231@reddit

If ever vr or trupples go nvidia, if zero interest go amd.

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johnman300@reddit

In raster, those two are functionally identical. And VERY close even in normal RT. The 5070ti will be better in path tracing, which you can really only get on a few games (Indiana Jones, CP2077, Doom). FSR4 is functionally as good as DLSS4. I mean there are differences, but it's basically unnoticeable unless you are doing side by side comparisons. The biggest issue is that DLSS is certainly better supported than FSR is. It's in basically all new games at launch. FSR tends to dribble in later. And older games often don't support FSR4 at all. If the games you want to play support FSR4, I'd save the money personally. I have a 9070, and am ecstatic with it. But that was more a function of being able to get that at launch. I would have gladly snapped up a 9070xt or a 5070ti if I could have. You really can't go wrong with the two you listed. And for many, it comes down to which brand you are most comfortable with.

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brndon_a@reddit

what i would do i get a cheap used gpu like a 1080ti/3060/3070 range is anywhere from $100-$250, wait for the 5070super/5070ti super. when u get any one of those models u can just sell the old gpu again

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EscentX@reddit

$135 difference, probably just go with the 9070xt. There was an $80 difference for me, I personally went with 5070 ti.

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taidizzle@reddit

$599 msrp for 9070xt market is $50-$100 above

$749 msrp for 5070ti market is msrp

if you can get the 9070xt at sticker it's absolutely worth the savings over the 5070ti.

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Sea-Cardiologist8010@reddit

Read up on the melting connectors and fires started by the 5000 series cards power connector. I prefer Nvidia and had the 5070ti in my new build til I read about that. Not taking that risk thanks. Changed to a 9070xt. Does the job. Probably won't burn my house down with my family in it.

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fistfulloframen@reddit

For pure gaming no, if you want to play with ai stuff yes.

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taenorobinson@reddit

what ai?

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IndependentTrouble62@reddit

Running a local LLM model, Machine Learning Pipelines, GPU accerlerated ETL, local AI image generation. All are much faster and easier to do on Nvidia cards because of CUDI being out so much longer.

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taenorobinson@reddit

thanks… no idea how to use these tools but I’ll do some research

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kmkm2op@reddit

Imo no, fsr4 with optiscaler is really good and regular raytracing isn't too far behind. The real difference is in pathtracing which I find doesn't run well enough to use in the first place even if with a 5070ti. I would prefer to have settings that let me hit close to 180 fps without framegen as I like having a responsive and smooth experience.

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Sea_Antelope8802@reddit

Nah the 5070 ti can do path tracing at 1440p or below even light stuff at 4k

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kmkm2op@reddit

Not at 120+ fps which is what I mean by a fast and smooth experience

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Sea_Antelope8802@reddit

Okay well for 99% of people it is considered playable with path tracing

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kmkm2op@reddit

Well I did state it was my opinion and playable does not mean good experience

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Sea_Antelope8802@reddit

I’m sorry but this is just coping.

Do you also turn ray tracing off? Bc you for sure aren’t getting 120 fps with all rt on with the 9070 xt.

Like I get around 90 fps at 1440p with rt on my 9070 xt with fsr quality but according do you I should be playing without rt and lower settings bc under 120 fps is unplayable

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kmkm2op@reddit

Yea, I play 1440p max no rt fsr quality enjoying my big fps numbers and butter smooth performance.

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Sea_Antelope8802@reddit

Yeah I’m hoping it plays more like a 5070 ti after fsr red stone and I don’t need frame gen but realistically there won’t be any magic 50 percent performance gains.

However it is just hard to play without path tracing when I have seen how good it looks it feels like I am getting a lesser experience

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Sulorian1982@reddit

I'm reading through all of this right now and many of my colleagues always say that you need at least 120fps.....and even better 240 and everything on low so that you can achieve that, but........I got a 4070 at a bargain price when the 50xx were announced and what can I say.....I love it. I play 1440p max details. There are games where I can't crack 120fps, but......even with 60fps I'm happy. I come from a time where I played with an fx5600 Crysis in 20fps (low) or had to play with the FEAR card with pixel doubling to reach 20fps. So cp2077 with 60fps and everything at max and total eye sex is just terrific. Such great times for gamers today. But it depends on the games...First person shooters have to have high FPS.

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Sea_Antelope8802@reddit

Yup this is exactly how I play too.

Shooters and esport titles I play on lower settings even with my 9070 xt that can run it at higher setting bc I want the most fps possible.

For story games though I try and max everything out as far as possible while still in that 60-90 fps range

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643310@reddit

For gaming in my opinion: no.

Anything else: if you want it.

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643310@reddit

For gaming in my opinion: no.

Anything else: if you want it.

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logaboga@reddit

Get the 5070ti

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ChimmyMama@reddit

Love my 5070ti and glad i bought it at $750 msrp!

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Restoni77@reddit

Dlss really give advantage with many games, and its little bit better card in raw power too. Is it worth over 100$? I dont think so. You should consider how much better 3dmark-score matter for you? Or how much better 70fps is compared to 60fps? If you dont care these kind of things, and only user experience matter, go for 9070xt, you really dont notice difference. If in your head there is silent voice screaming fomo, then go for 5070ti, 100$ is quite small price of mental wellfare.

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ZELLKRATOR@reddit

260hz. Uff you want to max out that FPS? To be honest you would need a better card than those both.

The 5070Ti has more software advantages and better RT than the 9070xt, the 9070xt first seemed to be a bit weaker depending on the game now it seems it's actually slightly stronger in raw performance.

For single player games I think frame gen is actually a valid choice for competitive games it isn't.

It seems you have validate your choice based on the games and settings you want to play on.

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SunRender@reddit

I did a huge jump from RX 980 8GB to 5070TI. The reason I didn’t pick 9070xt, is because in the first few years, AMD’s software was causing me so much trouble. I don’t know how it is now, but I just wanted the peace of mind with an nvidia gpu this time around.

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Amadeus404@reddit

For 1440p rasterized gaming they're more or less the same.

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Googlesbot@reddit

I've been pretty impressed by my 5070 ti, path traced cyberpunk at 1440 with 2x fg is shockingly smooth, personally I think i would have been disappointed if I spent nearly 800$ and that wasn't an option.

Now if you don't care about pt and would rather have the $150~ in your pocket the 9070 xt is a no brainer, amd almost won me back with it, there was a few other very minor things that swayed me team green 1 more time it amd is so close.

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MaxYuckers@reddit

I just went from my 3070ti to the 9070xt, couldn't be happier. They are both fine cards, I'm sure. Just save yourself some money, buy some games!

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Frogsnakcs@reddit

I had a 9070XT but just sold it and bought a 5070 TI. I started getting a "driver timeout" error in many games that would crash the game. I tried many fixes over a month long period before giving up. The value of the 9070XT was better, but I couldn't use it to play games so not much value there!

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Brilliant-Profile49@reddit

Only time when rtx 5070ti is worth it for me is when price difference is less than $50. $50-$100 is a grey area, if you will be playing heavy RTX/Path tracing games (Cyberpunk, Black Myth Wukong, etc.) probably still go with 5070ti. If the price difference is more than $100, theres no question, go with 9070xt. I bought my 5070ti for 670 below MSRP and at that time 9070xt was 650 so i went with NVIDIA

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Gurkenbaum0@reddit

Bought my 5070ti also way below msrp second hand. it works great. Just writing this, because i think ive seen a video from gn were the 5070ti somehow performed very poorly in Cyberpunk. Dont know if they somehow patched it by now..but if somebody is buying to play cyberpunk i think the 5070ti is a bad choice

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GARGEAN@reddit

>but if somebody is buying to play cyberpunk i think the 5070ti is a bad choice

That is objectively a bullshit on so many levels I can't even begin to start naming them separately.

5070Ti will both perform AND look better in Cyberpunk compared to 9070XT.

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Gurkenbaum0@reddit

Ok:

https://youtu.be/yP0axVHdP-U?si=6svNqZaNLzEDFu68

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GARGEAN@reddit

GN tests are fine. What's bad it their amount of sample points and sometimes in their specific chosen examples (they are testing RE4 Remake as RT benchmark, LMAO).

To the point of specifically 2077 - I don't see what this video should disprove?.. 5070Ti runs marginally slower in pure raster, noticeably faster in RT and HUGELY faster in PT. And yes, it can run PT handily and pleasantly in that title. On top of that is has RR, that makes RT and PT look better than ones on 9070XT.

So in the end with 5070Ti you will either (for some reason) stay at pure raster and be... 1.3% slower than 9070XT? Seriously? "Bad choice"?

Or you will turn on RT/PT, and will have 20% to 50% higher framerate than 9070XT, ON TOP of having better image quality than 9070XT.

Did I miss something in your point?

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Lion12341@reddit

No, definitely not if the price difference is that big. There's not a big difference in performance between the two GPUs.

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Kenshiro_199x@reddit

An OC'd 5070ti gives 5080 performance

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uspdd@reddit

Look up YouTube videos of path tracing in games like Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2, Indiana Jones, Doom DA. If you like it, 5070Ti for sure.

Also, that 260hz monitor could use MFG, but that's up to you.

DLSS is gonna look a bit better than FSR4, but there gap is smaller now. However, DLSS still has better game support and some official FSR4 implementations suck, like in CP2077 or Borderlands 4, so you would need to use Optiscaler to fix that.

Same with FG when the game only has DLSS FG support.

Nvidia has more features like Reflex, RTX HDR, DLDSR.

If you aren't particularly interested in all this, just get 9070XT, as it raw performance is the same or even better in some games.

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Madmike_ph@reddit

I haven’t seen others mention this so I will say: the 9070 is going to be perfectly fine for most modern games right now. But if you want to get a couple more years out of this pc before having to upgrade, I would (and have) spend the extra on the 5070ti to “future proof” your set up.

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MoneyMike0284@reddit

I would say that it’s not worth paying that much extra BUT I am very happy that I went with the 5070ti because path tracing has made Alan Wake 2 look really good. I’m glad I didn’t play much of it with my old 6800. I never felt like I needed a good ray tracing card before I had the 5070ti. I’m now a big believer in ray tracing and path tracing. Also when I purchased my 5070ti at msrp, the 9070xt was still selling for over msrp. So it really comes down to how important path tracing is to you.

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ahumbledman@reddit

9070XT no joke, i want to say HWUB had the 9070XT even beating the 5080 in BF6

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Immediate-Teach7527@reddit

i just went from a 7800XT to a 5070TI. performance is very good . much worth the extra $100. plus from a person having both, Nvidia just has much better support the application is much better

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zionpwc@reddit

I used amd GPUs most of my life. Then finally got 4080S when it was released. Aside from the things mentioned, Nvidia is better also because of DLDSR and DLSS which are just far superior.

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MancysPlace@reddit

FSR4 is quickly catching up to DLSS4, RT performance is definitely worse. The upcoming release of their ML models with FSR Redstone (ML upscaling/frame gen, AFMF3 that integrates with FSR4, neural radiance caching, and ray regeneration) should greatly minimize (or possibly close) the remaining gaps. Regardless of how good the redstone update actually ends up being, the cards are very close, and I don't think the 5070ti is worth the extra $135.

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JohnLovesGaming@reddit

If you need CUDA and prefer DLSS, buy the 5070ti. If you don’t want to shell out the $750+ then don’t and get the 9070xt. I kinda am forced to use Nvidia because their software suite mainly broadcast is uncontested, albeit their more recent updates since the 5000 series dropped made it awful. (Still on Broadcast v1.4)

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Funny_Bridge1985@reddit

Raw performance choose the 9070xt

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GARGEAN@reddit

5070Ti is literally faster in "raw performance", LMAO, both in raster and in RT. Having better AI features is just cherry on top.

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Funny_Bridge1985@reddit

Sorry mb for that price u would expect it to be

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CursorSurfer@reddit

Does the 9070XT even have AI? It’s the future in games unfortunately and going by what you say the 9070XT just won’t hold up.

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Funny_Bridge1985@reddit

Yes it also has these futures. Most competitive gamers prefer real raw gpu performance over AI frames. AI frames introduce some input delay and are only perceived not real frames.

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CursorSurfer@reddit

Both cards trade blows natively depending on the game, DLSS is better and more supported than FSR4. MFG is also better than AMD’s equivalent. I had 90-100 frames on Mafia Old Country and i put Frame Gen on and it boosted me to 150 fps with minimal input lag. It’s not that bad of a lag at all for single player games, certainly no workout for sloppy optimization but it doesn’t matter if it’s “fake frames” i could still feel the difference in framerate so i suppose i’m happy with fake frames.

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Funny_Bridge1985@reddit

Yes for single player games MFG is perfect but for competitive games especially fps games I choose raw performance over AI frames. Yes i mentioned competitive games earlier

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Funny_Bridge1985@reddit

Interpolated frame generation with AI is just sick work but never raw work.

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billygoat_654@reddit

I had the same decision recently when I was upgrading from the 7900gre and just got the 5070ti. Wanted to see what team green was like & gotta say I’m really enjoying it. Is the price difference worth it? Probably not as the 9070xt & 5070ti are pretty much on par with each other in most games. But dlss (in my opinion) looks great, multi frame gen is a lot smoother of an experience, & being able to experience ray tracing w/o the huge hit to performance is a nice comfort.

Overall if it’s your first nvidia card id say go for it, if not your probably not missing out on a lot as amd is catching up with the new generation.

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insertadjective@reddit

I have a 7800X3D and a 5070ti paired up and I can run all of my games at 1440p with 100+ fps without using Frame Gen. With Frame Gen I'm pushing well into the 150s and up (although I only play single player offline games, so the latency added by Frame Gen doesn't bug me at all and isn't noticeable to my perception.) I'm very happy with the card. That being said I was actually originally looking for a 9070xt but couldn't find one at MSRP when I was shopping earlier this year, so I went with Nvidia.

I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either card though. If you want to save the 130 bucks and put it towards a better case or more ram or whatever then go AMD, but if you want that extra bit of performance then go Nvidia.

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ecktt@reddit

Is the 5070ti worth it

No but it is the beast option give how all video cards value suck.

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Endlesslurker@reddit

If COD is your main game go AMD if it's not go Nvidia.

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troolip-@reddit

personally I'd lean towards the 5070 Ti for the 12v-2x6 alone

I've previously used a 12vhpwr at a horizontal angle for over a year. in my experience the cable is fine as long as you're not running a crazy power demanding card like a 4090/5090

triple 8 pin is ugly and unwieldy, but I'm an aesthetics builder 😅

the smart choice for your needs would probably be the 9070xt

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chibicascade2@reddit

PS5 is going to perform away worse than a 5070ti. You could get something like a 5060 and be at about the same quality as PS5.

Personally, I don't think any new gpus are worth it, except possibly the arc b580. I'm running two older gpus I picked up on eBay, an Rx 7600 and an RTX 3080.

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Plastic_Spend_9762@reddit

Nv and no driver stress!

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bigbassdream@reddit

I went with 5070ti for the in my opinion better supporting features from nvidia and in games it’s a toss up between these 2 cards. The new cod runs better on amd apparently but the new battlefield benchmarks puts nvidia ahead by a decent margin. It’s not an easy choice lol they’re very close cards

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Previous-Ad-2306@reddit

For $135, only if the money doesn't really matter to you.

DLSS is great, but to most people it's not worth that much more when the 9070 XT is already so powerful.

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Powerful-Ad2869@reddit

Stupid Quote by me : There is no such thing as a BAD GPU, only bad prices. Do i personally think a 5070ti is worth it? Absolutely not!

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hause_wsf@reddit

I personally think you're wrong

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hause_wsf@reddit

Don't mind spending extra? 5070 Ti.

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_SaiZenn@reddit

if you found a 9070xt for $135 less than the 5070 ti then go for the 9070xt, it's near 5080 performance

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dolfa321@reddit

Ray tracing is not worth it in my view. There is so little games in which it makes sense and they are mostly singleplayer because in multiplayer it is sometimes even a disadvantage even when not considering the fps drop.

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Confident_Natural_42@reddit

The 5070Ti is not an upgrade over the 9070XT, but rather a sidegrade. They're the same class of card, with quite similar performance. Not worth that price difference.

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unskippableadvertise@reddit

Generally, the tis and supers aren't worth it over the base models. I haven't kept up with the latest gen so they might be an exception but I would actually just buy a gen old card at a steep discount.

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codester240@reddit

Not these last two generations. 4070ti/5070ti are a large increase over 4070/5070

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unskippableadvertise@reddit

That does seem to be the case now that I look at it. I still stand by my statement regarding prior generations though. Oddly enough, the increases in gaming seem to actually follow the same trends as the synthetic benchmarks. Perhaps one of the elusive benefits of most games using the same few engines today?

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Ginvoice@reddit

for 135 imo nah, i got the 5070 ti because it was around the same price as a 9070xt where i live. but for 135 bucks you can put that into a better cpu, storage, or games

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ts_rrrido@reddit

9070xt perform similar to 5070ti and have a better price. But if you are using rt, need DLSS4 (definitely not at 1440p), or heavy productivity work, than 5070ti.

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Solid-Delivery-3241@reddit

depending on whether you need ray tracing or not

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HankThrill69420@reddit

9070 XT if you really want to save, it's a great card. i've been playing around with fluid motion frames and FSR4, it's almost as good as Nvidia equivalent. lot of neat features to play with tbh

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PureWolfie@reddit

Go with the 9070XT and just enjoy gaming my friend.

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Perfect_Memory9876@reddit

The 9070xt will work for 99% of people that game and do a few other things. The 5070ti would benefit from doing all other things while being able to game as well. There are some software that caters to Nvidia and then some games play better with AMD

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TheGear5@reddit

It depends... If you only want it for gaming, then 9070XT is just fine, no real difference. Nvidia is just the cooler flex in this case. It would be good to spend the extra money on better components, or even on a better RX model. That's just my opinion.