Scoop: Dominion Voting sold to company run by ex-GOP election official
Posted by nycdiveshack@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 132 comments
Posted by nycdiveshack@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 132 comments
BongoLocoWowWow@reddit
This is how democracy fails.
dust-ranger@reddit
ThrowawayRage1218@reddit
He says everything out loud and yet still people are surprised when he actually does it. No matter how many times he says he's going to do a thing, people say he can't/won't do a thing, and then he does the thing. I'm baffled.
Creepy-Cantaloupe951@reddit
LeopardsEatMyFace sub is popping right now, just due to this.
hera-fawcett@reddit
i really think its his tone/cadence fr. for some reason he hasnt been taken seriously since the 80s, despite following through w horrific shit.
sure its partially bc he's a little piss nepo baby who weasels his way out of trouble--- but the amt of times its happened should have ppl blinking in disbelief.
like sure, its the 80s, play a role in ur brothers death, sleep w children, marry a human trafficked czech bride, sink multiple businesses, have ur employees racially profiling ppl, put ur sister in a position of judiciary power, etc etc etc. but like shit all of that happened and we still put him on reality tv? for multiple yrs????
what sort of crazy ass hypnotism is that???? how did he maintain and grow a platform-- even in the 2000s?????
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Hahah what democracy? It's been an Oligarchy from the start.
Correct_Doctor_1502@reddit
Already did. We let an insurrectionist attack the capital and get away with it.
Ripple22@reddit
He also just resolved another war and saved countless lives
KnifeNPaper@reddit
Im not a big fan of him, but what i CANT stand, is how much of an echo chamber reddit is, when an inarguable 50+% of america voted for him. Makes no sense. Anyone on the right gets silenced, thats not right.
Ripple22@reddit
Yeah Reddit is so ridiculously biased. Democracy for me but not for thee
KnifeNPaper@reddit
Idc about the opinion sharing, but it systemically silences dissent
WhatIsHerJob-TABLES@reddit
Hahahaha says the person who clearly has no idea what’s happening out in the real world. But sure, lap it up in that propaganda bubble if you’d like to remain ignorant.
Ripple22@reddit
You're the ignorant one my friend
WhatIsHerJob-TABLES@reddit
Says the dude who just said Trump resolved another war and saved countless lives hahahaha
Alright, dude! Keep your head dug far into the sand then. Does the propaganda hit harder that deep in the sand or something? I’d assume so for someone to be so proudly ignorant.
Ripple22@reddit
You lap up what the media tells you and I'm the one with no critical thinking skills? Make that make sense lmao
WhatIsHerJob-TABLES@reddit
I never mentioned anything about this. Well, we can add lack of reading comprehension to the list too! But, if you’d like to know, “the media” is nearly entirely owned by conservatives. The most popular news station is Fox News. The media is the one bending the truth in order to please Trump and avoid his anger. Just like CNN editing out Miller mentioning plenary power.
I won’t claim I’m perfect or immune from propaganda, but i try to get my news from sources that try to be impartial such as NPR, AP, PBS, and a few things internationally from BBC. I often hear things first on Reddit then look elsewhere for the story.
Ripple22@reddit
Nice
LassenDiscard@reddit
Feel free to enlighten us. What war did Trump resolve, and how's that working out? Do you also think he ended a half-dozen other wars?
Ripple22@reddit
Congo, also at least he's making an effort. What did Biden do?
LassenDiscard@reddit
There's a bunch of different ongoing conflicts in both the DRC and the RoC. Which one do you think Trump solved?
Hardly. He's taking credit for ending wars that literally didn't happen or are still happening, while insulting our allies, then going golfing.
Irrelevant. And why are so many Indians in Canada so obsessed with defending Trump? Do you guys actually get paid to do so? Because it sure seems like it.
Ripple22@reddit
Who said I'm Indian?
LassenDiscard@reddit
There's a bunch of different ongoing conflicts in both the DRC and the RoC. Which one do you think Trump solved?
LassenDiscard@reddit
Hey, make sure to come back and follow up on which war and just how resolved it is now.
Don't run away!
funding__secured@reddit
The pedophile saved countless lives? You’re VERY slow.
phiegnux@reddit
Oh, so you're slow
Any-Rutabaga-3575@reddit
They agreed to the first stage of a peace deal and Israel has already attacked Gaza again so there's no peace nor lives saved
Correct_Doctor_1502@reddit
This is the tenth time he's claimed this, and they've already expelled everyone from their homeland and declared they will kill anyone who doesn't leave, so this is just an agreement of total subjugation, not a peace deal.
whatiseveneverything@reddit
Yeah, there's going to be a price to pay for that and we've just begun.
Few-Affect-6247@reddit
Everyone keeps saying that but it’s been almost a decade since the hostile takeover started and nothing has been done yet. They won, it’s over.
SelectiveScribbler06@reddit
If you've told any sort of story at all, you will know 'over' is an arbitrarily-drawn line and so are chapters (arbitrarily split segments). I say 'arbitrary' because you could split one chapter into two or shunt two together... the possibilities are virtually endless.
Same with real life - in fact even more so. With ongoing stories like this you could draw 'over' practically anywhere - retrospective also warps our sense of what's going on. It is also our history to make - the No Kings march should with any luck appear in the US history books.
I'm from the UK so I was conferring the 'our' to you, the reader, but hopefully that makes some sense.
Worshipme988@reddit
Whiny cry babies gtfo the way so the adults dont trip over ur giant whiny asses.
Fucking doomed shit is more exhausting
whatiseveneverything@reddit
I mean there's a price to pay for letting this happen.
-Calm_Skin-@reddit
We’re just so slow figuring it out. US education for ya.
cassanderer@reddit
It is not a lack of umderstanding but a lack of will, our opposition polits are controlled opposition, the oligarchy's pets.
Here and across the west, the only real reform option is the far right offering but scapegoats.
Without new opposition we are doomed.
BlueJay_525@reddit
They are attacking democracy at every angle.
PilgrimOz@reddit
It’s been falling. Frump already announced ‘You’ll never need to vote ever again’. And talked openly about a 3rd term. And can’t afford not to be able to control the FBI cause then….everyone gets to confirm he and friends are all PDFs. 2028 is gonna be nuts.
Due_Satisfaction2167@reddit
States could start rejecting machines by this company.
Most-Captain5566@reddit
Seems like a win 🥇
FIRElady_Momma@reddit
Wow. So all of that lawsuit stuff only to turn around and sell their company to THE ENEMY???
Eric_Durden@reddit
If you wanna know who your enemy is, don't look left or right, look up.
The people at the top of these corporations don't see each other as enemies, more as rivals in the game of wealth accumulation.
Dr_Momo88@reddit
Nah. The right are fundamentally destroying the country. It’s both
Eric_Durden@reddit
And they say the same about the left. The fact is, the entire country has been poisoned and manipulated by a system design to keep people at each other's throats.
MidNerd@reddit
This is not a both sides issue.
One side is buying up private ways to sway elections and enforce propaganda. - Dominion, Twitter, Fox, CNN, Sinclair
One side approved flashbanging children in their homes without cause or warrants. - ICE in Chicago last week
One side is disappearing people. - ICE all year
One side is building concentration camps and disappeared hundreds of people without records. - Alligator Alcatraz
One side is passing unconstitutional EOs to bypass the rule of law. - Most EOs from Trump this year
One side is declaring their opponents terrorists with no basis. - NSPM-7
One side is indicting their political opponents with clear motivations for political persecution rather than upholding the law. - Hunter Biden, James Comey, Letitia James
One side is passing shadow dockets and legislating from the judicial branch. - Roe v Wade
One side is intent on hurting the other, while the other side historically benefits them.
If you are saying both sides even now, you're not paying attention. Why bother being on PrepperIntel if you won't stay informed?
Eric_Durden@reddit
I didn't say both sides are the same, or even, I'm saying everyone has been brain-rotted and blinded to the real enemy.
MidNerd@reddit
You said look up. Someone responded saying the right are fundamentally destroying the country, it's both. You then came back with "tHeY sAy ThE sAmE aBoUt ThE lEfT". That is both siding. You absolutely said both sides.
Sure, they wealthy are using culture ware to turn us against each other, but pretending the right is not fundamentally more involved in colluding with billionaires to erode our rights is laughable. I am absolutely and justifiably looking right for the current failed state of America as much as I'm looking up. They do not deserve a pass.
Eric_Durden@reddit
I said, "they say the same about the left." I didn't day the last actually does any of it. Your low-key proving my point by being so obtuse.
MidNerd@reddit
Then why not agree with the comment in any way, shape, or form? Why immediately go to a comparison to the left?
How you choose to reply and what you don't say is just as important as what you do choose to say. You still haven't even commented on what you do think, only that you didn't totally didn't say both sides.
I'm blaming the Heritage Foundation, Rupert Murdoch, Trump, Zuckerberg, etc for all of this. There is no reason to say just look up (billionaires) when the right are all complicit and the billionaires would not have the reach they have without their underlings doing the work for them.
You should absolutely be looking both right and up if you want any sense of normalcy, peace, or stability in the US anytime soon. Implying otherwise or saying those of us who hold that stance are "brain-rotted and blinded" paints you as complicit too. It's why we have Trump 2.0 in the first place despite J6.
Accountability doesn't mean I'm at your throat.
LetsDOOT_THIS@reddit
they didn't make a comparision. They made a statement about the culture war and you went on a rant.
Gauntlix5@reddit
How about the ones on your “left or right” deliberately enabling “up”?
Eric_Durden@reddit
Most are literally victims of circumstance and don't deserve the enmity. It's the ones being deliberately obtuse that need to be weeded out.
Excellent_Set_232@reddit
The lawsuit was likely to justify their valuation in the deal, so it seems.
Correct_Doctor_1502@reddit
They probably didn't have a choice. Free market doesn't exist anymore
TraditionalLaw7763@reddit
For fucks sake they got handed almost a billion dollars cash from Fox News to settle the lawsuit.
lyonslicer@reddit
It was always about the money. Once someone comes along with a good enough offer, they'll take the cash and walk away.
fragrant-final-973@reddit
If you can't beat 'em, buy 'em!
Pepsi_Popcorn_n_Dots@reddit
Just like TikTok has been purchased by a Trump backing oligarch.
fragrant-final-973@reddit
Someone argued recently how it's still legit. Then they shared some easily debunked propaganda that makes the movement look bad but sounds funny. Working as intended.
PreposterousPringle@reddit
Sounds like a great time to invest in their competitors.
Eric_Durden@reddit
Probably the opposite. This administration will likely play some games over the next year to make Dominion the only company authorized to collect and count the votes.
cassanderer@reddit
Elections are run by states, so blue states can choose new vendors, they probably will not because they are weak sold out aristocrats but prez cannot tell any state how to run elections.
echoshatter@reddit
Fun fact, while elections are run by states, the federal government can still make laws that impact elections. The states do not have 100% control.
cassanderer@reddit
Feds have a very limited role although with our Supreme Court you might be right. But it is clearly spelled out in the constitution, but so is birthright citizenship and the Supreme Court is trying to come up with a plausible reason to take that away so go figure.
echoshatter@reddit
"Feds have a very limited role"
Feds have whatever role they want.
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
And that Senator exemption was altered with amendment 17 to make it a direct popular vote instead of letting the state government pick, and with them being elected they too are impacted by whatever laws the feds make regarding elections.
cassanderer@reddit
There's been quite a bit written about this the last several years, I think you are misreading it, not the feds say like when the elections are, the Constitution explicitly gives the states the authority to run their own elections. We learned about it time and again in 2020 when they were trying to steal it but I do not know the ins and outs I suppose.
Eric_Durden@reddit
Like I said, some games will be played.
ASimpForChaeryeong@reddit
Democracy was fun while it lasted
Tradtrade@reddit
The rest of us still have it in our countries, it seems like an American issue like school shootings. Can it happen other places? Sure. But does it? Mostly no.
Due_Satisfaction2167@reddit
Every country is one bad election away from this.
whatiseveneverything@reddit
Give it time. This will not stay contained. Germany may be next.
Important-Shame3690@reddit
Yeah we suck right now.
SubstantialPressure3@reddit
https://substack.com/@reallyamerican/note/c-164427161?r=4momb
Pam Bondi is suggesting that they are going to execute people that they decide are Antifa.
So that might not be a joke.
daviddjg0033@reddit
Kristi Noem said she identified the head of antifa.
Rolls eyes - ask Grok what crimes antifa is responsible for
A feed of 1/6 apologists
holy_macanoli@reddit
Also, I really enjoyed not being exploded and un-alived for any of the ideas bouncing around in my adhd-addled brain.
proxymoto@reddit
Alright so what is the safest way to vote, going forward?
jms21y@reddit
in person, as long as you can feed the ballot into the tabulator yourself. once it goes into a tabulator, the voted ballot is read onto the media that is in the machine, and it can't be deleted.
full time election staff here.....happy to answer questions
gratefulkittiesilove@reddit
Problem is that bar code is what’s read not the words you verify.
Due_Satisfaction2167@reddit
Sure, but after the fact audits can detect such discrepancies.
thehourglasses@reddit
Thoughts on this?
jms21y@reddit
the election was manipulated all right....on social media, long before the first ballot was cast. election rigging occurs out in the open, with the full consent and participation of voters, via social media feeds.
thehourglasses@reddit
So the statistical drift isn’t concerning?
jms21y@reddit
it's concerning to me personally that polls overestimate the potential performance of a candidate, and we definitely saw that in 2024. i chalk it up to actually underestimating the competition (in the case of 2024, the popularity of impending fascism). this isn't my area of expertise, though. i code elections and process results files, handle recounts when necessary, and do the post-election audits.
there is simply no way to manipulate an election on a technical level at the scale needed to do so. physical security alone is a major challenge, to say nothing of the necessity of having literally tens of thousands of people in on the fix, from county clerks and supervisors, to lowly temp staff working at the individual precinct, and everyone in between. it's way easier and more effective to just bombard voters with memes, video clips, and misinformation in order to influence the way they vote.
BlackJackfruitCup@reddit
Unfortunately the issue looks like it is at the company level. Especially with the companies that have ties to the Heritage Foundation.
Cyber security professional, Stephen Spoonamore, who was the expert witness for the 2004 Ohio case, has an informative interview where he discusses voting machine security.
Here he is discussing Diebold. However, Diebold's voting machine division was started by the same man, Bob Urosevich, who started ES&S, where his brother Todd Urosevich currently works.
Stephen Spoonamore, Computer Security Guru, Election Theft with Voter Machines
If you want an example of how the tabulation machines can be hacked, here it is in 2006 and in 2025. Same method, different vendors.
Hacking Democracy - The Hack:
How the 2024 Election Could Have Been HACKED for Trump | DEFCON 2025 | Lights On with Jessica Denson
This post can give you a brief overview of the historical issues, if you are not already familiar.
History of conflicts of interest and corruption in American voting machines.
And of course, poll books, like the company the new Dominion CEO makes, come with their own set of problems:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/31/election-security-hole-406471
https://www.projectminnesota.com/remove-ipads/
salynch@reddit
Strphen Spoonamore is not a cybersecurity professional.
BlackJackfruitCup@reddit
Is doing authentication and chain of custody of transactions for credit card companies and banks not cyber security related?
Mental-Paramedic-422@reddit
The drift is worth watching, but it’s usually a polling problem, not a tabulation problem. Most “drift” comes from nonresponse bias, turnout models being off, mode effects (phone vs online), and late deciders breaking one way. Practical checks: ignore single polls and watch averages; compare registered-voter vs likely-voter screens; note each pollster’s house effect; don’t overread tiny subsamples. On results, look for weird precinct patterns like sudden spikes in undervotes or blanks, and compare swings to registration and early-vote data. Post-election, skim the risk-limiting audit or hand-count checks in your state; if the machines were off, audits and canvass reconciliations usually light it up fast. I’ve used Tableau and BigQuery to reconcile county canvass files with poll projections, and DreamFactory to spin up quick read-only APIs on results data, which makes these checks faster without punching holes in security. So yeah, treat drift as a flag for polling methods and turnout shifts, not proof the count was hacked.
SeaWeedSkis@reddit
Yup. I suspect that's why a certain person purchased a certain 🐦social media platform. All that data and tools to manipulate the masses.
thehourglasses@reddit
Did you watch the entire video? The infosec guy goes into detail on exactly how these machines can be manipulated.
krbzkrbzkrbz@reddit
Do you have any insight on BallotProof, Elon, and the seemingly stolen election last Nov? Even if our votes are counted correctly, it won't matter if they stuff the ballot boxes in swing states.
jms21y@reddit
i only have an opinion. it is that elections are absolutely rigged. but it doesn't happen inside a machine, or via hacking, or "flipping ballots" or whatever. it happens out in the open, through social media algorithms manufacturing opinion, and it happens with the consent and full participation of voters.
sowing misinformation and using memes to influence elections takes a lot less effort than reprogramming voting equipment in over 3,000 counties, and it's cheaper, more effective, and faster because you're getting the voters to do the heavy lifting.
salynch@reddit
People aren’t going to listen to reason on this sub. It’s a honeypot for people with unmedicated anxiety disorders.
jms21y@reddit
i'm starting to realize that lol. it's like man, i don't like where we are, either, but it literally happened because there was a confluence of circumstances that made this administration's proposed policies and plans resonate with a greater number of people than those of the other candidate. for better or for worse, it's that simple. i can understand how tempting it is to think of the most complex and insidious explanations for a bad outcome; none of us wants to believe that maybe we're active participants in the grand conspiracy to facilitate uniparty rule.
BeautifulHindsight@reddit
They can just push out programming updates via wifi.
jms21y@reddit
I can't speak for other jurisdictions, but our machines don't have a wifi card. They modem via a cellular tunnel that is zero trust. It's outbound-only, does not receive, and it transmits a very long hash so the server can verify the integrity of the data it receives.
BeautifulHindsight@reddit
You are assuming they won't/haven't programmed the machines to change the results.
jms21y@reddit
that's not a thing. we do pre-election logic and accuracy testing using the exact same election definition as the live election, and using ballots that are identical to live ballots, the only difference is the word "test" printed in the margin. the tabulators don't know it's a test.
BeautifulHindsight@reddit
Again you are assuming they won't change the programing. But how do you know the test hasn't been programmed to pass every time. Or they could change the program to work differently after they pass the test.
Assuming it's not possible is dangerous and fucking stupid.
They stole the last election what makes you think they won't rig them all going forward?
jms21y@reddit
i'm not assuming anything or disregarding what you're saying, but what you're saying is extremely vague.
changing what programming? using what programming language? who is they? how are they gaining access post-test? how are they getting past everyone else involved in the elections process in order to carry out said reprogramming?
you see? it's not as simple as you think.
cheongyanggochu-vibe@reddit
Will that matter if they reprogram the machines?
jms21y@reddit
a tabulator doesn't work without what's called an election definition. this is the program for a specific election and it is placed onto the tabulator by physical media and it is created by the elections office in the jurisdiction in which the tabulator will be used. the manufacturer cannot produce this definition, nor can the government, nor any candidate.
popthestacks@reddit
Can’t be deleted unless you write the software the machines run
BlackJackfruitCup@reddit
which is where the problems come in.
History of conflicts of interest and corruption in American voting machines.
https://www.projectminnesota.com/remove-ipads/
Desperate_Damage4632@reddit
Uh, they program the machines. They can make whatever they want happen.
jms21y@reddit
elections staff program the tabulators. a tabulator ia nothing without the coding for a specific election. this is generated by election office staff; not the government, not the company that makes the machines, and not the candidates.
Desperate_Damage4632@reddit
Well, they were able to make it so Harris got 0 votes in Democrat counties, so obviously there's a security gap somewhere.
ladder_of_cheese@reddit
Thank you for your work.
Smooth_Influence_488@reddit
Very cool and thanks for commenting. Is there any variation for local-only elections or is it all the same company/machines? (Wondering about NYC for our off-year state elections).
jms21y@reddit
the procedures are the same for every election. most jurisdictions assign machines to a precinct, but what really matters is the media used, as that is what contains the voted ballots. how that media is read in to the server that processes and generates a results file varies from state to state. i work in florida; we modem results in via a zero-trust tunnel while the precinct clerk brings the physical media back to the elections office.
RlOTGRRRL@reddit
NYC uses the same machines and process for all elections.
kormer@reddit
In person paper ballots was the gold standard set forth by the Carter commission over twenty years ago.
BlackJackfruitCup@reddit
Hand counted is the key part of that. The new Dominion CEO keeps saying he has paper ballots, but he leaves out that they are still counted on HIS machines. So it's a bit disingenuous, especially since there has been issues with the tabulators.
BUSTING the 'Man-in-the-Middle' of Ohio Vote Rigging
(The transcript has been edited for clarity)
https://youtu.be/BRW3Bh8HQic?t=686
11:26
- Stephen Spoonamore (Cyber Security Professional who was brought in to be the expert witness in the 2004 Ohio Election case)
AnomalyNexus@reddit
Do you really need to mess with voting machines if you're just rolling the military into cities that align with other parties anyway?
echoshatter@reddit
Yes. You have to maintain appearances for the moderates and for the people in your wing who still want to play pretend they have a mandate.
22FXE@reddit
It would be a bitch but I think we need to count paper ballots, mailed or in person
bristlybits@reddit
I'm in WA and it's all paper ballot by mail.
ThrowawayRage1218@reddit
With a pen, not a hole punch. We don't want another goddamned hanging chad incident.
parakeetpoop@reddit
This is the answer.
kittymctacoyo@reddit
This was one of the goals all along. Besides the obvious benefits. They already had ES&S in their pocket for decades, wherein ES&S has aided them in snagging elections over the years that went under the radar not only has they made sure the investigation was squashed but also bcs these things were handled quietly to prevent a civil war or prevent the Rs from weaponizing it within the public exactly as they have over the last decade.
This outcome was always the goal and is exactly why Trump from day one of admin one was wailing about stolen election. So they could use it as a cudgel to gain access to the machines under false pretenses (like in MS I believe last election where hand counting ballots found that the counting machines were removing anywhere from 6-9% of D votes and mysteriously “mistakenly” adding that same percentage to R vote tallies)
Virtual_Ordinary2396@reddit
The safest is what they’re against, which is mail-in ballots
SubstantialPressure3@reddit
Well, it's not safe anymore. Mail in ballots were stolen, some were found in strange places, ballot boxes were set on fire.
SanchoPandas@reddit
Hi there friend! I understand your concern but to say that mail in voting isn't still safe is untrue. In fact, it should be expanded.
You're pointing to a few individual actors attempting to disrupt specific locations. This is a story about the digital vote tabulation infrastructure being at risk. These are threats of two very different scales. One is a systemic trust issue, the other is not.
For example, there were two boxes set alight in my area and very few ballots were damaged. Most folks whose ballots were damaged had their ballots re-sent to them.
I trust my state's vote-by-mail system still and i trust our local election officials; whose jobs are made harder by stuff like this.
Bonus: I also get to verify online that my vote has been counted after I send it in.
BlackJackfruitCup@reddit
The only down side is you don't get the free democracy sausage like they do in Australia. You win some, you lose some.
SanchoPandas@reddit
Lmao if a democracy sausage was part of the deal here, voter participation would be like 95%
ThrowawayRage1218@reddit
I get your point of view, and I too am cautious of bad actors online trying to lower trust in institutions. I agree that mail-in voting should be expanded! But this admin has been openly hostile to voting by mail, made it harder to properly cast your ballot and have your vote counted, and when you can't see your ballot get scanned yourself it can make it hard to trust election officials not to just shred them. I would argue that while the examples OP gave were not a systemic trust issue, that doesn't mean that vote-by-mail isn't free of systemic trust issues.
DrieverFlows@reddit
Okay, but 'dominion voting'??? Really?
CalmError@reddit
Vote. Yeah I remember that...
Thoth-long-bill@reddit
And the good news just keeps rolling in.
Eric_Durden@reddit
The fix has been in for years. So I'm less concerned about fraud at this point and more about them keeping tabs on who we vote for.
phoneacct696969@reddit
Yeah great job with that.
Eric_Durden@reddit
What job is that?
fragrant-final-973@reddit
2028 election results are in!
bsproutsy@reddit
F
WinterMuteZZ9Alpha@reddit
The fix is in.